From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sat Jan 1 11:11:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA29595 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:11:43 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:42:41 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] APRS Queue Tracking Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here is another potential APRS public service capability: BACKGROUND: Annapolis MD has "1st Night" which consists of maybe 30 to 40 venues of things going on spread out over a 1/2 mile radius from the town center. You purchase a "Button" which gives you free admission to any of these events. Performances are typically 30 min each every hour from 6PM to midnight. They range from Music performances, Magic shows, Comedy, and kid activities suchs as making party hats and sand sculpture. PROBLEM: While you could theoretically attend 6 of these 30 minute shows with 30 min walking and queing time between them, the success rate is more like about 2. With distances approaching a mile from one extreme to another, and not knowing where the crowds are, you aim for your favorite only to get there and find an hour line. So then you treck back to choice #2, having lost 30 minutes, only to find another line. Later you talk to some people and find that there were NO lines at X, Y and Z. APRS SOLUTION: SInce the local HAM radio club normally mans a few HAM radio kiosks to show off HAM radio to the public, we could just as easily set up our PC's in several strategic locations. Then using APRS BULLETINS, and the APRS BULLETIN screens, we could easily convey to everyone the length of queues everywhere. Here is an example of how the APRSdos BULLETIN page would look: W3ADO >BLN0 :LINE 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 WB4APR>BLN1 :************************* WB4APR>BLN2 :**************** WB4APR>BLN3 :******************** WB5APR>BLN4 :********** WB5APR>BLN5 :No lines. View performance from street WB5APR>BLN6 :************************** WB6APR>BLN7 :*********************************************** WB6APR>BLN8 :********************** WB6APR>BLN9 :**************** WB6APR>BLN10:***************************** WB6APR>BLN11:** Canceled ** ANd so forth. The BULLETIN screen would be almost self explanitory to the public. Here I have chosen BLN#'s to match the VENU Numbers. The public has a pamphlet showing the location of all venus by number. THe APRS BULLETIN display remains consistent as each new update comes in because APRS sorts all BULLETINS on receipt. Thus when a new BLN7 comes in from station X, then it overwrites BLN7 on the screen. Thus, no matter when an update comes in, and no matter the order, the users are presented with a consistent, up-to-date display of this changing information. You can hook up several monitors to each PC, or hook several PC's to each radio/TNC via the zip-lan to make this information more visible to the masses. This will show them that HAM radio is more than just talking on a radio. It has APPLICATIONS in today's PC world... AND! And, on the maps you can place CIRCLE objects at each VENU showing the SIZE of the crowd. A LARGE circle means big crowds and a long wait, and a small circle might show a small line... THus, the MAPS come in handy too. There is only one artificiality in your planning, and that is you must assign stations to the venu's alphabetically. This is because APRS also sorts by callsign. This is so it can adjust for different size bulletins and also so it can insert a blank line between different calls as shown above. In Annapolis, many venues are grouped as shown above, so that one station can report on several venus. For example, St Johns Collage has 3 or 4, the State House has 3 or 4, the Academy has 3 or 4, the big Catholic Church has 3 or 4, etc... APRS was designed as a powerful tool for exchanging real-time information throughout an area. Not just tracking. THink outside that box... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sat Jan 1 11:26:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA00132 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:26:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 12:28:22 -0500 From: Stan Horzepa Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] ADMIN: APRS Hot Technology SIG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386E3933.F63FB9DF@ct2.nai.net> Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Last year, TAPR created the HTAPRS SIG for discussion of the Kenwood TH-D7 transceiver. This year, there is a demand for a new SIG for the new Kenwood TM-D700A transceiver. In response to that demand, a new list has been created at OneList. Here, at TAPR, we deicided that rather than start another SIG, we are renaming the TAPR HTAPRS SIG as the "APRS Hot Technology SIG." HTAPRS will now be a place to discuss the latest and greatest in APRS goodies without having to create a new SIG each time a new product is introduced. So, feel free to use the HTAPRS SIG to discuss the TM-D700A, as well as any new APRS products that comes down the pike in the future. 