From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 02:05:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA18463 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:05:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:09:24 PDT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: aprs/ce? From: Carl Littlejohns Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I understand that there are seperate PalmPC and PocketPC versions. Are > you using the correct version? Just a thought.... My new Casio E-115 is Ive had my E115 for must be nearly two months :) We must exchange notes in due course.. For other list members.. Its a nice program, but I can only get it to lists the station calls, it will not storetheir locations (hence doesnt plot them). Im using aprs/ce build691 ..ha! I just launched it to help me write this email and it EXPIRED yesterday.... ah well, have to wait for the next beta! The display of DOSAPRS maps work well (I havent tried any other) and they suit the colour screen well (the autoroute street map program uses Dosaprs looking maps to do its stuff and is also a 'killer application' IMO. Im wondering if aprs/ce needs to be registered to work or perhaps it isnt picking up UIVIEW positional packets (which dominate in the UK) Carl GW0TQM --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 02:06:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA18471 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:06:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 08:09:26 PDT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] RE: aprs/ce? From: Carl Littlejohns Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk just noticed (comes of being further round the world I guess...?) Carl --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 12:30:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA12623 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:30:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7 G and winaprs 2.6 (fwd) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:30:00 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000101bffbde$1ee50420$02000003@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I asked Curt to post his reply so we can all learn from it. Since Curt is not a member of this list, I am posting his reply. Thanks to all that responded to my comments. Yes, I had several comments that convinced me that my conclusion was in error. That is good, since we are all still on the learning curve. I have had lots of correspondence with Curt since he got into APRS last year and I have great respect for his technical knowledge and desires. Curt is a great asset to our hobby. He is one of the heavy hitters and is also working on integrating APRS into his county's SAR activities. Curt, you might want to join this list. There is lots of good technical information exchanged on this list on not just the Kenwood APRS radios but also on APRS in general. Thanks again to all that responded, Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org My Home Page: http://www.hctc.com/~gerhardt/ > -----Original Message----- >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 10:48:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" > To: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" > Cc: Curt Mills , "Curt Mills, WE7U" > > Subject: RE: [htaprs] Re: thd7 G and winaprs 2.6 > > On Sun, 30 Jul 2000, Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC wrote: > > > My conclusion is that at times your lat/long gets corrupted by > collisions of > > the packets. Just because the band is clear where you transmit > from does > > not mean it won't suffer a collision problem on the mountain > top WIDE digi. > > However if you transmit from your HT or Mobile APRS Tracker next to your > > home station, it should show up on your home station screen (at > least the > > majority of the time). > > Hi Herb. I've only met you one time and don't know you well (but you're > a hunter so you can't be all that bad). I hope what I'm going to say > doesn't anger you. My approach in discussions isn't usually very gentle. > Blame it on my being an engineer or an asshole, your choice ;-) > > Here we go: > > I personally believe your conclusion cannot be correct. It IS absolutely > what one would think when looking at the data though. I've done a lot > of work trying to understand why MIC-E style packets get corrupted. > There are serveral possible scenarios: > > 1) Someone is running a TNC in garbage mode, ignoring CRC checksums. > This can cause packets with bad checksums to be repeated by that station > and get a good CRC checksum appended, thereby getting them accepted and > repeated by more repeaters/gateways as a good packet (no way to know > after that first station calls it "good"). > > 2) A TNC somewhere is running too high of a data rate to the computer, or > the computer has crappy serial ports or is underpowered, resulting in > overruns in receiving characters from the TNC. This can cause characters > to be dropped or duplicated, throwing the position off. > > 3) The conversion routines that convert the compressed MIC-E packets > into human-readable packets are incorrect. This is most definitely the > case for at least some software out there. > > 4) Crummy software that may combine packets from multiple serial ports > at once because it wasn't written correctly. I've seen lots of packets > on the internet field that are the result of combining of two original > packets. > > 5) Some of the characters in a MIC-E style packet are non-printable, > and some TNC's filter these characters out by default (all AEA TNC's > for instance with the "mfilter" command's defaults). This can cause > one or more characters in the longitude of a MIC-E packet to be dropped > by the TNC and never sent to the computer. The result is a position > that suddenly shifts left or right some amount. I've seen this one > a lot and been quite vocal about it on some of the lists. "mfilter 0" > will fix this on an AEA TNC. Also check the "afilter" command. > > These are the ones that I've verified with my own experiments: 1, 2, > 3, 5. #4 is a possiblity, but not as likely to occur as any of the > others. > > I've had a lot of problem with my packets getting corrupted. I started > with the Handyboard HC11/AEA PK-88 tracker box that you saw last fall > at North Bend, and when I converted it to use MIC-E format I started > seeing these problems regularly. When I run with a PC and a TNC I > don't see the problems anywhere near as much. > > I've been working on a Perl version of aprsd, which is available from > my ftp site. While doing work on it I've been looking at lots of > packets and came up with the above scenarios. There are probably > others I haven't thought of. > > The AX.25 protocol, if used properly with CRC-16 checksums, will catch > most errors in the packets. If the CRC-16 is ignored, then anything > might be received by the TNC. I don't remember the exact figures now, > but I think CRC-16 will miss something like 1 in 100,000 or 1,000,000 > single-bit errors, but it will catch the rest. Pretty good odds. > > Between the TNC and the computer there are no checksums being used, > so incorrect choice of baud rate coupled with slow computers or serial > ports can cause problems there, unless perhaps you're running the TNC > in KISS mode. I think in that mode there is a checksum across the > serial line. > > I'd love to hear any comments you might have. > > Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com > Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin > "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown > "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U > > --- > To Unsubscribe, send e-mail to nwaprssig-request@nwaprs.org with > unsubscribe nwaprssig in the body. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 13:27:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA27316 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:27:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:26:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Sailboat Tracking Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk KH6JJD has just departed Annapolis with a D7 on board a Naval Academy Sailboat. He will be on the 144.39 Terrestrial network when in range, and will report his positions via SUNSAT and UOSAT5 when off shore. ALthough a HAM for dozens of years, he only got a THD7 last night and a CRASH course in APRS, Satellites, and all the rest in one hour during lunch hour. SO it will be amazing if it works... But look for him all the same... Also, if you see any POSITS from him or messages via the satellites, please send them to me wb4apr@amsat.org. THanks de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 16:48:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA08163 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 16:48:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Mike Edwards" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Sailboat Tracking Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 17:48:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000b01bffb39$0069bae0$724cd0d1@mike> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk You didn't mention where he's headed.. ....and as of 5:47pm EDT findu.com says Position of KH6JJD (Theodore Rogers) Report received 2 hours 37 minutes 2 seconds ago (naval academy posit shown) Did he take the D7 instruction manual along? :-) Mike KE4YGT ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Bruninga > KH6JJD has just departed Annapolis with a D7 on board a Naval Academy > Sailboat. He will be on the 144.39 Terrestrial network when in range, and > will report his positions via SUNSAT and UOSAT5 when off shore. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 17:39:41 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA15243 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:39:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:59:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Sailboat Tracking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike Edwards wrote: > You didn't mention where he's headed.. Annapoolis, to Norfolk, to New York and around Long Island... > Did he take the D7 instruction manual along? :-) Actually, yes, he downloaded it! I dont see him either... :-( bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 17:49:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA17749 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 17:49:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Jeff Griffin" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Sailboat Tracking Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:49:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001601bffc0a$bab59c80$0100a8c0@server> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Had the pacgat up last so-35 (22:30z) pass, nothing heard from kh6jjd 73 Jeff kb2wqm > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike Edwards wrote: > > > You didn't mention where he's headed.. > > Annapoolis, to Norfolk, to New York and around Long Island... > > > Did he take the D7 instruction manual along? :-) > > Actually, yes, he downloaded it! > I dont see him either... :-( > > bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 19:08:16 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA01890 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:08:15 -0500 (CDT) Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2000 20:08:21 -0400 From: David Aitcheson - KB3EFS Organization: KB3EFS Linux Box Running Red Hat 6.2 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Sailboat Tracking References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39876675.728552A@clark.net> Precedence: bulk I am seeing him on a new install of Xastir! Jeff Griffin wrote: > > Had the pacgat up last so-35 (22:30z) pass, nothing heard from kh6jjd > > 73 Jeff kb2wqm > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike Edwards wrote: > > > > > You didn't mention where he's headed.. > > > > Annapoolis, to Norfolk, to New York and around Long Island... > > > > > Did he take the D7 instruction manual along? :-) > > > > Actually, yes, he downloaded it! > > I dont see him either... :-( > > > > bob > Dave -- --- David A. Aitcheson - KB3EFS I am not renewing the contract with my ISP (Verio/Borg) clark-net. Unless something changes my Email and WWW access is ending on or just before 15 Sept 2000. Email: KB3EFS@ARRL.NET or: CDJINTL@CLARK.NET <== Disappearing soon! Radio: 147.225+ 147.540 224.560- 224.760- 443.650+ 444.250+ Grid: FM19MB Lat: 39N 02' 34.08" Lon: 76W 56' 22.20" Web: http://www.clark.net/pub/cdjintl/ <== Disappearing soon! AOLim: cdjintl3 (home) <== Disappearing soon! ICQ: 34592569 <== Disappearing soon! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 1 22:07:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA02809 for ; Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:07:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:07:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Sailboat Tracking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, Jeff Griffin wrote: > Had the pacgat up last so-35 (22:30z) pass, nothing heard from kh6jjd Hey everyone, we coiuld use the next two weeks as a magnet to get everyone back on the air on the birds. After a few months of experimenting, I have kind of slacked off as well as many of the other testers. How about we try to keep the birds busy for the next two weeks? I doubt the sailboat will be up for many passes, but when they do, it would be nice if they saw something. And they are NOT running with messages wildcarded, so either send them a message, or send us all a bulletin... Remember, we have "SUNSAT" on 145.825 UP 9600 baud and 436.250 +/- 9 Khz down. and "UOSAT5" on 145.975 up and 435.120 +/- 9 KHz down. See ya. P.S. for every packet from KH6JJD, the academy Sail Boat, please tell me about it. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 05:06:08 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA08054 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 05:06:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:06:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] GPS - which one to choose? Reply-to: furlan@gmx.net Message-ID: Priority: normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39880EAB.30933.9B7F729@localhost> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk hello all, I am new on the list, so please forgive me if my question has been discussed before. I want to buy a new GPS to connect it to the THD7. My choice is either the Garmin Emap or the GPS III plus. I have no store in my region to look at the two units, especially the GPS 3+ I have never seen. So I ask you, which one you would recommend and how are the experiences. I would use the unit mainly in my car. my questions are: Do I need a external antenna for good performance in the car? What kind of adapter do I need to connect the Emap to an antenna with BNC connector (is it SMA?) The display in the emap seems to be better, is it also better readable or just bigger than in the GPS-3 plus? Is the 1.5 Meg adititional RAM in the GPS 3 enough, or is the memory card of 8MB a big advantage in the emap? Does the Emap display the Stations received from the Kenwood handy on its map like the GPS3+ does? many questions, I hope to find a friendly reader who knows both units and can help me to decide. txs, 73! Werner OE9FWV Thought for the day: Dictatorship (n): a form of government under which everything which is not prohibited is compulsory. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 06:30:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA16433 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 06:30:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 07:29:47 -0400 From: "Robert Murdock" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Motorola Ant. 97 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: htaprs@lists.tapr.org X-Return-Path: wx2nj@shorenetworks.com X-MDRcpt-To: htaprs@lists.tapr.org X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 Reply-To: wx2nj@shorenetworks.com Message-ID: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if the Motorola Antenna 97 with BNC listed on the TAPR site is compatible with the Garmin GPS II Plus? 73, Bob, WX2NJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 07:19:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA21961 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:19:16 -0500 (CDT) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 08:18:49 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS - which one to choose? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4e.9267e40.26b96ba9@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/2/00 4:06:36 AM Mountain Daylight Time, furlan@gmx.net writes: << Do I need a external antenna for good performance in the car? >> HI Werner, my Magellan 320 works fine just sitting on the dash board of my car. It also worked fine on a ferry boat ride I took up the "inside passage," provided the unit was next to a window. Dashboard operation means it is sitting there in the sun, so I protect/hide the unit if I leave the care for a while. There is list APRS - PLUS where the Garmin III seems to be very popular. I saw one and was impressed by its features. I thought it would be nice to have a remote antenna for an application deep inside an RV or boat. Mobile APRS is great fun but quite "wire" intensive. (1.) Remote antenna for D7A is nice, (2.) 12 V to the D7A boosts its power output, (3.) GPS connection to D7A and GPS connection to 12 V is nice because GPS's eat batteries (4.) I also connect my D7A to the car radio via one of those Radio Shack "cassette" adapters. This is nice because you can monitor (on the car radio) the local voice repeaters while your APRS is functioning on the other channel. Now adding a remote GPS antenna would be another cable to the setup. Drive very carefully if your application is mobile. ;-) At one time I even tried to add a headset microphone to this mess. APRS-Plus uses Street Atlas USA with computers or Palms to track multiple positions to the street level. Web pages of VE5DGD, David Dunster in Regina Saskatchewan Canada I purchased the Magellan because it was cheaper and had a hugh data base of marine waypoints. The so called Data Send CD leaves a lot to be desired. At some point I may upgrade to a Garmin so your research of the emap with be of interest to me. By the way I have seen Garmins for sale in many sports stores and even KMart. I saved some money and tax by Internet purchase but the Magellan arrived DOA (sent it back). If you purchase from a store verify operation before you leave the parking lot, though I don't think there is a high frequency of these failures. 73-Ron KD5HTY Albuquerque Many have helped me on these lists, so I thought I would respond. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 07:39:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA25215 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 07:39:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 7:39:21 Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS - which one to choose? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Paul Shiller" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I currently use the eMap with my THD7(G) and am pleased with the performance. The upgrade to the eMap software (2.5 I believe) is supposed to support NEMA in and out so waypoints should be visible. I also use this combination with a Palm IIIx and have had no problems. I haven't tried the upgraded eMap yet because my THD7 was being upgraded. By the way (for those interested) the radio was mailed on 7/6 and back at my doorstep on 7/28 from the East Coast facility. I would recommend the eMap although I don't have any experience with the GPS III. The 8 meg card is optional and I don't use it. You may want it though for your application. I would recommend the external antenna for use inside the car. Garmin has a small connector on the back of the eMap and I haven't seen an adapter for it to go to BNC. The antenna -I believe - is an active antenna which requires power from the eMap (?). Paul Shiller N8SIG paul.shiller@eng.ped.gmeds.com On 08/02/00, ""Dr. Werner Furlan" " wrote: > hello all, > > I am new on the list, so please forgive me if my question has been > discussed before. > I want to buy a new GPS to connect it to the THD7. My choice is either > the Garmin Emap or the GPS III plus. > I have no store in my region to look at the two units, especially the > GPS 3+ I have never seen. So I ask you, which one you would recommend > and how are the experiences. > I would use the unit mainly in my car. > my questions are: > Do I need a external antenna for good performance in the car? > What kind of adapter do I need to connect the Emap to an antenna with > BNC connector (is it SMA?) > The display in the emap seems to be better, is it also better readable > or just bigger than in the GPS-3 plus? > Is the 1.5 Meg adititional RAM in the GPS 3 enough, or is the memory > card of 8MB a big advantage in the emap? > Does the Emap display the Stations received from the Kenwood handy on > its map like the GPS3+ does? > > many questions, I hope to find a friendly reader who knows both units > and can help me to decide. > > txs, > > 73! > Werner > OE9FWV > > > Thought for the day: > Dictatorship (n): a form of government under which everything > which is not prohibited is compulsory. > > -- > PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc > SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at > Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 10:32:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA21757 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:32:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 18:35:21 +0300 From: "ROYSSAS THEOFANIS" X-Accept-Language: en,el MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Compaq C-1520 or Palm IIIe ?? Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39883FB9.27410F69@tee.gr> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Greetings to all of you from Athens,
i have a TH-D7E and just before a week i
got a Garmin GPS 12. I'm planning now to
buy a palmtop, and with the money i have to
spend i can get the Compaq C-1520 or the
Palm IIIe.
I want to start with APRS and i don't know
much about it. Which one is better for APRS ?
Is it easy to find software ? especially is there
any chance to find somewhere maps of Athens ?

Any help ore comment will be much appreciated.

73s de SV1BGM .......... Fanis.........................
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  --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 15:02:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA15371 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 15:02:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 16:01:25 -0400 From: Robert Marley <13764@UDel.Edu> X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Sailboat Tracking References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39887E15.250C1D21@udel.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" What is the digi path to use on the sat's? Will APRSAT work on all? I could not find a list of this anywhere. Also look for N3OBQ-7 this weekend on the Chesapeake bay. Racing the Governor's Cup Race to St. Mary's city. Start is Friday evening off of Annapolis, all night to the finish. Boat is a J/42 named Falcon. Robert Marley N3OBQ Bob Bruninga wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike Edwards wrote: > > > You didn't mention where he's headed.. > > Annapoolis, to Norfolk, to New York and around Long Island... > > > Did he take the D7 instruction manual along? :-) > > Actually, yes, he downloaded it! > I dont see him either... :-( > > bob > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: 13764@UDEL.EDU > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 16:22:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA09388 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:22:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 17:21:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Sailboat Tracking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk SUNSAT and UOSAT5. APRSAT should work on SO35 too, but it seems to come and go depending on the software load.. bob On Wed, 2 Aug 2000, Robert Marley wrote: > What is the digi path to use on the sat's? Will APRSAT work on all? I > could not find a list of this anywhere. > > Also look for N3OBQ-7 this weekend on the Chesapeake bay. Racing the > Governor's Cup Race to St. Mary's city. Start is Friday evening off of > Annapolis, all night to the finish. Boat is a J/42 named Falcon. > > Robert Marley N3OBQ > > Bob Bruninga wrote: > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Mike Edwards wrote: > > > > > You didn't mention where he's headed.. > > > > Annapoolis, to Norfolk, to New York and around Long Island... > > > > > Did he take the D7 instruction manual along? :-) > > > > Actually, yes, he downloaded it! > > I dont see him either... :-( > > > > bob > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: 13764@UDEL.EDU > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 21:22:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA00195 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:22:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] getting the th7d mic encode Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:22:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0091_01BFFCC7.BAC494C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009401bffcf1$a3e56160$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BFFCC7.BAC494C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how do you set the thd7a to do micencode format ------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BFFCC7.BAC494C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

