From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 1 12:38:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA03506 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 12:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 10:33:21 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel Organization: http://www.radiohound.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 User Survey Results References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37541961.3871995@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" All in all, I recieved 48 responses to my survey of lockups, satisfaction, and suggestions for the TH-D7. I had hoped for a bit more, but the results are still interesting. I have graphed and described these responses at: http://www.best.com/~wdunckel/survey.htm Thanks to all that responded to the survey! Walter --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 1 19:11:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA17053 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:10:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: cuyeda@199.182.120.3 Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 17:07:35 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Clifford Uyeda Subject: [htaprs] Re: Porta Desk? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.1.19990601151556.00964cf0@199.182.120.3> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk John, Try RAM Technology. You may find some interesting mounting options for all kinds of uses. http://www.ram-mount.com At 11:56 AM 5/31/99 -0400, John wrote: >Anyone heard of this car furniture for securing a laptop/notebook? Does it >work well? Someone told me it's used in law enforcement vehicles? Address >or URL to contact maker? > >Thanks for any info? > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: CUYEDA@IX.NETCOM.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > Clifford Uyeda E-mail: cuyeda@ix.netcom.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 1 21:00:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA20375 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:00:54 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:0:39 Subject: [htaprs] MIR, APRS, and everything To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Steve Sande" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk After reading the earlier comments on here from WB4APR and Mark Fellhauer, I thought I'd see if I could "hit" MIR last night. There was a pass at about 9:50 PM local time, so I went ahead and did the following: 1) Turned off squelch (could hear packet bursts from time to time through the white noise...) 2) Slapped a Comet SMA24 dual-band high gain antenna on the TH-D7A in place of the rubber duck 3) Bopped into menu 2-A and set UPROTOCOL to RØMIR 4) Tuned the TH-D7A to 145.985 5) Opened the TNC 6) Watched the radio in between gazing at Mir (the estimated magnitude of the pass was about -0.5!) Although I could hear the unique sound of packets being sent, the TH-D7A failed to recognize them as APRS packets. Was I doing anything wrong in terms of my setup? Do I also need to set my packet path (menu 2-8) to RØMIR or will the generic RELAY,WIDE work? There's another nighttime pass tomorrow evening (the 2nd of June), so if anyone can point out the error of my ways, I'd sure appreciate it. I've had great success copying APRS packets from all around the area and really love this TH-D7A. It's been a great toy and has already helped me snag a new ham into the hobby! KCØEZH Steve Sande Highlands Ranch, CO Visit PDAntic's Palm-Size PC World at http://www.pdantic.com/palmsize/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 1 21:13:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA20825 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:13:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 21:19:06 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I've had great success copying APRS packets from all around the area and >really love this TH-D7A. It's been a great toy and has already helped me >snag a new ham into the hobby! My question to you and the rest of the group is if people have any difficulty copying local packets. I've stated before, but I hear all sorts of packets that don't get decoded. Perhaps you had the same problem with MIR. Some have said that the readings need to be nearly full scale. Is the TNC in the TH-D7A that poor that unless you have full scale readings it won't decode the signals? And is Kenwood going to fix this via software? 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 1 22:13:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA22543 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:13:38 -0500 (CDT) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Tue, 01 Jun 1999 22:15:02 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990601221502.007e9d00@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id WAA22543 At 09:00 PM 6/1/99, Steve Sande wrote: >Although I could hear the unique sound of packets being sent, the TH-D7A >failed to recognize them as APRS packets. That's because they are not APRS packets. In APRS mode the TH-D7 will only recognize beacon packets or other UI packets. Going into packet mode and hooking up a computer will show alot more packets, especially if you set passall to on. >Was I doing anything wrong in >terms of my setup? Do I also need to set my packet path (menu 2-8) to RØMIR >or will the generic RELAY,WIDE work? There's another nighttime pass >tomorrow evening (the 2nd of June), so if anyone can point out the error of >my ways, I'd sure appreciate it. The packet path only relates to packets sent, not received. If you are just listening, pathway makes no difference. Remember, and I think many here have forgotten, packet is not a weak signal mode. You need a pretty good S/N ratio for packet to work. Tonight I went out to demo the HT to a few non-hams, just a few minutes ago, so I hooked up my 3 element Arrow antenna (an AO-27 special) and was amazed at how strong the signal was, even with the antenna pointed away from Mir. To make the demo even better, it was a good high pass, and Mir was visible, making it very easy to track. >From what was on the web today, it appears this time Mir's days are really numbered. So if you are going to do any experimentation of using Mir, now's the time to do it. 73, Mark KC7BXS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 1 22:26:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA22819 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:26:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:32:34 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >From what was on the web today, it appears this time Mir's days are really >numbered. So if you are going to do any experimentation of using Mir, >now's the time to do it. Any possbility that us hams can pitch in and buy MIR from the Russians? What a great contest or field day site, etc! I've got a little bit of money I'd contribute to buy a piece of MIR! :-) Oh....one could only hope! 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 08:48:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA24018 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:48:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:47:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tapr.org id IAA24018 On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Steve Sande wrote about operating THD7 via MIR: > 3) Bopped into menu 2-A and set UPROTOCOL to RØMIR error: That is the TOCALL. That should stay as APK001 always. No one will see any APRS packet from your radio if it is changed, unless they also have the same setting. This is for operating independent ALT-NETS on the same frequency. > Although I could hear the unique sound of packets being sent, the TH-D7A > failed to recognize them as APRS packets. Was I doing anything wrong in > terms of my setup? Do I also need to set my packet path (menu 2-8) to RØMIR > or will the generic RELAY,WIDE work? YES. You must set your path to R0MIR so that MIR will digipeat you. PS. Mir is now to be abandoned in August, so only 2 months left... See next message. de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 09:25:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA25056 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:25:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:24:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk MIR will only be up for 2 more months. If you haven't tried to get a STATUS/POSIT packet via MIR from your Kenwood THD7, you might want to give it a try: Here are passes TODAY (wed) over USA. These are approximations for your area at the start of the pass. Pass should last about 10 minutes. PDT MDT CDT EDT ---- ---- ---- ---- ... ... 1240 1340 1212 1315 1418 1520 1345 1448 1550 1652 1521 1624 1727 1830 1658 1800 1903 2005 1834 1937 2040 2142 2008 2110 2213 2316 2143 2247 2350 0052 2325 ... .... ... Be sure to set up your HT properly: 1) Set PATH to R0MIR 2) Be sure your position is entered. When you hear MIR, then manually originate some POSITS. Once your radio sees your own packet digiepated by showing you "MY PACKET", then you can be sure that everyone else saw you also, so stop sending. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 09:37:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA25490 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:37:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:36:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 1 Jun 1999, Mark Fellhauer wrote: > >Although I could hear the unique sound of packets being sent, the TH-D7A > >failed to recognize them as APRS packets. > > The packet path only relates to packets sent, not received. If you are > just listening, pathway makes no difference. True, but just to re-iterate, he had changed his UNPROTO TOCALL, which in APRS then becomes a filter so that you can operate "alternate nets" on the same APRS channel without interfereing with the main APRS activity. Thus, once you change your UNPROTO TOCALL to any "non-aprs-generic" call, then your radio will now ignore ALL packets unless addressed specifically to the same matching "altnet". Thus, when he set his UNPROTO TOCALL to R0MIR, he effectilvey filtered out all packets. Kenwood split the normal UNPROTO TOCALL VIA PATH construct of a normal TNC into two MENU items. UNPROTOCOL and PATH. They should have then been re-named to be "ALTNET" and "PATH" to be more discriptive... In summary. Never change the UNPROTOCOL in the THD7 to anything other than APK001 unless you want to operate a "private" net and ignore all others on the channel... But DO set PATH to the digipeater path desired... Here, R0MIR... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 10:54:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA28483 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC)" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Why should I buy a TH-D7? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:50:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I got some money burning a hole in my pocket so I'm looking for a new toy. I'm interested in the TH-D7 for it's portability with a PalmPilot and a terminal program, but I'm also interested in the Yaesu VX-5R for its portable 6m capability and extended receive. I've been following the list for a while, and I understand that the TH-D7 can be used for APRS, receive(only) 9600 data from the KitSats, connect to the MIR BBS and land BBS, Skycommand, and send/receive e-mail. What else can it do? (Please don't flame me for what I'm about to say). I'm not very interested in APRS, receiving 9600 data from the KitSats is boring unless someone likes to decode telemetry, Skycommand doesn't work with my TS-50S setup at home, and I can send and receive e-mails with my cell phone. At this point the only reason I can justify buying a TH-D7 is to connect to MIR and land BBS. Is that right? What other satellite can it connect too and will that work with a PalmPilot and a terminal program or will I need to buy a palmtop? Thanks Daniel --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 12:02:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA01123 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 12:02:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:01:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk OOPS, the freq is 145.985 MHz FM... See you there... On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Bob Bruninga wrote: > MIR will only be up for 2 more months. If you haven't tried to get a > STATUS/POSIT packet via MIR from your Kenwood THD7, you might want to give > it a try: > > Here are passes TODAY (wed) over USA. These are approximations for your > area at the start of the pass. Pass should last about 10 minutes. > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > ---- ---- ---- ---- > ... ... 1240 1340 > 1212 1315 1418 1520 > 1345 1448 1550 1652 > 1521 1624 1727 1830 > 1658 1800 1903 2005 > 1834 1937 2040 2142 > 2008 2110 2213 2316 > 2143 2247 2350 0052 > 2325 ... .... ... > > Be sure to set up your HT properly: > > 1) Set PATH to R0MIR > 2) Be sure your position is entered. > > When you hear MIR, then manually originate some POSITS. Once your radio > sees your own packet digiepated by showing you "MY PACKET", then you can > be sure that everyone else saw you also, so stop sending. > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 13:19:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA03717 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:19:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 11:17:06 -0700 From: Greg Kulosa To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Bob Bruninga on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 10:36:47AM -0400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990602111706.A5371@sharra.exelixis.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > In summary. Never change the UNPROTOCOL in the THD7 to anything other > than APK001 unless you want to operate a "private" net and ignore all > others on the channel... Well, what about the GPSxx TOCALL's to specify your icon? I use GPSLE (Horse) on my D7A when I am "equestrian mobile". The tracker in my truck uses "unproto GPSLK via WIDE3-3" so that it uses the Truck ICON. I know that the MIC-E format that the D7A uses also encodes the icon somehow, but I thought it was even better to include more info, given that a lot of the IGATE's seem to be flaky about converting MIC-E packets. The more redundant information the better. > bob -- Greg A. Kulosa | "The avalanche has already started, it is too Systems Administrator | late for the pebbles to vote." - Ambassador Kosh GNAC, Inc. |___________________________________________________ greg@gnac.com 999 Main Street - Redwood City, CA 94063 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 13:47:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA04829 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:47:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Why should I buy a TH-D7? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 99 13:52:26 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I got some money burning a hole in my pocket so I'm looking for a new toy. >I'm interested in the TH-D7 for it's portability with a PalmPilot and a >terminal program, but I'm also interested in the Yaesu VX-5R for its >portable 6m capability and extended receive. All good questions! I would also ask the same questions before dropping $400 for a new toy. The VX-5R is a nice radio. But perhaps you should be made aware of a couple of things: * Six Meters: While a cool idea, 6M is probably not very well realized from an HT. The reason is that you don't get much multi-path reflections on 6M like you do on 2M and up. The multi-path reflection propagation is what gives you the ability to communicate in not so line of sight paths. Six meters is almost a completely true line of sight band. I've been talking on 6 meter repeaters with guys who were running mobiles with 100 Watts and they were noisy into the repeater. Hills, buildings, etc are brutal on 6M. So unless you live close to a 6M repeater or have a good line of site to one, I wouldn't expect much out of it. Of course, when good sporadic E skip occurs and even possibly F-skip in the near future, a couple of Watts on 6m FM might be fun. The extended RX capability of the VX is nice. However, how much will you use it? And I've been told that wide band radios are much more susceptible to intermod, birdies and other problems in the RX. There is really no filtering. The TH-D7A gives you the VHF aircraft, ham, WX and VHF/UHF land mobile bands for RX. The VX-5R certainly gives you a lot more, but again, what is the use you have for the HT? > >I've been following the list for a while, and I understand that the TH-D7 >can be used for APRS, receive(only) 9600 data from the KitSats, connect to >the MIR BBS and land BBS, Skycommand, and send/receive e-mail. What else >can it do? It can brew your coffee in the morning. No, seriously, it is basically a 2M/440 HT with a full 9600 baud TNC inside. It can receive and transmit in 9600 baud. I don't know about the RX only stuff you heard about it works in both RX and TX at that speed. You can hook your GPS to it for APRS stuff, hook the VC-H1 SSTV unit to it and do some cool stuff and it does the other things you mention up there. The e-mail function is not typical e-mail like this message here, but is really APRS messaging. I don't think the TNC has a built in BBS. You can also monitor 2 VHF channels at the same time if you like. > >(Please don't flame me for what I'm about to say). I'm not very interested >in APRS, receiving 9600 data from the KitSats is boring unless someone likes >to decode telemetry, Skycommand doesn't work with my TS-50S setup at home, >and I can send and receive e-mails with my cell phone. At this point the >only reason I can justify buying a TH-D7 is to connect to MIR and land BBS. >Is that right? What other satellite can it connect too and will that work >with a PalmPilot and a terminal program or will I need to buy a palmtop? Well, you can use it with any of the FM satellites (AO-27) I believe (the VX-5R or any dualband HT can do this). You could use it to work MIR (for the next couple months), You say you can send and receive e-mails with your cell phone and you use that as a reason to discount that feature of the Kenwood. Well, you can talk to your friends on your cell phone, so why have ham radio at all? You can receive FM radio on your car radio so why should the extended RX capability of the VX-5R matter? If you say that one technology you have can replace another ham radio technology then what is the point of being a ham? Everything I do on ham radio could be done through some other means. The bottom line is that you have to decide wether you want an HT with a packet modem inside or an HT with wide TX/RX capability. That is your choice. If you have no real desire to do the packet part than get the VX-5R. The TH-D7A is really mostly setup to do APRS use as a specialty feature. If you aren't interested in APRS or packet in general than the TH-D7A isn't for you. Or if wideband RX isn't your thing either than get neither. If you rule out the TH-D7A, I would suggest then looking at the new 4 bander from Icom (6,2,440,1296). That looks to be a cool radio with the addition of 1296. Anyhow, your questions are good and good luck! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 13:49:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA04991 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 13:49:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything Date: Wed, 2 Jun 99 13:54:31 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906021849.NAA04968@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Well, what about the GPSxx TOCALL's to specify your icon? > >I use GPSLE (Horse) on my D7A when I am "equestrian mobile". No, you don't want to do that. There is a seperate menu for setting your icon. Use that. The D7A will filter out any TOCALL that is different from yours unless it begins with AP. Read that section in the manual. It's a cool feature. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 14:04:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA05326 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:04:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 14:17:23 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37557533.FED88702@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Jon O. wrote: >Any possbility that us hams can pitch in and buy MIR from the Russians? >What a great contest or field day site, etc! I've got a little bit of >money I'd contribute to buy a piece of MIR! :-) I wouldn't be surprised if they'd take our hard-currency dollars at all, considering how cash-starved the Russian space program (and their government in general) is. Do you realize that the largest problem with their military is that their personnel have often gone for months and, in some cases, years, without being paid! Thing is, it would be money spent on a dying tin can. Mir is going to become a bright streak in the sky next year anyway and will (hopeful- ly!) burn up in the atmosphere when it's deorbited. Remember Skylab?! There's a big chunk of that sucker lying at the bottom of some ocean as we speak. 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 14:58:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA07003 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:58:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything Date: Wed, 2 Jun 99 15:03:37 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk > Thing is, it would be money spent on a dying tin can. Mir is going >to become a bright streak in the sky next year anyway and will (hopeful- >ly!) burn up in the atmosphere when it's deorbited. But it doesn't really have to be that way. The sad part is that we won't have a functioning space station up there for the first time in a number of years. It's pathetic the slow technological pace that our space programs are going at. The shuttle is nearly 30 year old technology (it was being designed in the 70s) and we have NOTHING being designed to replace it. Additionally, we made a deal with the devil by turning the ISS from a US program to an International program. How stupid could we be to let the Russians build one of the most critical components, the crew quarters and command post, while we, the nation who can afford to build the stuff, builds things like docking modules. IMHO, the ISS is a cluster you know what that is based upon the universalist "we can all get along with each other" philosophy that our current governmental leaders have. I bet the ISS won't be up and running for another 2 or 3 years. Anyhow, it is totally pathetic how we've gotten complacent on space exploration and neglected to really leap frog the technology. But I digress on to other topics and away from APRS.... Thanks for the ranting and raving! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 15:08:55 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA07382 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:08:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Cees Tool" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 and KISS ? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:08:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009b01bead33$b5e9fa60$befe72c3@ctool> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Does anybody know if KISS-mode works with the new (USA) firmware ? I have an 'old' firmware version and KISS does not transmit. This is a well known problem and we have been told that 'Kenwood is working on it', but that was already in december'98 and there is no european firmware upgrade available yet ..... (and did not hear any announcement about it too ) 73 Cees Tool - PA3AES the Netherlands --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 15:57:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA09101 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:57:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC)" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Why should I buy a TH-D7? Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:51:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone who replied to my e-mail. I could only read the replies that were sent to me directly. All others will be read tomorrow since I get the digest version of this list. The reason I'm getting the new toy is because I'll be going to EO91 this fall for a week. If I get the VX-5R I could use it to put a rare grid square on 6M (assuming the band opens) and feel like a small DXpedition. If I get a TH-D7, I can still communicate with the world via packet and satellites. Humm... Decision, decision... You know what??? While writing this e-mail, I just realized that I could get the TH-D7 and add a TenTec 2m to 6m transverter and get the best of both world. I already have the TenTec 20m to 6m transverter, maybe I'll find someone to trade. Hey, imagine packet on 6m! Thanks a lot to all who replied to my question. Here goes my money! BTW, if I come across more spare money for more toys, which GPS receiver would you recommend for the TH-D7? My YL understands that EO91 is very remote, and I'm sure she doesn't want us to get lost. (I hope!) Daniel VE3DCL -----Original Message----- From: Jon Ogden [mailto:jono@enteract.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 14:52 To: Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC); TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: Re: [htaprs] Why should I buy a TH-D7? >I got some money burning a hole in my pocket so I'm looking for a new toy. >I'm interested in the TH-D7 for it's portability with a PalmPilot and a >terminal program, but I'm also interested in the Yaesu VX-5R for its >portable 6m capability and extended receive. All good questions! I would also ask the same questions before dropping $400 for a new toy. The VX-5R is a nice radio. But perhaps you should be made aware of a couple of things: * Six Meters: While a cool idea, 6M is probably not very well realized from an HT. The reason is that you don't get much multi-path reflections on 6M like you do on 2M and up. The multi-path reflection propagation is what gives you the ability to communicate in not so line of sight paths. Six meters is almost a completely true line of sight band. I've been talking on 6 meter repeaters with guys who were running mobiles with 100 Watts and they were noisy into the repeater. Hills, buildings, etc are brutal on 6M. So unless you live close to a 6M repeater or have a good line of site to one, I wouldn't expect much out of it. Of course, when good sporadic E skip occurs and even possibly F-skip in the near future, a couple of Watts on 6m FM might be fun. The extended RX capability of the VX is nice. However, how much will you use it? And I've been told that wide band radios are much more susceptible to intermod, birdies and other problems in the RX. There is really no filtering. The TH-D7A gives you the VHF aircraft, ham, WX and VHF/UHF land mobile bands for RX. The VX-5R certainly gives you a lot more, but again, what is the use you have for the HT? > >I've been following the list for a while, and I understand that the TH-D7 >can be used for APRS, receive(only) 9600 data from the KitSats, connect to >the MIR BBS and land BBS, Skycommand, and send/receive e-mail. What else >can it do? It can brew your coffee in the morning. No, seriously, it is basically a 2M/440 HT with a full 9600 baud TNC inside. It can receive and transmit in 9600 baud. I don't know about the RX only stuff you heard about it works in both RX and TX at that speed. You can hook your GPS to it for APRS stuff, hook the VC-H1 SSTV unit to it and do some cool stuff and it does the other things you mention up there. The e-mail function is not typical e-mail like this message here, but is really APRS messaging. I don't think the TNC has a built in BBS. You can also monitor 2 VHF channels at the same time if you like. > >(Please don't flame me for what I'm about to say). I'm not very interested >in APRS, receiving 9600 data from the KitSats is boring unless someone likes >to decode telemetry, Skycommand doesn't work with my TS-50S setup at home, >and I can send and receive e-mails with my cell phone. At this point the >only reason I can justify buying a TH-D7 is to connect to MIR and land BBS. >Is that right? What other satellite can it connect too and will that work >with a PalmPilot and a terminal program or will I need to buy a palmtop? Well, you can use it with any of the FM satellites (AO-27) I believe (the VX-5R or any dualband HT can do this). You could use it to work MIR (for the next couple months), You say you can send and receive e-mails with your cell phone and you use that as a reason to discount that feature of the Kenwood. Well, you can talk to your friends on your cell phone, so why have ham radio at all? You can receive FM radio on your car radio so why should the extended RX capability of the VX-5R matter? If you say that one technology you have can replace another ham radio technology then what is the point of being a ham? Everything I do on ham radio could be done through some other means. The bottom line is that you have to decide wether you want an HT with a packet modem inside or an HT with wide TX/RX capability. That is your choice. If you have no real desire to do the packet part than get the VX-5R. The TH-D7A is really mostly setup to do APRS use as a specialty feature. If you aren't interested in APRS or packet in general than the TH-D7A isn't for you. Or if wideband RX isn't your thing either than get neither. If you rule out the TH-D7A, I would suggest then looking at the new 4 bander from Icom (6,2,440,1296). That looks to be a cool radio with the addition of 1296. Anyhow, your questions are good and good luck! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 15:58:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA09127 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:58:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 13:54:53 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel Organization: http://www.radiohound.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Why should I buy a TH-D7? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37559A1D.B8057B6F@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Actually, the TH-D7 can only SEND E-mail. It can, however, send and receive APRS messages. The beauty of the TH-D7 is that it has APRS built into it, without the need of hauling a computer around to view, and send messages to other stations. Since you aren't interested in this feature, I would recommend you buy the VX-5R. What else can the D7 do? Well besides APRS, Packet, E-mail, SSTV, and Skycommand, about as much as any other dual band radio, with a few exceptions. Besides normal full duplex capability, you can listen to two 2-meter frequencies at the same time. You can listen to 118-136Mhz FM, not just AM Air band. You can decode the tone used on repeater frequencies. You can have your computer control the TH-D7 or use the Kenwood program to store all your frequencies into its memory. See: http://www.radiohound.com/d7zpinfo.htm By the way, the TH-D7 requires a computer (or Palm III/Wince etc.) to operate in packet mode. You might as well buy the VX-5R and a TNC (if you are interested in packet and don't find it too boring :-) Walter http://www.radiohound.com "Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC)" wrote: > > I got some money burning a hole in my pocket so I'm looking for a new toy. > I'm interested in the TH-D7 for it's portability with a PalmPilot and a > terminal program, but I'm also interested in the Yaesu VX-5R for its > portable 6m capability and extended receive. > > I've been following the list for a while, and I understand that the TH-D7 > can be used for APRS, receive(only) 9600 data from the KitSats, connect to > the MIR BBS and land BBS, Skycommand, and send/receive e-mail. What else > can it do? > > (Please don't flame me for what I'm about to say). I'm not very interested > in APRS, receiving 9600 data from the KitSats is boring unless someone likes > to decode telemetry, Skycommand doesn't work with my TS-50S setup at home, > and I can send and receive e-mails with my cell phone. At this point the > only reason I can justify buying a TH-D7 is to connect to MIR and land BBS. > Is that right? What other satellite can it connect too and will that work > with a PalmPilot and a terminal program or will I need to buy a palmtop? > > Thanks > > Daniel --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 16:16:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA09698 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:16:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:16:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything In-Reply-To: <19990602111706.A5371@sharra.exelixis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Greg Kulosa wrote: > > In summary. Never change the UNPROTOCOL in the THD7 to anything other > > than APK001 unless you want to operate a "private" net and ignore all > > others on the channel... > Well, what about the GPSxx TOCALL's to specify your icon? > I use GPSLE (Horse) on my D7A when I am "equestrian mobile". The TOCALL in the THD7 uses MIC-E format for all packeets except messages, so your TOCALL contains your LATITUDE and MESSAGE data in those cases. It only uses the UNPROTOCOL TOCALL for messages and in this case, the GPSxxx would be ignored since it is not in a posit. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 16:51:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA10842 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:51:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 14:49:10 -0700 From: Greg Kulosa To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR, APRS, and everything References: <19990602111706.A5371@sharra.exelixis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Bob Bruninga on Wed, Jun 02, 1999 at 05:16:09PM -0400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990602144910.C5371@sharra.exelixis.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > > In summary. Never change the UNPROTOCOL in the THD7 to anything other > > > than APK001 unless you want to operate a "private" net and ignore all > > > others on the channel... > > > Well, what about the GPSxx TOCALL's to specify your icon? > > I use GPSLE (Horse) on my D7A when I am "equestrian mobile". > > The TOCALL in the THD7 uses MIC-E format for all packeets except messages, > so your TOCALL contains your LATITUDE and MESSAGE data in those cases. > It only uses the UNPROTOCOL TOCALL for messages and in this case, the > GPSxxx would be ignored since it is not in a posit. Oh. Good point. I guess I didn't think it all the way through (Sheepish grin :-) It could still apply in Packet mode, but not in APRS mode, since it uses the MIC-E compressed format. Oh well, I guess I will change it back to "APK001". :-) > de WB4APR, Bob -- Greg A. Kulosa | "The avalanche has already started, it is too Systems Administrator | late for the pebbles to vote." - Ambassador Kosh GNAC, Inc. |___________________________________________________ greg@gnac.com 999 Main Street - Redwood City, CA 94063 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 17:08:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA11564 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:08:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:07:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@amsat.org, sarex@amsat.org Subject: [htaprs] Mobile Satellite COMMS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Amateur Mobile Satellite Comms easy! It worked! While driving between work locations today, I held my Kenwood THD7 out the window and kerchunked on MIR, and got a packet digipeated on only the 4th try! THis was with a long rubber duck. and the 6volt battery pack. Next I changed to the STOCK (poor) rubber duck and the 9.6 volt pack. Still I got into MIR after a few kerchunks! I saw several other UI users too. But only two of them were sending APRS UI packets which the Kenwood would receive. (see note below) On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Bob Bruninga wrote: > MIR will only be up for 2 more months. If you haven't tried to get a > STATUS/POSIT packet via MIR from your Kenwood THD7, you might want to > give it a try: > > Here are passes TODAY (wed) over USA. These are approximations for your > area at the start of the pass. Pass should last about 10 minutes. > Tune to 145.985. > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > ---- ---- ---- ---- > 1521 1624 1727 1830 > 1658 1800 1903 2005 > 1834 1937 2040 2142 > 2008 2110 2213 2316 > 2143 2247 2350 0052 > 2325 ... .... ... > > Be sure to set up your HT properly: > > 1) Set PATH to R0MIR > 2) Be sure your position is entered. > > When you hear MIR, then manually originate some POSITS. Once your radio > sees your own packet digiepated by showing you "MY PACKET", then you can > be sure that everyone else saw you also, so stop sending. Besides seeing the "MY PACKET" you can also check the PASS files on our live MIR WEB page to see if you got digipeated: (of course our WEB page receiver is in Maryland so it will only see east coast stations...) http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/mirex.html The Kenwood HT only decodes APRS formatted packets. If you are not using a kenwood or any other APRS program, then pleas do the following to make sure that everyone sees your packets. **** Set your UNPROTO to CQ via R0MIR The normal APRS UNPROTO is APRS VIA MIR, but CQ also works... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 20:55:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA18503 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:54:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 20:54:42 Subject: [htaprs] RE: Why should I buy a TH-D7? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Paul Lantz" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk hi from EO91 (Moosonee), I picked up my D7 in February and have had a lot of fun with it, would be nice to have another one around here for a while. I found APRS very busy in Toronto, found no APRS activity in a couple of other places I went in Northern Ontario (Sault Ste Marie but people interested and Thunder Bay), I have used D7 for packet (here that means talking to myself until the other guy here (VE3CIJ gets his Kam back on the air), have not yet successfully been picked up by MIR with D7 but want to do that before MIR is gone. Hope to run into you when you are in this area. 73 Paul VE3KBL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 22:50:55 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA22158 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:50:34 Subject: [htaprs] Success with Mir! To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Steve Sande" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Thanks to Bob Bruninga (WB4APR) and Mark Fellhauer(KC7BXS) I was able to get my TH-D7A set up and hit Mir on a pass over Denver at 9:10 PM local time tonight. I got a couple of ??RØMIR hits on the HT display, then thought I'd try sending a position packet. Almost immediately I got the "MY PACKET" response, indicating I had digipeated through Mir. Coooool! Shortly after I picked up KF4ERV-7 (Louisville, KY), who was mobile and blasting through Mir with his TH-D7A, and KB8RWI (Rawlins, WY). Definitely a lot of fun with 5W and a little mag mount dual-band antenna! I'll keep trying this as long as Mir is operational. 73s! KCØEZH Steve Sande Highlands Ranch, CO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 23:37:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA25466 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:37:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <017401bead7a$c50977e0$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I too tried to hit MIR on the same pass tonight but was not successful. Was reading the messages on this list and decided to give it a try. When I learned that I only had about 15 minutes before the pass, I scoured the list as well as Bob's web site for instructions for the D7 set up. Guessed at the 145.985, and the via RØMIR and my position was already input. No luck this time but I'll keep trying. By an ironic coincidence a nearby local ham, almost a neighbor that I didn't know was there, decided to also try tonight on the same pass, saw my call, and sent me an email introduction greeting. He was trying to connect and wasn't sending APRS so I didn't decode him. Harry, KAØTTY ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Sande To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 10:50 PM Subject: [htaprs] Success with Mir! > Thanks to Bob Bruninga (WB4APR) and Mark Fellhauer(KC7BXS) I was able to > get my TH-D7A set up and hit Mir on a pass over Denver at 9:10 PM local > time tonight. I got a couple of ??RØMIR hits on the HT display, then > thought I'd try sending a position packet. Almost immediately I got the "MY > PACKET" response, indicating I had digipeated through Mir. Coooool! Shortly > after I picked up KF4ERV-7 (Louisville, KY), who was mobile and blasting > through Mir with his TH-D7A, and KB8RWI (Rawlins, WY). > > Definitely a lot of fun with 5W and a little mag mount dual-band antenna! > I'll keep trying this as long as Mir is operational. > > 73s! > > KCØEZH > > Steve Sande > Highlands Ranch, CO > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: HBURFORD@AIRMAIL.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 2 23:46:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA25658 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:46:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: "Gary S. Bargholz" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:46:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Another VC question Reply-to: N9UUR@execpc.com Priority: normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906030446.XAA15215@mailgw02.execpc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Kenwood has just released a new software package for the VC-H1. It comes with a VC to PC cable.... Kenwood PC Connection Kit KCT-24S $60.00 Does anybody know anything about this? Does it "download" pics from the VC to PC faster than the original AOR software? Can you print directly from the software? 60 bucks is a bit much for me to just "pick it up to try it out" and answer a few questions. But worth it if the problems in the AOR software are solved. Any input appreciated. Gary __________________________________________________ Gary Bargholz http://www.execpc.com/~n9uur AMSAT Area 9 Coordinator, Wisconsin Chairman: W.A.R. The WI Association of Repeaters Treasurer: M.R.C. The Milwaukee Repeater Club Owner: N9UUR-10 Milwaukee APRServe IGate ________________________________________________ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 07:00:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA18838 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:00:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:59:25 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Keith Sproul Subject: [htaprs] Re: Another VC question Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Yes, the new program is FASTER!!! I do not know if it can print, but I can look at it tonight to find out.. Keith >Kenwood has just released a new software package for >the VC-H1. It comes with a VC to PC cable.... > >Kenwood PC Connection Kit >KCT-24S >$60.00 > >Does anybody know anything about this? >Does it "download" pics from the VC to PC faster than >the original AOR software? >Can you print directly from the software? > >60 bucks is a bit much for me to just "pick it up to try >it out" and answer a few questions. But worth it if the >problems in the AOR software are solved. > >Any input appreciated. > >Gary > Keith Sproul 732 445-3695 Office Student Housing Network Coordinator 732 445-2968 Fax mailto:ksproul@rci.rutgers.edu 732 821-4828 Home http://dorm.rutgers.edu/~ksproul/ WU2Z --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 10:46:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA24770 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:46:34 -0500 (CDT) From: "Keith Schlottman" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "Jack Bivin" Subject: [htaprs] Libretto cable Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:46:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001601beadd8$32bad9c0$110310ac@mmsi.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've got a friend who is trying to hook up his Toshiba Libretto 50 to his new TH-D7. He's testing it with winAPRS Lite. The Libretto is a tiny notebook but it runs full Win 95. His cable appears to be wired properly but the computer and the radio don't seem to be talking to each other. Also the Libretto appears to generate some heavy noise on 144.39. Any advice? tnx de KR7RK ------------------------------------------- Keith D. Schlottman, CPA Modular Mining Systems, Inc. e-mail: corporate web site: ------------------------------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 11:37:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA26009 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:37:26 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Libretto cable To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Gerald Schmitt" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I have a Libretto 50 and have been using it with the TH-D7A with no problems. I have even hooked up the GPS in parallel with the Libretto so as to be doing APRS with the TH-D7A and having my Street Atlas running to give me my position. The only interference problem I have encountered with the Libretto was with the GPS when it was less than a meter from from the Libretto and the Libretto was accessing the HDD. Since I have upgraded to the 4.3GB disk even that problem has gone away. What I have not been able to accomplish is the get APRS+SA going with the TH-D7A. I have dropped a note to the author but no joy so far. Any help with this would be appreciated. 73 de Jerry KK5YY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 11:41:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA26188 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:41:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:41:27 Subject: [htaprs] APRS+SA and TH-D7A help please To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Gerald Schmitt" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Howdy All, I have a new TH-D7A and would like to use it with APRS+SA. Have any of you successfully done this and if so what are the parameters needed? I am rather committed to SA as I got to Alaska a lot and their coverage is great there. Any hint of tips will be greatfull received. My current setup is a GPS-12XL, a Libretto, and the TH-D7A. 73 Jerry KK5YY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 12:57:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA28910 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:57:16 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7 SOFTWARE ERROR Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:56:58 -0600 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: c_watson@asi.admworld.com List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000401beadea$39901910$9bdda8b6@clayton.admworld.com> Precedence: bulk It may just be my wiring but according to the manual I have everything wired correct. My problem comes when I run the program off of the Kenwwood page and I try to "Read" and "Write" to the D7. I get a message that says Communications Timeout Error. Did I wire it up backwards? Is the radio supposed to have TNC on? There sure isn't enough directions with Kenwoods software. Thanks for the Help All Clayton Watson KB0WZI c_watson@asi.admworld.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 16:10:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA05949 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:10:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 14:02:07 -0700 From: "Jim R." Reply-To: smokesigs@baraboo.com Organization: Badger State Smoke Signals MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [sarex] Mobile Satellite COMMS! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3756ED4F.7DED@baraboo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob Bruninga wrote: > > Amateur Mobile Satellite Comms easy! > > It worked! While driving between work locations today, I held my Kenwood > THD7 out the window and kerchunked on MIR, and got a packet digipeated > on only the 4th try! THis was with a long rubber duck. and the 6volt > battery pack. Next I changed to the STOCK (poor) rubber duck and the 9.6 > volt pack. Still I got into MIR after a few kerchunks! > > I saw several other UI users too. But only two of them were sending APRS > UI packets which the Kenwood would receive. (see note below) > > On Wed, 2 Jun 1999, Bob Bruninga wrote: > > > MIR will only be up for 2 more months. If you haven't tried to get a > > STATUS/POSIT packet via MIR from your Kenwood THD7, you might want to > > give it a try: > > > > Here are passes TODAY (wed) over USA. These are approximations for your > > area at the start of the pass. Pass should last about 10 minutes. > > Tune to 145.985. > > > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > > ---- ---- ---- ---- > > 1521 1624 1727 1830 > > 1658 1800 1903 2005 > > 1834 1937 2040 2142 > > 2008 2110 2213 2316 > > 2143 2247 2350 0052 > > 2325 ... .... ... > > > > Be sure to set up your HT properly: > > > > 1) Set PATH to R0MIR > > 2) Be sure your position is entered. > > > > When you hear MIR, then manually originate some POSITS. Once your radio > > sees your own packet digiepated by showing you "MY PACKET", then you can > > be sure that everyone else saw you also, so stop sending. > > Besides seeing the "MY PACKET" you can also check the PASS files on our > live MIR WEB page to see if you got digipeated: (of course our WEB page > receiver is in Maryland so it will only see east coast stations...) > > http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/mirex.html > > The Kenwood HT only decodes APRS formatted packets. If you are not using > a kenwood or any other APRS program, then pleas do the following to make > sure that everyone sees your packets. > > **** Set your UNPROTO to CQ via R0MIR > > The normal APRS UNPROTO is APRS VIA MIR, but CQ also works... > > de WB4APR, Bob > > ---- > Via the sarex mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA. > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe sarex" to Majordomo@amsat.org A fantastic opportunity to meld APRS, MIREX, and GPS, and to show just how much can be done with this system, and using minimal equipment at that! I note where Denali is in AK. I don't know Mir's current footprint, but certainly at least western/northern Canadian hams will see those frames, and possibly some of us here in the midwest/northern and western/northern tier of states, if the pass is "just right". Good luck and have a great adventure! -- Best regards, Jim Romelfanger, K9ZZ SPECIAL EVENT STATIONS W 9 C and W 9 R IN EARLY JULY! W9R - GREAT CIRCUS TRAIN. W9C - MILWAUKEE SHOWGROUNDS. Train operation info - mail me back. Both operations in July 1999 QST. WISCONSIN QSO PARTY results will be available at: http://www.execpc.com/WARAC GET A VIRUS ALERT? Before you pass it on, please point to http://www.av.ibm.com/BreakingNews/HypeAlert/ or http://msc.baraboo.com/support/email_hoax.htm LIKE CIRCUS? CHECK OUT http://www.circusparade.com or http://www.circusworldmuseum.com Railroad info and tickets: http://www.wsorrailroad.com/circusticket.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 18:29:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA10103 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:29:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:28:41 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "Bob Bruninga, WB4APR" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id SAA10103 On 6/2/99 10:50 PM, Steve Sande (kc0ezh@arrl.net) passed this wisdom: >Thanks to Bob Bruninga (WB4APR) and Mark Fellhauer(KC7BXS) I was able to >get my TH-D7A set up and hit Mir on a pass over Denver at 9:10 PM local >time tonight. I got a couple of ??RÿMIR hits on the HT display, then >thought I'd try sending a position packet. Almost immediately I got the "MY >PACKET" response, indicating I had digipeated through Mir. Coooool! Shortly >after I picked up KF4ERV-7 (Louisville, KY), who was mobile and blasting >through Mir with his TH-D7A, and KB8RWI (Rawlins, WY). > >Definitely a lot of fun with 5W and a little mag mount dual-band antenna! >I'll keep trying this as long as Mir is operational. Me too .... I used my D7 and a hand held single element two meter beam (Antennaco) and hit MIR with a successful digipeat when it was barely 10 degrees above horizon on the front end of AOS for orbit 75968. Then I copied APRS packets from KB8RWI (no position set). I sent three more and one of them got digipeated, I then copied VE3XF-2 (grid EN34WK) and then KA3ONZ ( FN20EN -Breinigsville, PA), there were bunch of "?? R0MIR" whihc I must assume were conventional digipeats or PBBS stuff. I went to but no updated files since 24 hours ago? Bob ?? is the Mirex server down? Tomorrow's passes here will be better, I have one right over my head I iwll try the plain vanilla duck on that one ... ... such a simple thing, but to this jaded not as young as he used to be guy its was a thrill ... Bob, thanks ... that did it! I am really hooked now! Come on Bob, what can we do to resurrect the Weber mini-sat you started on but got torpedoed by Commerce. Oh yeah, for what its worth my Garmin GPS II+ arrived today and I will be busy soldering cables to nite ... YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! 73 de brian, ka2bqe Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Give a man a fish and you have fed him for a day, but give him a case of dynamite and soon the village will be showered with mud and seaweed and unidentifiable chunks of fish." -Joe Chew --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 18:41:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA10606 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 17:40:31 -0600 From: "Larry (Woody) Bateman" X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] R0MIR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3757126F.292032D4@micron.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Listening for Mir's signal on my TH-D7A at 16:53 MDT in Boise, ID. and received a posit from N6GPS-6. According to his position he should have been at the intersection of Furlong and East in Hollister, CA. This is cool stuff! ======================================================================= Larry (Woody) Bateman Amatuer callsign: KB7WWP Web Page: http://netnow.micron.net/~lwoody Email: lwoody@micron.net Where am I? My Home-------http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp My Truck------http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp-14 My Hangglider-http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp-7 (Weekends only) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 20:08:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA12640 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:08:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 21:07:12 -0400 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! From: "Steve & Kelley Jones" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: "Bob Bruninga, WB4APR" Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906040109.VAA18663@smtp13.bellglobal.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I then copied VE3XF-2 (grid EN34WK) If it was Thursday night's pass around 1830edt then you got me just outside the house on my way to vote in our provincial election. Had the d7 with long rubber duckie in one hand and was pulling the wagon full of kids with the other. Even the wife was somewhat impressed by it all. -- Steve --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 20:15:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA12759 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:15:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! 75969 was busy Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:15:47 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The next pass (orbit #75969) after 8pm was even better, lots of activity I digipeated again and also copied W4DJV (Dan, Warrenton, VA, FN18DS) WB4APR-7 ( FM19QD - hmmm wonder who this is?) KD4HTW (LLoyd APRSmax837, FM04AE) I had a bunch of "?? R0MIR" packets and a "??N5xxx" I don't remember what the rest of the call was) For me this was a higher pass and stayed active for nearly 8 minutes. I tried to send a message to WB4APR-7 text was "HI" - it was never ACKed, but that does not surprise me, Bob, did you get it? 73 de brian, ka2bqe Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "One of the deep mysteries to me is our logo, the symbol of lust and knowledge, bitten into, all crossed with in the colors of the rainbow in the wrong order. You couldn't dream of a more appropriate logo: lust, knowledge, hope, and anarchy." -- Gassee - Apple Logo --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 20:20:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA12905 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:20:07 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/3/99 9:07 PM, Steve & Kelley Jones (sdjones@sympatico.ca) passed this wisdom: >> I then copied VE3XF-2 (grid EN34WK) > >If it was Thursday night's pass around 1830edt then you got me just >outside the house on my way to vote in our provincial election. Had >the d7 with long rubber duckie in one hand and was pulling the wagon >full of kids with the other. Even the wife was somewhat impressed by >it all. > ohhhhhhh ... soooooo .... why was you icon a "house" ... should been ,,,, hmmmm ... hey Kenwood, we need a Radio Flyer wagon icon!!!!! Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Ben Franklin, ~1784 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 22:58:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA17419 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:58:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 23:55:18 -0400 From: Brian Fulmer MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7 to GPS 3+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37574E26.536C@ix.netcom.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello All, Since I'm new to this list the answer to this question, probably has already been posted. Ok! here are the gory details. )I have a TH-D7 and a Garmin GPS 3+, I am trying to connect together. I have build a cable using the 2.5mm cable that came with the D7, and a Garmin 4 pin connection cable. The pinout I am using is as follows: )the sheild(2.5mm) & the ground (black 4pin gps connector) are tied together. )Ring(2.5mm-data in-red) to the data out (brown 4pin gps). )tip(2.5mm-data out-white) to the data in (white 4pin gps). As far as I can tell this cable seems to be working. My problem is sometimes the D7 will recieve the longitude & Latitude info from the gps. )With the power turned off, I connect the cable between the D7 & gps. )First I power up the D7, & turn on the tnc function. )Then I turn on the gps, and after a series of beeps as the gps boots up, I hit the pos key. The display is zeros, with the degree symbol blinks, as if it is trying to lock onto the data from the gps. My question is: is this the way to power up the devices, or am I doing it wrong. Sometimes when I follow this procedure; it will lock on and display the info from the gps. The other times it does not recieve any data. Any help in this matter will be greatly appreciated. tia Brian --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 23:04:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA17590 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:04:04 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:03:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tapr.org id XAA17590 > ...Guessed at the 145.985, and the via RØMIR and my position was already > input. No luck this time but I'll keep trying. Since I began this thread, I have been outside for almost all East coast passes and have been successful on every one. Using only the HT and rubber duck antenna. Here is my procedure: 1) Rotate HT while watching signal meter to find best polarization. DO this throughout the pass.. 2) When radio is silent and no BBS downloads are in progress, then just press the BCON button to force an immediate posit. Do this every now and then when you think the channel is clear. Dont over do it since you are adding QRM to the rest of us. Once you are successful by seeing MYPACKET displayed, then stop. 3) Pre-load a BLN# brag message. Similarly, hit MSG-TRANSMIT buttons to transmit the message. When you see MY PACKET, then that also was successful. Select the message and hit DEL to cancel it. 4) If you see any other APRS user get through, hit LIST, then MSG button and then enter "hi!" and out goes that message. Hit MSG-XMIT to get it through until you see the MY PACKET confrimation. Then also cancel it. Notice that Each time you hit the MSG-TRANSMIT button, that ALL of your outstanding messages are transmitted at once, so that is why it is best to only send one at a time until MY-PACKET so that you KNOW which one got through and so that you are not sending LONG MULTI-LINE QRM. Put your EMAIL in your APRS STATUS if you want QSL's. Do NOT expect ACKS, They are only QRM and chances are so small as to be useless. Remember, if you see "MY PACKET" then you know it got through MIR and the other station 'probably' captured it. STOP sending at that point. If you get a posit through early and a msg too, then it is probably OK to try to get another set through towards the end of the pass too, since MIR will then be over a different set of users. But repeated attempts close together is just hogging it. Leave room for the other guy... NOT EVERY THD7 user is on this SIG. Please consider posting a normal APRS BULLETIN on your APRS network announcing the fun we are having. The bulletin should encourage THD7 users mostly. If we get APRS users with their LONG POSITS and BIG STATUS packets over on MIR, we will certainly kill the golden GOOSE! Make this clear. We are testing SATELLITE HT communications, NOT general APRS... THey are welcome to listen, but lets let only the 5 watt HT's transmit for now... and see where we go from here... de WB4APR, bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 23:48:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA20502 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:48:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:46:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here are some (edited) results of the HT messaging tests via MIR: KB7WWP: Listening for Mir on my TH-D7A in Boise, ID. and received a posit from N6GPS-6. ... he was at the intersection of Furlong and East in Hollister, CA. (over 380 miles away) This is cool stuff! SD JONES: I then copied VE3XF-2 (grid EN34WK) ... I was outside the house on my way to vote in our provincial election. Had the D7 with long rubber duckie in one hand and was pulling the wagon full of kids with the other. Even the wife was somewhat impressed! KC0EZH: I got my TH-D7A set up and hit Mir on a pass over Denver tonight. I sent a position packet. Almost immediately I got the "MY PACKET" response, indicating I had digipeated through Mir. Coooool! Shortly, I picked up KF4ERV-7 (Louisville, KY), who was mobile and KB8RWI (Rawlins, WY). Definitely a lot of fun with 5W and a little mag mount dual-band antenna! KA2BQE: Me too .... I used my D7 and hit MIR with a successful digipeat when it was barely 10 degrees above horizon. I copied 3 other APRS UI packets and sent 3 of my own.... one more of them got digipeated, that did it! I am really hooked now! SUMMARY: These are only 5 watt HT's with rubber ducks (- 3 dB) so they should not be interfering with any other legitimate 25 watt or more station who may need access to the Mir BBS. We are not encouraging other higher power stations to join the fun, because it will only kill the success of the HT's. What we are trying to do is demonstrate that simple APRS digipeaters in space can provide worldwide messaging capability from handhelds. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 3 23:57:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA20652 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:57:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:57:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk MIRtest: The one thing we are demonstrating this week with the MIR as a UI digipeater, is the APRSat concept. Besides APRS Map displays, the other keys to the success of terrestrial APRS is the use of "generic" digipeating, and ONE nationwide frequency. Every APRS digipeater has the same ALIAS of "WIDE" and all 500 of them are on ONE continent-wide freq. Thus, Mobile users and travelers do not have to know anything about the network. They just turn on the radio and transmit VIA as many WIDE's as needed to cover the area of interest. Now, Imagine, if some of the AMSATS (MIR, ISS and Shuttle too) in orbit carried an APRS digipeater all with the same alias of APRSAT, also on one common UPLINK. THen anyone on the planet, anywhere simply sends his message via APRSAT and he can communicate with anyone within 1500 km. THe more of these satellites the better. ALL on the same freq and whatever orbits we can get. Thus, for each satellite, we might get 6 more passes each. It is trivial to hit a satellite with a 5W HT. In fact, even 0.5W would work on 2 meters. I have submitted a Freq request to AMSAT for such an APRS uplink. There are both opportunites and problems here: 1) 2 meters is ideal since it takes much less power and has less doppler than 70cm, but there are no 2m frequencies left (unless we share with some exsiting satellites). ALthough the gain to amateur radio (in having our own "irridium" type HT worldwide coverage) is phenominal, the politics is probably just too hard to get a 2m freq. 2) 70 cm could work as the uplink, since mobiles can afford the additional 8 dB power, but it makes HT operation harder. The Satelites would use wide band receivers (30 KHz) so that they are immune to doppler (another 3 dB link penalty) 3) The DOWNLINK must be on 2 meters tho, because of the 8 dB or more advantage for the omni-Satelllite-to-omni-HT link. Thus, a 1 watt spacecraft (about a 5 inch or smaller NANOSAT) could do the job. Over the North American continent, the downlink would be WELCOME on the existing continent wide 144.39 frequency. Everyone could hear it, and its low power would NOT interfere with other, even, emergency communications during its brief passes. But I dont know what to do about Europe or the rest of the world. 4) OPerating on a 70cm uplink and a 2m downlink will NOT work with the existing all-in-one Kenwood APRS Data radio, because the built-in TNC can only select one-band at a time. Thus to make use of these few thousand radios as shirt-pocket world-wide satellite communicators, the UPLINK must also be on 2 meters. (The uplink cannot be on 144.39 though, because the hundreds of users there already would be too much QRM for the mobiles and HT's to get through. CONCLUSION? There is much more to discuss here, but I hope you see the point. Just think in terms of an AMATEUR RADIO version of the worldwide satellite HT communications capability (one-line messages only). If we could get this vision across, then maybe we could find a permament 2 meter UPLINK and downlink that would be supported by all AMSAT organizations. ALso, everyone could build their OWN satellites to contribute without competition for frequencies since we can all share the same one without problems! INTERNET: OH yes, all packets on the downlink would be distributed worldwide by the existing APRServe internet system, so that a packet originated ANYWHERE can get to ANYWHERE in real time. This is also a facet of APRS that makes it so universal. The terrestrial APRS system does this very well in populated areas, but it can never cover the 70% of the planed covered by water and the 70% of all land that has low population density. ANd it is THOSE areas where we need mobile, shirt pocket satellite messaging capability! de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 00:11:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA26989 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 22:07:26 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel Organization: http://www.radiohound.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 SOFTWARE ERROR References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37575F0E.D93ACD0F@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I tend to get a few timout errors myself, but after a few tries, you should be able to get it to work. I bet you have it wired backwards. This is easy to do, because the directions are a little fuzzy in Kenwoods manual. Look on page 54 of the manual that came with the D7a. Now look at the 2.5mm connector shown on this page. It shows TXD and RXD with references to a shaded area below them. The markings on the connector are the TH-D7's TXD and RXD! NOT the PC's. So really you want to hook them backwards, or at least read the shaded section. Good luck! Walter http://www.radiohound.com c_watson@asi.admworld.com wrote: > > It may just be my wiring but according to the manual I have everything wired > correct. My problem comes when I run the program off of the Kenwwood page > and I try to "Read" and "Write" to the D7. I get a message that says > Communications Timeout Error. > > Did I wire it up backwards? Is the radio supposed to have TNC on? There > sure isn't enough directions with Kenwoods software. > > Thanks for the Help All > Clayton Watson > KB0WZI > c_watson@asi.admworld.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 08:11:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA16971 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:11:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:11:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001c01beae8b$c1c8c4c0$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This sounds exciting. But from experience, I can recall an example of 2 local digipeaters. One at the 1100' level of a tower and the other on top of a 125' water tower. The 1100' digipeater was virtually deaf due to packet overload. The 125' digipeater enjoyed incredibly large coverage. Unless there would also be some plan for a 'good operator practice' in the use of such a satellite, then how would this be handled? FM capture would allow the strongest signal to win. High power would rule and the concept of a low power HT access might be lost. I like your concept, however and it would be fun to see it working. Have you considered a different track on this? What would it take to pop a bulkhead BNC connector on the bottom of a commercial jet crossing the country? At least there if something broke or needed adjustment, it could be done, where a satellite would be lost. I think it was the Burt Ruttann group that designed a plane that could be parked at 60K feet for 18 hour shifts. The plane was designed to be a repeater in the sky and service phone and pagers with no need for a bunch of towers on the ground. The concept was that about 40 of these could blanket the continental US. There is a URL and an article about this, I'll dig it up and post it. Harry, KAØTTY ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Bruninga To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:57 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests > MIRtest: The one thing we are demonstrating this week with the MIR as > a UI digipeater, is the APRSat concept. Besides APRS Map displays, the > other keys to the success of terrestrial APRS is the use of "generic" > digipeating, and ONE nationwide frequency. Every APRS digipeater has > the same ALIAS of "WIDE" and all 500 of them are on ONE continent-wide > freq. Thus, Mobile users and travelers do not have to know anything > about the network. They just turn on the radio and transmit VIA as > many WIDE's as needed to cover the area of interest. > > Now, Imagine, if some of the AMSATS (MIR, ISS and Shuttle too) in orbit > carried an APRS digipeater all with the same alias of APRSAT, also on > one common UPLINK. THen anyone on the planet, anywhere simply sends > his message via APRSAT and he can communicate with anyone within 1500 > km. THe more of these satellites the better. ALL on the same freq and > whatever orbits we can get. Thus, for each satellite, we might get 6 > more passes each. It is trivial to hit a satellite with a 5W HT. In > fact, even 0.5W would work on 2 meters. > > I have submitted a Freq request to AMSAT for such an APRS uplink. There > are both opportunites and problems here: > > 1) 2 meters is ideal since it takes much less power and has less > doppler than 70cm, but there are no 2m frequencies left (unless we > share with some exsiting satellites). ALthough the gain to amateur > radio (in having our own "irridium" type HT worldwide coverage) is > phenominal, the politics is probably just too hard to get a 2m freq. > > 2) 70 cm could work as the uplink, since mobiles can afford the > additional 8 dB power, but it makes HT operation harder. The Satelites > would use wide band receivers (30 KHz) so that they are immune to > doppler (another 3 dB link penalty) > > 3) The DOWNLINK must be on 2 meters tho, because of the 8 dB or more > advantage for the omni-Satelllite-to-omni-HT link. Thus, a 1 watt > spacecraft (about a 5 inch or smaller NANOSAT) could do the job. > Over the North American continent, the downlink would be WELCOME on the > existing continent wide 144.39 frequency. Everyone could hear it, and > its low power would NOT interfere with other, even, emergency > communications during its brief passes. But I dont know what to do > about Europe or the rest of the world. > > 4) OPerating on a 70cm uplink and a 2m downlink will NOT work with > the existing all-in-one Kenwood APRS Data radio, because the built-in > TNC can only select one-band at a time. Thus to make use of these > few thousand radios as shirt-pocket world-wide satellite communicators, > the UPLINK must also be on 2 meters. (The uplink cannot be on 144.39 > though, because the hundreds of users there already would be too much > QRM for the mobiles and HT's to get through. > > CONCLUSION? There is much more to discuss here, but I hope you see the > point. Just think in terms of an AMATEUR RADIO version of the worldwide > satellite HT communications capability (one-line messages only). > If we could get this vision across, then maybe we could find a permament 2 > meter UPLINK and downlink that would be supported by all AMSAT > organizations. ALso, everyone could build their OWN satellites to > contribute without competition for frequencies since we can all share the > same one without problems! > > INTERNET: OH yes, all packets on the downlink would be distributed > worldwide by the existing APRServe internet system, so that a packet > originated ANYWHERE can get to ANYWHERE in real time. This is also > a facet of APRS that makes it so universal. The terrestrial APRS > system does this very well in populated areas, but it can never cover > the 70% of the planed covered by water and the 70% of all land that > has low population density. ANd it is THOSE areas where we need > mobile, shirt pocket satellite messaging capability! > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: HBURFORD@AIRMAIL.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 08:37:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA17702 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:37:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:36:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If you have a Kenwood HT or other QRP (5w packet station) and want to test your handheld satellite communicator, here are today's (FRI) MIR passes over the USA. Times are approx beginning of pass. PDT MDT CDT EDT ---- ---- ---- ---- ... ... 1155 1254 ... 1228 1328 1428 1300 1403 1505 1608 1436 1538 1641 1644 1613 1715 1818 1921 1749 1852 1954 2057 1924 2027 2130 2233 2100 2203 2306 ... 2238 Passes are about 8 minutes long on 145.985. Please, unless you are using BBS, send UI packets only via R0MIR, and low power (5w). NEVER try to connect to someone. Once you see your UI packet digipeated, consider it success, and stop sending. If someone is using BBS, wait till he is finished. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 08:55:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA18233 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:55:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:54:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Doc sent in these packets captured in central calif from 13 users. Note the 1 watt station... From: "Dr Dave Larsen [ PhD ]" 2035 PDT: N6GPS-7>R0MIR*>SV5QQT (UI):`14l Hello from Hollister WD6BFC>R0MIR*>TPTPPP (UI):`22l n\>Chuck testing TH-D7A KB8RWI>R0MIR*>BEACON : _QTH_548_W.DAVIS_ST._RAWLINS,WY._82301_-Email- AB0GD-1>R0MIR*>DN70KM ::WD6BFC :hello Chuck{027 AB0GD-1>R0MIR*>DN70KM :]-[1 watt HT - Fort Collins, Colorado KC5JOE-7>R0MIR*>SSPP9R(UI):`}ZHl K\>hbeck@flash.net KC7ZRU>R0MIR*>DN71 :Greetings from Laramie, WY kc7zru@arrl.net WD6BFC>R0MIR*>TPTPPP (UI):`22l n\>Chuck in Redding CA VE6DHW>R0MIR*>APRS [UI]::AB0GD-1 :hi there. 73{000 KC7ZRU>R0MIR*>DN71 :Hello Lumpy! Just sent you email about your WA6YET>R0MIR*>EM36EJ [UI]:hello KC7ZRU>R0MIR*>DN71 :Hello Lumpy! Just sent you mail via APRS SIG KC5JOE-7>R0MIR*>SSPP9R(UI):`}ZHl K\>hbeck@flash.net SERGEI>R0MIR*>SWRSWQ (UI):`2\$l K\>Help MIR! Send money W6EY>R0MIR*>CN70WX :evening W7AI-7>R0MIR*>S2QWSS (UI):`'\tl [/> --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 10:14:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA21785 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:14:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:14:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk MIR passes in EDT had an error. Here is correct one: Sorry... > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > ---- ---- ---- ---- > ... ... 1155 1254 > ... 1228 1328 1428 > 1300 1403 1505 1608 > 1436 1538 1641 1744 <= this one was erroneously posted as 1644 > 1613 1715 1818 1921 > 1749 1852 1954 2057 > 1924 2027 2130 2233 > 2100 2203 2306 ... > 2238 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 12:13:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA27119 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:13:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:12:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fri) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Oh well.... MIR was NOT on packet on todays 1st pass. bummer > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > > ---- ---- ---- ---- > > ... ... 1155 1254 <=== nothing heard! > > ... 1228 1328 1428 > > 1300 1403 1505 1608 > > 1436 1538 1641 1744 > > 1613 1715 1818 1921 > > 1749 1852 1954 2057 > > 1924 2027 2130 2233 > > 2100 2203 2306 ... > > 2238 > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-1106H@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 12:20:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA27334 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:20:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:20:7 Subject: [htaprs] Lumpy (or you) and Mir To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Chris verbil" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >>Seeing some stations but I guess I'm just not making the trip TO Mir.<< If the altitude of the Mir pass is decent (say, above 30 degrees elevation above horizon), you should be able to hit the satellite. I have been able to do it using a Comet 24" flexi-whip on my Kenwood HT at 5w. We have also been using a portable 2m yagi with another Kenwood rig, and believe it or not, the whip antenna seems to work more reliably than the beam. >>'Can't get there from here' I guess.<< Yes you can. I guarantee you can..you probably have just been trying on not-so-optimal passes. >>Still confused about the how to tell when the pass is.