73, Stan, WA1LOU, APRS/HTAPRS SIG Administrator --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sat Jan 1 11:28:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA00252 for ; Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:28:13 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:04:51 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: jeffb@espi.com, kb2ici@amsat.org, kf4fdj@amsat.org, TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org Subject: [aprsnews] APRSdos bug, all versions? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Geoffry Dick WA4IKQ has discovered a problem with APRSdos in all of its SYSTEM\INITxxx.TNC files. Apparently, PACLEN is set to 128. This should be set to PACLEN 0. THis causes the LINE NUMBER of a MESSAGE to be truncated if it is too long and has a long path. THus, the line is never ACKED by the recepient! Wow, I cannot believe we have not noticed this before... I would have sworn that PACLEN was 0 in all my files, but it ain't... ARGH... In your Local area, *one* APRSdos person should send out the following message, to make sure everyone gets the word: TO: DOS :Pse change PACLEN from 128 to 0 in all SYSTEM\INIT files. This will get to all APRSdos users on the air... Thanks.. Bob, WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sun Jan 2 10:21:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA02220 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:21:23 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:00:06 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: aprssig , aprsnews@tapr.org Subject: [aprsnews] Re: [aprssig] APRSdos bug, all versions? In-Reply-To: <002401bf54d7$606fba60$212af2d1@espi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Jeff Brenton wrote: > By the way.... It REALLY isn't 100% imperative that _DOS_ users have > PACLEN 0 set; it only affects TRANSMISSIONS, and I don't see many > instances when DOS APRS would send more than 128 bytes of data... ARGH! You are right. APRSdos will never send a packet that long! WHeras SCREEN LENGTH can really screw up long "received" packets, PACLEN is NOT affected by the length of the path. Thus, my posting was in error. There is nothing wrong with PACLEN 128. Sheesh... :-( Bob --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sun Jan 2 10:40:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA02826 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 10:40:08 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:37:49 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: aprssig , aprsnews@tapr.org Subject: [aprsnews] Re: [aprssig] APRSdos bug, all versions? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Bob Bruninga wrote: > ARGH! You are right. APRSdos will never send a packet that long! > PACLEN is NOT affected by the length of the path. Thus, my posting was > in error. There is nothing wrong with PACLEN 128 in APRSdos. Sheesh... Which gets us back to Geoffery's original observation that some ACKS for some WinAPRS messages appear to not be transmitted back to the WinAPRS originator from APRSdos.. So if anyone can confirm or help nail down this possible problem, let us know... what you see. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Mon Jan 3 09:20:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA06553 for ; Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:20:10 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 08:29:50 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprssig , aprsnews@tapr.org Subject: [aprsnews] Re: [aprssig] Re: APRSdos bug, all versions? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Richard Amirault wrote: > > > By the way.... It REALLY isn't 100% imperative that _DOS_ users have > > > PACLEN 0 set; it only affects TRANSMISSIONS, and I don't see many > > > instances when DOS APRS would send more than 128 bytes of data... > > > > ARGH! You are right. APRSdos will never send a packet that long! > > Are you sure?? It may not *start* out that long, but with somone with an > over ambitious WIDEn,n it may very well end up that long. Up here in > Boston I've seen a couple of stations come by the bottom of my APRSDox WX > screen that were too long to accept. No, PACLEN only affects the data in the packet, and not the full length including the path. Thats where I erred. Thus PACLEN 128 is not a problem. But SCREENLENGTH is definately a problem, since it wraps around on a lengtht that includes the header.. Thus SCRNL must be 0... bob --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Wed Jan 5 12:27:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA12283 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:27:40 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:59:26 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] APRSdos 845 Release Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Two files posted on TAPR.ORG in aprssig/dosstuff/APRSdos area: APRS845.zip Full release. Standard distribution AMAX845.zip Optional AMAX845.exe for >210 stations Improvements and fixes: 1) Decodes TMD700 Altitude and displays on 3D maps 2) Fixes /A=123456xxx Bug 3) Improved ACK processing for rapid QSO exchanges 4) INITxxx.TNC files changed to PACLEN=0 to solve IGATE truncation 5) Fixed TELEMETRY PAGE Scrolling 6) Added GPWPL to NMEA processing so you can monitor THD7 or TMD700 posits while radio remains in APRS mode. Enjoy! de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Fri Jan 7 13:40:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA20059 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 13:40:24 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:12:01 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] [aprssig] 10m QSY AGAIN. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk TODAY I moved the Mid-Atlantic APRS feed to 28.189 LSB 1200 baud. Sorry for the bouncing around. I am averaging about a packet every 5 to 10 seconds... This frequency should be good! My Change to 28.187 yesterday was no good, since there was a BBS there. 28.189 MHz LSB is now it... Remember, you can use ANY VHF TNC on 10m with your $139 Radio SHack 10m rig... de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Fri Jan 7 18:08:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA02951 for ; Fri, 7 Jan 2000 18:08:01 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: mcmusick@mail.anet-stl.com Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:56:16 -0600 To: "APRS Announcements" From: Mike Musick Subject: [aprsnews] Darker USA Map for pocketAPRS List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In response to several requests for a darker version of the North America map released with pocketAPRS v1.03: ftp://ftp.tapr.org//aprssig/palmstuff/palmmaps/USADARK.ZIP This should do the trick - lines are "full" black and not the Palm dark gray, which seems to have poor contrast on certain Palm models. ...mike/N0QBF ------------------------------------------------------------------------ pocketAPRS - APRS for the Palm Connected Organizer Website: http://www.pocketaprs.com Application: ftp://ftp.tapr.org//aprssig/palmstuff/palmaprs/pcktaprs.zip Map Files: ftp://ftp.tapr.org//aprssig/palmstuff/palmmaps/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sat Jan 8 09:54:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA15149 for ; Sat, 8 Jan 2000 09:54:22 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: plkilroy@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 09:15:57 -0500 To: "APRS Announcements" From: Pat Kilroy (by way of Pat Kilroy ) Subject: [aprsnews] AMSAT-DC Meeting & Space Seminar Announced Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000108091557.00907100@pop700.gsfc.nasa.gov> Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id JAA15149 AMSAT-DC MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT All space enthusiasts and amateur satellite operators are invited to the next Maryland-DC area AMSAT Meeting and Space Seminar. This includes students, teachers, parents and all Amateur Radio operators too! The gathering will take place on Sunday, April 2, 2000, starting at 1:00 p.m. EDT in the auditorium of the beautiful Visitor Center at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. All topics at the seminar relate to the amateur space program, Amateur Radio, high-altitude balloon experiments, telemetry, homebrew electronic projects, and similar fun with technology. The format is a combination of presentations, informal "show 'n' tell" demonstrations and a social period. The first presentations and the keynote address are designed to be especially valuable to beginners. All aspects of this seminar are brought to you by unpaid, uncompensated volunteers. The high quality of past seminars have received excellent reviews. The entire afternoon will be great fun! Informal talk-in is on WA3NAN/R 146.835 MHz Greenbelt, Md. Changes and the latest meeting developments are posted on the "Local Maryland-DC Area AMSAT Web Page" at . The GSFC Visitor Center will be open to the public on this day between 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. Visitors can enjoy a walking tour of the Hubble Space Telescope Operations Control Center and the NASA Communications (NASCOM) Center at 11:00 a.m. (4th grade and above, approximately 1 hour) or the model rocket launches at 1:00 p.m. (all ages). The Educator's Resource Center (ERC) on the VC upper floor is also available to those gathering materials for students and the classroom. Free paved parking. For additional Visitor Center information please call 301-286-8981 or go to the web site . For a map and directions go to . There will be a special tour of the Goddard Amateur Radio Club station WA3NAN, "Voice of the Space Shuttle Retransmissions" at 12 noon originating at the club site. Visit . Donations will be accepted to offset the associated seminar costs. Each AMSAT member attending donates in one or more ways by helping to: 1. Plan presenters, presentations and activities. Advertise. 2. Monitor the 146.835 repeater for talk-in during any period starting before 11 a.m. through an hour after the start of the seminar. 