how do you set the thd7a to do micencode=20 format
------=_NextPart_000_0091_01BFFCC7.BAC494C0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 2 21:50:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA04999 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2000 21:50:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Aug 2000 21:50:33 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: getting the th7d mic encode References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3988DDF9.C910B517@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > bdevine wrote: > > how do you set the thd7a to do micencode format I beleive it is only Mic-E encoded by default and I don't remember it being an option.. I will have to try to find my manual, :-( Robbie -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 3 03:51:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA04852 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 03:51:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:51:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] re: choose which GPS ? Reply-to: furlan@gmx.net Message-ID: Priority: normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39894EB0.1703.4123E15@localhost> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk hello all, I got very informative comments from Norman, Russ, Scott, Keith, Paul and Ron, where they explained how they made their choice and why they are all content with the unit they have. So both units are very nice. The decision is not so easy but I am more informed than before. my choice is going towards the GPS III plus because: the unit has a better battery life it seems to be easier to fix in a car because horizontal position is possible it has standard BNC plug for external antenna and if necessary I can use the antenna of the unit and with some meters of RG58 I have it outside the Van / boat / house it is easier to connect to a external voltage supply (12 V without voltage regulation possible) the map RAM of 1.5 MB is enough for my purpose I use it mainly in the car, so size and weight is not so important I live in a mountainous region with many woods so maybe a external antenna will be better than built in. thank you all who have answered, it is very much appreciated. 73! Werner OE9FWV Thought for the day: Concerto (n): a fight between a piano and a pianist. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 3 05:48:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA12793 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 05:48:43 -0500 (CDT) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 06:48:17 EDT Subject: [htaprs] re: choose which GPS ? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <60.5a049f2.26baa7f1@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/3/00 2:54:03 AM Mountain Daylight Time, furlan@gmx.net writes: << I live in a mountainous region with many woods so maybe a external antenna will be better than built in. thank you all who have answered, it is very much appreciated. >> Werner ! you will have fun with your D7A and the GPS. I am fascinated by both technologies (but no expert). One of the things I like to do is document photograph locations by making a waypoint in the GPS. Later these positions can be downloaded to Street Atlas. 73-R --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 3 11:07:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA21315 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:07:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS - which one to choose? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:05:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BFFD32.5D77FD00.tarnerich@in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk "Dr. Werner Furlan" wrote: >I want to buy a new GPS to connect it to the THD7. My choice is either >the Garmin Emap or the GPS III plus. >I would use the unit mainly in my car. >my questions are: >Do I need a external antenna for good performance in the car? You might. It depends on the vehicle, especially because of variations in the window glass (tinted or clear). I have seen cases of older vehicles with clear glass in which the GPS receiver can be located anywhere and still work, even on the floor between the front seats. Luckily the approximately 1500 MHz signals do a good job of bouncing around the interior of most vehicles. I have also seen cases of newer vehicles with heavy window tinting in which the reception is slightly poor even with the GPS sitting far forward on the dashboard. The slope of the windshield is a factor - the antenna needs a clear view of most of the sky, which is not easy if the windshield is nearly vertical. An external antenna can provide some important benefits: 1) You can place it on the vehicle roof for a completely unobstructed view of the sky. This will give you better position fixes on average because more satellites are visible at any one time, and also because you don't have to worry about the receiver taking a long time to lock onto the signal from a satellite that was just "revealed" when your vehicle changed directions. Not everybody wants to leave an antenna exposed to the weather or vandals though. 2) It can allow you to hold the GPS receiver close for viewing while still receiving good signals with the antenna placed well forward on the dashboard. 3) Many of the remote antennas also include low noise amplifiers, so your GPS signal reception will probably improve. This is important if you drive in places where there is heavy tree cover. Also see my point #1 above. So at the very least you should select a GPS that will accept an external antenna. You don't have to buy the antenna unless you find out that the signal quality isn't sufficient without it. *** Another person responded about the physical mess that can result from all the wires going between all the different pieces of equipment. At least the THD7 combines the radio and the TNC. That eliminates one cable, but if you find that 5 watts isn't enough transmit power, you might end up adding an amplifier so there's another cable. I think that you are getting the idea that doing the installation well takes a lot of work. In my case I used to use a handheld GPS with a remote antenna in my tracker. The mess of wires was intolerable, especially to my passengers. My solution was to install the cables permanently in hidden places, and to buy a second GPS to be permanently installed in the vehicle. It's a Garmin 35 which has no display or keyboard, no user interface of any kind. There are other manufacturers to choose from as well: Rockwell makes a GPS receiver that isn't even inside a case, Pharos makes a very small receiver with a case. You can get specific recommendations about those from other people who read this list. I wouldn't recommend a no-interface GPS if it's your first GPS purchase though - you will probably want to be able to make use of it handheld from time to time. It's a large investment, so that makes a lot of sense. If you really will use the GPS primarily in the car, then the Garmin III+ is much easier than the EMap to install well. It sits low on the dashboard and there is a nice quick-release dashboard mount available. 73, Tony KD7TA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 00:16:29 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA19335 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 0:15:54 Subject: [htaprs] SMA to BNC Adapter To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Anthony Parise" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk For those of you with a similar dislike of the TH-D7 antenna connector and antenna to my own, I have found an SMA to BNC adapter that can be left on the 'D7. It is working out well for me and I thought I'd pass it along. I have a writeup on my web page: http://www.qsl.net/wa3hrl. No, I'm not selling it, nor do I get a commision, I'm just passing it along for those of you who may find it as useful as I do. Tony Parise WA3HRL wa3hrl@qsl.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 04:57:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id EAA23500 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 04:57:58 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Simon J Hopkins" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Update from Kenwood UK on THD-700S, THD-7E etc Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:57:30 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000101bffdfa$67069840$0800a8c0@sjh> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The following is the text of an email sent to me by David Wilkins of Kenwood UK: Firstly, re the sub-versions of the D700E. In Japan they have a far more developed Novice system and (I've head rumoured) have a million novices - so many in fact that they aren't in the callbooks! As these novices use low power, there are in turn many low-powered versions of the different radios, so for example in Japan we sell the TS-570 in 10 Watt, 50 Watt and 100 Watt versions. In the West, a 10 watt TS-570 wouldn't be much use so we don't import it! In Europe, we have the 50 Watt D700 as the TM-D700E. In Japan this is known as the D700S with built-in TNC. There is also a 20 Watt low power version with TNC called the D700 (no added suffix letter). The V708S is the non-TNC high-power version - the V708 is the low-power non-TNC version. A V708S is really similar to the TM-V7E, so it wouldn't really fit in our product range. I don't think that these units have a built-in GPS - the adverts seem to mention connection to external units such as our own Japanese-market one. They are also designed to link to the home market in-car CD-ROM based GPS navigation system known as "Navitra". This is a merger between the CD-nav systems sold in car HiFi shops, and APRS/Ui-View. There isn't a comparable system in the west, mainly due to the cost of the CD-ROM hardware being more than Amateurs want to pay, whilst non-Amateurs don't want or need the radio aspects. Re the Version 2 TH-D7E, this is the only model in our range where two Western countries have diverging models. As KISS mode was not of much interest to the USA, their version 2 radio, the (G) version, majored on changes to the GPS handling as that was more important to them. They are now quite different radios to suit local market conditions. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++ I hope that this is of interest to the UK subscribers and maybe even the US ones. Regards Simon Hopkins G8PXB --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 18:05:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA29074 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 18:05:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:03:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Smoke and Fire Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk WHile I cannot even come close to matching the losses and sacrificies in the name of APRS as Steve (Lost his home to a Hurricane while at DCC, Lost much equipment to a recent burglary, and others), I had a minor skirmish you may find amusing... I curse Sony and Zenith for their inverted power connectors. The 14 USNA Boats got underway this morning at 7 AM, and I had 13 of them with working old zenith laptops when I left last night. On the way home last night, I realized I could just pull out my old Zenith from my car and do a quick substitution pierside this morning. So, I did. I unplugged the laptop, but then dropped by my office to run in and use my personal laptop to calculate a V# for the Boat's call and then ran back to my car... But when I returned to my car, black smoke was pouring out the windows! My between seats console was on fire, flames engulfing the laptop on all sides. I jerked it out (it landed open, upside down, about 6 feet away on the concrete. Now I could see the Kenwood D700 was in flames. I smothered it with an APRS T shirt, which also caught fire and had to be stomped to ashes. Car was saved, nothing but the Kenwood and Tshirt was lost. Zenith Laptop still worked and was placed on the boat and they got underway with 5 minutes to spare. (All ashore thats going ashore... etc) The forensics show that the (curse Zenith and Sony) inverted barrel DC connector which has +12 on the OUTSIDE had dropped between the seats and had contacted the seat mechanism. Since I had used a "normal" power cord with the Fuse in the + (center) lead, the (curse Sony and Zenith) outer (now +) lead was now in fact, unfused. Ergo, smoke and fire. THis lit the case of the D700 on fire which then provided the fuel to begin burning the console... Actually, the D700 may still work. 50% of the plastic front cowling is totally burned/charred/melted plastic, both the Mic and front panel connectors are now bare burned copper and the plastic RJ connectors are all melted together. But once I carve them out, to remove the copper-to-copper shorts, we may just get lucky if nothing internal got burned. (Later... nope, its back to kenwood time...) Curse SOny and Zenith... ALso, PCElectronics (ATV MFR) used to put 12 volts on the tip of sub mini phone plugs to power his ATV downconverters. I guaranteed him that EVERY time you take ATV mobile/portable in a car, that TIP is going to hit something. In fact, it shorts every time you plug it in and unplug it! No big deal when you power it from a 50 ma wall wart. But a disaster when you power it from any kind of battery with your portable ATV transmitter. Even if you fuse it, you guarantee to blow a fuse every time you plug it in or drop it, or whatever.. Finally I convinced him how bad that was and he switched to standard DC barrels years ago... So watch those plugs! Oh, for a picture, see http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/KwdSmoke.jpg de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 21:06:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA27611 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:06:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: yd794@mail.victoria.tc.ca Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 17:51:48 -0700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: John D Erskine Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000804175148.007a9160@mail.victoria.tc.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Damn Standard too! That's a heck of a mess Bob. Went to the trouble of firing up Comit and going on line to retrive the jpg, Wow! I once used a 1/4 inch phone jack as a DC power connection back when I was a kid, never again. Ran into the Standard non-standard approach, which is same as Sony and Zenith, when my now ex picked up an HT of theirs at Dayton one year. Next year I was back asking them what gave. Their answer, not a pun, was that it was standard. Hmph! Apparently for "consumer" electronic devices. Told them about 12 VDC swinging around the vehicle cockpit. They weren't as interested as in the theoretical safety it gave them in either not draining the batteries or what ever when a unit was plugged into external power. I think something to do with the jack's switching of one side vice the other. Told them I'd rewire it if it was mine. Cut traces and everything. Matter of fact my trusty Tandy Model 100 laptop and portable drive use 6 VDC + on the outside of the coaxial barrel too. At 19:03 4/8/00 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote: >WHile I cannot even come close to matching the losses and sacrificies in >the name of APRS as Steve (Lost his home to a Hurricane while at DCC, Lost >much equipment to a recent burglary, and others), I had a minor skirmish >you may find amusing... > >I curse Sony and Zenith for their inverted power connectors. chomp >curse Zenith and Sony >curse Sony and Zenith >Curse SOny and Zenith... >So watch those plugs! >Oh, for a picture, see http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/KwdSmoke.jpg > >de WB4APR, Bob /chomp mini-edit 73 JD John D Erskine mailto:VA7JD@rac.ca APRS call mailto:VA7OTC@rac.ca VA7JD VE3/VE6/VA7OTC Victoria BC - Vancouver Island CN88JH --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 22:33:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA15107 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:33:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:31:24 -0500 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <398B8A8C.B1D6C7A9@megsinet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Sorry to hear about your loss, Bob. Hope the D700 is still under warranty! Skip K9SA Bob Bruninga wrote: > > WHile I cannot even come close to matching the losses and sacrificies in > the name of APRS as Steve (Lost his home to a Hurricane while at DCC, Lost > much equipment to a recent burglary, and others), I had a minor skirmish > you may find amusing... > > I curse Sony and Zenith for their inverted power connectors. > > The 14 USNA Boats got underway this morning at 7 AM, and I had 13 of them > with working old zenith laptops when I left last night. On the way home > last night, I realized I could just pull out my old Zenith from my car and > do a quick substitution pierside this morning. > > So, I did. I unplugged the laptop, but then dropped by my office to > run in and use my personal laptop to calculate a V# for the Boat's call > and then ran back to my car... > > But when I returned to my car, black smoke was pouring out the windows! > My between seats console was on fire, flames engulfing the laptop on all > sides. I jerked it out (it landed open, upside down, about 6 feet away on > the concrete. Now I could see the Kenwood D700 was in flames. I > smothered it with an APRS T shirt, which also caught fire and had to be > stomped to ashes. > > Car was saved, nothing but the Kenwood and Tshirt was lost. Zenith Laptop > still worked and was placed on the boat and they got underway with 5 > minutes to spare. (All ashore thats going ashore... etc) > > The forensics show that the (curse Zenith and Sony) inverted barrel DC > connector which has +12 on the OUTSIDE had dropped between the seats and > had contacted the seat mechanism. Since I had used a "normal" power cord > with the Fuse in the + (center) lead, the (curse Sony and Zenith) outer > (now +) lead was now in fact, unfused. Ergo, smoke and fire. THis lit > the case of the D700 on fire which then provided the fuel to begin burning > the console... > > Actually, the D700 may still work. 50% of the plastic front cowling is > totally burned/charred/melted plastic, both the Mic and front panel > connectors are now bare burned copper and the plastic RJ connectors are > all melted together. But once I carve them out, to remove the > copper-to-copper shorts, we may just get lucky if nothing internal got > burned. (Later... nope, its back to kenwood time...) > > Curse SOny and Zenith... > > ALso, PCElectronics (ATV MFR) used to put 12 volts on the tip of sub mini > phone plugs to power his ATV downconverters. I guaranteed him that EVERY > time you take ATV mobile/portable in a car, that TIP is going to hit > something. In fact, it shorts every time you plug it in and unplug it! > No big deal when you power it from a 50 ma wall wart. But a disaster when > you power it from any kind of battery with your portable ATV transmitter. > Even if you fuse it, you guarantee to blow a fuse every time you plug it > in or drop it, or whatever.. Finally I convinced him how bad that was and > he switched to standard DC barrels years ago... > > So watch those plugs! > > Oh, for a picture, see http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/KwdSmoke.jpg > > de WB4APR, Bob > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: sallison@megsinet.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 22:41:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA15717 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:41:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 22:40:57 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000804223711.00afad70@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Warranties don't cover fire, especially if caused by another device. Perhaps homeowner's insurance might cover the loss. I had a buddy who had a mobile HF rig stolen out of his car. Car insurance wouldn't cover it, but his insurance agent asked if he ever used the rig in his house. And when he said yes, it was in a quick-release bracket, and he used it often in his house, they cut him a check. Mark KC7BXS At 10:31 PM 8/4/00, Skip Allison wrote: >Sorry to hear about your loss, Bob. Hope the D700 is still under >warranty! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 23:03:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA18239 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 23:03:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "John R Stengel" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to BNC Adapter Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 00:02:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004d01bffe92$0ab9eae0$0301a8c0@WESTGATE> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Like Tony I am using the SMA to BNC from Steve KC2BHO and have been extremely satisfied. The connector screws on tight and stays tight. I change antennas quite often and this connector makes it very easy without excessive strain on the SMA connector on the radio. Like Tony I am using the SMA to BNC from Steve KC2BHO and have been extremely satisfied. The connector screws on tight and stays tight. I change antennas quite often and this connector makes it simple to change without putting extra strain on the SMA connector on the radio. Like Tony I am not getting any commission, but I am a satisfied customer. Thank You, John, W8UC john@amsat.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Anthony Parise To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:15 AM Subject: [htaprs] SMA to BNC Adapter > For those of you with a similar dislike of the TH-D7 antenna connector and > antenna to my own, I have found an SMA to BNC adapter that can be left on > the 'D7. It is working out well for me and I thought I'd pass it along. I > have a writeup on my web page: http://www.qsl.net/wa3hrl. No, I'm not > selling it, nor do I get a commision, I'm just passing it along for those > of you who may find it as useful as I do. > > Tony Parise > WA3HRL > wa3hrl@qsl.net > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jstengel@cinci.rr.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 4 23:15:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA19508 for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2000 23:15:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 00:25:23 -0700 From: fclarke X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <398BC163.1184E15E@erols.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Which is why I whacked all sorts and kinds of connectors off my various things and standardized on Anderson Powerpoles!! Added benny is that everything is compatible with everything else in my car, shack, flying machine, backpack, batteries, power supplies,etc. Sure glad you weren't inside for a long session!! 73 de Tom/W4OKW Pax River John D Erskine wrote: > > Damn Standard too! > > That's a heck of a mess Bob. Went to the trouble of firing up Comit and > going on line to retrive the jpg, Wow! > I once used a 1/4 inch phone jack as a DC power connection back when I was > a kid, never again. > > Ran into the Standard non-standard approach, which is same as Sony and > Zenith, when my now ex picked up an HT of theirs at Dayton one year. Next > year I was back asking them what gave. Their answer, not a pun, was that it > was standard. Hmph! Apparently for "consumer" electronic devices. Told them > about 12 VDC swinging around the vehicle cockpit. They weren't as > interested as in the theoretical safety it gave them in either not draining > the batteries or what ever when a unit was plugged into external power. I > think something to do with the jack's switching of one side vice the other. > Told them I'd rewire it if it was mine. Cut traces and everything. > > Matter of fact my trusty Tandy Model 100 laptop and portable drive use 6 > VDC + on the outside of the coaxial barrel too. > > At 19:03 4/8/00 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote: > >WHile I cannot even come close to matching the losses and sacrificies in > >the name of APRS as Steve (Lost his home to a Hurricane while at DCC, Lost > >much equipment to a recent burglary, and others), I had a minor skirmish > >you may find amusing... > > > >I curse Sony and Zenith for their inverted power connectors. > chomp > >curse Zenith and Sony > >curse Sony and Zenith > >Curse SOny and Zenith... > >So watch those plugs! > >Oh, for a picture, see http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/KwdSmoke.jpg > > > >de WB4APR, Bob > /chomp mini-edit > > 73 JD > John D Erskine mailto:VA7JD@rac.ca APRS call mailto:VA7OTC@rac.ca > VA7JD VE3/VE6/VA7OTC Victoria BC - Vancouver Island CN88JH > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: FCLARKE@EROLS.COM > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 5 08:06:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA03492 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 08:06:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:07:07 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk FYI... Things vary from state in the insurance world. NORMALLY the auto policy will not cover a ham radio without an endorsement to the auto policy. They are not always economical if you calculate it out. However, any smoke/fire damage to Bob's vehicle should be covered by his FTC (Fire, Theft, Comprehensive) coverage on his auto insurance should he have this coverage. The radio itself "MIGHT" be covered by the homeowner policy depending on how it is written and unfortunately sometimes on "how" it is reported to the company. Not saying to lie about it but sometimes they don't understand the Ham Radio community and how our items work. There "USED" to be a caveat in some homeowner policies whereby if the radio could be powered off a source in your home other than the auto it was covered. So Mark was correct in his statement below. However, there was an exclusion something to the effect that if it was powered by the auto that it was excluded. So we are back to the ambiguity. Then if you were "transporting" the radio from one place to another in your vehicle it was covered by your homeowner policy. Since I'm in NC our policies are a LOT different than the rest of the world on occassion. Go figure... Unfortunately insurance policies are written by politicians or lawyers generally and can be ambigious. Guess I need to add a webpage about insurance sometime but then that would require more research on my part!Hi. I can only assume my message is as confusing as the policy itself. Hope it helps some. Bottom line is REALLY read your policy and tie down your agent. BUT remember agents sell it ... They don't have to fix it or handle the claim generally. Might be better to find an adjuster for your area and ask him for the real scoop! 73... Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.Net N4WYK@AMSAT.Org N4WYK@ARRL.Net WORK - Tiltonr@nationwide.com Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: http://web.infoave.net/~n4wyk > > Warranties don't cover fire, especially if caused by another > device. Perhaps homeowner's insurance might cover the loss. I had a > buddy who had a mobile HF rig stolen out of his car. Car insurance > wouldn't cover it, but his insurance agent asked if he ever used > the rig in > his house. And when he said yes, it was in a quick-release > bracket, and he > used it often in his house, they cut him a check. > > Mark > KC7BXS > > At 10:31 PM 8/4/00, Skip Allison wrote: > > >Sorry to hear about your loss, Bob. Hope the D700 is still under > >warranty! > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 5 09:09:16 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA08903 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 09:09:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:02:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000701bffee5$cc606ae0$0593a8c0@todd2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm really wondering why there is so much titter about homeowner's policies. The tilt on politicians and lawyers was unique, I live in NC and have never had any question about any of my insurance policies. I have lived in NY, FL, and NE and had no problems either. Maybe it's the democrats in office here in NC that are causing an insurance ambiguity problem. I bet it is. If the radio was covered under the ARRL insurance plan, there would be no questions being asked about replacement of the radio. Yes, all of my radio equipment is covered under the ARRL insurance plan, and has been covered for several years. If Bob has this insurance, he's already contacted them about it and a new radio should have been on the way by now. No adjusters to figure out what a two-way radio even is, no debate if it is used inside the house more than it is in the car, no worry that it won't be covered under auto or homeowners... Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Tilton To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 9:07 AM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire > FYI... Things vary from state in the insurance world. NORMALLY the auto > policy will not cover a ham radio without an endorsement to the auto policy. > They are not always economical if you calculate it out. However, any > smoke/fire damage to Bob's vehicle should be covered by his FTC (Fire, > Theft, Comprehensive) coverage on his auto insurance should he have this > coverage. The radio itself "MIGHT" be covered by the homeowner policy > depending on how it is written and unfortunately sometimes on "how" it is > reported to the company. Not saying to lie about it but sometimes they > don't understand the Ham Radio community and how our items work. There > "USED" to be a caveat in some homeowner policies whereby if the radio could > be powered off a source in your home other than the auto it was covered. So > Mark was correct in his statement below. However, there was an exclusion > something to the effect that if it was powered by the auto that it was > excluded. So we are back to the ambiguity. Then if you were "transporting" > the radio from one place to another in your vehicle it was covered by your > homeowner policy. Since I'm in NC our policies are a LOT different than the > rest of the world on occassion. Go figure... Unfortunately insurance > policies are written by politicians or lawyers generally and can be > ambigious. Guess I need to add a webpage about insurance sometime but then > that would require more research on my part!Hi. I can only assume my message > is as confusing as the policy itself. Hope it helps some. Bottom line is > REALLY read your policy and tie down your agent. BUT remember agents sell it > ... They don't have to fix it or handle the claim generally. Might be > better to find an adjuster for your area and ask him for the real scoop! > 73... > > Rick Tilton > ARS - N4WYK > N4WYK@Infoave.Net > N4WYK@AMSAT.Org > N4WYK@ARRL.Net > WORK - Tiltonr@nationwide.com > Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: http://web.infoave.net/~n4wyk > > > > > Warranties don't cover fire, especially if caused by another > > device. Perhaps homeowner's insurance might cover the loss. I had a > > buddy who had a mobile HF rig stolen out of his car. Car insurance > > wouldn't cover it, but his insurance agent asked if he ever used > > the rig in > > his house. And when he said yes, it was in a quick-release > > bracket, and he > > used it often in his house, they cut him a check. > > > > Mark > > KC7BXS > > > > At 10:31 PM 8/4/00, Skip Allison wrote: > > > > >Sorry to hear about your loss, Bob. Hope the D700 is still under > > >warranty! > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tellis6@bellsouth.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 5 10:29:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA16871 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:29:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 11:35:23 -0400 From: Dewey Bryant KD4EHC Organization: Hamilton County, TN ARES EC X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: htaprs digest: August 04, 2000 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <398C343A.1510C964@bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > TAPR Hot Technology APRS Digest for Friday, August 04, 2000. > > Subject: Smoke and Fire > From: Bob Bruninga > Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 19:03:56 -0400 (EDT) > X-Message-Number: 3 > > Curse SOny and Zenith... > Bob. \ Has dissimmular experience with Kenwood 741 w/ head remoted. Car has #4 fused +/- at both battery & trunk then to power distribution block also +/- fused then to individual power cords also +/- fused. BUT, Kenwood puts unfused 12v on remote cable to head, which, of course shorted out. Resulted in remote cable burnt in half, and trace damage to CPU and all three RF decks. If the unit hadn't been mounted on shock mounted stainless steel plate, fire in trunk or totaled car, would have occured. Severe pitting on plate under remote cable burn through. APRS & other radios in trunk would have been lost too. SAFETY FIRST, SECOND & THIRD !!!! DB Hamilton Co. TN ARES EC Lookout / TAG / MRX = SKYWARN B/I/A CARC / OARS / Red Cross DAT FEMA / TEMA ICS-EOC-Haz Mat --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 5 10:48:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA19836 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 10:48:13 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 11:46:18 +0000 Subject: [htaprs] SMA connector assembly From: Stan Horzepa To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have instructions for the proper assembly of a male SMA connector? My best guess at assembling the connector results in coax that slides out of the connector, which is not a good thing for my D7A transmitter! Thank you, Stan "clueless in SMA-land" Horzepa, WA1LOU --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 5 12:53:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA09446 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2000 12:53:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Aug 2000 09:21:00 -0700 From: Dale Blanchard X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <398C3EEC.182B88CA@accessnv.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk fclarke wrote: > > Which is why I whacked all sorts and kinds of connectors off my various > things and standardized on Anderson Powerpoles!! Added benny is that > everything is compatible with everything else in my car, shack, flying > machine, backpack, batteries, power supplies,etc. I just found out last month that APRS has standardized on one polarity for the powerpoles(the one I have been using for years) and that ARES has standardized on the opposite polarity. My brother says Utah has standardized on the opposite polarity from APRS. I just remember what mine is and look at it before using. It is nice to be able to split them and reverse it, or install an ampmeter. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 6 06:50:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA12700 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 06:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dave@callnet.com Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 07:50:23 -0400 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Dave Hungerford Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700A Mike Gain? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20000806072937.0094e920@callnet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk People complain that my audio is very low on my TM-D700. Where is the pot for the mike gain on the TM-D700? Where can I find a technical manual? Thanks. Dave N1OLX --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 6 09:21:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA29422 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Mike Gain? Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:59:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000d01bfffb0$a1351200$0593a8c0@todd2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I also need this information; I asked this several months ago and have received no response from anyone. Time to call Kenwood again? Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Hungerford To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 7:50 AM Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700A Mike Gain? > People complain that my audio is very low on my TM-D700. Where is the pot > for the mike gain on the TM-D700? Where can I find a technical manual? Thanks. > Dave N1OLX > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tellis6@bellsouth.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 6 10:51:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA12249 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:51:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 16:54:59 PDT Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire From: Carl Littlejohns Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Damn Standard too! > Reminds me of my standard C-78, that took power through a 2.5mm jack plug - BUT with a slightly wider than normal bit of insulation between the tip and the stem - a regular one shorts on insertion... :) (ouch) Carl gw0tqm --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 6 18:30:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA23380 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 18:30:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] here is a program that i think any one running windows ce 2.0 and mips processor will find interesting Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 18:29:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFFFD4.32A83FA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000b01bffffe$1e2cece0$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BFFFD4.32A83FA0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0008_01BFFFD4.32A83FA0" ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01BFFFD4.32A83FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_001_0008_01BFFFD4.32A83FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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dgreig@mail.picknowl.com.au Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 09:50:01 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Denis Greig Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700A Status Text help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.20000807095001.5ea7c276@mail.picknowl.com.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk G'day All, Well I was able to finially get my hands on a TM-D700A on Friday, what a great radio (and I thought my TH-D7A was good!) One thing I have not been able to figure out is the sending of Status Text. I have two Status Text messages stored via Menu option 3-9 The second one I have selected to USE is "VK5PC TM-D700 at home" I can read this info into the PC when I save it using the Kenwood comms s/ware, so it is stored in the radio Ok When I send a Beacon all that is received as the Status Text, by the TH-D7A or Ui-View, is a ] If I turn on the GPS Rx and select NMEA from the menu the Status text received changes to ]"4I} I have reset the radio and reloaded it from the PC with no improvement to the Status text received. Position Comment (In Service), Position info (35.00.22S, 138.32.02 E), and Messages transmission are received Ok By monitoring the channel I believe the data transmitted by the radio is, >SPR0R2,Relay*,WIDE :'B<#1 #-/] (this copy of Eudora will not print a square solid block so I have replaced it with a #) What have I missed ? its gotta be something simple (I hope!) One thing I was disappointed with was that the VOICE REPEATER funtion has been disabled, although it is still in the menu. How can this feature reactivated for my TM-D700A (export) model ? Any help you guys can give me will be much appreciated. 73 Denis VK5PC e-mail: vk5pc@bigfoot.com Denis Greig 18 Louise Ave Warradale 5046 South Australia e-mail: vk5pc@bigfoot.com Ph (w): +618 8401 6740 Fax(w): +618 8410 1859 ph (h): +618 8377 1374 Homepage: http://www.picknowl.com.au/homepages/dgreig/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 6 20:18:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA11093 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 20:18:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 18:23:17 -0700 From: Dale Blanchard X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Smoke and Fire References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <398E0F85.6306DD51@accessnv.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Carl Littlejohns wrote: > > > Damn Standard too! I have a Sony cd player and my son has a Sony cd player , each one has diferent polarity. for the 12 vold plug to 9v. they both use 4 aa cells, but none of the accessories interchange. but the power plugs fit, just dont work because of the bloking diods.. I hate Sony for there dumb things. every month they go from 9 volts to 6 volts then to + polarity then to - polarity then back to 6 volts and it just keeps on forever. Most of my new american made stuff runs on 6 to 32 volts center pin positive. With a very efficient switching power supply. It is a nice standard because you can use it in your car a 24 volt truck or an airplane. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 6 21:17:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA19507 for ; Sun, 6 Aug 2000 21:17:14 -0500 (CDT) From: kk5yy@arrl.net (Gerald Schmitt) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Interesting THD-7A(G) APRS+AS Problem Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 02:16:18 GMT Reply-To: kk5yy@arrl.net Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39901bc5.36986944@smtp.mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id VAA19507 Howdy Guys, After functioning quite perfectly for a year now my THD-7 no longer gets along with APRS+SA. G mods were installed at Dayton and it seemed to work fine between Dayton and Indianapolis. I noticed on the way to Flagstaff that suddenly my moving map wasn't. A quick poke of tie "POS" button revealed that once again I was at 00.00.00 by 00.00.00. This is after working perfectly for several hundred miles. If one switched the THD-7 to beacon it immediately locked up with the GPS and began beaconing my correct position. I have tried this several time since then and have had much the same results. The program starts and functions for some time then the radio can no longer read the GPS data stream. Something seems to be changing the setting of the GPS port in packet mode. I have tried other GPS units with the same result. Any suggestions would be most welcome. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 05:52:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA08195 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 05:52:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: Reply-To: "Billy Mason, KD5KNR" From: "Billy Mason, KD5KNR" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Mounting TM-D700 Control Head Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 05:53:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C00033.BF857320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001201c0005d$adda5760$ae3c88cf@b0003195> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C00033.BF857320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone have any suggestions for mounting the control head of a D700 = in a '99 Ford Explorer? The radio itself, fits fine under the back = seats... plenty of breathing room when even when they are folded down. Also, where might the best place for the power source be? It appears = there is no easy place/way to get bridge through the firewall. I am = currently utilizing the utility plug on the console, but with after = reading the latest "Up In Smoke" stories... I really don't want to = utilize it as a permanent power source. Billy Mason, KD5KNR ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C00033.BF857320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does anyone have any suggestions for mounting the control head of a = D700 in=20 a '99 Ford Explorer?  The radio itself, fits fine under the back = seats...=20 plenty of breathing room when even when they are folded down.
 
Also, where might the best place for the power source = be?  It=20 appears there is no easy place/way to get bridge through the = firewall. I am=20 currently utilizing the utility plug on the console, but with after=20 reading the latest "Up In Smoke" stories... I really don't = want to=20 utilize it as a permanent power source.
 
Billy Mason, KD5KNR
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C00033.BF857320-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 10:38:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA03607 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:38:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Thomas M. Schaefer" From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mounting TM-D700 Control Head Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:38:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002B_01C00053.33A571A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002e01c00085$7f6ffd30$6ec6ed89@SC017588> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C00053.33A571A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I installed a remote radio in an explorer with a friend. We ran power = under the vehicle using good-oil and weather DC zip cord. If you look = under the passenger seat behind the driver, there is a gap in the = carpet. Under the carpet is a rubber grommet. You can put the power up = into that grommet (use silicon to seal it). The radio can mount right = there as well. For the control head, check out the mounts at Panavise = (www.panavise.com). They have mounts that attach beside the radio or A/C = controls. A small piece of metal comes out next to the trim (no holes). = You can then put the "fins" of the D700 mount straight up in the air = parallel to the radio. The holes on the D700 mount match perfectly to = the Panavise mount. If you order from Electro-Comm (www.ecwest.com) you = can usually get the mount at cost ($16). The great part of this mount is that the radio is up where you can see = it. With the D700, you tend to look at the display, so the closer it is = to your windshield, the better. Resist the temptation to install it on = the console because you end up looking down too much. Good Luck, Tom NY4I ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Billy Mason, KD5KNR=20 To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS=20 Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:53 AM Subject: [htaprs] Mounting TM-D700 Control Head Does anyone have any suggestions for mounting the control head of a = D700 in a '99 Ford Explorer? The radio itself, fits fine under the back = seats... plenty of breathing room when even when they are folded down. Also, where might the best place for the power source be? It appears = there is no easy place/way to get bridge through the firewall. I am = currently utilizing the utility plug on the console, but with after = reading the latest "Up In Smoke" stories... I really don't want to = utilize it as a permanent power source. Billy Mason, KD5KNR ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C00053.33A571A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I installed a remote radio in an = explorer with a=20 friend. We ran power under the vehicle using good-oil and weather DC zip = cord.=20 If you look under the passenger seat behind the driver, there is a gap = in the=20 carpet. Under the carpet is a rubber grommet. You can put the power up = into that=20 grommet (use silicon to seal it). The radio can mount right there as = well. For=20 the control head, check out the mounts at Panavise (www.panavise.com). They have mounts = that=20 attach beside the radio or A/C controls. A small piece of metal comes = out next=20 to the trim (no holes). You can then put the "fins" of the D700 mount = straight=20 up in the air parallel to the radio. The holes on the D700 mount match = perfectly=20 to the Panavise mount. If you order from Electro-Comm (www.ecwest.com) you can usually get = the mount=20 at cost ($16).
 
The great part of this mount is that = the radio is=20 up where you can see it. With the D700, you tend to look at the display, = so the=20 closer it is to your windshield, the better. Resist the temptation to = install it=20 on the console because you end up looking down too much.
 
Good Luck,
 
Tom NY4I
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Billy = Mason,=20 KD5KNR
To: TAPR Hot=20 Technology APRS
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 = 4:53=20 AM
Subject: [htaprs] Mounting = TM-D700=20 Control Head

Does anyone have any suggestions for mounting the control head of = a D700=20 in a '99 Ford Explorer?  The radio itself, fits fine under the = back=20 seats... plenty of breathing room when even when they are folded = down.
 
Also, where might the best place for the power source = be?  It=20 appears there is no easy place/way to get bridge through the = firewall. I=20 am currently utilizing the utility plug on the console, but with after = reading the latest "Up In Smoke" stories... I really don't = want to=20 utilize it as a permanent power source.
 
Billy Mason, KD5KNR
------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C00053.33A571A0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 10:47:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA06010 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:47:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:47:27 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Status Text help To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Jeffrey Brissette" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I had the same question a while ago. The answer I got was that the ]"4I} type information was the altitude in MIC-E format. From the line you displayed however it doesn't appear that you are sending a status text thought. You might want to check to see what the status text transmit rate is, its menu 3-A. The default is off from the factory. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 15:04:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA11643 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 15:04:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Peter Anderson To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Alternate APRS frequency? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:03:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I am looking for an alternate APRS frequency for use in the mountains to track my dog (that's right, track my dog) I am experimenting with a doggy pack that has the TH-D7A, and a GPS. (no Palm Pilot as she can't read the darn thing anyways) But don't want to disturb others that are running APRS as the real thing either. Is there an alternate frequency that is recommended for this? Peter Anderson Qwest Choice TV Center Partners Inc Ext: 6401 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 16:17:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA00961 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:17:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Bob Snyder" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alternate APRS frequency? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:17:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <024c01c000b4$dcfaa160$0ce391cc@toontown.erial.nj.us> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk But what if we wanted to track your dog? :-) Bob N2KGO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Anderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:03 PM Subject: [htaprs] Alternate APRS frequency? > Hi all, > > I am looking for an alternate APRS frequency for use in the mountains to > track my dog (that's right, track my dog) I am experimenting with a doggy > pack that has the TH-D7A, and a GPS. (no Palm Pilot as she can't read the > darn thing anyways) But don't want to disturb others that are running APRS > as the real thing either. Is there an alternate frequency that is > recommended for this? > > Peter Anderson > Qwest Choice TV > Center Partners Inc > Ext: 6401 > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rsnyder@toontown.erial.nj.us > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 16:30:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA03391 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "David Zobel" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alternate APRS frequency? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:29:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <007e01c000b6$94f97c40$c13dfea9@rochester.rr.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk What is your dogs call, K9DOG? Sounds like a neat idea. We threaten to get a GPS for our teenage daughter before she gets her drivers license. She has no sense of direction. ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Anderson To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:03 PM Subject: [htaprs] Alternate APRS frequency? > Hi all, > > I am looking for an alternate APRS frequency for use in the mountains to > track my dog (that's right, track my dog) I am experimenting with a doggy > pack that has the TH-D7A, and a GPS. (no Palm Pilot as she can't read the > darn thing anyways) But don't want to disturb others that are running APRS > as the real thing either. Is there an alternate frequency that is > recommended for this? > > Peter Anderson > Qwest Choice TV > Center Partners Inc > Ext: 6401 > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: dzobel1@rochester.rr.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 16:58:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA09115 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 16:58:49 -0500 (CDT) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:58:00 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alternate APRS frequency? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/7/00 3:34:25 PM Mountain Daylight Time, dzobel1@rochester.rr.com writes: << What is your dogs call, K9DOG? >> LOL this is funny. Some of the best HAM stuff yet. Good thing he is not a pig. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 17:03:42 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA09918 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:03:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alternate APRS frequency? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:55:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001701c000ba$37c135a0$0593a8c0@todd2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Careful, K9DOG is a real ham, doggone it! Look it up if you don't believe it. I have clients (I'm a comms consultant) looking into vehicle location services for those wanting to know where their vehicle is located, ie. where your teenage daughter has driven the family car. The biggest problem with using APRS for this type of work is that if you aren't there and she doesn't have a ham license, Riley might pull her over and give her another kind of traffic ticket. Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: David Zobel To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 5:29 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alternate APRS frequency? > What is your dogs call, K9DOG? Sounds like a neat idea. We threaten to get > a GPS for our teenage daughter before she gets her drivers license. She has > no sense of direction. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Peter Anderson > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:03 PM > Subject: [htaprs] Alternate APRS frequency? > > > > Hi all, > > > > I am looking for an alternate APRS frequency for use in the mountains to > > track my dog (that's right, track my dog) I am experimenting with a doggy > > pack that has the TH-D7A, and a GPS. (no Palm Pilot as she can't read the > > darn thing anyways) But don't want to disturb others that are running > APRS > > as the real thing either. Is there an alternate frequency that is > > recommended for this? > > > > Peter Anderson > > Qwest Choice TV > > Center Partners Inc > > Ext: 6401 > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: dzobel1@rochester.rr.com > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tellis6@bellsouth.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 17:10:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA11075 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:10:02 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 17:06:34 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood TH-D7 upgrade Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000807163251.00b05d10@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Several people have posted that they have not been happy with the turnaround times provided by Kenwood for their firmware upgrades. Here's my story: July 17, 2000 - sent my TH-D7 to Kenwood Service Center West via USPS Priority Mail, insured, return receipt requested. I gave them written permission to bill my Visa Credit Card for the upgrade and return shipping as well as my home phone number, return address, and email address. I have an answering machine on my phone turned on 24 hours a day, as I work a differential shift. July 20, 2000 - Radio recieved and signed for by Kenwood - The person who received it for Kenwood both printed and signed their name totally illegibly. Nice for them to make sure it can never be traced to an employee... Unless they really have an employee who is named Marug Agegipitz. July 30, 2000 - Having not heard from Kenwood I emailed them for status on my radio. July 31, 2000 - Received a reply from Kenwood saying that I'd have to call them for status of my upgrade. From July 20 thru August 7, 2000 - I have never been contacted by Kenwood in any manner, despite the fact they have my home phone number, home address, and email address. August 7, 2000 - Due to several circumstances, including a death in the family, I was not able to call Kenwood until today. I was told my radio was received, and in their computer (home phone was correct). BUT THEN --- I was told they couldn't give me status on my radio over the phone. The woman hemmed and hawed for a while and said she'd have to call me back. She didn't sound like this was routine. As a matter of fact, she sounded nervous or distressed (I work for a service center, and I can pick up on that). So far, after an hour, no return call. THIS DOES NOT BODE WELL. 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 17:11:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA11401 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:11:07 -0500 (CDT) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 18:08:37 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alternate APRS frequency? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/7/00 2:06:19 PM Mountain Daylight Time, panderson@CenterPartners.com writes: << Is there an alternate frequency that is recommended for this? >> I was at an amateur club meeting Saturday and there was a presentation by a guy sending "high power" hobby rockets up with a GPS and transmitter. He said he was transmitting around 445 MHz but not with a D7A. For more information you might contact him at: Albuquerque Rocket Society 73-Ron-KD5HTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 17:51:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA19891 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:51:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [216.234.207.65] From: "Jim Morrison" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7G Positon Comment ? Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 22:50:57 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Aug 2000 22:50:58.0216 (UTC) FILETIME=[F39C2A80:01C000C1] List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just got my D7 back from KW west. In looking at the software, the radio and the manual, I find several new Position Comments: CUSTOM 0 thru 6. The manual has one small footnote about these saying they are "personal definition". Is there a way to program a text message in these or are they to be used by prior agreement with other stations (e.g.: 3 = at home, 5 = at the lake, and so on)? Just curious if anyone has found a way to program anything other than the canned messages in the Position Comments???? BTW, I sent my D7 in, waited a week after it got there and called last Wednesday. The lady had to call me back (in about 15 minutes). She said they were working on it that day and it would go out that afternoon. At my request, she sent me the UPS tracking number later that day and it finally made its way home today (Monday). I'm very happy with the service - they told me five to seven working days turnaround before I sent it in & they were right on the money. Jim KM5BS Hobbs, NM ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 19:41:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA11354 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:41:6 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7G Positon Comment ? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Jeffrey Brissette" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk As far as I know of the Custom 0 - Custom 6, display just that. I guess they mean that you have to know what you(or others) have decided Custom 0 - Custom 6 to mean. Still, it would have been nice to be able to put a real posit comment in. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 19:52:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA12450 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:52:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 17:51:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Brains for a D700? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Some list members have in the past posted shortcomings they have found with the D700s operation or programming. Others here have explored the serial port on the D700, and determined some commands to control it. I don't recall enough of the details of that to know if what I came up with is possible, so I thought I'd ask here. Is there enough control capability in the serial connection to make worthwhile an outboard D700 controller that would add some of the functions we'd like to see? Such a controller could be PIC or Stamp based, and do such things as automatically change the BCON rate when the ignition is on or off, or maybe even dynamically change the BCON rate as the vehicle speed changes. It could maybe change other parameters based on location, like the STATUS messgage or even what frequency is displayed in the B band. I think I recall that the D700 also streaming incoming packets or messages out the port. If so, the controller could respond to incoming messages, too. Is this possible? Any other cool ideas? I've done some Basic Stamp programming in the past (XRACS, the DTMF controlled synthesized voice response X10 controller http://www.tbo.net/html/xracs.htm, which brings up another question. In that project, I used a text to speech board to respond by voice to DTMF commands. Is the data coming out the D700 port in a form to be useful squirted through a board like that? Chris --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 21:04:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA23750 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:04:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Joel Black" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TH-D7 upgrade Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:04:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002e01c000dc$f3be1620$37a5fea9@jbblack> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mark, I hope your luck gets better. I recently purchased a D7A(G) and had to send it back for repair - I got stung by a wasp and fell on the radio trying to avoid anymore dive-bombing raids on the back of my neck. It has been a month to the day today since they received the radio. I called the service center (East Coast) and gave them my claim number (doesn't appear from your posting that they sent you a post card with your radio's info) from my post card. The lady was helpful in stating that they're waiting for a back-ordered part. All of this was to tell you that they do indeed give you the status of your equipment - someone has apparently misinformed you. GL es 73, Joel, K2SAT ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Fellhauer To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood TH-D7 upgrade > > August 7, 2000 - Due to several circumstances, including a death in the > family, I was not able to call Kenwood until today. I was told my radio > was received, and in their computer (home phone was correct). BUT THEN > --- I was told they couldn't give me status on my radio over the > phone. The woman hemmed and hawed for a while and said she'd have to call > me back. She didn't sound like this was routine. As a matter of fact, she > sounded nervous or distressed (I work for a service center, and I can pick > up on that). So far, after an hour, no return call. > > > THIS DOES NOT BODE WELL. > > > 73, > > Mark > KC7BXS > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jbblack@mindspring.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 23:23:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA15387 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:23:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:23:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7G Positon Comment ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Jim Morrison wrote: > the manual, I find several new Position Comments: CUSTOM 0 thru 6. The > manual has one small footnote about these saying they are "personal > definition". Is there a way to program a text message in these or are they > to be used by prior agreement with other stations (e.g.: 3 = at home, 5 = at > the lake, and so on)? THats all. Remember, they are only a single bit in the actual packet, so the definition of what they men is up to you. The original Mic-E messages were pre-defined, but user feedback wanted some new custom ones that they could define. As you can imagine, if any software allows anyone to define them at will, then there will ALWAYS be missinterpretations as your definition might not match mine. Thus, in SOFTWARE we are resisting ANY effort to assign permanent meanings. THus, YOU and ONLY YOUR INTENDED RECEIPENT must decide beforehand what the TWO OF YOU want it to mean. Then and only then can they be used without ambiguity... I hope this helps... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 7 23:29:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA16368 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 23:29:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 00:29:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7G Positon Comment ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Jeffrey Brissette wrote: > As far as I know of the Custom 0 - Custom 6, display just that. I guess > they mean that you have to know what you(or others) have decided Custom 0 - > Custom 6 to mean. Still, it would have been nice to be able to put a real > posit comment in. Thats what the STATUS text is. 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------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C000CD.31C28060-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 8 06:29:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA13906 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 06:29:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 06:28:47 -0500 From: "Ronald G. Parsons" Organization: W5RKN X-Accept-Language: en,Arabic MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] AUTOMATIC POWER OFF - D700 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <398FEEEF.76BCD091@amsat.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The AUTOMATIC POWER OFF function does not seem to function properly when the D700 has one band in APRS mode and beaconing or digipeating. The manual says: AUTOMATIC POWER OFF (APO) Automatic Power Off is a background function that monitors whether any buttons or keys have been pressed, or whether the Tuning control has been turned. After 3 hours pass with no operations, APO turns OFF the power. However, 1 minute before the power turns OFF, “APO” appears and blinks, and a series of warning tones sound. However, my unit does not shut off even though no buttons are pressed. Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? Ron W5RKN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 8 09:01:35 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA01446 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 09:01:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 09:01:06 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: AUTOMATIC POWER OFF - D700 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by elmls01.ce.mediaone.net id JAA00464 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <399012A2.ABA6EB13@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id JAA01446 "Ronald G. Parsons" wrote: > > The AUTOMATIC POWER OFF function does not seem to function properly when > the D700 has one band in APRS mode and beaconing or digipeating. The > manual says: > > AUTOMATIC POWER OFF (APO) > Automatic Power Off is a background function that > monitors whether any buttons or keys have been > pressed, or whether the Tuning control has been turned. > After 3 hours pass with no operations, APO turns OFF > the power. However, 1 minute before the power turns > OFF, “APO” appears and blinks, and a series of warning > tones sound. > > However, my unit does not shut off even though no buttons are pressed. > > Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? > > Ron W5RKN > > --- APO only works if no buttons are pushed by you, OR NO signals heard on either band for the alloted time specified in APO... As soon as a signal breaks squelch, the APO function is reset.. Good luck Robbie -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 8 11:21:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA21066 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:21:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:20:54 Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7G Positon Comment ? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Jeffrey Brissette" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Thanks for the information. I sometimes forget that the D7/D700 puts things in MIC-E format. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 8 13:43:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA13522 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:43:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2000 14:42:51 -0400 From: "Charles H. Rahe, II" X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D700 Clock Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------65EE52840961A1531BE9BBDB" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <399054AB.612A0848@lancnews.infi.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------65EE52840961A1531BE9BBDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone else experienced weird jumps in the hour of the D700's internal clock? I set it either via the GPS or manually and when I look later the hour is way off time. Sometimes it's even over 23 and as high as 38. Every thing else seems to function properly. Is there an internal battery for the clock that may be dead? This is my second D700 and I just bought it the end of June. 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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:42:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001b01c0019a$b92d02a0$f573c6d1@Phmose> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Those special custom 1 through custom 6 bytes could cause a very smart SATGATE to foreward the downlinked position to one of seven predefined email addresses. This is what ORBCOMM does and a PIC or Basic stamp controller or other program at the SATGATE could search for them in the data stream. and add the addresses. This ties in with the ongoing discussion of uses for these bytes. 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------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C00171.A82800A0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 9 12:23:41 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA22370 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:23:40 -0500 (CDT) From: ka7yak@attglobal.net Message-ID: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Shopping for GPS Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:19:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C001E2.F7129240" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001301c0021d$a4d985c0$e3dd6420@ev6ig> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C001E2.F7129240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm new at this. Am looking at two Garmin GPS models for use with the = TH-D7A, the E-Map and the III Plus. I would like some advice on which = one or others best suited for APRS. (I just sent my D7-A just sent it = in to be "G"d, I hope i didnt make a mistake by sending it West). Any = and all APRS elmer help would be appreciated. 73. Rob KA7YAK. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C001E2.F7129240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm new at this.  Am looking at = two Garmin GPS=20 models for use with the TH-D7A, the E-Map and the III Plus.  I = would like=20 some advice on which one or others best suited for APRS.  (I = just sent=20 my D7-A just sent it in to be "G"d, I hope i didnt make a mistake by = sending it=20 West).  Any and all APRS elmer help would be appreciated. 73. Rob=20 KA7YAK.
------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C001E2.F7129240-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 9 13:49:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA17254 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 13:49:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:39:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Shopping for GPS Reply-to: furlan@gmx.net CC: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Message-ID: Priority: normal In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3991C191.11737.2CE043C@localhost> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk hi, I had the same question 2 weeks ago and got many helpful mails from the list. I decided to order the GPS 3+, but read the postings I got. I send you all mails so you can see what are the arguments 73! Werner OE9FWV Am 9 Aug 2000, um 9:19, schrieb ka7yak@attglobal.net ueber "[htaprs] Shopping for GPS": > I'm new at this. Am looking at two Garmin GPS models for use with the > TH-D7A, the E-Map and the III Plus. I would like some advice on which > one or others best suited for APRS. (I just sent my D7-A just sent it > in to be "G"d, I hope i didnt make a mistake by sending it West). Any > and all APRS elmer help would be appreciated. 73. Rob KA7YAK. > -- Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at http://www.pmail.com Homepage: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 9 14:29:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA27393 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:29:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 14:29:25 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Shopping for GPS Cc: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000809133603.00b113c0@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 11:19 AM 8/9/00, ka7yak@attglobal.net wrote: >I'm new at this. Am looking at two Garmin GPS models for use with the >TH-D7A, the E-Map and the III Plus. I would like some advice on which one >or others best suited for APRS. (I just sent my D7-A just sent it in to >be "G"d, I hope i didnt make a mistake by sending it West). Any and all >APRS elmer help would be appreciated. 73. Rob KA7YAK. The eMap has turned into a fine GPS and is probably about the cheapest mapping GPS you'll find. BTW, I'm told a new revision of the firmware 2.52 is set to be released. This should fix some of the problems the eMap has setting up a track during slow speeds (like as in hiking). The best deal I've found online is Softwarebuyline.com. The eMap Deluxe (includes PC cable and 8 meg data cart) is $226.00 http://www.softwarebuyline.com/ I got mine at Reed's Sporting Goods in Walker, MN. A really cool place to shop if you ever find yourself in Walker. Their online price is $299 for the eMap Deluxe, but they cut me a smokin' deal and I paid about the same as the softwarebuyline price. But it cost my friend Steve (KB0WSV) his hunting cap (a long story). http://www.reedssports.com I like the form factor and the eMap better. Plus the eMap Deluxe street price is $50 to $60 dollars less than the III+. Here's where the eMap beats the III+: 1) Uses only 2 AA cells, so it's lighter 2) More routes and waypoints per route (50/50 vs 20/30) 3) Display slightly larger with better resolution 4) More tracklog points (2000 vs 1900) 5) Audiable Alarms 6) Waypoints store altitude info The only advantages I see to the IIi+ is that it runs on a wider voltage range and has a better water resistance rating. 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 9 14:42:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA00497 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 14:42:37 -0500 (CDT) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:40:45 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Shopping for GPS (Mark) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <44.630efc6.26c30dbd@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/9/00 1:32:33 PM Mountain Daylight Time, sparkfel@primenet.com writes: << 1) Uses only 2 AA cells, so it's lighter 2) More routes and waypoints per route (50/50 vs 20/30) 3) Display slightly larger with better resolution 4) More tracklog points (2000 vs 1900) 5) Audiable Alarms 6) Waypoints store altitude info >> Hi Mark, is there software with it that allows you to upload and download waypoints, modify them off line? Whats the deal on maps? All US? any Canada? 73- Ron - KD5HTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 9 15:11:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA06503 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:11:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "stridr" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] test - is this list down? Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 16:11:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0152_01C0021C.6C179AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <015501c0023d$f35b9560$9042bc18@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C0021C.6C179AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Or just inactive? ----------------------------- Help eradicate Pediatric Brain Tumors Support our ride 20 Aug 2000 http://go.to/nerfk Howard Hecht W1HO P.O. 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Howard Hecht   W1HO
P.O. = Box 3483=20 Milford, CT 06460-0943
 