<< The gsoc.dlr site from Germany only lists "visible" passes, in other words when the sky is dark. That web site is designed for sky watchers, not radio folks who don't care whether it is night or day. Obviously, the Mir continues to orbit during daylight hours. I might recommend you use the following sites to figure out where Mir is: (real time display with projected next orbit track): http://www2.gsoc.dlr.de/scripts/satvis/mirorbit.asp?lat=37.355564&lng=-122.075518%20%20%20&loc=Los+Altos&TZ=PST Please note, the above URL has my home coordinates already bookmarked. If you are using the gsoc.dlr web site already for visible satellite passes, then this URL will reflect your qth instead. WinOrbit is a program to download from the net that is a real-time and projected satellite display program that you can customize: http://www.sat-net.com/winorbit/download.html You will need to get the Keplerian elements (orbital geometry) for Mir. These can be found at: http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt Save this file as an entry in the \KEPS subdirectory of WinOrbit. It will take some playing around for you to realize the value of WinOrbit. But after you are comfortable with it, you will be able to predict accurately when there will be good passes over your qth. I look forward to bouncing a message to you from California. Chris N5CV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 12:23:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA27459 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:23:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Paul Knupke Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fri) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:18:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001d01beaeae$47b2df40$31dbdfcf@tdts.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Oh well.... MIR was NOT on packet on todays 1st pass. bummer I listened too and heard nothing .... The next pass here is at 2:30-2:39 EDT but very low on the horizon. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 12:37:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA28054 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:37:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Daniel Lavoie" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Connecting Equipment for Remote Control Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:28:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000901beaea7$d768e5a0$0ad1ba89@tecra> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I downloaded the TH-D7 off the Kenwood web site. On page 96, there is a circuit with the caption: "Make connections as shown when remotely controlling equipment." I didn't see anywhere else in the manual where remote controlling equipment is described unless they are referring to SkyCommand. I see on page 94, that the SMC-33 (remote control speaker mike) has 3 push buttons just as in the circuit. Is that what's that for, and how would I go about programming the TH-D7 for each of the 3 buttons as in the circuit diagram. Daniel --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 12:50:55 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA28488 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:50:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:50:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Karl Salisbury To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Connecting Equipment for Remote Control In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk refer to page 44 of the manual for information on programming those three keys/switches. Karl On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Daniel Lavoie wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:28:50 +0100 > From: Daniel Lavoie > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Connecting Equipment for Remote Control > > I downloaded the TH-D7 off the Kenwood web site. On page 96, there is a > circuit with the caption: "Make connections as shown when remotely > controlling equipment." > > I didn't see anywhere else in the manual where remote controlling equipment > is described unless they are referring to SkyCommand. I see on page 94, > that the SMC-33 (remote control speaker mike) has 3 push buttons just as in > the circuit. Is that what's that for, and how would I go about programming > the TH-D7 for each of the 3 buttons as in the circuit diagram. > > Daniel > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: cruz@magicnet.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 12:52:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA28556 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:52:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Chris Verbil To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on Lumpy (or you) and Mir Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:50:26 -0700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <8B0BE50D6F9AD01185A300A0C92BF45504E5469F@US01XCH01.Trimble.COM> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have calculated the following passes for you in Fort Collins through Sunday night. These are start of pass times MDT: Today (Fri, 6/4) 1403 1540 1852 2027 Tomorrow (Sat, 6/5) 1255 1431 1607 1743 1918 2054 Sun, 6/6 1321 1457 1635 1810 1945 I used a 10 degree elevation filter so anything that rises less than 10 is not shown here. All of these passes will be above 10 degrees, even that might be a problem if it is a low pass to the west of you. But most of these should be good for you. The absolute best passes for you to try are: Today at 1403 to 1413, max elevation 88 degrees, almost right overhead! Tonight at 2027 to 2037, max elevation 70 degrees. Sunday at 1321 to 1331, max elevation 76 degrees. Sunday at 1945 to 1955, max elevation 60 degrees. Good luck! Chris N5CV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 13:23:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA29663 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:23:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: More on Lumpy (or you) and Mir In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Remember, though, that on weekends the downlink shifts over to SSTV.... (sometimes) so there is no packet... bob On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Chris Verbil wrote: > I have calculated the following passes for you in Fort Collins through > Sunday night. These are start of pass times MDT: > > Today (Fri, 6/4) > > 1403 > 1540 > 1852 > 2027 > > Tomorrow (Sat, 6/5) > > 1255 > 1431 > 1607 > 1743 > 1918 > 2054 > > Sun, 6/6 > > 1321 > 1457 > 1635 > 1810 > 1945 > > I used a 10 degree elevation filter so anything that rises less than 10 is > not shown here. All of these passes will be above 10 degrees, even that > might be a problem if it is a low pass to the west of you. > > But most of these should be good for you. The absolute best passes for you > to try are: > > Today at 1403 to 1413, max elevation 88 degrees, almost right overhead! > > Tonight at 2027 to 2037, max elevation 70 degrees. > > Sunday at 1321 to 1331, max elevation 76 degrees. > > Sunday at 1945 to 1955, max elevation 60 degrees. > > Good luck! > > Chris > N5CV > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 13:48:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA00920 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 14:43:05 -0400 From: Michael Leeper X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Second Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37581E39.3B23A2E2@mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Michael in Cumberland, MD I was not able to here anything on second pass. Will try again at 1608 using two day old kenwood TH-D7a. 73, Michael KO4UU. Gate on 10.151<>144.390 KO4UU --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 13:56:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA01290 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:56:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 14:55:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fri) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Oh well.... MIR was NOT on packet on todays 1st or 2nd pass. > > > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > > > ---- ---- ---- ---- > > > ... ... 1155 1254 <=== nothing heard > > > ... 1228 1328 1428 <=== Nothing here either > > > 1300 1403 1505 1608 > > > 1436 1538 1641 1744 > > > 1613 1715 1818 1921 > > > 1749 1852 1954 2057 > > > 1924 2027 2130 2233 > > > 2100 2203 2306 ... I guess I'll lay low for a while and crawl back under my rock... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 15:32:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA05016 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:32:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 16:31:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fri) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Back in the saddle again! > > > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > > > > ---- ---- ---- ---- > > > > ... ... 1155 1254 <=== nothing heard > > > > ... 1228 1328 1428 <=== Nothing here either > > > > 1300 1403 1505 1608 <=== Lots of activity! > > > > 1436 1538 1641 1744 > > > > 1613 1715 1818 1921 > > > > 1749 1852 1954 2057 > > > > 1924 2027 2130 2233 > > > > 2100 2203 2306 ... So I guess we didnt break it after all... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 15:44:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA05363 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:44:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 16:38:03 -0400 From: Michael Leeper X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Mir 1608 EDT Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3758392B.7826A8AA@mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello list: I was able to copy the following form my Gate tuned to 145.985. These were with a beam pointed due south of Cumberland, MD and using my home station. WB4APR-7 VE3FTA-7 No Pos data R0MIR No Pos data WN3C No Pos data KC8JDS-3 N5UXQ No Pos data I was unable to copy any station on my TH-D7, With stock antenna, I was able to hear faint packets. I will keep trying. 73 Michael KO4UU. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 17:03:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA07462 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:03:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Steve Prior" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "Bob Bruninga, WB4APR" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:05:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002e01beaed6$687fe880$7a0c82d0@compaq> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Friday 6/4/98 Success with MIR Stations heard from FM19PS N3UYI's QTH N6QAB-7 WB4APR-7 KO4UU-7 I got 2 my packets!! What fun!! 73 de Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve & Kelley Jones To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: Bob Bruninga, WB4APR Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 9:07 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! > > I then copied VE3XF-2 (grid EN34WK) > > If it was Thursday night's pass around 1830edt then you got me just > outside the house on my way to vote in our provincial election. Had > the d7 with long rubber duckie in one hand and was pulling the wagon > full of kids with the other. Even the wife was somewhat impressed by > it all. > > -- > Steve > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: SPRIOR@NFDC.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 17:23:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA07917 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:23:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:23:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fri) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Great MIR pass! 15 UI Stations heard, 5 were THD7's. LESSON LEARNED: Since the THD7 can only see POSITS and BULLETINS, we should be communicating with BULLETINS, not messages, so that the other THD7's can see what we are saying. Private messages are only seen by recepient. (boring to eveyone else) Now if we could only get those other 10 UI stations to send APRS packets so we could see them too... Can you belive one guy was CONNECTED TO HIMSELF! What a waste of bandwidth. He ACKED himself all pass long! > > > > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > > > > > ---- ---- ---- ---- > > > > > ... ... 1155 1254 <=== nothing heard > > > > > ... 1228 1328 1428 <=== Nothing here either > > > > > 1300 1403 1505 1608 <=== Lots of activity! > > > > > 1436 1538 1641 1744 <=== Lots! 15 UI stns, 5 THD7's > > > > > 1613 1715 1818 1921 > > > > > 1749 1852 1954 2057 > > > > > 1924 2027 2130 2233 > > > > > 2100 2203 2306 ... I got my posit digipeated twice, once at beginning and once at end. ALso I sent 3 msgs successfully and received 2. It works! I use 17 inch full size MFJ rubber duck and 9.6 volt battery pack and adjust antenna angle for max receive signal. Oh, and also NO TREES, I can see horizon down to 2 degrees. NOTE: Again, this is not an invitation to OPEN APRS operations on MIR from home stations, since their packets are long and verbose. We are trying to show personal Satellite Comms via QRP HT's. Possibly to justify to AMSAT future APRSats for HT comms... If you operate at 5W or less, then join in. Success is seeing your packet digipeated (MY PACKET). You are very WELCOME to monitor from your home station and if your packet gets through at the normal XMIT rate, so be-it. But from home stations, please do not increase your XMIT rate to give the little guys a chance. Also, for eveyone, only ONE outstanding message at a time until you see it digipeated. THEN hit MSG-LIST-DEL key to cancel it. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 17:26:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA07998 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:26:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Chuck Doubrough" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "Bob (WB4APR) Bruninga" , "Chuck (VE3NCU) Doubrough Sr." Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fri) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:35:41 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000201beaeda$93aacb20$ac29d4d1@remoted> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I got your HI! message Bob on the 4th pass. I was just leaving work with my THD7A in the truck. A couple of tries and I got the response I was looking for! A couple of people looked at me funny when I pulled over to send the message though! 73 from Chuck in Orillia, ON. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 18:21:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA09773 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:21:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Yet another MIR success with TH-D7 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:00:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <005801beaede$091caec0$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Plagued with operator error problems on the first couple of attempts, I finally had a satisfying success with MIR. Problems: * Had the automatic repeater offset turned on. (dohhh!) * Looking the wrong direction. Had a building as well as the body in the way to block the signal. Once fixed, contact was easy on orbit 75946 pass which only had about a 12 degree elevation. Signal was almost full scale at times on the D7. Was able to copy KC4ZPL-7 KB8RWI KC5JOE-7 KB0WZI-1 Even had a TH-D7 to TH-D7 QSO with KC5JOE via MIR. Going to have to practice that keyboard entry on the D7! Was only able to do one exchange. Harry, KAØTTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 18:35:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA10219 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:35:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Mir non-success :-( Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 19:35:21 -0400 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906042335.TAA02699@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, I was outside for the 1925 MIR pass over the east coast. Heard K9GD (a couple of times), N3UYI, VE3XF, and KA2BQE (a couple of times). But didn't see any sign that my own packets were being repeated. I'll give it another try on the next pass... 73, John N8UR jra@febo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 18:37:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA10260 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:37:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:36:57 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" , , , "Steve & Kelley Jones" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/4/99 9:36 AM, Bob Bruninga (bruninga@nadn.navy.mil) passed this wisdom: >If you have a Kenwood HT or other QRP (5w packet station) and want to >test your handheld satellite communicator, here are today's (FRI) MIR >passes over the USA. Times are approx beginning of pass. > >PDT MDT CDT EDT >---- ---- ---- ---- >... ... 