2. Set up the auditorium perimeter shortly after 12 noon. 3. Bring a "show 'n' tell" item to demonstrate at a table. 4. Act as a greeter at the door of the auditorium for sign-in, name badge writing, welcoming, etc. 5. Bring a beverage or some munchies to share. 6. Act as a speaker timekeeper for the host. 7. Take notes and then mail a summary to amsat-dc@amsat.org within about a week or so. 8. Act as our official photographer or videographer. 9. Recognize a need and jump in to take action. 10. Move chairs and tables back and clean up. 11. Arrange a good place for a group to dine immediately afterwards for those who wish to participate. 12. Develop an AMSAT-DC scrapbook; collect and share materials on meeting topics, people and activities for historical record and one's appreciation. This meeting is open to all. Please spread the word. For APRS users, the meeting place coordinates are roughly 38° 59' 34.8" N, 76° 50' 48.8" W. The gathering is scheduled to end at 4 p.m. In the past, the Goddard security officers have allowed us to drag out the ending a little while longer. Please be flexible. Pat Kilroy wd8laq@amsat.org /EX ===================================================================== Patrick L. Kilroy HM Integration & Test Lead Engineer Phone: 301-286-1984 NASA Goddard Space Flight Center Fax: 301-286-1673 Building 5, Mail Code 568 E-mail: pat.kilroy@gsfc.nasa.gov Greenbelt, Maryland 20771 Web: http://sspp.gsfc.nasa.gov ===================================================================== Visit SimSat website at http://garc.gsfc.nasa.gov/~simsat --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Wed Jan 19 12:20:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA23975 for ; Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:20:45 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 13:39:47 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] APRSdos version 846 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Some exciting new features in the latest released APRSdos(846): 1) Can transmit selected stations for display on stand-alone Tracker's GPS displays. An all new capabilty for APRS! See details below. 2) Now identifies HF stations on the D-Page and supports JUST-HF sorting on all pages (HEARD, DIGIPATH, and POSITIONS) 3) Improved RESOURCES PROMPTS for sending "resource" data to the DX LIST in Kenwood radios. (Ideas on how to use these lists?) 4) XMIT-MSG command now resets schedule timer, so you can un-stick a stuck message, instead of just a one-time re-try. 5) Added capability to parse WX from a dual port KPC-3 or Pico with a PEET Bros WX station on the GPS port. THis is UNtested since I do not have such an arrangement. Feedback welcomed. 6) Improved ACK processsing for more rapid turnaround in dialogs. WAYPOINT DETAILS: Just like the Kenwood radios, now any stand-alone Tracker can display special received stations and objects on its attached GPS if the station/object is transmitted on the air in the NMEA WPL format. APRSdos allows you to mark any VIP or special event station on the P-LIST to be transmitted over the air in this format. Note that only one station at an event needs to do this as a service to all Trackers on frequency. Also, since this doubles the nmber of posits for these selected stations, this feature should only be used sparingly and as needed or it will add too much duplicative QRM. *** CAUTION *** A related function permitting APRSdos to "accept" waypoints from the GPS port of a Kenwood radio was added to APRS845. THis means, those stations will also receive these Waypoint stations off-the-air too and will create duplicate posits. For this reason the capture of WAYPOITNS off-air is now selectable in the CONTROLS-FILTERS menu or in the alt-S-MODES-WAYPOINTS command. *** WARNING *** And unfortunately, there is a bug in the 845 waypoint code, so it will actually cause an error. Thus, all users of 845 need to upgrade... Sorry...:-( de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Fri Jan 21 17:58:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA10283 for ; Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:57:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 17:17:27 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] APRStk for satellites Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk APRStk for Satellites, For fun, I just added satellite tracking to APRSdos. It will show you a window across the bottom of the screen showing you the next 3 hours of passes and it plots the satellites on the maps. New commands are: 1) OPS-SATS. Displays the window noted above showing passes and EL's 2) OPS-PREDICT. Runs forward in fast-time to show where they are going Other than that, they are treated as any other object on the maps. You can SELECT them and do OPS-RANGE to see range and bearing, etc... I posted APRStk.ZIP to ftp://tapr.org/aprssig/dosstuff/APRSdos and when unzipped it contains APRStk.EXE and LEO.ORB which both must go into your existing APRS directory (with previously installed APRSxxx). It is like APRSxxx.exe in that it can only handle 100 other stations, but