Co-Task Force Leader New England Ride = for=20 Kids
------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C0021C.6C179AC0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 9 20:36:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA01777 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:36:20 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kc5ejk@mailhost.onramp.net Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:38:17 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC and the list List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Lots of HTML in the different TAPR list's these days. HTML is hard to read on my palm when I check my mail and it never works in the TAPR digest mode. Most other computer mail list will convert or bounce it back with a note to the sender. even when using the new Eudora that does display HTML people keep using 9 point type - requiring another step to read the mail. if the list mom could help let us know if the rules about attached files and HTML have changed. 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 00:08:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA04668 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:08:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 00:09:17 -0500 From: Tim Grooms X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood TH-D7A(G) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39938A7D.A811058C@gocomputers.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just rec'd my license and am saving for a D7A. Can anyone tell me the best place to purchase from? There are no local dealers in my area. Thanks for any help! 73 Tim KD5LEZ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 14:43:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA00965 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:43:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Mike Edwards" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7A Battery Pack terminals Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:44:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001501c003cc$8cf43440$6003d0d1@mike> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Would someone explain to me what the "T" terminal is on the back of the PB-39 pack? Between - and T i measure zero, between - and + I measure 9.72v (of course), and between T and + i measure the same. I measure 8k ohms between - and T with the DVOM. But I still have no clue what it is :-) Mike KE4YGT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 15:39:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA09596 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:39:31 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:36:26 -0600 From: Brian Badger Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7A Battery Pack terminals Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <399463CA.D994F4F0@wcom.com> Precedence: bulk Mike, I always assumed it was a thermistor to detect and avoid overheating during rapid charge. I have no evidence to support this, though. -- Brian KC0HIR Mike Edwards wrote: > Would someone explain to me what the "T" terminal is on the back of the > PB-39 pack? Between - and T i measure zero, between - and + I measure 9.72v > (of course), and between T and + i measure the same. I measure 8k ohms > between - and T with the DVOM. > > But I still have no clue what it is :-) > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 15:46:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA10529 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:46:43 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:46:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7A Battery Pack terminals In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Brian Badger wrote: > I always assumed it was a thermistor to detect and avoid overheating during > rapid charge. I have no evidence to support this, though. Try putting it in the refrigerator for a couple of minutes and measuring the terminals again. Don't freeze your battery though! > Brian KC0HIR > Mike Edwards wrote: > > > Would someone explain to me what the "T" terminal is on the back of the > > PB-39 pack? Between - and T i measure zero, between - and + I measure 9.72v > > (of course), and between T and + i measure the same. I measure 8k ohms > > between - and T with the DVOM. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 17:18:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA29529 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:18:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Hmm Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:11:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C003BF.84E34E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002601c003e1$11e32e40$0593a8c0@todd2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C003BF.84E34E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A question for the group...I have a D700, and was setting up a second = mobile station using an ADI mobile with a Kantronics 9612 Plus TNC. I = set it up per the Kantronics book (darn big one, bigger than the = product!). However, when it beacons, I see two question mark signs = ("??") on my D700 and the second unit does not show up when I press the = LIST button on the D700. I have seen other trackers in my area display = the same "??" and also do not show up on the list. What have I not set = on the Kantronics unit? Am I missing something? Please let me know if = you have any insight! BTW, the use for this box is for my wife who is also licensed. I just = bought her another car and plan to utilize APRS with her call on the TNC = for the security system concept. Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C003BF.84E34E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A question for the group...I have = a D700, and=20 was setting up a second mobile station using an ADI mobile with a = Kantronics=20 9612 Plus TNC.  I set it up per the Kantronics book (darn big one, = bigger=20 than the product!).  However, when it beacons, I see two question = mark=20 signs ("??") on my D700 and the second unit does not show up when I = press=20 the LIST button on the D700.  I have seen other trackers in my = area=20 display the same "??" and also do not show up on the list.  What = have I not=20 set on the Kantronics unit?  Am I missing something?  Please = let me=20 know if you have any insight!
 
BTW, the use for this box is for my = wife who is=20 also licensed.  I just bought her another car and plan to = utilize APRS=20 with her call on the TNC for the security system = concept.
 
Todd Ellis, N2XL
Raleigh, NC
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C003BF.84E34E60-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 17:36:41 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA02596 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:36:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: wa6ylb@mail.theworks.com Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:34:17 -0700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Byron Smith Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hmm Cc: htaprs@tapr.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000811152742.01b892d0@mail.theworks.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > However, when it beacons, I see two question mark signs ("??") on my D700 --- This means its a packet that the D700 doesnt know how to decode. Remote Wx stns (using Peet $ULTW) do this also. Its a shame that the software in the D700 doesnt decode whats actually seen over the air in hundreds of operational areas. I would have thought that since all versions of APRS (like Winaprs, MacAPRS, APRSdos, and APRSsa) can decode the stuff seen over the air, a D700 could too. I am disappointed in how many packets are not decoded by the D700. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 20:43:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA28400 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 20:43:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Mike Edwards" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] D7A Pack T terminal - Temp sense? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 21:43:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001501c003fe$c793c2a0$bd03d0d1@mike> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Okay, earlier I measured the following: - to + , 9.72v T to +, 9.72v - to T, 0.00v, 8.02Kohm After being in the fridge a while.... - to +, 6v and climbing (warming up to room temp) T to +, 6.35v and climbing ( "" "") - to T, 0v, 10.85Kohm and _falling_.. Which would make sense if it's a temp sensor. Issue settled? I'm satisfied :-) Mike KE4YGT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 11 22:50:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA15842 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 22:50:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:49:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hmm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If you want to see the raw WX stns on your mobiles, you can have someone in the area run APRSdata.exe and enable WX-RAW-CONVERT. It will take the RAW WX reports and convert them to APRS standard format and retransmit them. This does double up on the number of WX packets on the air, so will probably only be good to do in sparse areas where the extra load will not be noticed.. On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Byron Smith wrote: > Remote Wx stns (using Peet $ULTW) do this also. Its a shame that the > software in the D700 doesnt decode whats actually seen over the air in > hundreds of operational areas. I would have thought that since all > versions of APRS (like Winaprs, MacAPRS, APRSdos, and APRSsa) can > decode the stuff seen over the air, a D700 could too. I am disappointed > in how many packets are not decoded by the D700. Ah, but they are big programs. APRSdos is over 10,000 lines of code. They couldnt put all of that in an HT... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 12 02:26:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA12623 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 02:26:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Karl G6ODT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D700 and Packet Speed Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 07:41:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000201c0042e$8920aa80$224b063e@amd450> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, Is it just me or is the Packet baud rate (not APRS) global without a menu option to change it from the radio ? It appears that you cannot have one PM configured for 1200 baud in Packet mode and another set for 9600 baud in Packet mode. Further more I cannot find a menu option in the radio that will change the baud rate. There are menus to change the APRS baud rate and a further menu to change the setting for the external data connector socket but not for the packet mode. The only way I can see of doing it is to put the radio into command mode sending CTRL 3 and then send HB1200 or HB9600. Shame that the setting is global eg applies to ALL PM. Anybody found another way using the radio to change the setting ? 73 Karl G6ODT Email g6odt@yahoo.com http://members.tripod.com/~g6odt/packet.html 24h Relay/Wide .Tracen-n Enabled. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 12 03:47:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA29553 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 03:47:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hmm Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:39:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003901c00438$dde620e0$0593a8c0@todd2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good answer! Well, I used the BLT command just like the book said. One other respondant (Tom Shaefer) suggested that I turn off the HID parameter. I'll try both of these later today and see what helps! Thanks. Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Jones" To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [htaprs] Hmm > > You specifically said that it shows ?? when the TNC beacons. Do you > literally mean 'beacon'? if so, the DH7, D700 do not understand beacons, > therefore you get ??. They only interpret APRS formatted UI packets and > DX-Spot connected or unconnected packets. All other packets will be > displayed with ??. Also, packets which are incompletely decoded will be > displayed with ??. > > Some other pieces of info that you might have missed with regard to using > the 9612 as a dumb tracker... > > Make sure that you turn on the software carrier detect. > Be sure to set 'oneradio' on (unless of course you are running 2 radios.) > On all the commands that have a split option for each port, be sure to > disable the options on the 9600 port. > i.e. BLT 1 Every 00:05:00 / Every 00:00:00 > > Good Luck, > Mike > KF6SWI > > >From: "Todd Ellis" > >Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" > >To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" > >Subject: [htaprs] Hmm > >Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:11:06 -0400 > > > >A question for the group...I have a D700, and was setting up a second > >mobile station using an ADI mobile with a Kantronics 9612 Plus TNC. I set > >it up per the Kantronics book (darn big one, bigger than the product!). > >However, when it beacons, I see two question mark signs ("??") on my D700 > >and the second unit does not show up when I press the LIST button on the > >D700. I have seen other trackers in my area display the same "??" and also > >do not show up on the list. What have I not set on the Kantronics unit? > >Am I missing something? Please let me know if you have any insight! > > > >BTW, the use for this box is for my wife who is also licensed. I just > >bought her another car and plan to utilize APRS with her call on the TNC > >for the security system concept. > > > >Todd Ellis, N2XL > >Raleigh, NC > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 12 15:06:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24246 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:06:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "hasan schiers" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Shopping for GPS Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 15:05:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004601c00498$abfd05c0$0300000a@netins.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Two Questions: What kind of power connector does it use? (I'm assuming it is NOT the same as on the GPS II+ and other Garmins). (And if not, where would you get the appropriate power/data cables). What kind of data i/o connector does it require? I'm assuming it will plot callsigns as waypoints from the D7A(g) and D700A? Looks interesting as an eventual replacement for my older firmware II+. Does it have a larger display than the II+ ? (I know...that's 3 questions).. tnx hasan schiers schiers@netins.net N0AN hasan schiers schiers@netins.net N0AN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Fellhauer" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 2:29 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Shopping for GPS > At 11:19 AM 8/9/00, ka7yak@attglobal.net wrote: > > >I'm new at this. Am looking at two Garmin GPS models for use with the > >TH-D7A, the E-Map and the III Plus. I would like some advice on which one > >or others best suited for APRS. (I just sent my D7-A just sent it in to > >be "G"d, I hope i didnt make a mistake by sending it West). Any and all > >APRS elmer help would be appreciated. 73. Rob KA7YAK. > > > The eMap has turned into a fine GPS and is probably about the cheapest > mapping GPS you'll find. BTW, I'm told a new revision of the firmware 2.52 > is set to be released. This should fix some of the problems the eMap has > setting up a track during slow speeds (like as in hiking). > > The best deal I've found online is Softwarebuyline.com. The eMap Deluxe > (includes PC cable and 8 meg data cart) is $226.00 > > http://www.softwarebuyline.com/ > > > I got mine at Reed's Sporting Goods in Walker, MN. A really cool place to > shop if you ever find yourself in Walker. Their online price is $299 for > the eMap Deluxe, but they cut me a smokin' deal and I paid about the same > as the softwarebuyline price. But it cost my friend Steve (KB0WSV) his > hunting cap (a long story). > > http://www.reedssports.com > > > I like the form factor and the eMap better. Plus the eMap Deluxe street > price is $50 to $60 dollars less than the III+. > > Here's where the eMap beats the III+: > > 1) Uses only 2 AA cells, so it's lighter > 2) More routes and waypoints per route (50/50 vs 20/30) > 3) Display slightly larger with better resolution > 4) More tracklog points (2000 vs 1900) > 5) Audiable Alarms > 6) Waypoints store altitude info > > The only advantages I see to the IIi+ is that it runs on a wider voltage > range and has a better water resistance rating. > > 73, > > Mark > KC7BXS > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: SCHIERS@NETINS.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 12 18:38:42 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA22009 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:38:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] what in the world am I doing wrong? Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:29:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C00493.B3231BA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001001c004b5$3eca2240$0593a8c0@todd2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C00493.B3231BA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Group: I am still trying to set up a Kantronics 9612 Plus to operate in APRS = mode with just a GPS connected to it. The BLT packets are not being = decoded by my D700 nor APRS+SA connected to the I-net, but I do see = status reports. I see others with my D700 having the same problems with = the "??" decode issue. What in the world could I be doing wrong?? = There are very few paramters to set up; I must be missing several items = needed to make this work. Drop me a line if you have indeed gotten a TNC and a GPS alone to work = with this mode. Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC tellis6@bellsouth.net ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C00493.B3231BA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Group:
 
I am still trying to set up a = Kantronics 9612 Plus=20 to operate in APRS mode with just a GPS connected to it.  The BLT = packets=20 are not being decoded by my D700 nor APRS+SA connected to the I-net, but = I do=20 see status reports.  I see others with my D700 having the same = problems=20 with the "??" decode issue.  What in the world could I be doing=20 wrong??  There are very few paramters to set up; I must be missing = several=20 items needed to make this work.
 
Drop me a line if you have indeed = gotten a TNC and=20 a GPS alone to work with this mode.
 
Todd Ellis, N2XL
Raleigh, NC
tellis6@bellsouth.net
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C00493.B3231BA0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 12 18:49:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA24926 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:49:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tom Schaefer" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:03:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01C00619.F46E43F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003301c0064c$3fda0db0$0a01a8c0@sc003367> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C00619.F46E43F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One thing you can do is select the P.MON mode of the radio and see what = it is receiving from the other TNC. Personally, I would not worry about this much as the D700 is going to = receive ?? from certain packets. it is just a fact of the radio's life. = I do not find it a problem because it decodes everything it is supposed = to decode for APRS. Tom NY4I ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Ellis=20 To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS=20 Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 5:29 PM Subject: [htaprs] what in the world am I doing wrong? Group: =20 I am still trying to set up a Kantronics 9612 Plus to operate in APRS = mode with just a GPS connected to it. The BLT packets are not being = decoded by my D700 nor APRS+SA connected to the I-net, but I do see = status reports. I see others with my D700 having the same problems with = the "??" decode issue. What in the world could I be doing wrong?? = There are very few paramters to set up; I must be missing several items = needed to make this work. =20 Drop me a line if you have indeed gotten a TNC and a GPS alone to work = with this mode. =20 Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC tellis6@bellsouth.net ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C00619.F46E43F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One thing you can do is select the = P.MON mode of=20 the radio and see what it is receiving from the other TNC.
 
Personally, I would not worry about = this much as=20 the D700 is going to receive ?? from certain packets. it is just a fact = of the=20 radio's life. I do not find it a problem because it decodes everything = it is=20 supposed to decode for APRS.
 
Tom NY4I
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Todd=20 Ellis
To: TAPR Hot=20 Technology APRS
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 = 5:29=20 PM
Subject: [htaprs] what in the = world am I=20 doing wrong?

Group:
 
I am still trying to set up a = Kantronics 9612=20 Plus to operate in APRS mode with just a GPS connected to it.  = The BLT=20 packets are not being decoded by my D700 nor APRS+SA connected to the = I-net,=20 but I do see status reports.  I see others with my D700 having = the same=20 problems with the "??" decode issue.  What in the world could I = be doing=20 wrong??  There are very few paramters to set up; I must be = missing=20 several items needed to make this work.
 
Drop me a line if you have indeed = gotten a TNC=20 and a GPS alone to work with this mode.
 
Todd Ellis, N2XL
Raleigh, NC
tellis6@bellsouth.net
------=_NextPart_000_0030_01C00619.F46E43F0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 13 17:58:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA00119 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:58:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH D 7G and winaprs Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 16:00:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001701c0057a$57eef140$35ba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk i have been unable to make my icon pop up on winaprs. the data stream looks like this with no gps kd8s-14+AD4-svrstp,relay,wide:'+-2j1lk+AFw-s there is no long lat string, manual put in my coords. tried full reset any ideas? is there something i have to set up in the packet mode related to aprs? 73 find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 13 18:06:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA01471 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:06:33 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:04:41 -0400 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Keith Sproul Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH D 7G and winaprs Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The data you list below shows '+' after the call sign.. I am used to '>' instead. This would make a BIG difference, and would explain why it is not working. I have a D7G and it works fine, and displays '>'. Please verify that this what is coming in, and contact me via phone.. 732-821-4828 Keith >i have been unable to make my icon pop up on winaprs. > >the data stream looks like this with no gps > > > > >kd8s-14+AD4-svrstp,relay,wide:'+-2j1lk+AFw-s > > > >there is no long lat string, manual put in my coords. > >tried full reset > > > >any ideas? is there something i have to set up in the packet mode related >to aprs? > > >73 >find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 >works only >if i am sending my position out and in satellite range > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: ksproul@vger.rutgers.edu >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org >Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org Keith Sproul 732 445-3695 Office Student Housing Network Coordinator 732 445-2968 Fax mailto:ksproul@rci.rutgers.edu 732 821-4828 Home http://dorm.rutgers.edu/~ksproul/ WU2Z --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 13 18:11:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA02691 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:11:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:11:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Sproul To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: Keith Sproul Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood D-700 APRS Speech Contest (deadline extended) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The deadline is September 18th. Please send in your entries. =================================================================== ==== Kenwood D700 APRS(tm) Speech Message Contest ==== =================================================================== The Kenwood TM-D700 Radio has the ability to have a speech synthesizer added to it. If you add this option, you can make the D700 'SPEAK' or actually 'SPELL' APRS messages. When you send a message to a D700 with the VS-3 Speech chip, it will SPELL the call sign of the station that sent the message. In addition to this, if you put a percent sign '%' as the FIRST character of a message, it will SPELL the letters and numbers of the message. For example, if I send the following message from WU2Z to WB4APR, %ICU2 Bob will hear: DOUBLE-YOU YOU TWO ZED I SEE YOU TOO We are announcing a contest to see what kind of messages people can come up with for using this neat feature of the Kenwood TM-D700 radio and the VS-3. =================================================================== Rules for the contest: * There will be three categories: The LONGEST message that makes sense. The MOST TECHNICAL message. The most original or funniest message. * The winners will be announced at the ARRL Digital Communications Conference in Orlando, FL, September 23, 2000. * Each winner will receive a $50 gift certificate from Kenwood Radio. * APRS Authors and Kenwood employees are not eligible. * The judges will be the APRS Authors and Kenwood personnel that are present at the September 2000, ARRL DCC in Orlando, FL. * All decisions of the judges will be final. * All entries must be sent by email ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu by September 18th, or delivered in person at the DCC. * PLEASE put D700 CONTEST as the subject of the email!!! * You must have a valid Amateur Radio License to enter. * You do NOT need to own a Kenwood D700 or VS-3 to enter. * You do NOT need to be a registered user of any version of APRS to enter. * You do NOT need to be present at the ARRL DCC to win. * In case of a tie, i.e. exact or very similar duplicate message the earliest received entry will win. * In case of other ties, the judges opinions will determine the winner. * All entries can be used by Kenwood and/or the APRS authors for demo and/or advertising purposes. All entries will be posted on the Web after the contest, with your call sign to give you credit. * Entries that imply profanity or inappropriate content will be ignored. =================================================================== The documentation for the Speech functions of the D700 are at: http://aprs.rutgers.edu/D700Voice.html There is also a copy of it at: http://dorm.rutgers.edu/~ksproul/D700Voice.html (If one is down, try the other, I will keep them both updated) If you have questions about this contest, or how the Voice option works, please send email to me at: ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu As questions come in, I will update the documentation if needed. You may distribute this announcement to other places, but you must leave it exactly as is. -- Keith Sproul Ham Radio: WU2Z WinAPRS/MacAPRS/X-APRS Author http://dorm.rutgers.edu/~ksproul/ mailto://ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 13 19:01:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA10534 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:01:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] thd7g and winaprs Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:02:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003401c00582$f987fc60$35ba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk off the history list here is what i get out of my thd-7g no gps manual long and lat....i found my self on the map somewhere out in the atlantic....my long and lat are entered correct kd8s-14+AD4-3vpyts,relay,wide:'+ACo-a+ACY-lm+AFw- it never spits out long and lat it worked fine before the upgrade find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 13 19:40:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA15816 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 19:40:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] THD7-G winaprs w/gps Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 17:42:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004001c00588$88fc4860$35ba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk just got my gps feeding the thd7. even with good rmc still does not spit out my position.... i am going to guess i need to get into the packet mode and check some of the settings. i can compare the old settings that i printed out last year and make sure they are the same. anyone else have a problem with the thd-7 g not working with winaprs after the upgrade? what did you do to fix it? 73 steve las vegas find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 06:06:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA14965 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:06:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: <4.2.0.58.20000813182043.016904a0@mail.theworks.com> Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 06:57:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C005BC.EDCB7B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003301c005de$a8bfe200$0593a8c0@todd2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C005BC.EDCB7B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Byron and others who answered my call for help last week: After wasting 3/4ths of Sunday working on this problem, I have found = some interesting issues. First, if you set up the KPC9612+ to only = beacon, it will be successfully decoded by the D700 and also show up on = APRS+SA (my two test setups). This is where the fun departs... If you are also trying to get the lat/long GPS data to be filtered into = the LT text position, it does not parse the location information in a = way that APRS+SA nor the D700 like to see, and thus I get the dang "??" = message again on the D700, and nothing at all on the APRS+SA! If you = look at the outbound data packet for $GPGGA or $GPRMS with this unit, = you will see each data component being comma delimited. If you look at = any other location info from APRS+SA or the D700 or other stuff too, the = lat/long is not only formatted differently (3354.76 versus 33, 54, 76), = it also has a slash "/" between the lat and the long. I was really = ready to beat my already flat head onto a hard surface when I realized = nothing squirting out of the 9612 was going to work. Oh, and BTW, the = Xmit light on the second port turns on and stays on after the very first = location report. I am calling Kantronics today to verify this stuff, = and why I can't seem to get this unit to work less a computer. There = HAS to be a good answer. I'm sure this is a case of calling the kettle black, but as a consultant = working on various mobile data systems for clients all over the country, = this system (APRS/AX.25) seems far too complicated to get working for a = newbie (Bob B is making a dartboard from my picture on QRZ.com right = now). In fact, I found two web pages from two sites that had two very = different suggested setup parameters for the TNC. I ended up using both = and throwing out what I figured wasn't usable as I went along. Maybe = this is why there is a hesitancy for folks to get involved with APRS, = and why of the VERY few trackers in the Raleigh, NC area are all D700s = or D7s. The rest are fixed stations using APRSdos or WinAPRS or = APRS+SA! Johnny-come-lately and all (I started working qith APRS in = January of this year), I have to believe that all the other stations (I = counted over 10 locals yesterday alone) I see with "??" coming up on my = display are having the same kinds of problems and are chaulking it all = up to "I probably don't know what I'm doing, this is as good as I'm = going to get it". My third APRS project is about to fold in disaster, = and for the amount of money invested, I could have bought another D700! = This truely isn't rocket science unless you count the 9612 I almost = threw into a ballistic arc, but we collectively seem to be trying to = make it be that way; I have had only a couple of responses from posts = for help. =20 Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: A fellow APRSer To: Todd Ellis=20 Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:22 PM Subject: Re: [htaprs] what in the world am I doing wrong? At 07:29 PM 08/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: Group: =20 I am still trying to set up a Kantronics 9612 Plus to operate in = APRS mode with just a GPS connected to it. The BLT packets are not = being decoded by my D700 The D700 doenst know how to decode a stand alone tracker. This is a = short comming of advice from a certain APRS author to the fellow writing = the code for D700. Grrr! Name withheld to protect the innocent "Cain't we all just get a lawn?" ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C005BC.EDCB7B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Byron and others who answered my call = for help last=20 week:
 
After wasting 3/4ths of Sunday working = on this=20 problem, I have found some interesting issues.  First, if you set = up the=20 KPC9612+ to only beacon, it will be successfully decoded by the D700 and = also=20 show up on APRS+SA (my two test setups).  This is where the = fun=20 departs...
 
If you are also trying to get the = lat/long GPS=20 data to be filtered into the LT text position, it does not parse the = location=20 information in a way that APRS+SA nor the D700 like to see, and = thus I get=20 the dang "??" message again on the D700, and nothing at all on the=20 APRS+SA!  If you look at the outbound data packet for $GPGGA = or $GPRMS=20 with this unit, you will see each data component being comma=20 delimited.  If you look at any other location info = from APRS+SA or the=20 D700 or other stuff too, the lat/long is not only formatted differently = (3354.76=20 versus 33, 54, 76), it also has a slash "/" between the lat and the = long. =20 I was really ready to beat my already flat head onto a hard surface = when I=20 realized nothing squirting out of the 9612 was going to work.  = Oh, and=20 BTW, the Xmit light on the second port turns on and stays on after the = very=20 first location report.  I am calling Kantronics today to = verify this=20 stuff, and why I can't seem to get this unit to work less a = computer. =20 There HAS to be a good answer.
 
I'm sure this is a case of calling = the kettle=20 black, but as a consultant working on various mobile data = systems=20 for clients all over the country, this system = (APRS/AX.25) seems far=20 too complicated to get working for a newbie (Bob B is making a dartboard = from my=20 picture on QRZ.com right now).  In fact, I found two web pages from = two=20 sites that had two very different suggested setup parameters for the = TNC. =20 I ended up using both and throwing out what I figured wasn't usable as=20 I went along.  Maybe this is why there is=20 a hesitancy for folks to get involved with APRS, and = why of the=20 VERY few trackers in the Raleigh, NC area are all D700s or D7s.  = The rest=20 are fixed stations using APRSdos or WinAPRS or APRS+SA! =20 Johnny-come-lately and all (I started working qith=20 APRS in January of this year), I have to believe that all = the=20 other stations (I counted over 10 locals yesterday alone) I see = with "??"=20 coming up on my display are having the same kinds of problems and are=20 chaulking it all up to "I probably don't know what I'm doing, this = is as=20 good as I'm going to get it".  My third APRS project is about = to fold=20 in disaster, and for the amount of money invested, I could have bought = another=20 D700!  This truely isn't rocket science unless you count the 9612 I = almost=20 threw into a ballistic arc, but we collectively seem to be trying to = make it be=20 that way; I have had only a couple of responses from posts for=20 help.  
 
Todd Ellis, N2XL
Raleigh, NC 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 A fellow APRSer
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 = 9:22=20 PM
Subject: Re: [htaprs] what in = the world=20 am I doing wrong?