1155 1254 >... 1228 1328 1428 >1300 1403 1505 1608 >1436 1538 1641 1644 >1613 1715 1818 1921 >1749 1852 1954 2057 >1924 2027 2130 2233 >2100 2203 2306 ... >2238 I digipeated a BLN1 and my posit twice Pass at 1921 EDT hours copied N3UYI-7 twice (FM19PS) sent message didn't appear to digipeat WB4APR-7 twice (FM19QD) sent message, it didn't appear to digipeat VE3XF-2 (EN34WK) - succesfully digipeated a message to him - did ya get it? K9GD-7 (EN52VA) Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The first 75% of the project takes 90% of the time; the last 15% of the project takes the other 90% of the time. -- Barry Wainwright and numerous ofthe engineers --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 18:37:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA10277 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:37:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:36:57 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" , , , "Steve & Kelley Jones" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/4/99 9:36 AM, Bob Bruninga (bruninga@nadn.navy.mil) passed this wisdom: >If you have a Kenwood HT or other QRP (5w packet station) and want to >test your handheld satellite communicator, here are today's (FRI) MIR >passes over the USA. Times are approx beginning of pass. > >PDT MDT CDT EDT >---- ---- ---- ---- >... ... 1155 1254 >... 1228 1328 1428 >1300 1403 1505 1608 >1436 1538 1641 1644 >1613 1715 1818 1921 >1749 1852 1954 2057 >1924 2027 2130 2233 >2100 2203 2306 ... >2238 I digipeated a BLN1 and my posit twice Pass at 1921 EDT hours copied N3UYI-7 twice (FM19PS) sent message didn't appear to digipeat WB4APR-7 twice (FM19QD) sent message, it didn't appear to digipeat VE3XF-2 (EN34WK) - succesfully digipeated a message to him - did ya get it? K9GD-7 (EN52VA) Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The first 75% of the project takes 90% of the time; the last 15% of the project takes the other 90% of the time. -- Barry Wainwright and numerous ofthe engineers --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 18:38:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA10315 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:38:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 18:37:47 -0500 From: Tony Drumm MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Walkie-Talkie MIR tests (fri) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3758634B.14CAA116@ibm.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mir pass just a few minutes ago here in MN (1820 CDT or so). I didn't see any of my D7 packets digipeated, but I did receive from the following stations: VE3XF-2, position, "Committed" K9GD-7, MOBILE VIA MIR, position, "Enroute" KA2BQE-7, MMUHS Jericho VT, position, "Special" KB8RWI, BEACON,R0MIR*:_QTH_5, no position Tony - AA0SM --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 20:09:06 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA12627 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:09:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] HT MIR -- Success! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:08:41 -0400 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906050108.VAA02925@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, on the 2057 pass I got 2 posit packets through, and maybe a message. Stations heard: WB8DTG, who's all of 9 miles from me KC5DHE AJ4Y WB4APR KU4GY John N8UR jra@febo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 20:14:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA12760 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:14:49 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:17:18 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 0100z Mir Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3758A4CE.9CE3BFDD@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Stations heard in EL97bx with the D7A with an MFJ flexi-antenna: KU4GY-7 WB4APR-7 W4GV N8UR-7 KC5DHE R0MIR Very short pass. Only heard packets for less than 5 minutes. Saw my packet repeated once. Thanks to the list for trying this out!! 73 Paul AJ4Y --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 20:29:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA13192 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:29:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: jwhughes@mail.lig.bellsouth.net Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:27:17 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: John Subject: [htaprs] Mir Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990604212717.007e9710@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I was about to give up, was supposed to be a visible pass, but was vy cloudy hereabouts. And the skeeters were biting...:) Came back in the house and a min later (abt 9pm eastern) d7 started making noise. Ran back out and although don't think I made it thru, I did copy: KU4GY-7 EL95 (JOGGER 303MI W/COMPASS ARROW POINTING SE) WB4APR-7 FM9QD (JOGGER 731MI NE) W4GV EM70EF (/\ 201MI W) N8UR-7 EM79WP (694MI N) AJ4Y-7 EL97BW (JOGGER 122MI S) Wow, what a good feeling to even hear that sucker! Guess I should change that truck icon...heh. Jogger makes a bit more sense if you're standing outside. Will definitely have to try it again! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 20:41:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA13461 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 17:49 PDT Pass of MIR Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:41:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC604B6F09B@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Heard lots of packet "burps", but my D7 only captured the following 3 stations: WA6YLB-6 VE6DHW <--- status says using 25 W & 9db antenna - tsk, tsk! KB8RWI <--- lat/long of 0/0... I'm surprised I couldn't get my packet digipeated. I was standing on top of a very tall hill in an undeveloped area with a beautiful view of the horizon in all directions! I'm using the Comet 14" antenna and had the rig on high power with a fully charged MAHA 9.6V NiMH battery. Hmmmm... maybe better luck next time. ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 20:43:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA13499 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:43:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:43:31 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Half success. Happened to be reading this msg and saw the times! Quickly turned on the HT for the last 4 minutes or so of the 2057 EDT pass. Heard following stations: W4GV, AJ4Y-7,KU4GY-7, WB4APR-7, N8UR-7. Did not hear myself. BUT HEY>>> I was in the kitchen when I did this! Maybe I'll stroll outside next pass. Almost as much fun as when I used to work AO-13! Hope to be seen and see you on the D7! Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK > > If you have a Kenwood HT or other QRP (5w packet station) and want to > test your handheld satellite communicator, here are today's (FRI) MIR > passes over the USA. Times are approx beginning of pass. > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > ---- ---- ---- ---- > ... ... 1155 1254 > ... 1228 1328 1428 > 1300 1403 1505 1608 > 1436 1538 1641 1644 > 1613 1715 1818 1921 > 1749 1852 1954 2057 > 1924 2027 2130 2233 > 2100 2203 2306 ... > 2238 > > Passes are about 8 minutes long on 145.985. > Please, unless you are using BBS, send UI packets only via R0MIR, and low > power (5w). NEVER try to connect to someone. Once you see your UI packet > digipeated, consider it success, and stop sending. > > If someone is using BBS, wait till he is finished. > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 20:47:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA13566 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:47:24 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:47:05 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Mir tracking Cc: aprssig@tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/realtime/jtrack/Spacecraft.html java tracking page with Mir , SHUTTLE and ISS or try http://38.201.67.72/realdata/tracking/index.html Shutle/ISS 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 20:51:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA13735 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:51:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 21:39:39 -0400 Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Walkie-Talkie MIR tests From: "Steve & Kelley Jones" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: tapr aprs special interest group , aprsnews@tapr.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906050152.VAA20095@smtp13.bellglobal.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > VE3XF-2 (EN34WK) - succesfully digipeated a message to him - did ya > get it? Yep, just checked and I show a message from KA2BQE-7. Worked like a charm. The 2055 pass was unsuccessful for me though. -- Steve --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 21:06:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA14443 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:06:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: HT MIR -- Success! Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:06:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002501beaef7$fd087e60$91438cd1@infinia> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, on the 1852 pass and the 1715 (MDT) passes, both times I saw my packet repeated by the D7. I heard lots of stations on my mobile rig, but not much on the D7. What make this interesting is that this was with the stock antenna on the HT from the parking lot at work just south of Salt Lake City. I am going to try the next pass as well. I guess the 5 minute difference shows on the reports I have seen of calls. I got repeated on two seperate passes, but nothing on the lists. Oh well... What fun! Tom NY4I ----- Original Message ----- From: John Ackermann To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 7:08 PM Subject: [htaprs] HT MIR -- Success! > Well, on the 2057 pass I got 2 posit packets through, and maybe a > message. > > Stations heard: > > WB8DTG, who's all of 9 miles from me > KC5DHE > AJ4Y > WB4APR > KU4GY > > John N8UR > jra@febo.com > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: TOMS@INCONNECT.COM > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 21:14:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA14568 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:14:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Thomas M. Schaefer" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: HT MIR -- Success! Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:14:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <005a01beaef9$229914e0$91438cd1@infinia> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Sorry for the glaring grammatical errors in my last email. My mind is going much faster then my fingers. Man, this is exciting stuff! Tom NY4I ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas M. Schaefer To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 8:06 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: HT MIR -- Success! > Well, on the 1852 pass and the 1715 (MDT) passes, both times I saw my packet > repeated by the D7. I heard lots of stations on my mobile rig, but not much > on the D7. What make this interesting is that this was with the stock > antenna on the HT from the parking lot at work just south of Salt Lake City. > I am going to try the next pass as well. I guess the 5 minute difference > shows on the reports I have seen of calls. I got repeated on two seperate > passes, but nothing on the lists. Oh well... What fun! > > > Tom NY4I > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Ackermann > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 7:08 PM > Subject: [htaprs] HT MIR -- Success! > > > > Well, on the 2057 pass I got 2 posit packets through, and maybe a > > message. > > > > Stations heard: > > > > WB8DTG, who's all of 9 miles from me > > KC5DHE > > AJ4Y > > WB4APR > > KU4GY > > > > John N8UR > > jra@febo.com > > > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: TOMS@INCONNECT.COM > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: TOMS@INCONNECT.COM > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 21:39:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA15402 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:39:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:38:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: HT MIR -- Success! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Thomas M. Schaefer wrote: > Well, on the 1852 pass and the 1715 (MDT) passes, both times I saw my packet > repeated by the D7. I heard lots of stations on my mobile rig, but not much > on the D7. Yep, I notice that too... Problem is that the THD7 will only see standard APRS stations and other THD7's. It will not see other dumb-terminal UI users. And the majority of users on the MIR channel are such UI users. Our chances of convincing them to type in our format is small... oh well... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 21:48:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA15675 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:48:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 20:46:35 -0600 From: "Larry (Woody) Bateman" X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Success with MIR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37588F8B.9506A665@micron.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk 20:28 MDT pass was a great success for me. Got a "My Packet" on my D7 back from Mir. Got a posit from: N6CDJ NY4I-7 WD6BFC AA6JR Sent a message of "HI" to all, did anyone get it? ======================================================================= Larry (Woody) Bateman Amatuer callsign: KB7WWP Web Page: http://netnow.micron.net/~lwoody Email: lwoody@micron.net Where am I? My Home-------http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp My Truck------http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp-14 My Hangglider-http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 21:48:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA15696 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:48:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Clayton Watson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Last Past Was a Blast Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 20:49:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEAECB.BED9EE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001901beaefe$0c123a80$94435da6@kb0wzi> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEAECB.BED9EE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good Elevation on this last past 8:27 MDT. Saw "my packet" and only got = three stations and one message.... KC5JIF-- KA0TTY-7--Coppell, TX N6CDJ-- Message was from KU0G "Howdy from Cowtown! KCMO!!!" I sent a Bullentin and was wondering if anyone got it?? By the way i'm = in Denver Clayton KB0WZI kb0wzi@rmi.net ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEAECB.BED9EE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good Elevation on this last past = 8:27 MDT. =20 Saw "my packet" and only got three stations and one=20 message....
 
KC5JIF--
KA0TTY-7--Coppell, TX
N6CDJ--
 
 
Message was from
KU0G
"Howdy from Cowtown! =20 KCMO!!!"