I had to make room... For 2 years, I had been trying to talk Steve Dimse into distributing SATELLITE posits to RF everywhere via APRServe, but he objects. So I give up, and just added it to APRSdos... The amazing thing is when you run it, you find that there are satellites over your QTH most of the time. We got LOTS of satellites up there. de WB4APR, Bob P.S. I only included the digital satellites in the ORB file, so ther are actually 4 more active birds... RS's and FO's... This is just a beta, and I used Dec 31, 1999 keps just to avoid the Y2K problems. FOr now, you will have to hand edit LEO.ORB and use a date of 100 instead of 99 if you want to update them and keep them current... --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Thu Jan 27 18:32:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA06874 for ; Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:32:17 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 18:00:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [aprsnews] APRStk Tracking program Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk With 4 new HAM satellites launched last night, and "potential" for mobile satellite communications using the new Kenwood 1200/9600 baud DATA radio, I added satllite tracking to APRS so you can not only see all your buddies on the map, but the satellites as well..(they're everywhere). APRStk has these new commands for satellite displays: OPS-SATS Draws a time line showing the next 2.5 hrs of passes OPS-PREDICT Goes faster than real time to see satllite movement INPUT-KEPS Allows you to update your KEPS from a text file (Y2K-OK) INPUT-TIME Moves forward in TIME for another 2.5 hour view LIST-KEPS Lets you see what satellite KEPS are loaded LIST-FREQS Shows a table of operating frequencies for all birds F1-HELP Gives a help file alt-S-REDRAW On faster machines, will update the OPS-SATS time line with every map re-draw APRStk also uses the new APRS compressed format so that positions take only 13 bytes for complete LAT/LONG/CSE/SPD to the nearest foot anywhere on the globe. Thus a complete 1200 baud POSITION/STATUS report takes less than 0.3 seconds. APRStk can also uplink the moving satellites as objects on the air so others in your area can see the satelites on their APRS maps too. Download APRStk from ftp://tapr.org/aprssig/dosstuff/APRSdos/aprstk.zip This is a 200k EXE and satellite files only. It must be loaded into an existing APRS directory with the other 1meg of map support, etc... If you need a full install, then get the file aprs846.zip from the same site. In BOTH cases, install them with PKUNZIP -D into your APRS directory (or use WinZIP) to get the proper directory structure... Enjoy. de WB4APR, Bob To see the ASTARS concept http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/astars.html P.S. If you are new to APRS, you must do the following as a minimum for satellites to be in the right place: 1) Put yourself on the map with the INPUT-MY-POSIT command 2) Set the correct Time Zone during start up or using alt-S-OTHER-ZONE 3) Have correct PC time 4) Zoom the map to any scale using the PG-UP/DN keys --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Fri Jan 28 10:05:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA20203 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:05:54 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:57:01 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] APRS School Club ROundup? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk 14th Annual SCR - February 14-18, 2000 (tentative) Maximum operating times: 6 hours/day; 24hours total This week is a good time to set up an APRS station in a school and show the kids something. If you are going to do this, I recommend that you add "KIDS" to your APRS MESSAGE GROUPS so that you can simply send a message to KIDS and then everyone else in the world with the same MSG GROUP entry, will CAPTURE the message... Well... thats the way it is supposed to work. But there are some quirks in the system needing some workarounds: 1) WinAPRS does not yet have MSG GROUPS implemented 2) Such messages will go into APRServe, but wont come out, because they dont see a callsign. WORKAROUND: 1) Be sure that someone somewhere in your area transmits a packet once every half hour or so FROM the AX.25 MYCALL of "KIDS". This will tell the local IGATE that there are "KIDS" in its local RF area... This is what we did for CQ-FD a few years back... 2) In WinAPRS, still SEND your message to KIDS, but then just watch the MESSAGE list for any other stations or replies. In all cases, you wont get any ACKS, because its a group message, so you can only have ONE of these outstanding at a time... 3) Do it on APRServe directly, but then hey, where is the radio in amateur radio????? And it will just be another "chat room" to them... Well, at least you can track some interesting vehicles....:-) --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Fri Jan 28 13:18:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA27044 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:18:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:56:55 -0800 From: Richard Allen X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] Re: APRStk Tracking program References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: <3891E677.60C422F@svn.net> Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks a lot Bob. Is there a good site for a beginner to satellite and the Kenwood radio setup and use? Antennas, etc. I have used tracking programs; but, I have never communicated with the sats. I had not even thought about this added feature of the Kenwood. What a bonus! 