At 07:29 PM 08/12/2000 -0400, you wrote:
Group:
 
I am still trying to set up a Kantronics 9612 Plus to = operate in APRS=20 mode with just a GPS connected to it.  The BLT packets are not = being=20 decoded by my D700

The D700 doenst know how = to decode a=20 stand alone tracker. This is a short comming of advice from a certain = APRS=20 author to the fellow writing the code for D700. Grrr!


Name withheld to protect the innocent
"Cain't we all just get a=20 lawn?"
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C005BC.EDCB7B60-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 08:02:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA26261 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:02:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "hasan schiers" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7g and winaprs Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:01:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001701c005ef$cb7a81e0$2c178ea7@netins.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Make sure your tnc has the command to set MFILTER OFF...whatever it might be...I had mine set to +ACQ-80 from some other app and it caused the icons to not show up, only a red dot. ...hasan ----- Original Message ----- From: STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS +ADw-kd8s+AEA-skylink.net+AD4- To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS +ADw-htaprs+AEA-lists.tapr.org+AD4- Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 7:02 PM Subject: +AFs-htaprs+AF0- thd7g and winaprs +AD4- off the history list here is what i get out of my thd-7g +AD4- +AD4- no gps manual long and lat....i found my self on the map somewhere out in +AD4- the atlantic....my long and lat are entered correct +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- kd8s-14+AD4-3vpyts,relay,wide:'+ACo-a+ACY-lm+AFw- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- it never spits out long and lat +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- it worked fine before the upgrade +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only +AD4- if i am sending my position out and in satellite range +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- --- +AD4- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: SCHIERS+AEA-NETINS.NET +AD4- To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-3750M+AEA-lists.tapr.org +AD4- Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou+AEA-tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 08:35:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA28166 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:35:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:35:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tapr.org id IAA28166 All of this can be solved if you simply send us a copy of the packet that the TNC is generating and that is not showing on your system. Be happy to help then. But unless we can see the problem, we can't fix it. bob On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Todd Ellis wrote: > Byron and others who answered my call for help last week: > > After wasting 3/4ths of Sunday working on this problem, I have found some interesting issues. First, if you set up the KPC9612+ to only beacon, it will be successfully decoded by the D700 and also show up on APRS+SA (my two test setups). This is where the fun departs... > > If you are also trying to get the lat/long GPS data to be filtered into the LT text position, it does not parse the location information in a way that APRS+SA nor the D700 like to see, and thus I get the dang "??" message again on the D700, and nothing at all on the APRS+SA! If you look at the outbound data packet for $GPGGA or $GPRMS with this unit, you will see each data component being comma delimited. If you look at any other location info from APRS+SA or the D700 or other stuff too, the lat/long is not only formatted differently (3354.76 versus 33, 54, 76), it also has a slash "/" between the lat and the long. I was really ready to beat my already flat head onto a hard surface when I realized nothing squirting out of the 9612 was going to work. Oh, and BTW, the Xmit light on the second port turns on and stays on after the very first location report. I am calling Kantronics today to verify this stuff, and why I can't seem to get this unit to work less a computer. There HAS to be a good answer. > > I'm sure this is a case of calling the kettle black, but as a consultant working on various mobile data systems for clients all over the country, this system (APRS/AX.25) seems far too complicated to get working for a newbie (Bob B is making a dartboard from my picture on QRZ.com right now). In fact, I found two web pages from two sites that had two very different suggested setup parameters for the TNC. I ended up using both and throwing out what I figured wasn't usable as I went along. Maybe this is why there is a hesitancy for folks to get involved with APRS, and why of the VERY few trackers in the Raleigh, NC area are all D700s or D7s. The rest are fixed stations using APRSdos or WinAPRS or APRS+SA! Johnny-come-lately and all (I started working qith APRS in January of this year), I have to believe that all the other stations (I counted over 10 locals yesterday alone) I see with "??" coming up on my display are having the same kinds of problems and are chaulking it all up to "I probably don't know what I'm doing, this is as good as I'm going to get it". My third APRS project is about to fold in disaster, and for the amount of money invested, I could have bought another D700! This truely isn't rocket science unless you count the 9612 I almost threw into a ballistic arc, but we collectively seem to be trying to make it be that way; I have had only a couple of responses from posts for help. > > Todd Ellis, N2XL > Raleigh, NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A fellow APRSer > To: Todd Ellis > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [htaprs] what in the world am I doing wrong? > > > At 07:29 PM 08/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > Group: > > I am still trying to set up a Kantronics 9612 Plus to operate in APRS mode with just a GPS connected to it. The BLT packets are not being decoded by my D700 > > The D700 doenst know how to decode a stand alone tracker. This is a short comming of advice from a certain APRS author to the fellow writing the code for D700. Grrr! > > > > Name withheld to protect the innocent > "Cain't we all just get a lawn?" > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 08:51:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA00195 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 08:51:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 8:51:1 Subject: [htaprs] THD7 Upgrade, Hats off to Kenwood To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Fred Halley Jr." List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I sent my THD7 to Kenwood East for the "G" upgrade. They acknowledged receipt of the radio on 8/4/00. I had the radio back on 8/9/00 with the upgrade complete and working great. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 10:40:06 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA13857 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:40:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Bathgate, Ed" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:39:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <1DE644007776D3119FAC00204840ECF4015202F9@whq-msgusr-03.fore.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Gentlemen I had gotten accustomed to leaving my GPSIII + KPC-3 + Htx242 ht tracker on all the time when it was in my truck. I also used to leave my RatShack HTX-242 mobile turned on during the same length of time with no dead battys. Now that I have the D-700, I have run my battery down 2 times, to the point the truck would not start. Last week, I jumped it, and it was ok. This morning I had to put the charger on it. TMD-700 was left on since friday evening after work, saturday & sunday, & monday till 8am. Even the D700 shut down as did the gps. I suspect the batty voltage went below 9v or so to cause that. Has anybody else experienced this radio draining a vehicle battery after about 63 hours? I did not think this radio drew that much power, but evidently it does. Is there a way to reprogram the autopoweroff mode to ignore squelch openings and only respond to button presses? Otherwise, in APRS mode, it will never go to sleep. Ed N3SDO Ed Bathgate MFG Engineering Technician. Bldg 4. (724) 742-6575 Marconi --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 10:55:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA17216 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:55:30 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:55:12 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814104840.00b0d1d0@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Put a multimeter on the thing and see how much amperage is being drawn by the radio/GPS. Disconnect the radio and GPS and look for other phantom loads (you may have something drawing more power than it should). One you know how much power is being drawn from the battery with the truck off, it should give you an idea of how long it will take to drain that battery. Your battery may just be getting old and doesn't have the capacity it once had. 73, Mark KC7BXS At 10:39 AM 8/14/00, Bathgate, Ed wrote: >Has anybody else experienced this radio draining a vehicle battery after >about 63 hours? > >I --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 12:16:06 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA03610 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:16:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hmm Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 11:14:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01C005E0.CB5DA8E0.tarnerich@in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob Bruninga >On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Byron Smith wrote: >> Remote Wx stns (using Peet $ULTW) do this also. Its a shame that the >> software in the D700 doesnt decode whats actually seen over the air in >> hundreds of operational areas. I would have thought that since all >> versions of APRS (like Winaprs, MacAPRS, APRSdos, and APRSsa) can >> decode the stuff seen over the air, a D700 could too. I am disappointed >> in how many packets are not decoded by the D700. > >Ah, but they are big programs. APRSdos is over 10,000 lines of code. >They couldnt put all of that in an HT... FWIW, this is but a tiny fraction of what the HamHUD does, using only 8.4K of program+data space: . Display temperature and wind data from stations w/Davis and Ultimeter II weather units (incl. $ULTW & !! formats) It shouldn't be too difficult for Kenwood to incorporate weather packet parsing into their next firmware release. Bob, you might ask them if they can get themselves a better compiler. :-) 73, Tony KD7TA HamHUD info: http://www.c2-tech.com/~steveb/hamhud/, click on "User Manual" link. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 12:29:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA05763 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:29:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Bill Diaz Reply-To: "billdiaz@megsinet.net" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:28:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01C005EB.2A238C00.billdiaz@megsinet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ed, The amount of current consumed over 63 hours would be dependent on a number of factors. The radio can draw 11.5A or less at maximum power setting (50 watts on 2 meters) when transmitting. While receiving (at 2 W output) current drain is 1.0A or less. The dimmer setting will affect current consumption as well. Each time the radio keys, the fan runs for a period of time. Other factors : Packet transmit interval (0.2 to 30 Minutes) Status text transmit rate. Digipeating. Condition of battery and charging system. Battery Amp hour rating. If the D700 transmit interval is 1 minute, the unit will transmit a minimum of 3780 of location packets during a 63 hour period. If the D700 is set to to beacon status text every 3rd location then the total packets transmitted is 1260 + 3780 = 5040 packets. If the average transmission length is one second then the length of time the D700 transmitted is about 5040/60 or 84 minutes. The radio consumed approximately 16.1 ampere hours while transmitting. You must factor in the amount of current drawn by the fan, backlighting, receiver, and GPS. If you assumed that this amounts to about 0.75 amps/hour then an additional 47.5 ampere hours would be required during a 63 hour period. If the above assumptions are correct, your battery must supply 63.6 ampere hours over a 63 hour period. The location packets you transmitted during this interval were essentially identical. Not sure what benefit can be derived from continually transmitting static locations. I have never used the APO function since I always turn off the radio when the vehicle is to be parked for any length of time. The manual indicates that the APO function timer is reset when any buttons, keys have been pressed, or when the tuning control knob has been turned. It does not state that squelch openings will affect the APO timer. Bill KC9XG On Monday, August 14, 2000 10:40 AM, Bathgate, Ed [SMTP:Ed.Bathgate@marconi.com] wrote: > > > Gentlemen > > I had gotten accustomed to leaving my GPSIII + KPC-3 + Htx242 ht tracker on > all the time when it was in my truck. I also used to leave my RatShack > HTX-242 > mobile turned on during the same length of time with no dead battys. > > Now that I have the D-700, I have run my battery down 2 times, to the point > the truck would not start. Last week, I jumped it, and it was ok. This > morning I had to put the charger on it. TMD-700 was left on since friday > evening after work, saturday & sunday, & monday till 8am. Even the D700 > shut down as did the gps. I suspect the batty voltage went below 9v or so > to cause that. > > Has anybody else experienced this radio draining a vehicle battery after > about 63 hours? > > I did not think this radio drew that much power, but evidently it does. > > Is there a way to reprogram the autopoweroff mode to ignore squelch openings > and only respond to button presses? Otherwise, in APRS mode, it will never > go to sleep. > > Ed N3SDO > > Ed Bathgate > MFG Engineering Technician. > Bldg 4. (724) 742-6575 > Marconi > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BILLDIAZ@MEGSINET.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 12:38:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA07835 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:38:37 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:37:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <05f501c005f2$e88308e0$2e94b3d1@celeron> List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002c01c00616$451009a0$2302a8c0@boothassoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey Brent/Bob: I'm using a Garmin GPS12, and later I will transpose all of the parameters I have entered into the TNC. The Garmin is set up for NMEA, and have tried NMEA 180, 182, and 183 1.5 and 2.0 at 4800 baud. The Garmin is running version 457 firmware. I have used $GPRMC and $GPGGA. I will also cut and paste a transcript of the packets that the TNC is sending per Bob B.'s suggestion. Maybe we can get this thing working yet! ;) Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC > -----Original Message----- > From: Brent Hildebrand [mailto:bhildebrand@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 9:24 AM > To: Todd Ellis > Subject: Re: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? > > > It would be helpful to know what parameters you are using in you > TNC. Also, what does the data you are receiving on the TNC page > of APRS+SA looks like - just copy and paste it into a message. > Just be sure one understands what you are doing - you want to > have a stand-alone GPS tracker that is be monitored by a D700 or > APRS+SA (or other program) remotely. Note that the LT buffers do > NOT parse any data. You specify which NMEA sentences from the > GPS you want to see, and they are captured and then transmitted > as schedules. What GPS are you suing? Setting up a "Tracker" > with a Kantronics TNC is usually straight forward, but we need > more data on your situation. > > Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z > > APRS+SA > http://www.tapr.org/~kh2z/aprsplus > > [] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Todd Ellis > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:57 AM > Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? > > > Byron and others who answered my call for help last week: > > After wasting 3/4ths of Sunday working on this problem, I have > found some interesting issues. First, if you set up the KPC9612+ > to only beacon, it will be successfully decoded by the D700 and > also show up on APRS+SA (my two test setups). This is where the > fun departs... > > If you are also trying to get the lat/long GPS data to be > filtered into the LT text position, it does not parse the > location information in a way that APRS+SA nor the D700 like to > see, and thus I get the dang "??" message again on the D700, and > nothing at all on the APRS+SA! If you look at the outbound data > packet for $GPGGA or $GPRMS with this unit, you will see each > data component being comma delimited. If you look at any other > location info from APRS+SA or the D700 or other stuff too, the > lat/long is not only formatted differently (3354.76 versus 33, > 54, 76), it also has a slash "/" between the lat and the long. I > was really ready to beat my already flat head onto a hard surface > when I realized nothing squirting out of the 9612 was going to > work. Oh, and BTW, the Xmit light on the second port turns on > and stays on after the very first location report. I am calling > Kantronics today to verify this stuff, and why I can't seem to > get this unit to work less a computer. There HAS to be a good answer. > > I'm sure this is a case of calling the kettle black, but as a > consultant working on various mobile data systems for clients all > over the country, this system (APRS/AX.25) seems far too > complicated to get working for a newbie (Bob B is making a > dartboard from my picture on QRZ.com right now). In fact, I > found two web pages from two sites that had two very different > suggested setup parameters for the TNC. I ended up using both > and throwing out what I figured wasn't usable as I went along. > Maybe this is why there is a hesitancy for folks to get involved > with APRS, and why of the VERY few trackers in the Raleigh, NC > area are all D700s or D7s. The rest are fixed stations using > APRSdos or WinAPRS or APRS+SA! Johnny-come-lately and all (I > started working qith APRS in January of this year), I have to > believe that all the other stations (I counted over 10 locals > yesterday alone) I see with "??" coming up on my display are > having the same kinds of problems and are chaulking it all up to > "I probably don't know what I'm doing, this is as good as I'm > going to get it". My third APRS project is about to fold in > disaster, and for the amount of money invested, I could have > bought another D700! This truely isn't rocket science unless you > count the 9612 I almost threw into a ballistic arc, but we > collectively seem to be trying to make it be that way; I have had > only a couple of responses from posts for help. > > Todd Ellis, N2XL > Raleigh, NC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A fellow APRSer > To: Todd Ellis > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:22 PM > Subject: Re: [htaprs] what in the world am I doing wrong? > > > At 07:29 PM 08/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > Group: > > I am still trying to set up a Kantronics 9612 Plus to operate > in APRS mode with just a GPS connected to it. The BLT packets > are not being decoded by my D700 > > The D700 doenst know how to decode a stand alone tracker. This > is a short comming of advice from a certain APRS author to the > fellow writing the code for D700. Grrr! > > > > Name withheld to protect the innocent > "Cain't we all just get a lawn?" > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 12:59:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA11333 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:59:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:59:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Todd Ellis wrote: > I'm using a Garmin GPS12, and later I will transpose all of the parameters I > have entered into the TNC. The Garmin is set up for NMEA, and have tried > NMEA 180, 182, and 183 1.5 and 2.0 at 4800 baud. The Garmin is running > version 457 firmware. I have used $GPRMC and $GPGGA. I will also cut and > paste a transcript of the packets that the TNC is sending per Bob B.'s > suggestion. Leave it at 4800 baud, latest NMEA version (2.x). Either GPRMC or GPGGA sentences should work, depending on what you set your TNC to look for. GPRMC gives you speed/bearing/lat/lon, while GPGGA gives you altitude/lat/lon. I prefer GPGGA myself 'cuz I'm a leadfoot... I don't have any Kantronics TNC's, so that's probably all the help I can give on this problem. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 13:00:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA11651 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:00:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:00:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C005F7.FC8F88E0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C005F7.FC8F88E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Bathgate, Ed > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 11:40 AM > > Gentlemen > > I had gotten accustomed to leaving my GPSIII + KPC-3 + Htx242 > ht tracker on all the time when it was in my truck. I also used to leave > my RatShack HTX-242 mobile turned on during the same length of time > with no dead battys. Now that I have the D-700, I have run my battery > down 2 times, to the point the truck would not start. Last week, I > jumped it, and it was ok. This morning I had to put the charger on it. > TMD-700 was left on since friday evening after work, saturday & sunday, > & monday till 8am. Even the D700 shut down as did the gps. I suspect > the batty voltage went below 9v or so to cause that. I would rather suspect you have a weak battery ... that point aside, you say nothing of beacon rates and power settings. If you need to Hi power to get into the nearest digi when you are parked I would suggest that 30 minutes is the barest minimum beacon rate (the only reason I even suggest it is if you may feel some overwhelming compulsion to always appear on the Java APRS web display which only shows station with a 35 minutes recency) Preferably it should be one hour. Then again, if you are not moving for 63 hours the GPS is rather superfluous wouldn't you say? Unless you are parking your truck 30 miles from home. I would say set it to low power, digipeat through your home station once an hour. That is what I do here > Has anybody else experienced this radio draining a vehicle battery after > about 63 hours? I ran my D700 in my '91 Blazer as a digipeater on hi power at the Rochester, NH hamfest for 24 hours with no problem. > I did not think this radio drew that much power, but evidently it does. > > Is there a way to reprogram the autopoweroff mode to ignore > squelch openings and only respond to button presses? Otherwise, in APRS mode, > it will never go to sleep. I gotta ask ... why bother? Why leave it on in APRS if you want it to go to sleep? You cannot have your cake and eat it too! 73 de brian semper fi ... BBR -- Brian B. Riley, Lt USMC (ret) Bravo Deuce, 1st Recon 1968-69 1st Recon Website 1st Recon MailList ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C005F7.FC8F88E0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Brian B. 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Box = 188=3D0D=3D0AUnderhill Center, VT 05490-0188=3D0D=3D =3D0AUnited States of America URL: URL:http://www.wulfden.org EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:brianbr@wulfden.org REV:20000808T044722Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C005F7.FC8F88E0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 13:12:23 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA12695 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:12:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Bathgate, Ed" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:11:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <1DE644007776D3119FAC00204840ECF4015202FC@whq-msgusr-03.fore.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ok Gentlemen Bill did an estimated 63.6 AH current drain just from the rig. The GPS uses mimimal current, it can run off of penlight batts, but it too is running off the Truck battery. This leaves 3 possibilities... Either my truck batty has only about 61 AH capacity, or my batty is going bad, or there are additional loads taking place through my electrical system. My current plans: 1. My D700 is going to be shutoff when the engine is off. 2. Im going to carry a notepad and digital volt meter with me and monitor my batty voltage to search for losses. 3. Im gonna keep jumper cables behind my seat! Thanks for the opinions and math work! 73 Ed N3SDO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 13:24:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA14066 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:24:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:22:23 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814132027.00de4670@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > >This leaves 3 possibilities... Either my truck batty has only >about 61 AH capacity, or my batty is going bad, or there are >additional loads taking place through my electrical system. > >My current plans: >1. My D700 is going to be shutoff when the engine is off. >2. Im going to carry a notepad and digital volt meter with me > and monitor my batty voltage to search for losses. >3. Im gonna keep jumper cables behind my seat! My TM-V7 is also a power hog at idle. It draws enough to freak out my security die-hard even in as little as 6 hours. 60-ish AH isn't a big suprise for a car battery. They value peak current more, and pay a penalty to make it rugged enough to stand all the shaking and heat. -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 13:31:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA15809 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:31:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Bill Diaz Reply-To: "billdiaz@megsinet.net" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:30:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01C005F3.D9168F20.billdiaz@megsinet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ed, Turning off the D700 will conserve your precious battery, and our precious bandwidth. Sounds like a good plan to me. Bill KC9XG On Monday, August 14, 2000 1:12 PM, Bathgate, Ed [SMTP:Ed.Bathgate@marconi.com] wrote: > > > Ok Gentlemen > > Bill did an estimated 63.6 AH current drain just from the rig. > The GPS uses mimimal current, it can run off of penlight batts, > but it too is running off the Truck battery. > > This leaves 3 possibilities... Either my truck batty has only > about 61 AH capacity, or my batty is going bad, or there are > additional loads taking place through my electrical system. > > My current plans: > 1. My D700 is going to be shutoff when the engine is off. > 2. Im going to carry a notepad and digital volt meter with me > and monitor my batty voltage to search for losses. > 3. Im gonna keep jumper cables behind my seat! > > Thanks for the opinions and math work! > > 73 > > Ed N3SDO > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 13:32:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA16191 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:32:54 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:31:57 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814125653.00b0e490@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I would also like to add that automotive batteries are now being asked to do things they were never designed to do, and that these batteries are now being designed to be lighter, which actually lowers their operational life. I had a problem with my Chrysler LeBaron convertible discharging batteries after just a day or two of non-driving. Even with no ham radio equipment connected, the drain from the radio/clock memory, the car's ECM, and two alarms (siren & pager), plus the evap emissions purge valve would be enough to discharge the battery to the point of not being able to turn over the starter if the car sat for more than 36 hours. The problem was made worse by the fact that the car was driven about 14 miles round trip on any given workday, which is not even close to enough to charge an already taxed battery. I will admit that I live in places with extreme temperatures. 14 years in Phoenix and now two in South Dakota. In Phoenix 110-120 degress F is common in the summer, where in SoDak we have several weeks in winter where the REAL temperature can dip to -30 F or less at night (and not any of that wind-chill factor stuff - I'm talkin' -30 w/o considering wind). Plus the wind chill factor here is a big deal, since I do live along what meteorologists refer to as Buffalo Ridge, the 2nd windiest (habitable) spot in the continental US. The only place worse being Minot, ND. http://www.me3.org/issues/wind/ The heat and cold really give an automotive battery a beating, so about two years ago, after repeated problems with batteries going dead, I went out and purchased an Optima "spiracell" deep cycle battery. Problem solved. Yes, it was 3 times more expensive than an average car battery. But knowing that my car will start when I leave work at 11 PM in a South Dakota January is worth every penny. Sure, the security people at work will come out and give me a jump start. But have you every tried doing this when the wind is blowing 40 MPH and it's -30? It's really hard to push-start a car when there's 2 feet of snow on the ground... http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm Other benefits are that the battery has the reserve capacity to power all my APRS toys and still start my car. The only problem I had was finding and installing the battery. I had to go to several car parts stores before I found one that would order the battery for me, and then the Optima battery is a little taller and fatter than the battery designed for my Geo. I had to modify the battery tray slightly and re-route the battery cables. All of which took about 1/2 hour. Well worth the effort. 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 13:39:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA17442 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:39:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:37:51 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814133427.00df4a10@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > The problem was made worse by the fact that the car was driven about 14 > miles round trip on any given workday, which is not even close to enough > to charge an already taxed battery. ??? I do all my running within 5 miles, and most trips are under a mile. I have run the battery flat, charged it enough to barely start, then drive two blocks away, shut it down, come back in half an hour, and you can't tell it's not full charged. My alternator puts 80A into a near depleted battery just a little above idle (in addition to running all vehicle loads) I might check out that optima as a second battery for the radio gear though. :) -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 14:46:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA28105 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:46:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Peter Anderson To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Photo to Internet info needed Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:45:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Maybe I was imagining it but was there not a program that would send your VC-1 photos from the Digi to a internet site of your choice? I hope I am not barking up the wrong tree so to speak. But if the person who has the information could email me off the list as to not clutter up the list I would be most grateful. Peter Anderson (Tech) Work Phone: (970) 206-8415 Ext:6401 Home Phone: (970) 988-6045 Pager: (970) 278-2631 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 14:57:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA00162 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:57:11 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:56:20 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814133427.00df4a10@mail.cedar.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814144020.00b107b0@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If you actaully look at the charge rate of a modern vehicle you would see that it would take several hundred miles of driving to fully charge a battery that had been discharged to less than 10 volts. Yes, you may have an 80A alternator (my LeBaron had a 90 amp job, since it had power everything, including the "star wars" dashboard), but the regulator actually only lets through a few of those amps to charge the battery. Most battery manufacturers recommend using a charger on a battery after it has been discharged to a point below where it can't crank a car, even after a jump start. I would recommend that every ham invest the $25 or $30 in an underhood trickle charger and at least once a week pull the specific gravity or voltage on their battery and then charge the battery as necessary. If you buy a charger with automatic float, just hook it up once a week overnight. Mark KC7BXS At 01:37 PM 8/14/00, David VanHorn wrote: >??? I do all my running within 5 miles, and most trips are under a mile. >I have run the battery flat, charged it enough to barely start, then drive >two blocks away, shut it down, come back in half an hour, and you can't >tell it's not full charged. My alternator puts 80A into a near depleted >battery just a little above idle (in addition to running all vehicle loads) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 15:12:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA02885 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:12:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: yd794@mail.victoria.tc.ca Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:41:20 -0700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: John D Erskine Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000814124120.007eb100@mail.victoria.tc.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 14:11 14/8/00 -0400, Bathgate, Ed wrote: > >Ok Gentlemen > >Bill did an estimated 63.6 AH current drain just from the rig. chomp >My current plans: Groan! >1. My D700 is going to be shutoff when the engine is off. chomp >Thanks for the opinions and math work! > >73 > >Ed N3SDO Sri, JD mailto:VA7JD@rac.ca "hee hee,..." "shaddup!" "sri, must be the java...hee hee" John D. Erskine Young friends and old whisky are burning inside" Stan Rogers mailto:yd794@victoria.tc.ca Victoria, BC, Canada Victoria Nautical Song Circle http://victoria.tc.ca/culture/vnsc Victoria Marine Rescue Soc./Cdn. Coast Guard Aux Unit 35(Victoria) http://www.vrms.org/ mailto:jd@rescueteam.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 15:25:22 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA05330 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:25:17 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:24:41 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] RE: THD7 Upgrade, Hats off to Kenwood In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814150505.00b0d480@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I wish I could say the same. Sent my TH-D7 to Kenwood West July, 17 - it was received by them July 20th. On August 7, called them and asked for an update on the status of my radio as I had heard nothing from them to that point. The person on the phone couldn't find the status my HT (it was in the computer) and promised to call me back right away. That never happened. On August 8th called Kenwood again. Spoke to Carmen, she said she whould have to check the status of my TH-D7 too, and would call me back. An hour later Tina called me back and gave a standard "Corporate Apology/Non-apology," but said they did indeed have my HT and would put a rush on it. She said the update would be done that day. Well it's now August 14, and still no TH-D7. We're fast approaching a month. I guess I'll call them tomorrow and see what their story is this week. It should be entertaining. :) Maybe they'll get it back to me by September? Anyone want to start a pool? 73, Mark KC7BXS At 03:51 AM 8/14/00, Fred Halley Jr. wrote: >I sent my THD7 to Kenwood East for the "G" upgrade. They acknowledged >receipt of the radio on 8/4/00. I had the radio back on 8/9/00 with the >upgrade complete and working great. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 15:54:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA13596 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:54:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:51:51 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814144020.00b107b0@pop.primenet.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814133427.00df4a10@mail.cedar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814154851.00e47660@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 02:56 PM 8/14/00 -0500, Mark Fellhauer wrote: >If you actaully look at the charge rate of a modern vehicle you would see >that it would take several hundred miles of driving to fully charge a >battery that had been discharged to less than 10 volts. Yes, you may >have an 80A alternator (my LeBaron had a 90 amp job, since it had power >everything, including the "star wars" dashboard), but the regulator >actually only lets through a few of those amps to charge the battery. That's 80 A into the battery, exclusive of the load. Measured. I didn't think to measure the total output of the alternator, it wasn't what I was looking for at the time. >Most battery manufacturers recommend using a charger on a battery after it >has been discharged to a point below where it can't crank a car, even >after a jump start. I would recommend that every ham invest the $25 or >$30 in an underhood trickle charger and at least once a week pull the >specific gravity or voltage on their battery and then charge the battery >as necessary. If you buy a charger with automatic float, just hook it up >once a week overnight. I'd love to, but mechanical considerations make it difficult. I've thought about solar panels too, but after that last hailstorm, I don't think I'd go for that either... -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 16:11:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA17166 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:10:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Peter Anderson To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Doggy APRS Info Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:10:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk As you all know I have been asking about the alternate frequency for APRS. As it comes up I have decided to go with the regular frequency for the APRS to be able to track my dog with pack on tromping through the forest. I have a GPS wired to a HTX-202 (Yes, I still have one) to avoid the D7A getting banged up. I will be running this test next weekend for all who want to see if we (the both of us, dog and person) show up on findu.com I will be N0WRE and will have the note Chest pack and my dog will be N0WRE-1 with the note doggy pack. If you can find either of us let me know as we will be in Estes Park for the weekend so there may or may not be a signal on findu.com Tanks for all the information you submitted for my asking. Peter Anderson (Tech) Work Phone: (970) 206-8415 Ext:6401 Home Phone: (970) 988-6045 Pager: (970) 278-2631 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 16:11:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA17232 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:11:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:10:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk You can get a device called a Charge Guard CG-12D that will do that if you can't get the radio to do it. I put one in my wife's 4Runner to control her D700, and the cell phone. It can be set from a few minutes to a couple of hours (I think). It's smart, and only has 3 connections. Battery, load and ground. It operates by sensing battery voltage, and will shut off on low voltage as well as time. On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Bathgate, Ed wrote: > > > Gentlemen > > I had gotten accustomed to leaving my GPSIII + KPC-3 + Htx242 ht tracker on > all the time when it was in my truck. I also used to leave my RatShack > HTX-242 > mobile turned on during the same length of time with no dead battys. > > Now that I have the D-700, I have run my battery down 2 times, to the point > the truck would not start. Last week, I jumped it, and it was ok. This > morning I had to put the charger on it. TMD-700 was left on since friday > evening after work, saturday & sunday, & monday till 8am. Even the D700 > shut down as did the gps. I suspect the batty voltage went below 9v or so > to cause that. > > Has anybody else experienced this radio draining a vehicle battery after > about 63 hours? > > I did not think this radio drew that much power, but evidently it does. > > Is there a way to reprogram the autopoweroff mode to ignore squelch openings > and only respond to button presses? Otherwise, in APRS mode, it will never > go to sleep. > > Ed N3SDO > > Ed Bathgate > MFG Engineering Technician. > Bldg 4. (724) 742-6575 > Marconi > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 16:14:45 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA17665 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:14:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert Donnell" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:15:06 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000401c00634$b8e69880$3001a8c0@kalmus.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Assuming that the vehicle is being operated with fairly minimal loads right after being started (not comfortable in some parts of the country, for sure!) then most of the current capability of the alternator should be put into the vehicle battery, to bring its voltage back up. This DOES assume that things like the blower motor, A/C compressor clutch, head lights, engine cooling fan, etc. are NOT running, i.e. daytime running conditions in temperate climate conditions, with accessory operation disabled. If under those conditions immediatly after starting the vehicle, you see low charge current, goose the engine a little. If the charge current is still low, then it's time to suspect the resistance of wiring between the battery and alternator. If the alternator is voltage-limiting (not current or capacity limiting) at that point, then you have a high resistance point in the charging system. Note that if the battery has not been being discharged by alternate loads (like leaving radio gear, headlights, etc.) turned on, that high-current charge phase will not last long, perhaps 5-10 seconds, because all that's being done is returning to the battery that energy taken out to crank the engine. Of course, with most vehicle instrumentation, there's no way to tell - you have to use alternate means to monitor the charge current, and techniques that don't impose any resistance in the circuit, otherwise you're creating the circumstance you're trying to confirm. One method (that comes at significant cost) is to use a DC-capable clamp-on current sensor to measure current flow in/out of the battery. Fluke offers these, but as I recall, the going rate is about $180. An ammeter with a beefy (and hence low voltage drop) shunt could be used also. Measuring the voltage difference between the alternator output terminal and the positive battery post would be a good indication - you should never see more than a 0.5 volt difference between these spots unless you're using a diode isolator for running a dual-battery system. In that case, do two voltage measurements - from the alternator to the anode, and from the cathode to the battery. Anything more than about 0.1 volts drop warrants your attention, because with the internal regulators standard on most alternators, the 0.7 volt drop of these isolators is already dropping the available regulated voltage for fully charging the battery to marginal levels. By the way, a favorite spot for low charge current due to high resistance to creep in is at the main power connector through the firewall. This is a spot that can be subject to corrosion and moisture, and sometimes the charging path to the battery involves passage through this big multi-pin connector. This has happened to me - and it took a while before I figured out that a loosening connector was the cause of low charging current and wide voltage swings under heavy load conditions. The battery tried to make up where the alternator could not (idle conditions with all accessories running) like it's supposed to, but the high resistance in the connector meant that the voltage to lights and fans was dropping to about 9 volts - very obvious - at stop lights. Unfortunatly I found a direct replacement for the single terminal in the connector block unobtainable, so I ended up wiring around it. When I did so, normal operation (as I had been used to it) was immediatly restored - and the battery got its first good charge in weeks. Again, assuming that you're not using a lot of the alternator capacity somewhere else, and that the amp-hour rating of the battery is somewhere in the 80-100 AH area that's typical for a group 24 or group 27 car battery, you should be able to estimate the time to recharge the battery pretty easily - add about 50% to 100% to the time allowance to accomodate the tapering off effect and the consumption of other loads. The recharge function will be more a function of time than speed in most newer vehicles, because the alternators are generally being spun faster than in older vehicles to keep the voltage up, so that the need to draw from the battery under stop and go driving with lots of loads online is reduced or eliminated. The result is that they usually achieve full output at low speeds, rather than requiring the session on the freeway that was more common in the good 'ole days. >If you actaully look at the charge rate of a modern vehicle you would see >that it would take several hundred miles of driving to fully charge a >battery that had been discharged to less than 10 volts. Yes, you may have >an 80A alternator (my LeBaron had a 90 amp job, since it had power >everything, including the "star wars" dashboard), but the regulator >actually only lets through a few of those amps to charge the battery. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 16:18:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA18105 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:18:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:16:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher Arndt To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Optima batteries can be gotten from www.galls.com, too. On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mark Fellhauer wrote: > > years ago, after repeated problems with batteries going dead, I went out > and purchased an Optima "spiracell" deep cycle battery. Problem > solved. Yes, it was 3 times more expensive than an average car > battery. But knowing that my car will start when I leave work at 11 PM in > a South Dakota January is worth every penny. Sure, the security people at > work will come out and give me a jump start. But have you every tried > doing this when the wind is blowing 40 MPH and it's -30? It's really hard > to push-start a car when there's 2 feet of snow on the ground... > > http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm > > Other benefits are that the battery has the reserve capacity to power all > my APRS toys and still start my car. > > The only problem I had was finding and installing the battery. I had to > go to several car parts stores before I found one that would order the > battery for me, and then the Optima battery is a little taller and fatter > than the battery designed for my Geo. I had to modify the battery tray > slightly and re-route the battery cables. All of which took about 1/2 > hour. Well worth the effort. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 16:30:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA20885 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:29:11 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814144020.00b107b0@pop.primenet.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000814133427.00df4a10@mail.cedar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814160412.00b14a20@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 03:51 PM 8/14/00, you wrote: >At 02:56 PM 8/14/00 -0500, Mark Fellhauer wrote: > >>If you actaully look at the charge rate of a modern vehicle you would see >>that it would take several hundred miles of driving to fully charge a >>battery that had been discharged to less than 10 volts. Yes, you may >>have an 80A alternator (my LeBaron had a 90 amp job, since it had power >>everything, including the "star wars" dashboard), but the regulator >>actually only lets through a few of those amps to charge the battery. > >That's 80 A into the battery, exclusive of the load. Measured. I didn't >think to measure the total output of the alternator, it wasn't what I was >looking for at the time. The regulator may allow for an large inrush of current to feed the battery for a small period of time, but a properly running charge circuit on a car (with a good battery) should prevent a normal charge rate above C/10. Any more would be detrimental to the battery. A partially discharged wet cell can soak up a whopping amount of current for short periods of time, but if you were to run 80 amps into an automotive battery for say 25 to 30 minutes, it would most likely gas out 'til the plates were exposed and then the battery would probably explode or catch fire. My wimpy 12 amp charger is enough to make car batteries "boil" within 15 or 20 minutes. Outgassing in normal when charging a wet cell, but if the battery is making gurgling sounds you're charging it at too high a rate. >> I would recommend that every ham invest the $25 or $30 in an >> underhood trickle charger and at least once a week pull the specific >> gravity or voltage on their battery and then charge the battery as >> necessary. If you buy a charger with automatic float, just hook it up >> once a week overnight. > >I'd love to, but mechanical considerations make it difficult. >I've thought about solar panels too, but after that last hailstorm, I >don't think I'd go for that either... An underhood trickle charger is about 4"x5"x1.5" and many can mount right to the battery in many cases. Or it can be remote mounted to the firewall or any convenient location via 18 guage wire. 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 16:44:10 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA23664 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:44:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:42:23 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814160412.00b14a20@pop.primenet.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814144020.00b107b0@pop.primenet.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20000814133427.00df4a10@mail.cedar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814164022.00dcca80@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > >The regulator may allow for an large inrush of current to feed the battery >for a small period of time, but a properly running charge circuit on a car >(with a good battery) should prevent a normal charge rate above >C/10. Any more would be detrimental to the battery. A partially >discharged wet cell can soak up a whopping amount of current for short >periods of time, but if you were to run 80 amps into an automotive battery >for say 25 to 30 minutes, it would most likely gas out 'til the plates >were exposed and then the battery would probably explode or catch >fire. My wimpy 12 amp charger is enough to make car batteries "boil" >within 15 or 20 minutes. Outgassing in normal when charging a wet cell, >but if the battery is making gurgling sounds you're charging it at too >high a rate. No unusual symptoms, but I'm sure it dosen't keep that up for long. The bat voltage will rise, and then the voltage regulator will limit the charge, as normal for lead acid. >An underhood trickle charger is about 4"x5"x1.5" and many can mount right >to the battery in many cases. Or it can be remote mounted to the >firewall or any convenient location via 18 guage wire. I can't easily get any energy out to the car though.. :-( Maybe a microwave beam! :) -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 17:14:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA29176 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:13:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:06:15 -0400 From: Arte Booten Reply-To: n2zrc@arrl.net X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Solar Battery Chargers [Was: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck.] References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814133427.00df4a10@mail.cedar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39986D57.BAE276EA@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Dave VanH. wrote: >I've thought about solar panels [to keep a car battery charged] ... Do any SIGgers have experiences with those on-the-dash solar cells advertised to keep the car's battery topped off? Since I've been mostly using my boss's truck the past few years, I find my own vehicle sitting in the parking lot across the street most of the time. I'm only driving it about once or twice a month, if that much, and would like to know it will start without a jump the next time I get in. The APRS connection? It's N2ZRC-12, of course! V7a & Pico w/GPS. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| *PGP Key Fingerprint: D73E B889 C630 6F4A F31F 3083 56BD 0AAD 9996 3B03* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 17:57:04 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA06046 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:57:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:53:54 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: Solar Battery Chargers [Was: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck.] In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814133427.00df4a10@mail.cedar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000814175316.00cc6100@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > Do any SIGgers have experiences with those on-the-dash solar cells >advertised to keep the car's battery topped off? Since I've been mostly >using my boss's truck the past few years, I find my own vehicle sitting >in the parking lot across the street most of the time. I'm only driving >it about once or twice a month, if that much, and would like to know it >will start without a jump the next time I get in. Best I've seen is about 200mA full sun. That's not much, but it's better than nothing. -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 17:58:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA06487 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:58:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Todd Ellis" From: "Todd Ellis" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: <4.3.1.2.20000814083058.01b9ab00@mail.theworks.com> <4.3.1.2.20000814103909.01ba23d0@mail.theworks.com> Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:49:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000701c00641$f8c561e0$0593a8c0@boothassoc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk OK...I think I have it going thanks to Byron! You all won't believe what the problem was...the TNC was set up properly. The GOS unit needed adjustment! According to Byron's instructions, I changed the nav format to Hddd mm.mmm, and this didn't work either. Then looking at how my location is formated in APRS+SA, I changed the format to Hddd.mmmm and the damn thing is working fine now. Haven't seen any docs on this "feature" yet...but look for KA2TLU-9 and that will be the unit in test mode at the house. Todd Ellis, N2XL Raleigh, NC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 18:21:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA08910 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:21:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Todd Ellis wrote: > OK...I think I have it going thanks to Byron! You all won't believe what > the problem was...the TNC was set up properly. The GOS unit needed > adjustment! According to Byron's instructions, I changed the nav format to > Hddd mm.mmm, and this didn't work either. Then looking at how my location > is formated in APRS+SA, I changed the format to Hddd.mmmm and the damn thing > is working fine now. Haven't seen any docs on this "feature" yet...but look > for KA2TLU-9 and that will be the unit in test mode at the house. That makes no sense. Assuming NMEA 0183 2.x format, the lat/lon doesn't change format in the NMEA sentences. On Garmins the Datum DOES affect the NMEA data, but that's it (and that wouldn't affect whether or not the whole thing worked, it would have just shifted your position on the map a little bit). The nav format will only change what is displayed on the LCD, not the NMEA data. Must have been something else. Gremlins maybe. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 19:03:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA17113 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:03:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:01:12 -0400 From: Tim Yeatman X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39988848.E8C73B2F@aei.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ed, I use a device called an EMeter by Cruising Equipment on my solar setup. It is like a battery gas guage and measures a shunt inserted into the negative battery terminal. It gives readings of present battery voltage, charge or discharge amps, percent of capacity and a bunch of other stuff. It can be ordered with an optional rs232 interface. Very usefull. The base model is around $150 usd. There is another similar but larger one called the TriMetric. "Bathgate, Ed" wrote: > Ok Gentlemen > > Bill did an estimated 63.6 AH current drain just from the rig. > The GPS uses mimimal current, it can run off of penlight batts, > but it too is running off the Truck battery. > > This leaves 3 possibilities... Either my truck batty has only > about 61 AH capacity, or my batty is going bad, or there are > additional loads taking place through my electrical system. > > My current plans: > 1. My D700 is going to be shutoff when the engine is off. > 2. Im going to carry a notepad and digital volt meter with me > and monitor my batty voltage to search for losses. > 3. Im gonna keep jumper cables behind my seat! > > Thanks for the opinions and math work! > > 73 > > Ed N3SDO > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tyeatman@aei.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 19:06:43 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA17806 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:06:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] thd-7 no position on winaprs Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:08:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001b01c0064c$f7ca8620$2dba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk i got a lot of direct e mail today from hams that have the same problem with the thd-7G i went to the pc and reset all the tnc comands in packet mode to match the printout i had on the thd7A found gps text and ltext different any how that did not change anything to do with aprs. i ran the thd7-g on winaprs and all works normal but the stand alond thd7-g with or without a gps does not send out lat long or status message i did find myself and n6bg via findu out in the atlantic ocean i think byon is on a thd7g also. we are both at the same place in local winaprs keep zooming in and look for yourself far east if you are with thd7 g problems. if anyone calls kenwood before i do let us all know what the scoop is. 73 steve las vegas to find out how many hams have a problem like this, respond to this sig with header message thd7g position problem if you found a soluton let us know find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 20:57:49 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA07383 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:57:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Solar Battery Chargers [Was: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck.] Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:57:01 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: Arte Booten > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:06 PM > > Hi all, > > Dave VanH. wrote: > > >I've thought about solar panels [to keep a car battery charged] ... > > Do any SIGgers have experiences with those on-the-dash > solar cells advertised to keep the car's battery topped off? > Since I've been mostly using my boss's truck the past few years, > I find my own vehicle sitting in the parking lot across the street > most of the time. I'm only driving it about once or twice a month, > if that much, and would like to know it will start without a jump > the next time I get in. They work out very well. You will see the difference in performance even after a single day or a few days, the battery will be topped off and will start just that much easier. The charge rate of these small panels is small enough that there is little worry about overcharge. Plus its only "on" for 6-12 hours per day. I have used it on a vehicle and eeked an extra six months out of a marginal battery and then when I put the new battery in left it in place. A guy here in town has a humongous crew cab trck with 8 foot bed and dual batteries. He is set up for the second battery only paralleled to the first if the engine is running. He has a 20 watt flexible type solar panel mounted on his roof, wired through a diode splitter that keeps them both topped off when the engine is off. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 20:58:03 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA07397 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:57:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] thd7G middle of atlantic Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:59:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000501c0065c$85030760$9dba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk i see a lot of hams in the middle of the atlantic ocean, if you are on a thd7-G do you see yourself on winaprs or findu.com? find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 21:05:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA08069 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:05:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] kd4ufd-14 thd7G winaprs Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:06:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000701c0065d$7f7568a0$9dba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk here in vegas kd4ufd-14 is being fed via digi, but on my winaprs 246 map the station is in the atlantic ocean but on find u he is in california in the data stream there is no posit info shown on history via winaprs its kd4ufd-14+AD4-svrstp,relay,wide: i just wonder if its a thd7 G? find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 22:04:30 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA16172 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:04:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:06:19 -0700 Reply-To: carndt@slonet.org From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: kd4ufd-14 thd7G winaprs List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200008142006190050.11C38EFE@mail.in-con.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I noticed this problem with 2.4.6. Dropping back in versions fixed it. I think I went to 2.2.8. Also, it seems to be fixed in 2.4.7. 2.4.7 isn't on the TAPR site, but the update is at ftp://aprs.rutgers.edu/pub/hamradio/APRS/WinAPRS/ *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/14/00, at 7:07 PM, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: >here in vegas kd4ufd-14 is being fed via digi, but on my winaprs 246 map >the station is in the atlantic ocean but on find u he is in california > >in the data stream there is no posit info shown on history via winaprs its >kd4ufd-14+AD4-svrstp,relay,wide: > > >i just wonder if its a thd7 G? > > > > > >find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only >if i am sending my position out and in satellite range > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org >Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 14 22:33:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA19953 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:33:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] thd7G winaprs old version Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:35:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001501c00669$e3968880$9dba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk it was suggested to load a old version or winaprs and see if my position is corrected with my thd7G i think i will do that tomorrow. if that works, i means something in winaprs 246 is weird. thanks for the suggestions 73 find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 09:35:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA22932 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:34:57 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Joe B. Dorn" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:28:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I carry one of the 'Battery Powered Jumpers', the plastic encased batteries available from Sam's and other such places for about 50 dollars. IT WORKS!!! There is now one available with 110v inverter for not much more. I also use it as supplemental power on long events such as parades for my HT. I strap it on the back of my ATV and don't worry about the amount of transmissions... The unit has been called into jumper service several times with quick starts every time... We don't leave home without it... Joe Dorn, W5VEX, Belton, Texas -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-15400@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-15400@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of David VanHorn Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:52 PM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. At 02:56 PM 8/14/00 -0500, Mark Fellhauer wrote: >If you actaully look at the charge rate of a modern vehicle you would see >that it would take several hundred miles of driving to fully charge a >battery that had been discharged to less than 10 volts. Yes, you may >have an 80A alternator (my LeBaron had a 90 amp job, since it had power >everything, including the "star wars" dashboard), but the regulator >actually only lets through a few of those amps to charge the battery. That's 80 A into the battery, exclusive of the load. Measured. I didn't think to measure the total output of the alternator, it wasn't what I was looking for at the time. >Most battery manufacturers recommend using a charger on a battery after it >has been discharged to a point below where it can't crank a car, even >after a jump start. I would recommend that every ham invest the $25 or >$30 in an underhood trickle charger and at least once a week pull the >specific gravity or voltage on their battery and then charge the battery >as necessary. If you buy a charger with automatic float, just hook it up >once a week overnight. I'd love to, but mechanical considerations make it difficult. I've thought about solar panels too, but after that last hailstorm, I don't think I'd go for that either... -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: joedorn@stonemedia.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 10:27:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA02392 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:27:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:26:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7G middle of atlantic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > i see a lot of hams in the middle of the atlantic ocean, if you are on a > thd7-G do you see yourself on winaprs or findu.com? I have the same sort of problem, but am NOT running a TH-D7A or D700A. I'm running a TinyTrak. The commonality here is that most of the people that end up in the ocean are running MIC-E formatted packets. MIC-E allows 4 or 5 non-printable ASCII characters to be used in the longitude field and some other fields (but not for the latitude). Any TNC or computer that is filtering out control characters or the DEL character will cause the position to be off. On an AEA TNC the "afilter" and "mfilter" commands will filter some of these characters by default. afilter off mfilter 0 Will prevent the loss of these characters on an AEA TNC. If you're using other TNC's, check for other commands that might be set inappropriately. Here are some of my packets after they have been expanded by various APRS client software, to show you where the problem lies: Tue Aug 15 07:41:07 2000 WE7U-12>APD213,RELAY*,WIDE5-4:@151343z4757.10N/12211.98Wj175/054/E>dsy/M1/Enroute... Tue Aug 15 07:41:10 2000 WE7U-12>APRS,RELAY*,WIDE5-2:@151534z4757.10N/12211.96Wj175/054/Mic-E/M1/Enroute> Tue Aug 15 07:42:07 2000 WE7U-12>APD213,RELAY*,WIDE5-4:@151344z4756.18N/02211.83Wj170/052/E>dsy/M1/Enroute... Tue Aug 15 07:42:09 2000 WE7U-12>APRS,RELAY*,WIDE5-4:@151535z4756.16N/02211.81Wj170/052/Mic-E/M1/Enroute> Tue Aug 15 07:42:10 2000 WE7U-12>APRS,N7IFJ-10*,WIDE5-1/1:@151437z4756.18N/02211.83Wj170/052/E>dsy/M1/Enroute... Tue Aug 15 07:42:11 2000 WE7U-12>APRS,RELAY*,WIDE5-1:@151537z4756.16N/02211.81Wj170/052/Mic-E/M1/Enroute> WE7U-12>APD214,RELAY*,WIDE5-1:!4756.18N/02211.83Wj170/052/Mic-E/M1/Enroute... See the problem (latitude field)? This is most likely due to either APRS client software doing an incorrect expansion of the MIC-E packet, or due to one of the non-printable ASCII characters getting dropped somewhere. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 11:30:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA14079 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:30:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: tjh@pop.ggaweb.ch Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:28:55 +0200 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Tom Hoedjes (HB9DOD)" Subject: [htaprs] Alinco with TNC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000815182546.00a81300@pop.ggaweb.ch> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi there, Has anybody alread some experiences wit h the new alinco with built-in tnc.. I am curiuos what command set they have used... It seems it has a tnc AND gps connector on it..... 73 de Tom --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 11:46:36 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA16899 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:46:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alinco with TNC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Tom Hoedjes (HB9DOD) wrote: > Has anybody alread some experiences wit h the new alinco with built-in tnc.. > > I am curiuos what command set they have used... > > It seems it has a tnc AND gps connector on it..... I already saw on one list (aprssig?) that the manual was available on their site, and that it appeared to NOT have digipeat capability. I haven't read it yet though. Yes, it has a computer connector and a GPS connector. I heard a price of around $330 with the TNC board installed. If they get digipeat capability in there I'm going to be after one of them. You're also supposed to be able to leave the GPS plugged in and go between voice mode and APRS mode just fine. I'm also interested in any experiences people have with them, but I'm not sure they've hit the store shelves yet. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 11:52:24 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA17618 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:52:23 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Rick Olsen" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Alinco with TNC Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:52:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I finally had an opportunity to look at one yesterday. I will be doing a review of the radio for 73 Magazine. No doubt there will be numerous reviews over the next month or so. My first glance impression is that the instruction set is very limited, and that the UIDigi command is not implemented. I have not confirmed that to my satisfaction as of yet, so stay tuned. I do know that the retail price will most likely fall to around $300.00 due to competition among the various radio dealerships. This makes it an attractive APRS tool when looking at the cost/benefits of the alternatives. More to come, Rick Olsen, N6NR Contributing Editor 73 Magazine --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 12:03:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA19094 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:03:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:02:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] RE: Alinco with TNC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Rick Olsen wrote: > I finally had an opportunity to look at one yesterday. I will be doing a > review of the radio for 73 Magazine. No doubt there will be numerous > reviews over the next month or so. My first glance impression is that the > instruction set is very limited, and that the UIDigi command is not > implemented. I have not confirmed that to my satisfaction as of yet, so Please check for WIDE5-5 & TRACE5-5 type operation (is that the UIDIGI stuff?) as we use that here in the Northwest. Even if it doesn't support that, I'll buy one anyway if it has "myalias relay" capability. I have a need to digipeat low-power trackers through vehicles to get up to the WIDE's. Good luck on the review. Look forward to it. Can you keep us all posted on any severe negatives, so we don't waste our money on the early models? Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 12:16:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA21550 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:16:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:14:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01C006AA.05A0B8C0.tarnerich@in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk "Bathgate, Ed" n wrote: >Now that I have the D-700, I have run my battery down 2 times, to the point >the truck would not start. ... TMD-700 was left on since friday >evening after work, saturday & sunday, & monday till 8am. Even the D700 >shut down as did the gps. I suspect the batty voltage went below 9v or so >to cause that. > >Has anybody else experienced this radio draining a vehicle battery after >about 63 hours? Nope. For me it runs down quicker. Where can I get a battery as good as yours? I'm serious, read on... >I did not think this radio drew that much power, but evidently it does. The specs in the manual will tell the story. I think that the HTX-242 draws about 1A on receive, but this figure depends on whether the squelch is closed or open, and if open what load is placed on the audio output. I don't know the input impedance on the D700, again check your specs. Now do the math, using a figure of about 65 to 85 amp hours for a typical starter battery. Sounds to me like you may be getting your money's worth out of that battery! Fine business on that. My experience with starter batteries is that they are really terrible when used as if they were deep discharge types. Take two batteries of the same size and weight (i.e., same amount of lead in them), one is a marine deep discharge style, the other is an automotive starter style. In my limited experience (I've only killed two starter batteries so far with my tracker), the deep discharge gives me about 2x to 3x as much energy as the starter battery before it quits. To sum up, your battery is doing *very* well in spite of what you're subjecting it to. Do the battery a favor and recharge it via running the engine every day or two, lead-acid batteries die soon if they spend most of their time in a discharged state, even partially discharged. But then the other question is why leave a tracker powered up if it's stationary and unattended for 1/2 a week at a time... 73, Tony KD7TA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 12:44:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA25245 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:44:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:42:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01C006AD.F75F4A20.tarnerich@in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mark Fellhauer wrote: >The problem was >made worse by the fact that the car was driven about 14 miles round trip on >any given workday, which is not even close to enough to charge an already >taxed battery. At the risk of starting the next great APRS SIG Thread, let me add a bit more to this discussion. If a starter battery doesn't get recharged on a 7 mile drive it's definitely time to get the charging system repaired or battery replaced. Let's say you draw 600 amps for 2 seconds to start your car, that's 1200 amp-seconds or 0.33 amp-hour. If your alternator can produce the typical 50A or more, it should be recharged within 2 minutes assuming the battery isn't beat up. In fact I monitor the recharge on my battery all the time, courtesy of the voltage readout on my Yaesu FT8100 mobile rig. Sure enough, the voltage drops from 14.8V down to 14.3V or less within 2 minutes, indicating that the charger circuitry is sensing that battery is topping off. Finally, the 63 hours of running a D700 indicates that the battery *was* in excellent shape. It's not any more though, as discharging a starter battery that deep has damaged it, as well as being in a semi-discharged state for so long in the interim. Lead acid batteries like to be in a fully recharged state as much as possible, anything else is life-reducing. My personal limit for unattended tracker use is now 24 hours, derived from my experience of a too-deep discharge happening within 48 hours. And that's with a brand new large battery. That need for a jump start happened because I thought that the previous battery, a 2-year old one, must have been wimpy when it died within 48 hours, so surely a new battery would last longer. Not! Now I know the old one was just fine - until I worked it too hard that is. Mea Culpa. 73, Tony KD7TA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 13:16:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA01024 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:16:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:20:47 +0100 Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] null modem From: Carl Littlejohns Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Is this wiring chart correct? I believe it is, but I guess folk here will know (and others might find it a useful summary) It calculates three types of null modem adaptor.... A-C, A-D and B-C A B C D 9 25 25 9 way way way way can 1 = 1 can 3 2 = 3 2 2 3 = 2 3 7 4 = 5 8 8 5 = 4 7 6 6+8 = 20 4 5 7 = 7 5 4 20 = 6+8 6 Carl --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 13:45:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA05806 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:45:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: n3hcp/nbn.net@127.0.0.1 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:45:13 -0400 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Gary Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000815142713.00a26f00@127.0.0.1> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 11:42 AM 8/15/00 -0600, you wrote: >Mark Fellhauer wrote: > > >The problem was > >made worse by the fact that the car was driven about 14 miles round trip on > >any given workday, which is not even close to enough to charge an already > >taxed battery. OK, my 2 cents worth. I have had the same situation. My solution was to install a Ramsey ($5.00 kit) timer and a couple of relays. When the ignition goes off, the KPC3 goes from every minute to every 15 minutes and after 3 hours the entire tracker (HTX-242, KPC-3+, Tripmate) shuts down. The theory here is that who cares where my truck is after 3 hours in the same place? If I come back to the truck in less then 3 hours, the system is powered up and ready to go. In the morning it may take a couple minutes for the GPS to lock up, but that's a small price to pay for not needing to worry about the battery and clogging up the network with unnecessary and redundant packets. The system is fully automatic, but only works it the GPS will self start and the TNC will support the CLEAR statement in the GPSHEAD setting. IMHO this solves a number of problems. I have a fully automatic tracker, the network isn't full of old position reports, my starter battery is safe, and I'm a happy camper! Gary N3HCP http://www.n3hcp.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 15:10:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24749 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:10:37 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:10:00 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000815134236.00aece70@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 12:42 PM 8/15/00, Tony Arnerich wrote: >Mark Fellhauer wrote: > > >The problem was > >made worse by the fact that the car was driven about 14 miles round trip on > >any given workday, which is not even close to enough to charge an already > >taxed battery. > >At the risk of starting the next great APRS SIG Thread, let me add a bit more >to this discussion. If a starter battery doesn't get recharged on a 7 mile >drive it's definitely time to get the charging system repaired or battery >replaced. Try reading the whole post. My point was that a battery with more than a 15% depth of discharge will not be charged in 7 miles, especially if your charging system is operating properly. If you don't believe me, ask a battery manufacturer or speak to someone who actually designs charging systems for vehicles. ANY battery manufacturer will tell you that if you discharge a starter battery to a point where it will no longer crank the vehicle it should be put on a stationary charger (as soon a possible) until fully charged - because it will take several hours of driving to fully charge a battery. I actually used to work in the service department of the largest Nissan dealership in the country and sat through several tech classes taught by the factory engineers. Charging ANY battery over a rate of C/10 for more than a few minutes will seriously shorten it's life. Furthermore, letting my LeBaron sit over the weekend to the point at which it would barely start and then driving it 7 miles, only to shut it off for 7-8 hours (used a company car during the day), with the DRAIN on the battery still there, assured that the battery was never getting fully charged. Think about it... BTW, the LeBaron was fully scoped (on a $1200 battery/charging system analyzer) by a local shop that was very competent and specialized in electrical systems, and the car had a brand new alternator/regulator & battery. Their diagnosis: Too much load on the battery with the vehicle shut off and not enough driving. Same as mine. The problem started when I changed jobs; before, I had been driving 36 miles per day in the car just to get to work, and then usually driving another 4-10 miles during the work day. After changing jobs the car would barely get up to operating temperature before I got to work... The car was now 12 years old, street tired, needed a new top, new interior, new suspension, the A/C had died, (it had new brakes and tires)... so for $400 I sold the car to a young woman who worked at a day-care center less than 2 miles from her house, and she had several problems with the car not starting, so I went and pulled the pager alarm from under the dash (which was drawing something like 325 ma with the car shut off). And I pulled the fuse from the main alarm (which had quit working) and it was drawing like 85 ma with the car shut off. The starting problems went away after that. I do not know why the pager alarm required that much current. As a funny aside, she had the car for about a 16 months and stopped driving it because would no longer pass emissions. The car had something like 190,000 miles on it. The engine's number one cylinder valves were burned down to nubbins (based on the spark plug ashing), but the car still ran OK, because the turbocharger was keeping the compression up. Mileage had dropped to under 18 MPG. She put a for-sale sign on it. Some guy came out to look at the car, and she explained it drove but needed top-end work. He popped the hood and took one look at the alternator (the spiffy heavy duty one I'd put in less than two years before). He told her he didn't want the car, but would give her 100 bucks for the alternator. She told him he could have the alternator, but he'd have to take the car too! He gave her a couple hundred bucks and drove off... That was 1997. Funny thing, a friend of mine SWEARS he saw the car driving a few months ago, still plying the streets of Phoenix. :) 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 18:40:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA02883 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:40:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: 15 Aug 2000 23:38:31 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Doggy APRS Info Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <45D56ACA0EFB140A> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id SAA02883 >As you all know I have been asking about the alternate >frequency for APRS. As it comes up I have decided to go with >the regular frequency for the APRS to be able to track my >dog with pack on tromping through the forest. After resetting my D7 last month, but before reentering the memory channels, I noticed one day that the APRS traffic was sparse. There only seemed to be a couple of stations out there. I suddenly realized that the frequency was 144.395, but APRS packets were coming in. No, I don't remember the call signs, nor did I write tnem down. It was either some transmitter freq drift from a digi, or it was a small group that hopped up .005 mhz for some private comms.... You know who you are! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 18:40:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA02894 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:40:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: 15 Aug 2000 23:38:34 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <45D56B50D1603B87> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id SAA02894 >>>This leaves 3 possibilities... Either my truck batty has only about 61 AH capacity, or my batty is going bad, or there are additional loads taking place through my electrical system. >>>My current plans: 1. My D700 is going to be shutoff when the engine is off. >>>2. Im going to carry a notepad and digital volt meter with me and monitor my batty voltage to search for losses. >>>3. Im gonna keep jumper cables behind my seat! If all else fails, use the old CBer's trick for running linears while the vehicle is turned off: Run a second battery in tandem, and for best results make them both Heavy Duty. You can get fancy autoswitches that isolate them so you can't draw both down to zilch, charge one at a time, etc. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 19:22:38 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA10395 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:22:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:24:01 -0700 Reply-To: carndt@slonet.org From: "Chris Arndt" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200008151724010260.165581D9@mail.in-con.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Without a switch, this _may_ lead to starter problems down the line. Starters and batteries are generally engineered as a system. Parallel batteries can lead to the starter drawing too much current. Over time, this can eat up brushes or the solenoid. For a while, I had a decommissioned '69 Superior ambulance that was built on a stretched Pontiac Bonneville chassis with the high output 428 pursuit engine. Superior installed a second battery in parallel to handle all the electrical loads, and I had the hardest time keeping starters in it. Now, with the wisdom of age, I realize Superior may have put a beefier starter in it originally, while I was putting in cheapo rebuilts that probably couldn't handle the extra available current. (and man, that baby could haul ass...) *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 8/15/00, at 4:59 PM, Wayne H. Sanderson wrote: > >If all else fails, use the old CBer's trick for running linears while the vehicle is turned off: Run a second battery in tandem, and for best results make them both Heavy Duty. You can get fancy autoswitches that isolate them so you can't draw both down to zilch, charge one at a time, etc. > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: carndt@slonet.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org >Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 19:40:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA12111 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:40:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:38:22 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] RE: Kenwood TMD-700 auto power off / dead battery in my truck. In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000815193133.00c82230@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 05:24 PM 8/15/00 -0700, Chris Arndt wrote: >Without a switch, this _may_ lead to starter problems down the line. >Starters and batteries are generally engineered as a system. Parallel >batteries can lead to the starter drawing too much current. Over time, this >can eat up brushes or the solenoid. I've been thinking along this line, because my future may hold a pair of GE deltas in addition to the existing system. What looks best to me so far, is an additional battery located at the transmitter, with a small boost switcher, probably 5-10A output bypassed with a 100A diode, and with a reversing switch (on the booster only!) Without the booster, you have a simple isolated battery, which is charged when the engine is running, through the monster diode. With the booster, you have better control of the charge voltage, plus the ability (with the reversing switch) to charge the vehicle battery from the backup battery. It's not fast, but it's pretty safe. No large currents running around. If the booster fails, you're back to the battery and diode, so it's a fail-workable system. The usual "oh-shit" fuses inline, with spares. This also keeps the radio battery from interacting with the starter, since it can only supply a maximum of 5A additional current. In my car, this is enough to start the car, starting from "click, click, click, bzzzzt" in about 10 minutes. -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 15 23:20:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA16584 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:20:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Byon Garrabrant" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 21:19:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] MIC-E format [was: thd7G middle of atlantic] CC: APRSsig@tapr.org Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: Message-ID: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <034d83917041080HAMS2@lvcablemodem.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 15 Aug 00, at 8:26, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > > > i see a lot of hams in the middle of the atlantic ocean, if you are on > > a thd7-G do you see yourself on winaprs or findu.com? > > > I have the same sort of problem, but am NOT running a TH-D7A or D700A. I'm > running a TinyTrak. > > The commonality here is that most of the people that end up in the > ocean are running MIC-E formatted packets. MIC-E allows 4 or 5 > non-printable ASCII characters to be used in the longitude field > and some other fields (but not for the latitude). I think it is possible for a tracker to avoid non-printable ASCII characters in the longitude field, and it is even possible to avoid them int the SP and DC fields. However, it is NOT possible to avoid them in the SE field. There is no way to encode a 0 degree heading (a common heading) without the use of the ASCII char 0x1C. What do others think of having a tracker add 4 degrees to a heading whose mod 100 is 0? So, if the GPS reports a heading of 100, the tracker would encode that as 104, 0 would become 4. This would be introducing error to the data, but resolving these dropped character problems. Or, should trackers just not use the MIC-E Data format due to this inherent problem? Would compressed data format be better, assuming the trackers could handle it? Byon ________________________________________ Byon Garrabrant N6BG byon@mail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 08:21:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA10901 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:21:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "hasan schiers" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:20:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002501c00784$c34488e0$58178ea7@netins.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk A friend of mine (ka2hsv) who has a gps 12 told me that he discovered why his packets weren't showing up on aprs properly. He said that if you do the "self-test" (whatever that is), that the Garmin resets its comm parms back to garmin/garmin instead of nmea. If you have been doing resets, you might check that. ...hasan ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Ellis To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:37 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? > > Hey Brent/Bob: > > I'm using a Garmin GPS12, and later I will transpose all of the parameters I > have entered into the TNC. The Garmin is set up for NMEA, and have tried > NMEA 180, 182, and 183 1.5 and 2.0 at 4800 baud. The Garmin is running > version 457 firmware. I have used $GPRMC and $GPGGA. I will also cut and > paste a transcript of the packets that the TNC is sending per Bob B.'s > suggestion. > > Maybe we can get this thing working yet! ;) > > Todd Ellis, N2XL > Raleigh, NC > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brent Hildebrand [mailto:bhildebrand@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 9:24 AM > > To: Todd Ellis > > Subject: Re: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? > > > > > > It would be helpful to know what parameters you are using in you > > TNC. Also, what does the data you are receiving on the TNC page > > of APRS+SA looks like - just copy and paste it into a message. > > Just be sure one understands what you are doing - you want to > > have a stand-alone GPS tracker that is be monitored by a D700 or > > APRS+SA (or other program) remotely. Note that the LT buffers do > > NOT parse any data. You specify which NMEA sentences from the > > GPS you want to see, and they are captured and then transmitted > > as schedules. What GPS are you suing? Setting up a "Tracker" > > with a Kantronics TNC is usually straight forward, but we need > > more data on your situation. > > > > Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z > > > > APRS+SA > > http://www.tapr.org/~kh2z/aprsplus > > > > [] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Todd Ellis > > To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS > > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:57 AM > > Subject: [htaprs] Re: what in the world am I doing wrong? > > > > > > Byron and others who answered my call for help last week: > > > > After wasting 3/4ths of Sunday working on this problem, I have > > found some interesting issues. First, if you set up the KPC9612+ > > to only beacon, it will be successfully decoded by the D700 and > > also show up on APRS+SA (my two test setups). This is where the > > fun departs... > > > > If you are also trying to get the lat/long GPS data to be > > filtered into the LT text position, it does not parse the > > location information in a way that APRS+SA nor the D700 like to > > see, and thus I get the dang "??" message again on the D700, and > > nothing at all on the APRS+SA! If you look at the outbound data > > packet for $GPGGA or $GPRMS with this unit, you will see each > > data component being comma delimited. If you look at any other > > location info from APRS+SA or the D700 or other stuff too, the > > lat/long is not only formatted differently (3354.76 versus 33, > > 54, 76), it also has a slash "/" between the lat and the long. I > > was really ready to beat my already flat head onto a hard surface > > when I realized nothing squirting out of the 9612 was going to > > work. Oh, and BTW, the Xmit light on the second port turns on > > and stays on after the very first location report. I am calling > > Kantronics today to verify this stuff, and why I can't seem to > > get this unit to work less a computer. There HAS to be a good answer. > > > > I'm sure this is a case of calling the kettle black, but as a > > consultant working on various mobile data systems for clients all > > over the country, this system (APRS/AX.25) seems far too > > complicated to get working for a newbie (Bob B is making a > > dartboard from my picture on QRZ.com right now). In fact, I > > found two web pages from two sites that had two very different > > suggested setup parameters for the TNC. I ended up using both > > and throwing out what I figured wasn't usable as I went along. > > Maybe this is why there is a hesitancy for folks to get involved > > with APRS, and why of the VERY few trackers in the Raleigh, NC > > area are all D700s or D7s. The rest are fixed stations using > > APRSdos or WinAPRS or APRS+SA! Johnny-come-lately and all (I > > started working qith APRS in January of this year), I have to > > believe that all the other stations (I counted over 10 locals > > yesterday alone) I see with "??" coming up on my display are > > having the same kinds of problems and are chaulking it all up to > > "I probably don't know what I'm doing, this is as good as I'm > > going to get it". My third APRS project is about to fold in > > disaster, and for the amount of money invested, I could have > > bought another D700! This truely isn't rocket science unless you > > count the 9612 I almost threw into a ballistic arc, but we > > collectively seem to be trying to make it be that way; I have had > > only a couple of responses from posts for help. > > > > Todd Ellis, N2XL > > Raleigh, NC > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: A fellow APRSer > > To: Todd Ellis > > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [htaprs] what in the world am I doing wrong? > > > > > > At 07:29 PM 08/12/2000 -0400, you wrote: > > > > Group: > > > > I am still trying to set up a Kantronics 9612 Plus to operate > > in APRS mode with just a GPS connected to it. The BLT packets > > are not being decoded by my D700 > > > > The D700 doenst know how to decode a stand alone tracker. This > > is a short comming of advice from a certain APRS author to the > > fellow writing the code for D700. Grrr! > > > > > > > > Name withheld to protect the innocent > > "Cain't we all just get a lawn?" > > > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: SCHIERS@NETINS.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 08:41:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA14753 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:41:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Bathgate, Ed" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Punishing a dead horse... AUTOMATIC POWER OFF - D700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:41:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <1DE644007776D3119FAC00204840ECF401520301@whq-msgusr-03.fore.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I set my APO on, and the radio ran overnight without turning its self off. "Control, we have a bug." Evidently Ron and Rob are not the only ones to have trouble with the D-700 "APO" not turning its self off in APRS mode. Is there a software fix? Can the TM-D-700 programming be changed through the serial port, as a boot-strap download function, or does it need to have a prom changed to update its brains? Is kenwood keeping a "stuff to adjust" list? Ed N3SDO -----Original Message----- From: Robbie Robertson [mailto:mwrobertson@mediaone.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:01 AM "Ronald G. Parsons" wrote: > > The AUTOMATIC POWER OFF function does not seem to function properly when > the D700 has one band in APRS mode and beaconing or digipeating. > > However, my unit does not shut off even though no buttons are pressed. > > Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? APO only works if no buttons are pushed by you, OR NO signals heard on either band for the alloted time specified in APO... As soon as a signal breaks squelch, the APO function is reset.. Good luck Robbie --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 08:48:55 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA15387 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:48:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:48:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , APRSsig@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIC-E format [was: thd7G middle of atlantic] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Byon Garrabrant wrote about missplotted Mic-E's: > What do others think of having a tracker add 4 degrees to a > heading whose mod 100 is 0?... > > Or, should trackers just not use the MIC-E Data format due to this > inherent problem? .... If I could summarize this problem (hope I got it right). THere are 600 MicE's, thousands of Kenwoods and Pic-E's that all use the same format. None of the APRS programs have problems decoding it. But there are 2 problems: 1) Improper set up TNC's for 8 bit.. The INITxxxx.TNC files included in APRSdos at least will always set up the TNC correctly. If someone's APRS software version is not properly setting up the TNC, then please contact that author and let him know.... 2) RF packets gated to the INTERNET by APRS software that does not set up an 8 bit link. Same again. Contact your software author and ask him to fix it. I think that represents the whole picture? Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 08:53:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA15509 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:53:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:52:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Punishing a dead horse... AUTOMATIC POWER OFF - D700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I think it is intentional that in APRS mode you dont want APO to shut off your APRS tracker. Yet, if you only operate voice only and turn off 144.39 to save battery, then the APO will take over and work. On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Bathgate, Ed wrote: > > I set my APO on, and the radio ran overnight without turning its > self off. "Control, we have a bug." > > Evidently Ron and Rob are not the only ones to have trouble with > the D-700 "APO" not turning its self off in APRS mode. > > Is there a software fix? Can the TM-D-700 programming be changed > through the serial port, as a boot-strap download function, or > does it need to have a prom changed to update its brains? > > Is kenwood keeping a "stuff to adjust" list? > > Ed N3SDO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robbie Robertson [mailto:mwrobertson@mediaone.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:01 AM > > "Ronald G. Parsons" wrote: > > > > The AUTOMATIC POWER OFF function does not seem to function properly when > > the D700 has one band in APRS mode and beaconing or digipeating. > > > > However, my unit does not shut off even though no buttons are pressed. > > > > Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? > > APO only works if no buttons are pushed by you, OR NO > signals heard on either band for the alloted time > specified in APO... As soon as a signal breaks squelch, > the APO function is reset.. > > Good luck > > Robbie > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 10:29:37 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA27259 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:29:33 -0500 (CDT) From: Charles Allison To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:31:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en Subject: [htaprs] Re: Doggy APRS Info X-Accept-Language: en Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" Date: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:38 pm Subject: [htaprs] Re: Doggy APRS Info > >As you all know I have been asking about the alternate >frequency > for APRS. As it comes up I have decided to go with >the regular > frequency for the APRS to be able to track my >dog with pack on > tromping through the forest. > > After resetting my D7 last month, but before reentering the memory > channels, I noticed one day that the APRS traffic was sparse. > There only seemed to be a couple of stations out there. I suddenly > realized that the frequency was 144.395, but APRS packets were > coming in. > No, I don't remember the call signs, nor did I write tnem down. It > was either some transmitter freq drift from a digi, or it was a > small group that hopped up .005 mhz for some private comms.... You > know who you are! > I'm sure it's normal 144.39 traffic. But since you are 5 kHz off freq, you are only hearing the strong stations. I'm sure all the APRS stations you were hearing were really on freq. 5 kHz off freq would not give you any privacy. Skip K9SA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 10:45:33 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA00672 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:45:32 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:45:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org, APRSsig@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIC-E format [was: thd7G middle of atlantic] In-Reply-To: <034d83917041080HAMS2@lvcablemodem.com> Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Byon Garrabrant wrote: > What do others think of having a tracker add 4 degrees to a > heading whose mod 100 is 0? So, if the GPS reports a heading of > 100, the tracker would encode that as 104, 0 would become 4. > This would be introducing error to the data, but resolving these > dropped character problems. > > Or, should trackers just not use the MIC-E Data format due to this > inherent problem? Would compressed data format be better, > assuming the trackers could handle it? I saw Bob's response, and he is absolutely correct that the client and igate software should be corrected. That said: I would be much happier in the interim with a TinyTrak that would attempt to avoid the non-printable characters. I'm getting a bit tired of driving in the atlantic ocean. The pacific would have been much better (closer to home anyway, good joke Bill). I looked at the compressed format for my HC11 tracker (YYYYXXXX format), and it was a bit difficult to do on a lower-end processor. The MIC-E protocol was much easier to implement and appeared to be designed for low-end processors to do. If Byon can figure out how to do compressed protocol with a PIC, more power to you. When I last looked at it, it appeared that I needed floating point. In my experiments I was getting more packets into the system each time I managed to shorten my packets, so I went from '!' format to MIC-E format, attempting and failing at compressed packets along the way. It seems though that up to a third of my MIC-E packets have the dropped-character problem, putting me in the Atlantic. Combine this with most of the digi's expanding my packets back to normal size and most of the advantages of MIC-E format dissapear. I just want it fixed. Long-term the igates and client software need to be fixed. It'd be nice if MIC-E format was left alone on RF (not expanded) and even passed through the internet unchanged. Short-term I'd like to see a TinyTrak that would do it's best to avoid the non-printables. It's easy to re-program the chip later once the rest of the system has been repaired. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 12:32:18 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA17610 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:32:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Thomas M. Schaefer" From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "TAPR PIC Development Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] PIC project? Was AUTOMATIC POWER OFF - D700 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:26:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00a501c007a7$309fb640$6ec6ed89@SC017588> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If someone adept at Pic programming wants to. it is possible to have a PIC with an input for the ignition and once the ignition is turned off, it sends a message to the D700 over the serial port to select a different PM memory. This PM could have a greater interval between transmissions. Also, when the ignition was on, it could then select another one for the "normal" mode. One other idea is to start a timer after the car is off and after some interval, turn the radio off completely. Tom NY4I ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bathgate, Ed" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 7:41 AM Subject: [htaprs] Punishing a dead horse... AUTOMATIC POWER OFF - D700 > > I set my APO on, and the radio ran overnight without turning its > self off. "Control, we have a bug." > > Evidently Ron and Rob are not the only ones to have trouble with > the D-700 "APO" not turning its self off in APRS mode. > > Is there a software fix? Can the TM-D-700 programming be changed > through the serial port, as a boot-strap download function, or > does it need to have a prom changed to update its brains? > > Is kenwood keeping a "stuff to adjust" list? > > Ed N3SDO > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robbie Robertson [mailto:mwrobertson@mediaone.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:01 AM > > "Ronald G. Parsons" wrote: > > > > The AUTOMATIC POWER OFF function does not seem to function properly when > > the D700 has one band in APRS mode and beaconing or digipeating. > > > > However, my unit does not shut off even though no buttons are pressed. > > > > Is this a bug? Is there a workaround? > > APO only works if no buttons are pushed by you, OR NO > signals heard on either band for the alloted time > specified in APO... As soon as a signal breaks squelch, > the APO function is reset.. > > Good luck > > Robbie > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: toms@inconnect.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 18:38:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA20390 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:38:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 19:38:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , APRSsig@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIC-E format [was: thd7G middle of atlantic] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote: > I looked at the compressed format for my HC11 tracker (YYYYXXXX > format), and it was a bit difficult to do on a lower-end processor... > when I last looked at it, it appeared that I needed floating point. I chose the conversion constants so that you can let the least significant Byte be always numerically 0 and then you can do it with single precision 16 bit integers. The result will still encode and decode to the nearest 80 feet or so (instead of 1 foot). It will always look like this: "YYY!XXX!" since "!" is a zero in the LSB's. This is how I do it in APRSdos, since no one will ever use APRSdos to the nearest foot anyway... and it allowed me to use simpler code. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 20:16:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA08730 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:16:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "stridr" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRS and New England Ride for Kids Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:14:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0466_01C007C7.03D438A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <046901c007e8$8b6c1fa0$9042bc18@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0466_01C007C7.03D438A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Sunday, 20 Aug I'll be leading several hundred motorcycle riders in a = police escorted ride from North Oxford, MA to Amherst, MA. I'll have = the D7 (with a Mirage BD35 amp and a Diamond 2m/440 ant) and GPS III+ on = board the m/c, and hopefully will be able to get into some of the digis. = I'd appreciate anyone who sees W1HO-7 letting me know. We'll be leaving WalMart in North Oxford at 10:00 AM and the ride is = about an hour and a half. The purpose of the ride is to raise funds for the Pediatric Brain Tumor = Foundation of the U.S. Last year we raised $61,000.00 on our ride, and = we're looking to substantially increase that this year. 73, Howard ----------------------------- Help eradicate Pediatric Brain Tumors Support our ride 20 Aug 2000 http://go.to/nerfk Howard Hecht W1HO P.O. Box 3483 Milford, CT 06460-0943 Co-Task Force Leader New England Ride for Kids ------=_NextPart_000_0466_01C007C7.03D438A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
Sunday, 20 Aug I'll be leading several = hundred=20 motorcycle riders in a police escorted ride from North Oxford, MA=20 to Amherst, MA.  I'll have the D7 (with a Mirage BD35 amp and = a=20 Diamond 2m/440 ant) and GPS III+ on board the m/c, and hopefully = will be=20 able to get into some of the digis.  I'd appreciate anyone who sees = W1HO-7=20 letting me know.
 