73/Richard KE6TNA --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Fri Jan 28 13:31:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA27567 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:31:58 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Horzepa, Stan" To: "APRS Announcements" Subject: [aprsnews] ADMIN: Replying to APRSNEWS Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 13:31:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: <1B66FFC6BE1CD211A0620008C7A42AC20113879B@MRDNEXCH01> Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Please... --- Do not REPLY to APRSNEWS. Instead, send replies to the originator of the message, i.e., the email address in the FROM: field. --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sat Jan 29 21:29:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA11437 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:29:27 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:09:05 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [aprsnews] Satellites Everywhere Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Let me first appologize for my exuberance! But... :-) Now that I added satellite tracking into APRStk.exe I am amazed that there seem to be satellites overhead most of the day. For those APRS operators waiting for someone to drive through your map, the Satellites are THERE most of the time and they are moving... FAST! I think maybe many hams might think that the only satellite they can work without special equipment is AO27 FM voice. This is no longer true. For the last year, for thousands of amateurs who have the Kenwood THD7 HT or TMD700 Mobile DATA radios, there are at least 11 satellites that you can receive with your Handheld or mobile! All you have to do is to be on the right frequency at the right time and set the internal TNC to 9600 baud. (and tune downward 5 KHz for doppler every few minutes). I now carry a small 4 element beam with me almost everywhere I go. With it, I can work AO27, or SO35 or watch the downlink packets of any of the 9600 baud birds on the front panel of the mobile radio. No, I cant "work" any of them (yet) without a laptop, but just receiving them just about anywhere at any time with a handheld beam is to me the joy of amateur radio and inspires me to think about new applications. (I have motors on order for a car roof AZ rotator!) YES, during an overhead pass (above say 40 degrees) you can even decode packets on your mobile WHIP antenna! But these only occur for a brief minute or so about twice a day per bird... But still, that is over a dozen passes a day to play... Or hold the small beam out the window, and see packets on any of 44 passes a day. CAVEAT: I am including the 4 new satellites launched 2 days ago (not all of which may become fully operational)... and AO27/SO35 voice in the 11. SUMMARY: Just dont overlook how easy it is these days to receive the 9600 baud downlinks with no muss-and-no-fuss....(only $$$'s). And no matter where you are in the world, or how isolated, these satellites are there. And with the equipment in your car, even basement and apartment dwellers can play. I have a favorite hilltop about 1 minute from my house where I go to take low elevation passes... (I have nothing at home, though today, I copied AO27 and one of the pacsats using the handheld beam INSIDE the house!) With these Kenwood radios, any mobile with a small 18 inch beam can work the satellites. Its time to start taking advantage of this mobility.. I have posted a concept I call ASTARS to discuss the possibilities... http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/astars.html NOTE: The Kenwood radios are not perfect. Your mileage may vary. But being an all-in-one 9600 baud packet radio with display, is certainly a great tool for furthering the state of mobile amateur satellite operations. SATELLITE TRACKING: I wrote APRStk to give a visual timeline of when passes are due over the next 2.5 hours and since the satelites are moving on the same APRS map as all the other APRS mobiles, it makes it easy to be aware of the constantly changing picture. An APRStk screen shot is on the above WEB page. (The .exe needs to be run within an existing APRSdos install) By using APRStk on my old dos PC in the corner, I now always have a view to the local APRS activity AND any satellites in view! Unfortunately APRStk is kind of slow on an 8 MHz PC with no co-proc, but on anything faster, and with auto-REDRAW enabled, it will ALWAYS show you what is happening. Even if you are zoomed in too far on the map, to watch locals, if a satellite comes above 5 degrees, the MAP background will change color according to the elevation angle. If it turns RED, then the satelilte is over 40 deg and you should hear it on an omni (with no coax losses).. or with coax and a pre-amp. The neat part of the display is at the bottom, where it shows you graphically, the next 2.5 hours of passes coming up... AND FINALLY! APRStk can send and receive updated KEPS over the air with only one key press. The idea will be that Satellite one-line keps will be transmitted one packet per hour on local APRS networks and thus, you will never have keps more than one day old! de WB4APR, Bob --- Do not REPLY to APRSNEWS. Instead, send replies to the originator of the message, i.e., the email address in the FROM: field. --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Sat Jan 29 21:31:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA11510 for ; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 21:31:05 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:30:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [aprsnews] ASTARS and APRStk.exe In-Reply-To: <200001292037.OAA16796@us.networkcs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to those of you that sent me the JPG and GIF files. I incorporated them into my ASTARS web page, described adnauseum in the previous EMAIL: But if you didnt read it and want to cut to the screen shot, here'tis: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprstk.gif Its a DOS screen of APRStk.exe, showing the 2.5 hour graphical time line of SATELLITES across the bottom. It shows each pass and the max elevation. Nice for knowing when to expect your favorite birds, without having to run a separate program... If you have a THD7 or TMD700, you should consider a handheld beam to get maximum fun from your new radio! (The dual band ARROW is pricey, but is all-in-one). But since the uplinks work fine from the 2m whip, you need only the UHF beam on the downlinks (and a VHF/UHF diplexer to split the two). Enjoy, Bob, Wb4APR --- Do not REPLY to APRSNEWS. Instead, send replies to the originator of the message, i.e., the email address in the FROM: field. --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org From bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Mon Jan 31 15:32:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA02876 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:32:23 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:27:36 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "APRS Announcements" cc: aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@amsat.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [aprsnews] APRS Telemetry from STENSAT In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Reply-To: "APRS Announcements" X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-aprsnews-839@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good news, bad news, good news.... THE GOOD NEWS: > I am happy to report that the STENSAT telemetry was built from a > modified APRS MIM and therefore the telemetry will be APRS decodable! > So when the satellite is deployed on Wednesday, we should be able to > capture it with your APRS software and more importantly with just your > Kenwood integrated APRS Radios! > > de WB4APR,Bob > -------------------------------------------------- > From: Hank Heidt > Cc: Assoc Prof Carl E Wick > > StenSat's telemetry should be APRS compliant. > > N4AFL-1>TELEM: T#000,255,004,037,129,032,010 STENSAT PICOSAT > > where the Telemetry numbers are (in order): > Sequence number - goes to 255, then rolls to zero > Power supply monitor > Current monitor > Temp monitor > 2.5 volt reference > Current RSSI value > Three light sensors (low value means light is striking the sensor): > Light sensor values are (in order): > Flat face (3 by 4 inches) > Long side (1 by 4 inches) > Short side (1 by 3 inches) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE BAD NEWS:. THe AX.25 destination call of TELEM they are using is not one of the generic APRS filters. SO most APRS software should ignore it. THE GOOD NEWS: In the Kenwoods you can change the given UNPROTO or ALTNET call from APK001 to TELEM, to set your radio to operate with ONLY other stations using that ALTNET callsign and then your THD7 HT or TMD700 mobile radio should receive the STENSAT telemetry directly... THE BAD NEWS: is that if you forget to return your ALTNET setting back to APK001 (for the HT) or APK101? for the mobile radio, then you wont copy any more packets on 144.39... SO dont forget! Most other APRSversions have a switch where you can disable the front end ALTNET filters for special circumstances such as this... Got my fingers crossed for the deploy! de WB4APR, Bob --- Do not REPLY to APRSNEWS. Instead, send replies to the originator of the message, i.e., the email address in the FROM: field. --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: lyris.aprsnews@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-839E@lists.tapr.org