We'll be leaving WalMart in North = Oxford at 10:00=20 AM and the ride is about an hour and a half.
 
The purpose of the ride is to raise = funds for the=20 Pediatric Brain Tumor Foundation of the U.S.  Last year we raised=20 $61,000.00 on our ride, and we're looking to substantially increase that = this=20 year.
 
73,
 
Howard
-----------------------------
Help = eradicate=20 Pediatric Brain Tumors
Support our ride 20 Aug 2000
http://go.to/nerfk
 
Howard Hecht   W1HO
P.O. = Box 3483=20 Milford, CT 06460-0943
 
Co-Task Force Leader New England Ride = for=20 Kids
------=_NextPart_000_0466_01C007C7.03D438A0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 16 20:33:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA10270 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:32:58 -0500 (CDT) From: K3for@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 21:31:16 EDT Subject: [htaprs] FRS radios $29/pair local To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: htaprs@lists.tapr.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Get kids involved in radio - buy them FRS's! Great for scouts, mall, beach, boating, and hunting - the more you use them, the more you'll want. Keep a pair in the truck for emergencies. Sears has Coleman 14-channel FRS's on sale in Annapolis, perhaps your locale, too, for $29/PAIR (no, don't think these have PL). I am NOT associated with the store. Normally $79, $10 off, plus $40 rebate til the 17th. I give pairs away as gifts as a wireless "intercom system" after modifying one of them to take a wall wart for power. Have one in the kitchen, the other is carried into the backyard/garage/hamshack. Be careful about legalities. These are for voice-voice use only. Things I have seen done, but are not allowed: - packet demonstrations (note: FRS is 2.5kHz deviation) - using an FRS pair to key the VOX of a remote ham rig - telemetry - SSTV (yup, it works) - DTMF operation of devices One bad thing is, it's hard to find an open channel at the mall, these days. Skip/K3FOR Annapolis --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 09:39:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA16400 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:39:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: jsk-jonk@44.16.2.10 Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:38:56 -0700 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Jonathan Kaplan Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mounting TM-D700 Control Head In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000817072805.00b368d0@44.16.2.10> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm just back from vacation in Idaho and Canada so here's my delayed $US.02 ($CDN .03): I have my d700's mounted under the front passenger seats in my Nissan Pathfinder and under the drivers seat in a Toyota Sienna van. In the van, there is empty floor space between the console and the dash in the center. The control head is mounted on the top of a goose neck attached to the floor in the center of the Sienna. In the Pathfinder, The control head is mounted to an empty space below the CD player. In both cases, I took the guts from the power supply for the gps unit (mounted in corner of dash), put it in a project box to fit behind the head, and added a reset switch. The only caution I would repeat here is to find out from the dealer where the car's computer is. That ( and space considerations) will determine under which seat you will want to put the D700 Good Luck 73 Jonathan KO6XS At 05:53 AM 8/7/00 -0500, Billy Mason, KD5KNR wrote: >Does anyone have any suggestions for mounting the control head of a D700 >in a '99 Ford Explorer? The radio itself, fits fine under the back >seats... plenty of breathing room when even when they are folded down. > >Also, where might the best place for the power source be? It appears >there is no easy place/way to get bridge through the firewall. I am >currently utilizing the utility plug on the console, but with after >reading the latest "Up In Smoke" stories... I really don't want to utilize >it as a permanent power source. > >Billy Mason, KD5KNR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 09:48:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA18299 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:48:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: David Locke Reply-To: "locked@intplsrv.net" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "htaprs@lists.tapr.org" Subject: [htaprs] RE: [aprssig] FRS radios $29/pair local Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:49:00 -0500 Encoding: 38 TEXT List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01C00830.5F60B680.locked@intplsrv.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Works great with adults too! -----Original Message----- From: K3for@aol.com [SMTP:K3for@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:31 PM To: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [aprssig] FRS radios $29/pair local Get kids involved in radio - buy them FRS's! Great for scouts, mall, beach, boating, and hunting - the more you use them, the more you'll want. Keep a pair in the truck for emergencies. Sears has Coleman 14-channel FRS's on sale in Annapolis, perhaps your locale, too, for $29/PAIR (no, don't think these have PL). I am NOT associated with the store. Normally $79, $10 off, plus $40 rebate til the 17th. I give pairs away as gifts as a wireless "intercom system" after modifying one of them to take a wall wart for power. Have one in the kitchen, the other is carried into the backyard/garage/hamshack. Be careful about legalities. These are for voice-voice use only. Things I have seen done, but are not allowed: - packet demonstrations (note: FRS is 2.5kHz deviation) - using an FRS pair to key the VOX of a remote ham rig - telemetry - SSTV (yup, it works) - DTMF operation of devices One bad thing is, it's hard to find an open channel at the mall, these days. Skip/K3FOR Annapolis --- You are currently subscribed to aprssig as: locked@intplsrv.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprssig-18534J@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 10:35:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA29464 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:35:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Don DeJarnette" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] RE: [aprssig] FRS radios $29/pair local Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:35:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000d01c00860$b98c0da0$65146dd8@gsa.state.al.us> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk MEI-Micro Center (www.mei-microcenter.com) has Maxon FRS radios on sale for $29.97. These radios have CTCSS, Channel Scan, 1/2 Watt Power, Call, etc. . 73 de Don KC4YRT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 12:44:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA03500 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:44:30 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:43:57 -0700 From: "Steve & Ginny Grudzinski" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Cc: "htaprs@lists.tapr.org" X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: grudzinski@angelfire.com Subject: [htaprs] Re: Reflector traffic X-Sender-Ip: 64.13.140.166 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Am I alone here or is this reflector becoming a general chat line about any topic. I have seen questions and/or information shared that might not belong here. But who am I... Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 12:50:46 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA04848 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:50:43 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:49:38 -0700 From: "Steve & Ginny Grudzinski" Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sent-Mail: off Reply-To: ad6ht@arrl.net Subject: [htaprs] aprs reflector traffic X-Sender-Ip: 64.13.140.166 Organization: Angelfire (http://email.angelfire.mailcity.lycos.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Am I alone here or is this reflector becoming a general chat line about any topic. I have seen questions and/or information shared that might not belong here. But who am I... The HTAPRS SIG has a few simple rules: 1) Stick to the subject. That means no virus alerts, no chocolate chip cookie recipes, no surplus gear fire sales, no nothing that isn't directly related to new APRS hardware. Steve ad6ht Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 14:01:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA24126 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:01:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:03:36 -0500 From: Tim Grooms X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood TH-D7A(G) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <399C3708.1D7A439B@gocomputers.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Anxiously awaiting UPS delivery of my new Kenwood D7A(G) radio today. I have seen people talking of problems with the included antenna. Does anyone know if I'll be able to make the trip to my nearest repeater 25 miles away with the stock antenna? Thanks for any info. Tim KD5LEZ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 14:09:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA25611 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:09:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:07:46 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TH-D7A(G) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000817140629.00e07380@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > >be able to make the trip to my nearest repeater 25 miles away with the >stock antenna? Depends mostly on the repeater, but I doubt it. The D7A antenna, for it's size, is the worst performing antenna I have seen. A comet sma whip tripled my range. (9x gain) -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 14:27:14 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA01350 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:27:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:26:43 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] PalmAPRS and Tripmate/TH-D7A To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have not been able to get the Tripmate to provide location information using Palm Pilot, PalmAPRS and the Kenwood TH-D7A. Has anybody else had this trouble? Thanks, John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 14:33:16 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA02931 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:33:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:32:49 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: PalmAPRS and Tripmate/TH-D7A To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I forgot. It works with my Garmin GPS 3P. Yes, I am in 'packet' mode with the TH-D7A and yes I should be doing most everything correctly or the Gramin wouldn't work. Just having trouble with the Tripmate. The Tripmate and the Kenwood work well together in normal tracker mode without PalmAPRS. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, John W Wilson wrote: > I have not been able to get the Tripmate to provide location information > using Palm Pilot, PalmAPRS and the Kenwood TH-D7A. Has anybody else had > this trouble? Thanks, > > > John W. Wilson, KN4HX > z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 14:35:15 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA03732 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:35:10 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 12:34:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: PalmAPRS and Tripmate/TH-D7A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, John W Wilson wrote: > I have not been able to get the Tripmate to provide location information > using Palm Pilot, PalmAPRS and the Kenwood TH-D7A. Has anybody else had > this trouble? Thanks, You do know that with the Tripmate, unless you make a modification to it, needs to see the string "ASTRAL" sent to it to start sending out GPS data, right? It needs this every time it is powered up. The DeLorme software sends this string to it to get it going. I assume some of the APRS client software does this as well. One quick fix is to short pins 2/3 together for a few seconds when you start it up (make sure you're not going to damage anything else by doing this). The Tripmate sends the string "ASTRAL" out as part of another string, and you can make it talk to itself to initialize. After that, it functions as a normal NMEA GPS receiver. If you wanted to do it more properly, I suppose an adapter could be made that wrapped the one pin back to the GPS, and didn't connect the computer or TNC through to the gps input pin at all. Should work well and always initialize. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 16:53:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA07602 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:53:00 -0500 (CDT) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:50:34 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TH-D7A(G) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: htaprs@lists.tapr.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <70.23c2ca9.26cdb82a@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/17/00 1:02:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, kd5lez@gocomputers.net writes: << Does anyone know if I'll be able to make the trip to my nearest repeater 25 miles away with the stock antenna? >> Hey Tim, I get to a reperater about 20 miles away. You can boost your power with 12V. You can also consider a jpole antenna which is cheap and easy to make. I can send you a link for this if you want? Let us know your results. 73-Ron - KD5HTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 16:55:00 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA08057 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:54:59 -0500 (CDT) From: RASNM@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:53:17 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TH-D7A(G) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4e.9ead5ab.26cdb8cd@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 8/17/00 1:10:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, dvanhorn@cedar.net writes: << A comet sma whip tripled my range. (9x gain) -- >> David, is it dual band and what is the model number? Thanks Ron --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 17:29:21 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA14690 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:16:37 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TH-D7A(G) In-Reply-To: <4e.9ead5ab.26cdb8cd@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000817171603.00c359b0@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 05:53 PM 8/17/00 -0400, RASNM@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 8/17/00 1:10:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, >dvanhorn@cedar.net writes: > ><< A comet sma whip tripled my range. (9x gain) > -- >> > >David, is it dual band and what is the model number? Yes, but offhand I don't know the model. About 20 inches long, flexy whip. -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 17 18:45:13 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA25179 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:45:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TH-D7A(G) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:16:37 CDT." Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:43:31 -0700 From: "John B. Sullivan " List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200008172343.QAA23465@marvin> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Sounds like the SMA-24. Seventeen inches long. I wouldn't say that it has tripled my range, even on 2m, but it did allow me to work Mir. I am able to get into a 440 repeater that is 40 miles away, not quite line-of-sight, with the stock antenna. Sometimes using only 500mW. But I'm full quieting with a 39 inch whip. John WD6BTP > At 05:53 PM 8/17/00 -0400, RASNM@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 8/17/00 1:10:22 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > >dvanhorn@cedar.net writes: > > > ><< A comet sma whip tripled my range. (9x gain) > > -- >> > > > >David, is it dual band and what is the model number? > > > Yes, but offhand I don't know the model. About 20 inches long, flexy whip. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 18 13:21:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA12208 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:21:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:54:22 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: PalmAPRS and Tripmate/TH-D7A To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS , TAPR Hot Technology APRS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks, Curt, but I am able to run the Tripmate with the Kenwood as a tracker, which means that the Tripmate has that modification. 73, John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Curt Mills, WE7U wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, John W Wilson wrote: > > > I have not been able to get the Tripmate to provide location information > > using Palm Pilot, PalmAPRS and the Kenwood TH-D7A. Has anybody else had > > this trouble? Thanks, > > You do know that with the Tripmate, unless you make a modification to > it, needs to see the string "ASTRAL" sent to it to start sending out > GPS data, right? It needs this every time it is powered up. The > DeLorme software sends this string to it to get it going. I assume > some of the APRS client software does this as well. > > One quick fix is to short pins 2/3 together for a few seconds when > you start it up (make sure you're not going to damage anything else > by doing this). The Tripmate sends the string "ASTRAL" out as > part of another string, and you can make it talk to itself to > initialize. > > After that, it functions as a normal NMEA GPS receiver. > > If you wanted to do it more properly, I suppose an adapter could > be made that wrapped the one pin back to the GPS, and didn't connect > the computer or TNC through to the gps input pin at all. Should work > well and always initialize. > > Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com > Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin > "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown > "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 18 14:51:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA02065 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:51:44 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 02:22:30 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood TH-D7A(G) update In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000818021905.00af7640@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I finally got my TH-D7 back from Kenwood West. One month to the day after I sent it off for the upgrade. :( 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 18 15:11:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA04803 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:11:29 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kc5ejk@mailhost.onramp.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:14:37 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: PalmAPRS and Tripmate/TH-D7A List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Thanks, Curt, but I am able to run the Tripmate with the Kenwood as a >tracker, which means that the Tripmate has that modification. 73, The original D7a would not work with a tripmate as the lon/lat had extra decimal place in lon/lat. All units after 011-xxxxx worked. the tripmate needs a control line set hi to start as well as seeing ASTRAL on the RS-232 input line. Some RS-232 ports might loop back the data and you need not make a special jumper. ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 18 15:35:14 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA09386 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:35:12 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Dave Flack" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 antenna Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 13:33:47 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002501c00953$9c8e9760$a60b1418@snvl1.sfba.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I use the Comet SH-55 with a BNC/SMA adaptor. It's rubber and about 15 inches. Works great on 2M/440. Dave W6DLF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 19 09:15:11 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA01711 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:15:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Virus Warnings/This is a Joke ! Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:13:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C009BD.C671F580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000a01c009e7$afb453e0$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C009BD.C671F580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable High School Freshman 1st day at school is talking to his techno wiz = friends and ask=20 them what did you do this summer we wrote virus softeware they replied = and it has taken out the pentagon all major sourced of computers in the = free world. So he ponders as they ask him what did you do oh i didnt cause that = much hate and discontent but the virus i sent out cause more damage than any other in = the world antivirus software will not detect it and it is traceable to = the author, and it spreads like a case of the plauge. his friends were = in awe of his mighty talents and ask him for the code So he sends them his code as a email and it reads like this subject this is a virus warning please forward to every one in your = adress book In the content section he posted the only way that you can get rid of me = is put your system disk in your computers and type format c:\ when this = is complete tpye fdisk=20 and delete every thing then you will be safe form me. Well his freinds got the email thinking they were infected did as the = instructions on the post stated .And it wasnt long before all the = computers in town were down for the count why because people are like = cow moo. The did what the email said and trashed there on machines. Some thing to think about so please dont post any virus warnings here = =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C009BD.C671F580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
High School Freshman 1st day at school is talking to = his=20 techno wiz friends and ask
them what did you do this summer we wrote virus = softeware they=20 replied and it has taken out the pentagon all major sourced of computers = in the=20 free world.
 
    So he ponders as they ask him = what did you=20 do oh i didnt cause that much hate and
discontent but the virus i sent out cause more = damage than any=20 other in the world antivirus software will not detect it and it is = traceable to=20 the author, and it spreads like a case of the plauge.  his friends = were in=20 awe of his mighty talents and ask him for the code
 
So he sends them his code as a email
 
and it reads like this
 
subject  this is a virus warning please forward = to every=20 one in your adress book
 
 
In the content section he posted the only way that = you can get=20 rid of me is put your system disk in your computers and type format c:\ = when=20 this is complete tpye fdisk 
and delete every thing then you will be = safe form=20 me.
 
 
 
Well his freinds got the email thinking they = were=20 infected did as the instructions on the post stated .And it wasnt = long=20 before all the computers in town were down for the count why because = people are=20 like cow moo. The did what the email said and trashed there on=20 machines.
 
Some thing to think about so please dont post any = virus=20 warnings here    
 
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C009BD.C671F580-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Aug 19 10:31:50 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA12220 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:31:49 -0500 (CDT) From: kk5yy@arrl.net (Gerald Schmitt) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7G middle of atlantic Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:30:59 GMT Reply-To: kk5yy@arrl.net Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39a0a811.42345134@smtp.mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id KAA12220 I have been having this problem since shortly after Dayton where my THD-7A was upgraded. My observations are: The radio gets the lat/long from the GPS and operates properly for some time, from minutes to hours then it stops having updating your position then it goes to lat/long 00.00/00.00. I have tried several varaints of APRS+ but it doesn't change things. If you change the THD-7A(G) back into beacon or internal APRS mode it works just fine the position updates and is broadcast properly. You can check this by pushing the position button and displaying where your THD-7 thinks it is. This seems to be a problem with the G model only I never experienced this before the mod. It occurs to me that there are internal collisions between the two I/O ports that are not being elegantly resolved internal to the THD-7 and are being treated as loss of contact with the GPS. It looks like it is going to take a firmware fix to address this. If anyone has a bright idea please post it. If developers need any testing I would be glad to try and help. 73 Jerry KK5YY On Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:59:57 -0700, you wrote: >i see a lot of hams in the middle of the atlantic ocean, if you are on a >thd7-G do you see yourself on winaprs or findu.com? > > >find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only >if i am sending my position out and in satellite range > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kk5yy@arrl.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org >Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 20 16:50:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA24358 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:50:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] THD-7G amd winaprs Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:52:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002901c00af0$ffc1e5a0$cfba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk well.....my upgraded thd7-g is now working fine. its kd8s-14 i run the thd7g with a magellan meridian xl in the nema b mode. i talked to kenwood when i tried everything to get it to send out posit correct, then saturday i gave it one last try, and out of the blue its working the way its suppose to work. i have no idea what i did different......i did say +ACI-oh lord i hope i don't have to send my radio back to kenwood+ACI- as if some sort of magic it was healed. i have been playing with my thd7 g and the kewood tmd700a all weekend and its working good. its nice to back in the deserts of las vegas instead of the middle of the atlantic ocean. whatever went on with the rig i am happy. next time your radios crap out try a prayer.........i am sure it works 73 kd8s las vegas find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 20 16:57:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA25938 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:57:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] nickle metal pb-39 maha Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:59:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003301c00af1$e2709900$cfba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk i got the nickle metal maha pb-39 for the kenwood thd7g i have the bc-19 charger.... when i put the nickle metal into the charger its always flashing red on the charger.... i have charged the battery on the wall wart. anyone had any luck on chargeing the nickle metal pb-39 on the kenwood bc-19 drop in charger? did you end up buying the maha charger? 73 find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 20 17:01:56 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA26349 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:01:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: dvanhorn@mail.cedar.net Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:59:22 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: David VanHorn Subject: [htaprs] Re: nickle metal pb-39 maha In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20000820165843.00ce9f00@mail.cedar.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > >anyone had any luck on chargeing the nickle metal pb-39 on the kenwood >bc-19 drop in charger? My Ed Yost NIMH charges just fine in the BC-19. It's over a year old. -- Where's dave? http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?kc6ete-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 20 17:19:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA28572 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:19:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Fw: nickle metal pb-39 maha Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:20:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <007701c00af4$ecb114a0$cfba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk hey..someone forward this to the californig aprs sig for me -----Original Message----- From: STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS +ADw-kd8s+AEA-SKYLINK.NET+AD4- To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS +ADw-htaprs+AEA-lists.tapr.org+AD4- Date: Sunday, August 20, 2000 3:01 PM Subject: +AFs-htaprs+AF0- nickle metal pb-39 maha +AD4-i got the nickle metal maha pb-39 for the kenwood thd7g +AD4- +AD4-i have the bc-19 charger.... +AD4- +AD4-when i put the nickle metal into the charger its always flashing red on the +AD4-charger.... +AD4- +AD4-i have charged the battery on the wall wart. +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-anyone had any luck on chargeing the nickle metal pb-39 on the kenwood +AD4-bc-19 drop in charger? +AD4- +AD4- +AD4-did you end up buying the maha charger? +AD4- +AD4-73 +AD4-find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only +AD4-if i am sending my position out and in satellite range +AD4- +AD4- +AD4---- +AD4-You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: KD8S+AEA-SKYLINK.NET +AD4-To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-3734W+AEA-lists.tapr.org +AD4-Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou+AEA-tapr.org +AD4- +AD4- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 20 17:37:19 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA02216 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:37:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] goodnews thd-700a Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:37:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <008101c00af7$4d320ee0$cfba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have been very happy so far with the tmd700. there is more than enough bells and whistles to keep any ham busy for a long time. its always nice to be happy with a new radio where there are so many choices out in radio land. Kenwood support via the service department has always been good for me over the the years that I have been a ham. they have never let me down . I always wonder how many phone calls Kenwood must get on any given Monday about radio /operator problems. most of the high end radios are not plug and play and you must read and understand the operating manual and do some testing. ham radio has been and will always be a technical hobby where you must put time and effort into learning and understanding. its sure a great way to eat up time+ACEAIQ- find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if I am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 20 18:18:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA09794 for ; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:18:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] tracking Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 16:19:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00b001c00afd$1ee98d00$cfba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk uh oh......i am still waiting for the first sig message where a ham says his house/car was broken into because the techno cook knew where he/she was due to the open aprs net. i am always home, i never leave, i got 15 dogs, alarm system, posted guards, wife, 20 kids, security system cameras, around the clock security to guard my +ACQ-100.00 ham radio, my favorite toy. and i have a mean junkyard dog in my gated community only kidding +ACE- i aint't got nothin duh find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 21 09:53:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA17500 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:53:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian B. Riley, N1BQ" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "Bob Bruninga" Subject: [htaprs] WinTelnetX Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:52:33 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Interesting ... this was forwarded to me today ... there has gotta be a use for this by us somewhere .... ooohhhhhh Boooooobbbbbbbb????? -- N1BQ-3 @ 44 31.73N 072 51.55W WideN-N digi and weather station in Underhill Center, VT ------- Forwarded Message Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:53:45 +0100 From: David Robbins To: yccc Subject: [YCCC] coming soon! and still FREE! Coming soon to a computer near you... WinTelnetX 4.0! This will include the most asked for feature of the last year! Yes, I finally got around to it! With this version you will be able to take a tnc, radio, and computer with internet connection, and make a local rf gateway to the internet spotting network. No expensive and hard to configure node software. No databases to maintain. No user's to help out. no extra drivers to load. Just a simple gateway from a serial tnc to the internet. Use it to cover remote areas without enough users for their own node. Use it on an alternate frequency to reduce congestion. Replace 3rd party kiss mode tnc drivers with a program that can be started and stopped independent of your node software. The only drawback... i only have kpc3+ tnc's here to test it with. I expect it will work with any single port kantronics tnc that supports the streamsw mechanism for tracking input streams. But i would like some help testing it and figuring out what settings may be needed on other tnc's. If you have some time and want to help out with some early testing i will mail you the link to download the software for testing. If you have a dual port kantronics tnc i would like to know how it handles switching ports and streams. If you have other brand tnc's, how do they handle presenting multiple incoming connection streams to the computer?? - -- David Robbins K1TTT e-mail: mailto://k1ttt@berkshire.net web: http://www.berkshire.net/~robbins/k1ttt.html or http://www.k1ttt.net AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://k1ttt.net - -- YCCC on WWW: http://www.yccc.org Submissions: yccc@yccc.org Administrative requests: yccc-REQUEST@yccc.org Problems: owner-yccc@yccc.org ------- End of Forwarded Message --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 21 10:16:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA21024 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:16:52 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Reply-To: gregg.wonderly@pobox.com Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7G middle of atlantic In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:30:59 +0000. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:06:42 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Gregg G. Wonderly" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <16400.966870402@skymaster.c2-tech.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >The radio gets the lat/long from the GPS and operates properly for=20 >some time, from minutes to hours then it stops having updating your >position then it goes to lat/long 00.00/00.00. I have tried several >varaints of APRS+ but it doesn't change things.=20 To reiterate some experiences I posted before... The GPS setting must be set to "NMEA" at power up, or you must power cycle it after you change from "not used" to "NMEA". Otherwise, the POS button shows 00 00.00/00 00.00 with flashing dots, and will beacon this location. When I take the HT into the house, and hook it up to my base antenna, I change from NMEA to Not Used and beacon the last position I locked into position-1 before removing the radio from the vehicle. So, when I put it back into the car, I always power cycle it one more time after I have everything hooked to it, and I never have problems with the GPS data flowing (as long as the radio and GPS have a commom power supply, see next...). I am using the Rand McNally GPS, and when I power the GPS from a different power supply than the radio, the Radio will not read GPS data. This indicates that the Radio, serial ground and the GPS serial ground are not common to the power ground. However, I have checked this. I moved the GPS to a case that I could power it from 12 V in the car, cut the wires off etc. I specifically wired it for a common ground. ----- gregg@c2-tech.com (C2 Technologies Inc) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 21 11:00:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA00674 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:59:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "John Gorkos \(KB5HHR\)" , "Jeff Brenton" Subject: [htaprs] RE: [aprssig] Re: Solar Powered Digis Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:59:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Jeff, John and group, I live off grid and have for 12 years now. Your analysis was right on the money and I agree with most of what you said EXCEPT the part about sizing the array to recharge in one solar day ... I would be more likely to agree (though not be quite so generous 100 watts absolute max) if it were to be located on a remote mountain top snowed in 6 months a year. Depending on the site for specifics, I would go for a little more battery and a little less PV array. This also makes life easier on the solar controller not spending long hours needlessly dumping power and generating wasted heat (and most of it in the months where you do not need itor want it!). Also less boiling off of the electrolyte. My general recommendation would be something like - a pair of Trojan T-105s (6VDC @220AH) $170.00 (for both) or a Surrette T12-250 (12VDC@250AH) $240.00 - Siemens SP-75 (5 amps peak) photovoltaic panel - $400 or Solarex MX-77 (5 amps peak) PV panel $450 (???) [in a harsh environ i.e. wind, hail, etc Solarex is THE choice] - Trace C-8 solar controller $60 Plus a housing for the battery to keep it from freezing if its gonna be in a cold weather climate in winter. (buried and insulated would be best) 73 de brian -- N1BQ-3 @ 44 31.73N 072 51.55W WideN-N digi and weather station in Underhill Center, VT > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Brenton > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:10 AM > To: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [aprssig] Re: Solar Powered Digis > > > > Power budget, batteries, etc. > > I suggest you start with a trip to http://www.homepower.com for a look > around. You should also visit http://www.aaasolar.com and order their > "Solar Design Catalog", which has a LOT of design information in it. > > You've already picked one of the better combinations for the > RF side, since > the receive current on the HTX-202 is pretty good, and it is > more efficient > than most on output watts vs. input current. > > A general rule of thumb is to calculate the average current > draw, and size > the battery to be able to handle that draw for 5 days. The > solar array is > then sized to be able to charge the battery from dead in one > AVERAGE solar > day. This will cover 95% of the operational aspects of the system. > > You will, of course, want a good charge controller to protect > the battery > from over charging. And, you might provide for some way to > dissipate excess > power... maybe an amplifier that kicks in whenever the > battery is above 80% > charge, but is shed automatically to extend battery life in > extended bad > weather. > > I ran the math on that exact TNC/radio combination about a > year ago, but > don't have it handy right now. Peak current draw is 1.6 amps, > and a busy > network CAN push you intermittently to a 30% duty cycle. Idle > current is > the key, though, because that's ALWAYS there, even when the > net is quiet. > > Assuming the idle current is .1 amp (it's in the back of the manual), > that's (0.1a*12v*100%) + (1.6*12v*30%)=1.2w + 5.8w=7w AVERAGE > for a BUSY > network. Let's use that as the conservative number... 7 watts over 120 > hours (that 5 days I mentioned) is 840 watt/hours, so a 12v > battery would > need 70 amp/hour capacity. Make sure it REALLY is a > deep-cycle battery, and > not just a "trolling battery", unless you LIKE replacing them often. > > Solar panel should be able to generate most, if not all, of > that 840 watts > in one day. Assuming you average 5 days of sun year round > (you might have > more), you'd want at least a 100 watts of solar panel, > preferably 150 to > 170w. More sun per day, and fewer overcast days, means you > can live with > less panel. At the VERY least, I'd recommend 250 watts divided by your > daily solar average in panels. If you average 7 hours/day, > year-round, a 40 > watt panel is adequate. > > Jeff Brenton > President, > Engineered Software Products, Inc > http://espi.com > Questionable web page: http://dididahdahdidit.com > Northern Illinois APRS Network: http://nian.aprs.net > > My goal in life: To be remembered as someone who always > stated what should have been obvious to everyone in the > first place. > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to aprssig as: brianbr@macconnect.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-aprssig-7389D@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: > wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 21 11:25:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA03700 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:25:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:22:08 -0500 From: Skip Allison Organization: Motorola, Product Programs & Platforms (PPP) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Findu status Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39A15730.9EDED090@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Findu has the wrong status for my tracker. I'm trying to replace the bad status and not having any luck. I programmed a status into my D7 and let it beacon for a while. But the status is not being replaced be what the D7 is sending. Is the status that the D7 sends out not really a status? How do I get the D7 to send a status to replace the bogus status on Findu? Here's what the D7 is sending: K9SA-9>APK001,K9MOT*,WIDE,WIDE:@211656z4211.31N/08804.85Wj000/000/Mic-E/M1/Enroute>Mon 443.575 K9SA-9>APD214,K9MOT*,WIDE,WIDE:=4211.33N/08804.85Wj000/000/Mic-E/M1/Enroute... >Mon 443.575 K9SA-9>APK001,K9MOT,KB9RLQ,K9HGX*:@211658z4211.31N/08804.85Wj000/000/Mic-E/M1/Enroute>Mon 443.575 K9SA-9>APK,APS:@211558z4211.33N/08804.85Wj000/000/TH-D7/M1/ENROUTE>Mon 443.575 By the way, there must be a band opening this morning. I see my digi thru K9MOT is being heard by KB9RLQ in Urbana, Il and K9HGX in northwest China. Skip K9SA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 21 11:35:30 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA06100 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:35:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Peter Anderson To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Privacy Issues Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:33:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On the issue of privacy: Is it possible to send a message to one person only? I was reading the mail and had a thought come to mind. We have had instances in the past for the shelters for American Red Cross that have had to have the message sent via phone so as not to broadcast the message and embarrass the person for any reason. This would include the calling for supplies that might be of a special nature for medical needs or the like. Can anyone enlighten me? Peter Anderson (Tech) Work Phone: (970) 206-8415 Ext:6401 Home Phone: (970) 988-6045 Pager: (970) 278-2631 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 21 15:20:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA14104 for ; Mon, 21 Aug 2000 15:20:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:53:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Curt Mills, WE7U" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD-7G amd winaprs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Fluke Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > its nice to back in the deserts of las vegas instead of the middle of the > atlantic ocean. Something else changed in the network somewhere: I was getting correct latitude but quite a few incorrect longitude positions into findu.com through last thursday. I changed my mobile tracker to relay,trace5-5 mid-day friday to find out who was modifying the packet (putting me into the Atlantic Ocean). Since I went to trace mode though I haven't seen a single errant packet at findu.com (not from my station anyway). Murphy's law I guess. Someone may have just turned off a digipeater, home station, or igate for the weekend, so the problem may reappear. I'm running a TinyTrak, which runs MIC-E format like the MIC-E, PIC-E, Kenwood D7A/D700A and others. I'll run trace mode all this week to see if the problem comes back, but it doesn't appear to be Kenwood-specific. If you're appearing at 0.00/0.00 though that could be a Kenwood-specific problem. In my case someone was converting -121/-122 longitude to -021/-022, but the latitude was still correct. Curt Mills, WE7U hacker.NO_*SPAM@tc.fluke.com Senior Methods Engineer/SysAdmin "Lotto: A tax on people who are bad at math." -- unknown "Windows: Microsoft's tax on computer illiterates." -- WE7U --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 10:01:41 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA00411 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:01:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Bob Gormley To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7/G Guidance Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:00:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <56F9E4591D75D211885500600865B506FCAD19@MAIL.INTELECTINC.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good morning HTAPRS list members, I'm requesting information about the new capabilities of the Kenwood TH-D7/G. A little background first, I'm working on a balloon project in the Dallas area to track the flight of a super pressure, manned, helium balloon. The pilot and crew are all licensed amatuers. The next flight, distance and duration, will take place in the next three to six weeks. Currently, we are using three D7/G radios, one in the balloon and two in the chase vehicles. The unresolved issues are, (1) The D7/G and Garmin III GPS in the balloon will transmit data to the chase vehicles. How does altitude get reported? Will it show on Street Atlas with the balloon position? (2) The two chase vehicles will have notebook pc's running APRS+SA and Garmin GPS units. To track the balloon, the D7/G tnc will be placed in "packet" mode to communicate with with the pc. Can the D7/G be configured to transmit APRS while in packet mode? This will allow the chase vehicles to track each other, plus the balloon. All comments will be greatly appreciated. Bob Gormley WA5YWC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 11:28:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA15284 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:28:55 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Joe B. Dorn" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7/G Guidance Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:03:36 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk APRS +SA has a box to check that allows the ALTITUDE to be displayed. I believe all of the recent Garmin units furnish this information. Just for fun, I have been following a couple of 18 wheelers as they criss-cross the country and I have seen the speed decrease as the altitude increased. You can also get altitude displays from the many digis on the mountain tops of New Mexico... There were (is?) national defense restrictions that prohibited export of units that displayed higher altitudes, I believe 65.000 feet. Most manufacturers caused the GPS unit to stop functioning above that altitude. Joe Dorn, W5VEX, Belton, Texas -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-15400@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-15400@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Bob Gormley Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:01 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7/G Guidance Good morning HTAPRS list members, I'm requesting information about the new capabilities of the Kenwood TH-D7/G. A little background first, I'm working on a balloon project in the Dallas area to track the flight of a super pressure, manned, helium balloon. The pilot and crew are all licensed amatuers. The next flight, distance and duration, will take place in the next three to six weeks. Currently, we are using three D7/G radios, one in the balloon and two in the chase vehicles. The unresolved issues are, (1) The D7/G and Garmin III GPS in the balloon will transmit data to the chase vehicles. How does altitude get reported? Will it show on Street Atlas with the balloon position? (2) The two chase vehicles will have notebook pc's running APRS+SA and Garmin GPS units. To track the balloon, the D7/G tnc will be placed in "packet" mode to communicate with with the pc. Can the D7/G be configured to transmit APRS while in packet mode? This will allow the chase vehicles to track each other, plus the balloon. All comments will be greatly appreciated. Bob Gormley WA5YWC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: joedorn@stonemedia.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 14:47:32 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA22296 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:47:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:40:03 +0000 From: "K.Hirschelmann" X-Accept-Language: de, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Keyboard for D7 and D700 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39A2F333.1A97702D@mainz.netsurf.de> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In this SIG there sometimes was some discussion on remote keyboard ideas for the D700/D7. Maybe it is worth to follow this idea : Sharp is selling $99-organizers named Wizard OZ-750. These small organizers are equipped with full QWERTY-Keyboard and 40 Character x8-Line-Display. A cable for serial PC-Communication ( 9K6,8N2 ) already is included. The Wizard not only can work with it's internally stored Standard-Programs. It also is possible to run ready available or even homemade programs written in Basic. Among those available software there already is an ANSI/VT100-Terminal-Emulation. This should be usable to control our Kenwood-Radios and can be downloaded for free. Until today this only is an idea, but after i have received my organizer, i will start testing and report later. Sharp-Wizard-Homepage : http://www.MyWizard.com 73 de Klaus DJ7OO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 15:13:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA27357 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:13:18 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:11:06 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7/G Guidance Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >There were (is?) national defense restrictions that prohibited export of >units that displayed higher altitudes, I believe 65.000 feet. Most The rule was 60,000 ft AND over Mock 1 So if the GPS programmers had a Fortran and not a Cobol background :-) you are OK if you stay under Mock 1. Best to check and you could get a small number of units without the altitude limit as a special order. The balloon group is starting a new table of which units will work over 60,000 Ft. Tom Clark has posted much info on this to the Tapr APRSSIG and tacgps lists (they both are searchable at www.tapr.org) good key word is 60,000 or 60000 73 -- ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 15:29:26 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA00398 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:29:25 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Dave Flack" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Garmin eTrek Summit and TH-D7G? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:25:34 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001c00c77$205a3c40$a60b1418@snvl1.sfba.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have any first hand experience using the eTrex Summit from Garmin? Does the barometric altimeter produce data output as well as visual on the LCD? Thanks. Dave W6DLF --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 20:27:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA28544 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:27:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] tripmate Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:27:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C00C77.58C7BB20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000e01c00ca1$41f1af80$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C00C77.58C7BB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone been able to make the tripmate work with there thd7g i just = order one from there site and i was waiting for the conformation and = when i went back to the order page it was gone so i guess i will wait a = week to see if it shows up ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C00C77.58C7BB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone been able to make the tripmate work with = there=20 thd7g i just order one from there site and i was waiting for the = conformation=20 and when i went back to the order page it was gone so i guess i will = wait a week=20 to see if it shows up
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C00C77.58C7BB20-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 20:56:47 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA02343 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:56:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Stephen M. King" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Mobile Antenna recommendations for D7 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:55:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03B3_01C00C83.A1E71920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <03b601c00ca5$292b13c0$eb600c18@burl1.nj.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03B3_01C00C83.A1E71920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been using an old MFJ magmount for APRS with a D7. It seems to take quite a robust signal to get a succesful packet decode. Would anyone recommend an antenna that might be helpful that way, i.e., = capturing a bit more signal. What are some of you using???? Thanks in advance.... 73 es Peace, Stephen KD3OG ------=_NextPart_000_03B3_01C00C83.A1E71920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been using an old MFJ magmount = for APRS with=20 a D7.
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73 es Peace,
Stephen
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------=_NextPart_000_03B3_01C00C83.A1E71920-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 21:02:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA02835 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:02:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:00:41 -0500 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7/G Guidance References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39A33049.6BDBEC1B@megsinet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk "Joe B. Dorn" wrote: > > APRS +SA has a box to check that allows the ALTITUDE to be displayed. I > believe all of the recent Garmin units furnish this information. Just for > fun, I have been following a couple of 18 wheelers as they criss-cross the > country and I have seen the speed decrease as the altitude increased. You > can also get altitude displays from the many digis on the mountain tops of > New Mexico... > > There were (is?) national defense restrictions that prohibited export of > units that displayed higher altitudes, I believe 65.000 feet. Most > manufacturers caused the GPS unit to stop functioning above that altitude. > > Joe Dorn, W5VEX, Belton, Texas > Actually, there is no restriction on height display on a GPS receiver. The only restriction is that it not display if the height is over xx feet AND the speed is over yy MPH. (I don't know the exact xx and yy numbers) I assume this to prevent their use on attack aircraft or missles. All GPS receivers I know of will work in a balloon since the speed is much below the yy MPH limit. Skip K9SA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 21:10:53 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA05412 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:10:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] RE: Dedicated APRS LEO bird? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:08:18 -0500 From: "Peter D. Bayne" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200008230208.e7N28wr25831@pearl.mhtc.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob, there is the possibility of overcoming the Doppler effect by means of a dedicated satellite and using 23 cm. for the uplink and 13 cm down. The orbital parameters could rapidly be calculated through a HT microprocessor and the VFO adjusted correspondingly. The yagi antennas could be combined in similar fashion to the Arrow and adjustment made in polarity according to the sig strength. I recall that the beam width with the yagi is fairly wide at 23 cm but I will have to recheck for both bands. According to my experience, beam width does not appear critical on land for contacts of ~ 20 km. but a LEO is a different animal. You have a good point but perhaps one that can be overcome in practice. The 13 cm. yagi (known as the 'long John') is even more portable than the 23 cm unit. I have tried to interest Allan Lowe in building a dual band prototype since their construction is fairly involved--close tolerances and machine shop capability--that the project should be done professionally. Next we need a dual band HT (hopefully SSB) with a TNC for high speed packet, perhaps as high as 200K bps. The 23 cm part of it is in hand, albeit FM, but the 13 cm half should be doable considering the progress in microwave component technology. At any rate, my thoughts on the future. Peter de WK9K >On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Peter D. Bayne wrote: > >> Bob et al, actually not only are there 23 cm handhelds but the 16 element >> yagi's can be easily handheld as well... > >Thanks, if the 16 ele yagi has 16 dBd gain then I calculate that 1W >on 23cm and that antenna will be equivalent to about 4 watts and the 7 >element ARROW antenna on 70 cm. Assuming equivalent antennas on the bird. > >The noticible difference however will be the almost 50 KHz (10 steps) >worth of doppler AND the beamwidth will be less than half as wide meaning >much harder to point. > >Hummh... > >Bob > > Peter D. Bayne ARS WK9K 605 Maiden Street Mineral Point, WI 53565 USA Grid: EN42vu AMSAT Member No.: 32904 e-mail: WK9K@AMSAT.org Voice: (608) 987-4324 Fax: (503) 210-6618 Packet: WK9K@WD9ESU.wi.us.na --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 22 21:31:10 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA08251 for ; Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:31:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Mike Edwards" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "Kenwood Customer Care" Subject: [htaprs] MCP-D7G Bug? Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:31:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000901c00caa$46763720$7c03d0d1@mike> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk CC'ed to the address that Kenwood Customer Care used to post to the SIG. Think I may have discovered a bug in the Memory Control Program tonite. I finished making my homemade D7-to-PC cable tonight and fired up MCP. I had used it before with my GPS cable and a nullmodem adapter so i'm familiar with the program. I was looking through the menus of data it retrieved from the radio after performing a Read and noticed: MSG GROUP: ALL,QST,CQ,KWD However, I have "*," included in my msg groups on the radio. A bug that MCP missed that? Perhaps.. But I thought it was worth mentioning. p.s. running MCP-D7G Beta Version 0.10 here, latest version available to my knowledge. Later! Mike KE4YGT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 23 08:15:06 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA06306 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Daniel \(internet\) Lavoie" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] FM Satellites communications Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:07:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000601c00d03$18064160$0d0aa8c0@sawmillcreek.local> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Yesterday I received my flashed TH-D7(G) in the mail. The fisrt thing I tried was to setup a channel for UO-14 and one for AO-27 with a UHF uplink and a VHF downlink. I couldn't do it! I was under the impression that the (G) upgrade could do UHF and VHF splits on band B. How do you guys do it for FM satellites voice and data? Thanks Daniel VE3DCL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 23 08:38:20 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA09439 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:38:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:36:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Antenna recommendations for D7 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 22 Aug 2000, Stephen M. King wrote: > I have been using an old MFJ magmount for APRS with a D7. > It seems to take quite a robust signal to get a succesful packet decode. The problem is not the antenna, but the station that you are listening too. It does not have its packet TONES adjusted properly or its TNC is over driving the mic-amp. A D7 will decode properly adjusted packets down to only a single LCD S-unit... and even with NO s-units showing. Problem is, that most packet signals on the air were never adjusted properly. Transmitting PACKET is not plug-n-play. Connecting a TNC to a radio requires 1) Adjusting TX Audio levels below clipping in the transmitter, and maybe the addition of an R/C circuit to either enhance or roll off the high tone so that the result is balanced. Look on a scope and you will see some terrible packet signals Unfortunately the fix requires the *other* guy to fix his signal... :-( Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 23 10:18:44 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA01259 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:18:42 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:00:13 -0400 Subject: [htaprs] Re: tripmate From: "Dennis Hudson, N2LBT" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Yes, I have never heard of anyone not able to make it work. I have been using mine with my D700 for 9 months with no trouble at all. You will have to add the "autostart" mod, and if you wish to power it externally you will have come up with 5-6 volts or add some sort of voltage regulator. You will also have to deal with the mini gps plug to DB-9. Here are some links on the variations of modifying the tripmate, including cramming the regulator into a D-Sub connector which I like this the best. I run mine continuously so I decided to mount the regulator inside and heat sink it to the metal case inside. http://www.netrax.net/~bbarnhart/aprs/tripmate.html http://www.execpc.com/~n9uur/tripmate.html http://www.qsl.net/kd4rdb/tripmate.htm Good luck, I'm sure if you have questions about setting this up there are lots of folks willing to help you out here. Dennis, N2LBT BTW you might want to consider turning off your HTML in your email program. Some folks with text based email readers find this offensive. See the link below for assistance with this if using Microsoft Outlook. http://www.pocketaprs.com/outlook.html > From: "bdevine" > Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:27:09 -0500 > To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" > Subject: [htaprs] tripmate > > Has anyone been able to make the tripmate work with there thd7g i just order > one from there site and i was waiting for the conformation and when i went > back to the order page it was gone so i guess i will wait a week to see if it > shows up > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 23 12:06:01 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA26084 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:06:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:35:23 +0200 From: Peter ZR5DWC Subject: [htaprs] APRS CE???? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Reply-to: Peter ZR5DWC Message-id: Organization: ZR5DWC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003401c00d20$5a6a3bc0$f0231ec4@paul> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Is the new ver. of APRS CE out yet? I do miss it. Cheers Peter --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 24 00:26:29 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA28819 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:26:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: 24 Aug 2000 05:24:33 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS CE???? Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <704C93F95FE25243> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id AAA28819 >Is the new ver. of APRS CE out yet? I do miss it. Why won't the old versions still work? I know they are set to time out on certain dates, but how do they know the date? The system clock on the HPC? Why not set the clock back to a date when the timed out version you have worked and see what happens? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 24 00:28:06 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA28854 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:28:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: 24 Aug 2000 05:24:40 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: nickle metal pb-39 maha Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <704C9476E28B0715> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id AAA28854 >i got the nickle metal maha pb-39 for the kenwood thd7g >i have the bc-19 charger.... >when i put the nickle metal into the charger its always >flashing red on the charger.... The way I heard it, NiMH batteries damage drop in NiCad chargers if you leave them unmonitored... When I find it necessary to speed charge my PB-39 in my BC-19 I drop it in for only 10 minutes at a time, 10-20 off to allow the cell and charger to cool off, then repeat until the red light changes to green. At that point it is more or less a slow or trickle charge and is not taxing to the cell or the charger, if indeed there ever was any danger. The way I figure it, an ounce of prevention is better than a house full of smoke... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 24 08:22:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA23656 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:22:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Rob Wittner" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRS/CE Update (New Build) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:20:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk A new build of APRS/CE is available for download. Please check http://www.tapr.org/~aprsce/ . This is build 777, and it will expire on October 31, 2000. A few "nuisance" or bug fixes have made it in this build, but not many. I have devoted most of my APRS/CE energy to getting a native Pocket PC version to work. (Hey, I have a new iPaq, and wanted a native version to play with myself. ;-) Getting the code tweaked for Pocket PC (3.0), without breaking 2.0, 2.01, and 2.11 machines has been a challenge. The Pocket PC OS is nice and stable, but sometimes you have to do a serious amount of mining in the developer documentation to find what you are looking for. The good thing about getting the Pocket PC conversion and build process working correctly is that newer versions with more bug fixes and added features will be able to be built in a relatively short amount of time. I have eliminated the "unknown quantity" problems that are always present with a new OS. Please download this new version when you can, and let me know if I've managed to break any of the existing platforms. (I wish I could own an example of *every* platform, but my last name isn't Rockefeller. ;-) Thanks for all of your positive feedback, continued interest and support. It makes it all worthwhile! 73 -Rob KZ5RW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 24 13:43:54 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA13033 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:43:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:47:52 +0100 Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS/CE Update (New Build) From: Carl Littlejohns Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hooray! wtg Rob Carl gw0tqm --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 24 14:57:07 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA23190 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:57:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:01:18 +0100 Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] PocketPC and Amateur radio From: Carl Littlejohns Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Having had some time to play with my Cassiopeia E115 I can think of lots of amateur radio uses - although APRS is a cool one. Thanks Rob. Would there be any interest in a pocket pc ham radio group for discussing pocket pcs, beta software etc away from the mainstream? My Psion 3a/c has been very useful in lots of areas of the hobby - but whereas the PocketPc is several orders of magnitude more powerful its also a lot more difficult to write simple software utilities for it. We need to share ideas I think? Carl GW0TQM If you fancy a go, Ive JUST created the following email list:- http://www.egroups.com/subscribe/hampocket --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 25 17:46:45 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA22681 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:46:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] thd7g Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:46:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000f01c00ee6$4739a140$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk i got my tripmate all running and self starting what do i need to do to get it working with the ht --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Aug 25 22:42:41 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA06105 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:42:37 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kc5ejk@mailhost.onramp.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:42:26 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7g Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >i got my tripmate all running and self starting what do i need to do to get >it working with the ht 0. connect the GPS output to a comm programs and see if you are getting real NMEA data 1. Do the test outside so you know you have sat lock 2. might take 10 min plus to get a lock. 2.1 test with a voltmeter 3. Connect the ground o fthe tripmate to the ground of the d7a GPS port. 3.1 test with a voltmeter 4. Connectthe The NMEA data out for the Tripmate to the gps data in of the D7a (picture in the manual) 4.1 test with a voltmeter 6. read the d7a manual on the correct buttons to push to activate and select gps gps input. Would help to know if you are doing a standalone setup or using a computer. ie you have the D7a in APRS mode or PACKET mode. See the www.Tap.orgr searchable sig mail archive if this help tag is taking to long to get the answers you need. 73 -- ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 27 00:51:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA22447 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 01:57:12 -0400 From: Dewey Bryant KD4EHC Organization: Hamilton County, TN ARES EC X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: DEWEY BRYANT KD4EHC , Jonathan Guy KE4AIK , Mad Max , Mike Fawbush KF4JOZ , Allison McAfee , "Phillip T. Verble KF4MCD" , Rick Willis , CHRIS PALMGREN W4ORS , DEWEY BRYANT KD4EHC , Jim Myers KG4AQW , Jonathan Guy KE4AIK , Mad Max , Matthew Sadler KF4LHP , John Pless KG4POD - TV9 , TV 12 - WDEF Newsroom , TV 3 - WRCB Newsroom , TV 61 - FOXNEWS Subject: [htaprs] on the road again.......,.,,. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39A8ADB8.8F2B7D86@bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ms 150 bike ride sat sept 9 - chattanooga to sweetwater sun sept 10 - sweetwater to chattanooga APRS experience & participation continues to grow. it's not hamradio, it's funradio!!!!!!!! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 27 12:20:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA17722 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:20:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] bicycle sunday Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:22:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003201c0104b$553b11a0$e4ba31cf@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk heading out on my bicycle and gps at 10 30 sunday las vegas if you want to track me kd8s-14 73 find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only if i am sending my position out and in satellite range --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 27 21:35:05 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA07143 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:35:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:34:41 Subject: [htaprs] Move Over Kenwood: ICOM Has Acquired Micrologic (Developer Of LoJack)!!! To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk FYI. ICOM announced on Friday, August 25, that they have acquired Micrologic (www.micrologic.com). These are the guys that developed the LoJack system! As tremendous as the D7 and D700 products are (and Kenwood deserves a ton of credit for being there FIRST), competition is the American way. I see this as a double good whammie: We will have the Number One Big Boy waking up and smelling the (APRS) coffee, and we will hopefully have an entirely new plethora of software, I would guess fully integrated from the git-go. If you check out micrologic's web site, you will see that they are real pros when it comes to software applications, which is what we want! Keep in mind that ICOM has made no announcements as to products---I am speculating, and this is purely my opinion. But, come on now---ICOM's bread and butter is the Ham market, not the commercial side. Two and two is pretty easy to add up, especially as they see the success of the D7 and D700 and they have nothing to respond with. Moreover, think of the leverage they could now have with their display screen technology they have already developed on their IC-2800 mobile, as well as their new portable scanner. These would be great for displaying APRS icons, and the like. Now, can they have a handheld, base and mobile, all with built in GPS and integrated software, in time for Christmas 2000?! Lary --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 27 21:38:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA08319 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:38:29 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:38:23 Subject: [htaprs] Move Over Kenwood: ICOM Has Acquired Micrologic (Developer Of LoJack)!!! To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk FYI. ICOM announced on Friday, August 25, 2000 that they have acquired the assets of Micrologic (www.micrologic.com). These are the guys that developed the LoJack system! As tremendous as the D7 and D700 products are (and Kenwood deserves a ton of credit for being there FIRST), competition is the American way. I see this as a double good whammie: We will have the Number One Big Boy waking up and smelling the (APRS) coffee, and we will hopefully have an entirely new plethora of software, I would guess fully integrated from the git-go. If you check out Micrologic's web site, you will see that they are real pros when it comes to software applications, which is what we want! Keep in mind that ICOM has made no announcements as to products---I am speculating, and this is purely my opinion. But, come on now---ICOM's bread and butter is the Ham market, not the commercial side. Two and two is pretty easy to add up, especially as they see the success of the D7 and D700, and they currently have nothing on the market to respond with. Moreover, think of the leverage they could now have with their display screen technology they have already developed on their IC-2800 mobile, as well as their new portable scanner. These would be great for displaying APRS icons, and the like. Now, can they have a handheld, base and mobile, all with built in GPS and integrated software, in time for Christmas 2000?! If not, I'm booking my reservations for Dayton 2001!! Lary --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 27 22:40:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA14250 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:39:58 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:39:43 Subject: [htaprs] Keyboard For D700? To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: "Larry Zanella" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Late last Spring, there was a fair amount of posts here concerning the possibilty of a keyboard for the D700. Has any progress been made? I saw a recent post here concerning a small handheld calculator assembly that might be able to work. However, I thought the idea was a dedicated keyboard, hopefully backlit, and attaching it to the serial input of the radio. Perhaps a bigger display, also? I have 3 D700s---one in each of my 2 vehicles, plus one in my den as my APRS base. I'd buy 3 keyboards in a second. I suspect many Hams that use the D700 have more than one, and would also love to have a keyboard. Is there any way that TAPR could develop a keyboard for commercial sale? How about a bigger dispaly that would be integrated with such a keyboard that would be small enough to mount in a vehicle, yet allow a decent amount of text to be read and keyed in? Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Aug 27 22:53:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA15895 for ; Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:53:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:52:27 -0500 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: bicycle sunday References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39A9E1FB.20CF4F69@megsinet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Looks like you only made it about 5 miles. By the way, you're showing a motorcycle icon. The D7 sends the wrong icon for a bicycle. To get the real bicycle icon you have to select OTHERS /b. I was out on my bike today too - k9sa-4 Skip K9SA STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > > heading out on my bicycle and gps at 10 30 sunday las vegas if you want to > track me > > kd8s-14 > > 73 > find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.findu.com/kd8s-7 works only > if i am sending my position out and in satellite range > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 28 09:13:17 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA00268 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:13:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Peter Anderson To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Question for the group Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:12:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01C010F9.F6F8DE60" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C010F9.F6F8DE60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C010F9.F6F8DE60" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C010F9.F6F8DE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK her is a probley simple question for the group, does the GPS have to be plugged in to the D700? I have a product called the Road Writer http://www.revolvedesign.com/producthome.html and was just curious if the GPS had to be run into the D700 or could I run it into the back of the road Writer to have it work> If anyone has insight on this send me a mil off the list. Peter It's alright to talk to yourself. It's even alright to answer yourself. It only becomes a problem if you're talking to yourself and you go "Huh? What did you say?" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C010F9.F6F8DE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
OK her is a probley simple question for the group, does the GPS have to be plugged in to the D700?  I have a product called the Road Writer http://www.revolvedesign.com/producthome.html and was just curious if the GPS had to be run into the D700 or could I run it into the back of the road Writer to have it work>  If anyone has insight on this send me a mil off the list.
 
Peter
 
 
It's alright to talk to yourself.  It's even alright to answer yourself. It only becomes a problem if you're talking to yourself and you go "Huh?  What did you say?"
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Does anyone know more about this? Just a comment after some days of trying, the GPSIII plus is a very nice unit, and its accuarcy is fascinating. But the built in maps are really bad, at least in my region (Austria). That is why I would like to make things with another map. 73! Werner OE9FWV Thought for the day: Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people that they are right, whether they are or not. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 28 10:17:12 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA10152 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 10:17:09 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:24:26 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "Schulman, Alan" Reply-To: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Maps for GPSIIIplus List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200008280924.AA615645448@mail.webaccess.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Werner: For maps that cost money you can go to http://www.garmin.com/cartography/mapSource/ and note that the GPS III+ will use the Roads and Recreation CDs, not the Metro Guides. If there are other sources than I am sure interested too. Alan n4lbl ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Reply-to: furlan@gmx.net Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:53:35 +0200 >hello, > >I have a new Garmin GPS III plus, and I heard the rumour, that there is >a possibility to download maps for this device from the internet. >Does anyone know more about this? > >Just a comment after some days of trying, the GPSIII plus is a very >nice unit, and its accuarcy is fascinating. But the built in maps are >really bad, at least in my region (Austria). That is why I would like >to make things with another map. > >73! >Werner >OE9FWV > > > > >Thought for the day: > Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people > that they are right, whether they are or not. > >-- >PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc >SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at >Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n4lbl@arrl.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org >Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 28 21:14:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA20360 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:14:38 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:12:58 +0000 Subject: [htaprs] ANNOUNCEMENT: ARRL/TAPR 19th Annual DCC Sep. 22-24 From: Stan Horzepa To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Notice: September 1, 2000 is the last day to receive the special hotel room rate of $89/night single or double and the pre-registration price for the conference. ARRL and TAPR 19th Annual Digital Communications Conference September 22-24, 2000 - Orlando, Florida For more information see: http://www.tapr.org/dcc Information Mark your calendar and start making plans to attend the year's premier event in digital communications. The 19th Annual ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference will be held September 22-24, 2000, in Orlando, Florida - just minutes from the Orlando International Airport. The ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference is an international forum for radio amateurs in digital communications, networking, and related technologies to meet, publish their work, and present new ideas and techniques for discussion. Presenters and attendees will have the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn about recent hardware and software advances, theories, experimental results, and practical applications. The Digital Communications Conference is not just for the digital expert, but also for digitally oriented amateurs of all levels of experience. A Conference for the Beginner as well The conference is not just for the digital expert. As in years past an entire session strand with beginning, intermediate, and advanced presentations on selected topics in digital communications will be offered. Some of the topics will include: APRS, Satellite Communications, TCP/IP, Digital Radio, Spread Spectrum and other introductory topics. Come to the conference and hear these topics presented by the experts! Area Attractions The Orlando Florida area is famous for its attractions and vacation spots. Disney World, Universal Studios, and Sea World (just to name a few) are within 15 minutes of the hotel. Shuttle service from the hotel will be available for a small fee. Cape Canaveral and Cocoa Beach are a 30 minute drive East of the hotel. Symposia, Seminars and Banquet Two symposia/seminars will be held which allow those with additional time and interest to make the most of the Conference. For those who may have interest in just one symposium or seminar, registration for the conference is not required to attend these activities. This allows maximum flexibility for those who may want to participate during the Digital Communications Conference, but do not have an entire weekend to devote to the event. The Fourth APRS National Symposium will be held on Friday and will be moderated by Steve Dimse, K4HG (the developer of javAPRS). It will likely include many APRS software authors, such as Bob Bruninga, WB4APR (the father ofAPRS), Keith Sproul, WU2Z, Mark Sproul, KB2ICI (the developers of MacAPRS and WinAPRS), Brent Hildebrand, KH2Z (the developer of APRSPLUS), Mike Musick, N0QBF (developer of PocketAPRS), and other nationally known APRS leaders. Join this group for the afternoon and evening for in-depth discussions and presentations on the current and future status of APRS. This is a unique opportunity to gain insight into this fast-growing digital aspect of amateur operations that combines computers, packet radio, and GPS (Global Positioning System). On Saturday night the DCC Banquet will be held. A guest speaker will speak after the banquet and a prize drawing will top the evening. The Grand Prize is a Palm VII Personal Digital Assistant and Synergy Systems LLC has donated two M12 development kits and many more. The Sunday morning seminar will be focused on PIC development, design, and programming. This five-and-a-half hour seminar will focus on the things you need to know now in order to understand and begin to participate in PIC development. Co-Hosts The 2000 ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference local co-hosts will be: Lake Monroe Amateur Radio Society (http://www.qsl.net/lmars/), Orange County ARES/RACES (http://evcom.net/~jvoisin/ares.htm), Seminole County ARES/RACES (http://wwww.geocities.com/capecanaveral/launchpad/4773), and Orlando Amateur Radio Club (http://www.oarc.org/). International Co-Hosts PRUG (Packet Radio User Group of Japan) will be the International co-host for a third year running. PRUG will be hosting an informal social Friday evening before their seminar and symposium is held. Visit http://www.prug.or.jp for more information about PRUG. Hotel Conference presentations, meetings, and seminars will be held at the Orlando Airport Marriott. It is highly recommended that you book your room prior to arriving. A special DCC room rate of $89/single and $89/double per night has been blocked for 50 rooms and is available until September 1st, 2000. Once the 50 rooms have been reserved, room rates will increase. So be sure to book your rooms early! The hotel provides transportation to and from the Orlando International Airport. Please contact the hotel to arrange specific transportation needs. Orlando Airport Marriott (conference hotel) 7499 Augusta Drive Orlando, FL 32822 Phone 407-851-9000, Fax 407-857-6211 (http://marriotthotels.com/MCOAP/) What you can expect at DCC 2000 - A full day of papers and breakouts for the beginner to the advanced - Two seminars/symposiums - The fifth annual Student Paper session. - A banquet with Special Guest Speaker. - Informal get-togethers throughout the weekend. - TAPR Membership Meeting - An event at which the most important new developments in amateur digital communications are announced. - Digital 'movers and shakers' from all over the world in attendance. There are few activities where your participation can be so much fun and important! What a great way to share and renew your enthusiasm for digital amateur radio! A get-together with colleagues and bringing each other up to date on your latest work -- all this, and more, for an unforgettable weekend of amateur radio and digital communications. We hope to see you at the ARRL and TAPR Digital Communications Conference on September 22-24, 2000! Full information on the conference and hotel information can be obtained by contacting: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Phone: (940) 383-0000. Fax: (940) 566-2544 Email: tapr@tapr.org Web: http://www.tapr.org Registration Form Contact the TAPR office by Phone 940-383-0000, Fax 940-566-2544, or Internet: http://www.tapr.org and tapr@tapr.org to register or for additional information. Conference Registration includes: Conference Proceedings, Sessions, Meetings, and Lunch on Saturday. - Pre-Registration (before Sept 1st) $45.00 ______ - Registration (after Sept 1) or at door $55.00 ______ - Saturday Evening Dinner (Limited Space) Dinner with Guest Speaker Prize Drawing $30.00 ______ Symposia/Seminars - 4th Annual APRS National Symposium Friday, 1pm - 7pm. $25.00 ______ - Sunday Seminar PIC Design, Development, and Programming Sunday, 8:30 am - 2 pm. $20.00 ______ TOTAL ______ Name/Call: Street Address: City/State/Zip: Country: Phone Number: Email: Charge my credit card (circle one): VISA MasterCard Acct: Expiration Date: Signature on card: Mail completed registration form with check to: TAPR 8987-309 E Tanque Verde Rd #3378 Tucson, AZ 85749-9399 Or check http://www.tapr.org/dcc for an on-line registration form. A registration packet will be mailed in September upon receipt of registration form and payment. --- You are currently subscribed to dsp as: SRBIBLE@GATE.NET To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-dsp-3222B@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Aug 28 22:08:34 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA26974 for ; Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:08:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] thd7g Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:07:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002201c01166$3e8035a0$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I am playing with the radio and have hooked up my sharps hc4100 to the data jack and it works fine 2nd i have a tripmate that has the mods done to self start and it is sending out it requierd information it works with aprs ce and my posit shows up on my map. Now for the problem when i hook up the tripmate to the radio and tell the software to get data from tnc it will not get any the adapter i have made up using ground and tip it is only a 2 wire plug 2.5 mm is it possible that i have the adapter wired wrong or wrong plug it is not shorting out or is the receive data line the second pin on the stero plug any body got any ideas i am bout out of them --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 29 01:43:59 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id BAA25586 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:43:57 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: kc5ejk@mailhost.onramp.net Message-Id: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 01:46:49 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7g List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Now for the problem when i hook up the tripmate to the radio and tell the >software to get data from tnc it will not get any the adapter i have made >up using ground and tip it is only a 2 wire plug 2.5 mm is it possible that >i have the adapter wired wrong or wrong plug it is not shorting out or is >the receive data line the second pin on the stero plug any body got any >ideas i am bout out of them > > there are only 2 wires (other than ground ) and the transmit wire on BOTH units is the one that wags the voltmeter. Just don't connect two wiggly wires together. 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 29 06:39:31 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA29601 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:39:30 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:39:02 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: Maps for GPSIIIplus To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Dr Werner, There is a program called Mapsource which you can purchase and with it you can upload maps to your GPS. There are at least two CDs available now, one is the US Road and Recreation, and the other is the world. I have both, and the one for the US is fairly comprehensive, and the one for the world, which is just major roads. Both CDs are available from Garmin. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > hello, > > I have a new Garmin GPS III plus, and I heard the rumour, that there is > a possibility to download maps for this device from the internet. > Does anyone know more about this? > > Just a comment after some days of trying, the GPSIII plus is a very > nice unit, and its accuarcy is fascinating. But the built in maps are > really bad, at least in my region (Austria). That is why I would like > to make things with another map. > > 73! > Werner > OE9FWV > > > > > Thought for the day: > Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people > that they are right, whether they are or not. > > -- > PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc > SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at > Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 29 06:47:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA00998 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:47:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:47:53 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] KPC-4 For Sale (Need $$$ FOR SHELBY HF!) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Kantronics KPC-4 Dual Port Communicator TNC for sale! This is a dual port TNC capable of 1200BPS per port simultaneously. Has 5.0 chip in it. I have ALL manuals for it. Great for MIC-E, etc. *PLEASE E-MAIL ME DIRECTLY!* First come First serve! Headed for Shelby HF this weekend and would like to have it sold by then. Can deliver to Shelby HF in North Carolina if you are headed that way! Price is $130. Thanks & 73... Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.Net N4WYK@AMSAT.Org N4WYK@ARRL.Net WORK - Tiltonr@nationwide.com Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: http://web.infoave.net/~n4wyk --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 29 06:57:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA01744 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 06:57:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dr. Werner Furlan" Organization: OE9FWV To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:53:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Maps for GPSIIIplus Reply-to: furlan@gmx.net CC: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Message-ID: Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39ABC056.2412.48B908E@localhost> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk hi John, thank you for reply, the Garmin Maps I knew already. But they are very expensive and for the region I live I need 3 map CD's to cover a square of 50km. They sell the CD for each country separately and thats not very nice for me. If I could get a map for whole Europe on a CD like you for the US, I would probably buy it, but thats not the case. Imagine you would have to buy a CD for each federal state in the U.S. My impression is that they try to make money with bad maps in the Garmin and good ones they sell at a high price. 73! Werner OE9FWV On 29 Aug 2000, at 7:39, John W Wilson wrote: > Dr Werner, > There is a program called Mapsource which you can purchase and with it > you can upload maps to your GPS. There are at least two CDs available > now, one is the US Road and Recreation, and the other is the world. I > have both, and the one for the US is fairly comprehensive, and the one > for the world, which is just major roads. Both CDs are available from > Garmin. > > > John W. Wilson, KN4HX > z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us > > > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Dr. Werner Furlan wrote: > > > hello, > > > > I have a new Garmin GPS III plus, and I heard the rumour, that there > > is a possibility to download maps for this device from the internet. > > Does anyone know more about this? > > > > Just a comment after some days of trying, the GPSIII plus is a very > > nice unit, and its accuarcy is fascinating. But the built in maps are > > really bad, at least in my region (Austria). That is why I would like > > to make things with another map. > > > > 73! > > Werner > > OE9FWV > > > > > > > > > > Thought for the day: > > Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people > > that they are right, whether they are or not. > > > > -- > > PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc > > SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at > > Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to > > the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: furlan@gmx.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org Thought for the day: Intuition (n): an uncanny sixth sense which tells people that they are right, whether they are or not. -- PGP-Key: http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/oe9fwv.asc SMS: +436646340014@text.mobilkom.at Powered by Pegasus Mail - free at www.pmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 29 07:05:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA02283 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 07:05:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:06:07 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] KPC-4 For Sale (Need $$$ FOR SHELBY HF!) To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Kantronics KPC-4 Dual Port Communicator TNC for sale! This is a dual port TNC capable of 1200BPS per port simultaneously. Has 5.0 chip in it. I have ALL manuals for it. Great for MIC-E, etc. *PLEASE E-MAIL ME DIRECTLY!* First come First serve! Headed for Shelby HF this weekend and would like to have it sold by then. Can deliver to Shelby HF in North Carolina if you are headed that way! Price is $130. Thanks & 73... Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.Net N4WYK@AMSAT.Org N4WYK@ARRL.Net WORK - Tiltonr@nationwide.com Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: http://web.infoave.net/~n4wyk --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 29 13:01:40 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA17064 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:01:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Originating-IP: [209.204.136.119] From: "Mark Pedroia - KF6TYS" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Garmin 12XL Accuracy Report - Post SA Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:00:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C011A8.49DD6D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2000 18:00:19.0965 (UTC) FILETIME=[FEB0BAD0:01C011E2] List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C011A8.49DD6D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GPS & APRS users may find this article interesting. Enjoy, Mark Pedroia KF6TYS Garmin 12XL Accuracy Report - Post SA=20 Last updated on August 3, 2000 comments to = John Bonde=20 With the elimination of the largest single error source from the GPS = system civilian=20 users have seen a dramatic increase in accuracy from their receivers. = Just how=20 accurate can a receiver costing less than $200 US be? Of course, the = answer is=20 "It depends". Assuming a clear view of the sky atmospheric errors will = tend to cause=20 the biggest problems. Complicating matters are that not all areas of = the earth are=20 affected equally and that relatively rare events may cause large errors. = Click here to continue http://sparkie.nrri.umn.edu/saoff/intro.html ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C011A8.49DD6D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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   With the elimination of the largest single error source = from the=20 GPS system civilian
users have seen a dramatic increase in accuracy = from=20 their receivers.  Just how
accurate can a receiver costing less = than=20 $200 US be?   Of course, the answer is
"It depends".  = Assuming a clear view of the sky atmospheric errors will tend to cause =
the=20 biggest problems.  Complicating matters are that not all areas of = the earth=20 are
affected equally and that relatively rare events may cause large = errors.=20

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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C011A8.49DD6D40-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Aug 29 21:25:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA01427 for ; Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:25:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] tripmate Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 21:20:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009201c01228$ea4ed2c0$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED MADE CABLE WRONG FOR GPS USED PIN 2 NOT PIN 3 WHACK IT OFF AND AM MAKING NEW ONE THANK ALL OF YOU VERY MUCH 73 KB9LNC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 30 13:08:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA16360 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 13:08:01 -0500 (CDT) From: "Rob Wittner" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRS/CE Build 806 Available Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:06:40 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk APRS/CE Build 806 is available! Please check http://www.tapr.org/~aprsce/ . This fixes a few minor Pocket PC issues: - The toolbar background now repaints correctly, eliminating BitBlt "droppings" on the unused portion of the bar. - The splash dialog now has a border around it so it's visible on top of the startup map. It also provides instructions to "Tap here to close this window" - Probably the most helpful change, and the whole reason I released this, is that the status bar has been re-added to the Pocket PC version. This will help to get serial connections debugged, as you can now watch the serial (and/or network) traffic on the bottom of your screen. Build 777 is still available, in case there are problems with 806. Please download and let me know your successes and/or trials. Thanks, -Rob KZ5RW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 30 14:39:39 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA07537 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:39:33 -0500 (CDT) Comments: SoVerNet Verification (on garnet.sover.net) Phmose from arc3a143.bf.sover.net [209.198.115.144] 209.198.115.144 Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:38:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "Henry Moseley" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Palm IIIxe Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 15:36:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002301c012b9$89cc6f20$9073c6d1@Phmose> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does any know whether Palm Sat Tracker and/or PalmAPRS, will run on the new, inexpensive, PalmIIIxe??? Henry KA1RRT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 30 16:49:29 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA27499 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 16:49:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:47:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher McNabb To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" cc: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: Palm IIIxe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I use a PalmIIIxe with a D700, Pharos GPS, and PalmAPRS. Works fine. On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Henry Moseley wrote: > Does any know whether Palm Sat Tracker and/or PalmAPRS, will run on the new, > inexpensive, PalmIIIxe??? > > Henry > KA1RRT > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: cmcnabb@4mcnabb.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 30 19:55:58 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA29877 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:55:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "bdevine" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: "Bob Bruninga" , , "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] global call for help Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:54:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <008001c012e6$08daa9e0$0100a8c0@mshome.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk here is the problem i have a th-d7 g version tripmate gps with self start mod done. it is putting data out on pin 2 the data cable for the gps jack is hook up pin 2 to ring . gps has lock still doswnt show position. gps show my posit on ui view waprs wince aprs . MY QUESTION IS SHOULD I SEND THE RADIO BACK TO GET LOOKED AT OR SET IT ON THE FENCE POST AND USE IT FOR TRAGET PRACTICE .. BANG >>> ! >>>BANG [] NO HT NO PROBLEM NO JUST KIDDING BOUT READY TO PACK IT UP AND SEND IT BACK THIS IS ON LAST DITCH EFFORT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Aug 30 23:11:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA23479 for ; Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:11:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 05:15:39 +0100 Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS/CE Build 806 Available From: Carl Littlejohns Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Might be an idea to put the build number in the .zip name- I'm gonna get em all mixed up else :) Carl --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 01:34:48 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id BAA15716 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:34:41 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: kc5ejk@mailhost.onramp.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 01:34:10 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: global call for help List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >here is the problem i have a th-d7 g version > >tripmate gps with self start mod done. it is putting data out on pin 2 >the data cable for the gps jack is hook up pin 2 to ring . gps has lock >still doswnt show position. > >gps show my posit on ui view waprs >wince aprs . > >MY QUESTION IS SHOULD I SEND THE RADIO BACK TO GET LOOKED AT OR SET IT ON >THE FENCE POST AND USE IT FOR TRAGET PRACTICE .. BANG >>> > ! >>>>BANG [] NO HT NO PROBLEM > >NO JUST KIDDING BOUT READY TO PACK IT UP AND SEND IT BACK THIS IS ON LAST >DITCH EFFORT > The Tripmate can take 15 mins to get a valid sat lock (outside) might never get a lock inside. If the NMEA fix is not valid the D7A won't use it even if there is NMEA flowing. I would find some one with a d7a/d700 GPS setup and plug it into your D7a or as suggested several time look at the NMEA data on a computer communications program and send us a 25 line sample. a V in the data streen is invalid data and a A is valid remember A OK you never said if this is a standalone set up or you are running the d7a into a computer. just cause data is comming out of the tripmate doesn't mean the d7a can use it. 73 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 06:57:27 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA20936 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:57:25 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: kc5ejk@mailhost.onramp.net Message-Id: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 06:55:51 -0500 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] PocketSat with a Plam Cc: aprssat@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The Palm Sat Tracker called PocketSat is only $12.50 US and you can get it online from www.palmgear.com I use the Palm IIIc (color) unit and the display can be set to red for night mode as you watch outside. PLUS the unit can dial up to get the new keps. using a Free program called getTLE. (need a modem and hot-sync cable) Use the Seatch function on the palmgear site to find the software. 73 -- ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 08:23:35 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA29378 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:23:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Mike Edwards" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: global call for help Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:26:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001e01c0134f$0698df80$084cd0d1@mike> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Do you hear beeps from the D7G? is Menu 2-2 set to GPS UNIT - NMEA? The radio should send low tone beeps about every 10 seconds if it is receiving data at all, then bleep three high tones when it receives the first good posit from the GPS. Maybe check to see that you have the two data lines between the radio and GPS wired right. I got mine backwards the first time. Reversed 2 and 3, bam! :-) Mike KE4YGT (Don't use that radio for target practice, send it to me instead, I can use a spare D7) ----- Original Message ----- From: bdevine To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: Bob Bruninga ; ; TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: [htaprs] global call for help > here is the problem i have a th-d7 g version > > tripmate gps with self start mod done. it is putting data out on pin 2 > the data cable for the gps jack is hook up pin 2 to ring . gps has lock > still doswnt show position. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 09:06:52 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA06436 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:06:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "hasan schiers" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Cc: References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: PocketSat with a Plam Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:05:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002001c01354$869b9e20$d7178ea7@netins.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk It is a MARVELOUS program. I downloaded it last week and registered it the same day, once I saw how well it worked both on an LCD Palm IIIx and Palm IIIc color. One caveat, it does not track elliptical orbit birds like AO-10 or upcoming Phase IIId. It is for LEO birds only (like all the pacsats and ones we use with aprs as well as MIR and ISS). I have been in touch with the author and he has expressed some interest in putting out a version that will work with the elliptical orbit birds. I would think if we sent him a bunch of messages indicating our interest, we could get him to do it. The URL for info about the program is: http://emmgraphics.com/pilot/pocketsatinfo.html You can order/download it from Palmgear site. I think you can download the trial version from the web site noted above. 73, ...hasan > The Palm Sat Tracker called PocketSat is only $12.50 US and you > can get it online from www.palmgear.com > > I use the Palm IIIc (color) unit and the display can be set to red > for night mode as you watch outside. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 09:24:25 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA07878 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:24:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Bob Gormley To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Re: global call for help Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:23:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <56F9E4591D75D211885500600865B506FCAD34@MAIL.INTELECTINC.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mike brought up a good point about the two data lines between the radio and GPS. Since I'm new on the D7G and GPS scene, do you need both tx and rcv data lines connected between the D7G and GPS. I'm using a Garmin GPSIII with only tx (from GPS) to rcv on D7G connected. Does the radio have to respond back to the Garmin to function properly? Bob WA5YWC Plano, TX -----Original Message----- From: Mike Edwards [mailto:medwards@atlantic.net] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 8:26 AM To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Subject: [htaprs] Re: global call for help Do you hear beeps from the D7G? is Menu 2-2 set to GPS UNIT - NMEA? The radio should send low tone beeps about every 10 seconds if it is receiving data at all, then bleep three high tones when it receives the first good posit from the GPS. Maybe check to see that you have the two data lines between the radio and GPS wired right. I got mine backwards the first time. Reversed 2 and 3, bam! :-) Mike KE4YGT (Don't use that radio for target practice, send it to me instead, I can use a spare D7) ----- Original Message ----- From: bdevine To: TAPR Hot Technology APRS Cc: Bob Bruninga ; ; TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:54 PM Subject: [htaprs] global call for help > here is the problem i have a th-d7 g version > > tripmate gps with self start mod done. it is putting data out on pin 2 > the data cable for the gps jack is hook up pin 2 to ring . gps has lock > still doswnt show position. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: bgormley@intelectinc.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 09:57:51 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA11993 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:57:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] APRS Protocol Specification Version 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:56:39 -0300 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <200008311456.KAA12559@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm happy (you don't know *how* happy) to announce that APRS Protocol Specification Version 1.0 was approved by the APRS Working Group on August 29, 2000 and has been made available for download at the Working Group web page, http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/Faprswg.html. This Version 1.0 (technically, due to change control, version 1.0.1) document is nearly 130 pages long and does a tremendous job documenting the APRS protocol as used on the air in the summer of 2000. We should all thank the Working Group members, and especially Ian Wade, G3NRW, the Technical Editor who actually wrote the thing, for their hard work. Although the process took far longer than anyone anticipated when we started, I think the end result is definitely worth the wait. Where do we go from here? Although this is an excellent document, it almost certainly still contains errors, omissions, and ambiguities. In addition, it reflects only the current protocol, and not any of the areas in which the protocol might be extended. The WG members will be meeting at the DCC in Orlando next month and electronically thereafter to put in place a mechanism to deal with requested corrections and enhancements. The WG Charter outlines a way to handle this, but experience has shown that some modifications may be necessary for a workable process. Also at the DCC and thereafter, the WG will consider adding new members. Since its founding, several new authors have come on the scene, and two of the original members have resigned. Any author of software or firmware implementing the APRS protocol who wishes to join the WG should contact me (jra@febo.com or n8ur@tapr.org) directly. Please -- we need to hear directly from those interested in joining, so rather than writing to ask that someone be considered, encourage that person to get in touch with me. Also, please remember that the WG is not affiliated with TAPR. Membership decisions will be made by the group, and I can't tell you now how many (if any) new members will be added. 73, John Ackermann N8UR Administrative Chair, APRS Working Group jra@febo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 10:02:28 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA12592 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:00:34 -0700 From: "Valentino Sarro, VE6SZR" X-Accept-Language: en,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] ANSWER Re: global call for help References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39AE8121.3F496D76@home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob Gormley wrote: > Mike brought up a good point about the two data lines between the radio > and GPS. Since I'm new on the D7G and GPS scene, do you need both tx and > rcv data lines connected between the D7G and GPS. I'm using a Garmin GPSIII > with only tx (from GPS) to rcv on D7G connected. Does the radio have to > respond back to the Garmin to function properly? > > Bob WA5YWC Plano, TX You don't need both data lines connected to operate the D7 as a tracker........HOWEVER, if you do have both data lines connected then you get to take advantage of a "little used" feature of the D7 radio. The D7 will automatically convert APRS position packets to the Garmin waypoint format (GPWPL I believe its called). Anyways, if a person has their Garmin GPS (II,II+,III,III+) interface setup in NMEA/NMEA mode for bi-directional communication with the radio.....the D7 will plot APRS stations on the moving map display of the GPS!!!! PRetty neat if you don't have a laptop or palmtop computer available.......however, this will add each station to your waypoint list......which can be very troublesome when you have to delete them! Cheers, Tino/VE6SZR Calgary, Alberta --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 10:27:09 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA16911 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:27:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:26:32 -0400 From: "Charles H. Rahe, II" X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" CC: Barry , Jack Parker , Jack Parker Subject: [htaprs] Re: D700 Clock References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0DF548DE9EF429B5E258EF33" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <39AE7928.9B6C7D3B@infi.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0DF548DE9EF429B5E258EF33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Believe that I may have stumbled across the cure for the weird clock operation in the D700A. On pg 12 of the Specialized Comm. manual, at the bottom of the 2nd column is a note about resetting the clock IC. Performed the reset yesterday morning and since then the clock has kept proper time over a 24 hr period, including the rollover at midnight and a shutdown for several hours. The directions seem to imply that the reset is done after the unit is turned on, but I didn't get any results that way. However, if I held the middle two (third & fourth) buttons down when I turned the unit on it reset the internal time and date to 0's. The middle two buttons are the REV & LOW buttons under the usual button assignment. If you have changed the button mode as I have these two buttons will be labeled P.MON & BCON when the radio is turned on. Of course you'll have to set the proper time & date either thru the controls or with the GPS time set function under "POSITION" when you have a good GPS signal. Now if only we could have used those extra hours that the units were putting in a day Kenwood would have a real money maker. Also note that the clock chip is only good thru 2098. You younger fellows may end up with a useless radio after then. ;-). "Charles H. Rahe, II" wrote: > Has anyone else experienced weird jumps in the hour of the > D700's internal clock? I set it either via the GPS or manually and when > I look later the hour is way off time. Sometimes it's even over 23 and > as high as 38. Every thing else seems to function properly. > > Is there an internal battery for the clock that may be dead? > > This is my second D700 and I just bought it the end of June. The other > one doesn't have this problem. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. Charlie --------------0DF548DE9EF429B5E258EF33 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="crahe.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Charles H. Rahe, II Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="crahe.vcf" begin:vcard n:Rahe, II;Charles H. x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:M/V Lady J (AI3L-8) adr:;;;Middle River, MD;;; version:2.1 email;internet:crahe@lancnews.infi.net fn:Charlie Rahe, AI3L end:vcard --------------0DF548DE9EF429B5E258EF33-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Aug 31 10:57:02 2000 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA19559 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:57:01 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Lee Ciereszko" To: "TAPR Hot Technology APRS" Subject: [htaprs] Miami-DCC Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:56:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Seems that my partner for DCC will not be able to make it so I am again looking for somebody to drive with and/or room with at DCC. Will be leaving Miami Friday morning. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Questions regarding the SIG go to the SIG administrator: wa1lou@tapr.org