 
I sent a Bullentin and was wondering = if anyone=20 got it??  By the way i'm in Denver
 
Clayton
KB0WZI
kb0wzi@rmi.net
 
------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEAECB.BED9EE20-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 21:48:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA15720 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:48:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:47:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I got 2 my packets!! What fun!! ATTENTION: I want to put together a file of all the users who participated in this test so that we can possibly use it to help justify future experiments. I was going to ask for a volunteer to piece all the Email together and then realized that my own HT holds a running list of all MIR calls heard here in MD (as long as I dont tune to 144.39). So if there is anyone else in the NW, SW, Texas, North Central, and FLA that can also keep their radios virgin until this is over, then we can simply add up those lists at the end... Or if there IS A VOLUNTEER to scrap together what is reported here, then that would be appreciated... By the way, how many THD7 users aer on this SIG anyway? bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 21:53:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA15860 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 21:53:33 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 22:55:44 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 0236z Mir Pass @ AJ4Y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3758BBE0.B99CC0A@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk WOW!! What fun...tuning for doppler shift, trying to watch signal strength, and trying to reply to a message...all at the same time with the D7A!! Stations heard: KU0G KC5EJK-7 W4GV N4ZQ KU4GY-7 I received a message from N4ZQ but the Mir was gone before I could get a reply put in and sent. Looks like next pass is a little under 13 hours. Can't wait!! I noticed that packets were decoded this pass with only 3 bars on the D7's rx display. I think this is the first time with this radio that a sig that weak has been decoded successfully. Paul AJ4Y --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 22:06:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA16428 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:06:11 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:07:56 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] FL Data References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3758BEBC.DB884CFF@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I can keep track of the FL data. How long Bob do you want it kept for? I know that N4ZQ and KU4GY are in FL...any others? Please indicate your state in your posts to the list or copy email to me @ aj4y@arrl.net if you are in Florida. Paul AJ4Y --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 22:10:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA16618 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:10:48 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 23:12:27 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Weekend Mir Schedule...from Central Florida Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by darius.concentric.net id XAA22612 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3758BFCB.3C4B663@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id WAA16618 Satellite schedule for : Mir +-------- AOS -------- + -- MAX VISIBILITY -- + ---- LOS ---- + UTC Date Time Azm | Time Azm Elev | Time Azm | Duration 06/05/99 15:47 174.3° | 15:51 120.2° 8.2° | 15:55 71.1° | 00:08 06/05/99 17:21 235.7° | 17:26 328.8° 38.1° | 17:31 35.8° | 00:10 06/05/99 19:00 307.8° | 19:02 333.7° 2.9° | 19:05 8.5° | 00:05 06/05/99 23:51 357.0° | 23:54 37.8° 5.0° | 23:57 74.9° | 00:06 UTC Date Time Azm | Time Azm Elev | Time Azm | Duration 06/06/99 01:25 320.1° | 01:29 351.3° 56.2° | 01:35 134.7° | 00:10 06/06/99 03:02 267.4° | 03:04 241.4° 3.7° | 03:08 193.6° | 00:06 06/06/99 16:13 206.4° | 16:17 129.1° 40.3° | 16:22 50.3° | 00:09 06/06/99 17:49 271.4° | 17:52 313.4° 10.6° | 17:57 21.7° | 00:08 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 4 22:18:55 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA16977 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:18:51 -0500 (CDT) From: n6gps@garlic.com (Brent Bolen) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success with Mir! Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 03:17:46 GMT Organization: Lazy Bee Software Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375a9524.88552347@garlic.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id WAA16977 Bob, I am logging all of what I see in Hollister using Procomm, so if nobody else is logging in the central part of CA, I can do it. I am recording more than just APRS packets, if that matters. On the 6/5/99 02:35 GMT pass, I saw: WA6YLB-6>APRX40,R0MIR*:=3616.91N/11918.35WyByron at work in Visalia WD6BFC>4P3YVV,R0MIR*:`21_l [/>WD6BFC@arrl.net D7A KB7WWP-14>TS2TVP,R0MIR*:`+P?l!lk/>lwoody@micron.net WD6BFC>4P3YVV,R0MIR*:`21_l [/>WD6BFC@arrl.net D7A N0MN-7>S4SSTQ,R0MIR*:`-+Fl -/>TH-D7/GPSIII NY4I-7>T0SRST,R0MIR*:`'O+l [/>TOM IN SALT LAKE AA6JR>APS199,R0MIR*:=3409.57N/11847.29W_APRS+SA Jeff in Agoura Hills, CA WA6LIE-3>CM96EQ,R0MIR*,SCOTT:]`[ W9JIU>APW228,R0MIR*:=3222.10N/11058.33W-PHG7240/WinAprs2.2.3 -AZPIMTUCSON -228-<520> N6CDJ>APS199,R0MIR*:>050035z[199]APRS+SA w/ Peet wx.. An APA member station. KC5DHE>APR830,R0MIR*:=3303.0 N/09645.0 W-Tom in Plano,TX KB0WZI-1>S9URRW,R0MIR*:`qXtl [/>DNVR kb0wzi@rmi.net KC7ZRU-2>APW228,R0MIR*:=4118.53N/10535.35WyPHG3192/Laramie's WIDEn-n and TRACE digi -WYALBLARAMIE -228-<530> N7SFI>DN40ER,R0MIR*:ny4i hi KU0G>APW228,R0MIR*::BLN1 :Howdy from Cowtown! KCMO!!!{011 On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:47:11 -0400 (EDT), you wrote: > >> I got 2 my packets!! What fun!! > >ATTENTION: I want to put together a file of all the users who >participated in this test so that we can possibly use it to help justify >future experiments. I was going to ask for a volunteer to piece all the >Email together and then realized that my own HT holds a running list of >all MIR calls heard here in MD (as long as I dont tune to 144.39). > >So if there is anyone else in the NW, SW, Texas, North Central, and FLA >that can also keep their radios virgin until this is over, then we can >simply add up those lists at the end... > >Or if there IS A VOLUNTEER to scrap together what is reported here, then >that would be appreciated... > >By the way, how many THD7 users aer on this SIG anyway? > >bob > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: N6GPS@GARLIC.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 01:35:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id BAA00151 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 01:35:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: kohlwey@mail.xmission.com Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 00:34:51 -0600 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Randolph Kohlwey Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS and Digital 2-ways Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.1.32.19990604224703.011fbec0@mail.xmission.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990605003451.011fe4c0@mail.xmission.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Bob and others: An "Idea" for mixing APRS and DIGITAL 2-way QSO's on a single FM satellite channel. Background: Listen to AO-27 on a weekend. If the right people are on and cooperate it has been possible to almost get 2-ways between 18 different hams on the satellite in one pass. In thinking how this worked and giving up on training and getting the hams to follow it I thought it might work if it was enforced by the satellite software and done with all users using 9600 bps packet. The same problem exist on Mir. Some people are trying to use the BBS, others are trying for 2-ways and now others are trying to do APRS. How and When: I am working on the JAWSAT amateur satellite that is scheduled to be launched in September of this year. It should have two VHF 2m uplinks (145.960 MHz and 145.xxx) and two UHF 70cm (437.175 and 437.075) downlinks. Each can do 9k6 packet and voice. As of now we do not plan on it being a store and forward BBS. It will have files to be downloaded by WISP but uploading from WISP will not be implemented. At some point down the way (approx. 6 months) I may be able to experiment with some new digital modes. A FM bent pipe will be on one pair of frequencies and the other will be for the digital. At the bottom of this posting is my reply about dumb terminal UI packet users on Mir. I have ex paned on it with reply to Bob reply. I hope to have time to expand on it more in several months. But for now here is my reply to Bobs reply. Bob At 01:16 AM 6/5/99 -0400, you wrote: >Don't confuse a 2-way with requiring an ACK. Two differnet animals. > >ANyone can do a 2 way via MIR or any poor channel. Just keep trying. > >But if the chance is 10% of a packet getting through, then the chance of >getting an ACK back is 10% of 10% or 1%. AND NOONE wants to watch you >send your message 100 times just to get the ack. The ACK I was referring to was another packet from the other station with my callsign in it. If he knows he had it repeated by Mir then he knows I could have seen it. It helps if you can run full duplex so you hear every thing coming down from the satellite. From Mir this is hard unless you gateway it out on another frequency from a remote location. On the 9600 birds it will be easier. JAWSAT could downlink on 70cm with 8 watts with a receiver on the ground like the PCR-1000 with AFC, it adjust for Doppler. You need some good filters to wipe out your 2 meter harmonics. >If two stations are doing a 2-way without waiting for acks, then each one Once again not an ack from mir but a packet from the other ground station with some information so you know it was directed at you. >gets 10% probabilty which isnt too bad... It would be bad to write any >code that demands ACKS via a poor channel... Unless you then add >redundancy to the ACK. APRSdos does this, but Mac/Win/APRS+SA dont... The code would be like the PACSATs in that there will be a PB packet that would be a queue of callsigns requesting to do 2 ways contacts. When your call came first on the queue you would then send your information for each of the other calls on the queue to the satellite which would then transmit it. If the first entry on the queue is CQ then stations can send their grid locator and ask to be added to the queue. When it is your turn to transmit you could send your APRS format to APRS and it would be relayed back to a central ground station for insertion into the Internet. The satellite would also kept a record of all the successful 2-ways in a log which could be downlinked to the ground in a compressed format. The log could be used to verify 2-ways for awards, QSL card checking etc. >> >Our chances of convincing them to type in our format is small... oh >> >well... Please put the format some place on your APRS home pages where one can find it. There are lots of pointers to the various programs but not many how to do it on MIR without one of the APRS programs. 73, Randy ========================================================================= Here is my original reply to Bob ========================================================================= > At 10:38 PM 6/4/99 -0400, you wrote: > >On Fri, 4 Jun 1999, Thomas M. Schaefer wrote: > > > >> Well, on the 1852 pass and the 1715 (MDT) passes, both times I saw my > packet > >> repeated by the D7. I heard lots of stations on my mobile rig, but not much > >> on the D7. > > > >Yep, I notice that too... Problem is that the THD7 will only see standard > >APRS stations and other THD7's. It will not see other dumb-terminal UI > >users. And the majority of users on the MIR channel are such UI users. > > Maybe we want to see if someone is connected to the Mir BBS before we send > our UI packets. > > >Our chances of convincing them to type in our format is small... oh > >well... > > Maybe not if you add an extension so we could request an acknowledgement > from a particular callsign. That way you could track where we > are and we could get a 2-way exchange so it qualifies for one of the > awards (VUCC, WAS etc) on Satellite. I would write my own program to look > for calls that are in of the grid squares that I was looking for and send > a request to those callsigns only. > > Better yet if you did that I might leave my OSCAR station on all the time > and gateway the calls into the Internet. > > I am not the only one who gets frustrated when I hear some in a grid square > I have been trying to work for several years. Can you just imagine the > uproar if someone got on HF from a rare DXCC county and just transmitted > "Hey! I am on Heard Island" for example but would not do any 2 way contacts. > > I am the one doing the communications for JAWSAT and also helping out on the > flight software. I may implement a digital queued 2-WAY QSO system on JAWSAT > that would allow for a maximum of exchanges on one FM channel (VHF up/UHF > down). > I could enhance it so it would let APRS be digipeated and play in the queue. > I may only do that if there is someway to get 2way contacts with the APRS > ground stations. > > 73, Randy N7SFI > > --------------------------------------------------- 73, Randy N7SFI --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 09:14:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA15763 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:14:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:14:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@amsat.org, sarex@amsat.org Subject: [htaprs] Saturday's MIR passes (USA) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk MIR normally switches to SSTV on the weekends and turns off Packets, but anything from space on 145.985 is still fun. These pass times are only approximate for your time zone. PDT MDT CDT EDT Besides, anyone can see the SSTV ---- ---- ---- ---- pictures too, by simply taking the ... ... ... 1148 audio from their receiver into their ... ... 1220 1323 sound card and using W95SSTV or other 1152 1254 1357 1500 SSTV software. 1327 1429 1532 1634 1503 1605 1707 1810 1639 1742 1845 1947 1815 1918 2021 2124 1950 2052 2155 ... 2127 If there are any TYPOS in there, just remember, MIR orbits the earth once every 95 minutes or so and we simply rotate underneath that orbit on our 24 hour cycle... Notice, that the "time frame" of passes is the same worldwide "local time". Once you hear them, then just add 95 minutes for the next pass no matter where you are... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 11:08:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA19179 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:08:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:08:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [sarex] Saturday's MIR passes (USA) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk MIR Fans, Nothing heard 1st pass. BUT if this is like yesterday, then, maybe they are using the radio while they are awake. When they go to sleep after 1500 or so EDT, then maybe they switch it back to 145.985. That might explain yesterday too... de WB4APR > MIR normally switches to SSTV on the weekends and turns off Packets, but > anything from space on 145.985 is still fun. > > PDT MDT CDT EDT Besides, anyone can see the SSTV > ---- ---- ---- ---- pictures too, by simply taking the > ... ... ... 1148 audio from their receiver into their > ... ... 1220 1323 sound card and using W95SSTV or other > 1152 1254 1357 1500 SSTV software. > 1327 1429 1532 1634 > 1503 1605 1707 1810 > 1639 1742 1845 1947 > 1815 1918 2021 2124 > 1950 2052 2155 ... > 2127 > > If there are any TYPOS in there, just remember, MIR orbits the earth once > every 95 minutes or so and we simply rotate underneath that orbit on our > 24 hour cycle... > > Notice, that the "time frame" of passes is the same worldwide "local > time". Once you hear them, then just add 95 minutes for the next pass > no matter where you are... > > de WB4APR, Bob > > ---- > Via the sarex mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA. > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe sarex" to Majordomo@amsat.org > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 14:15:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA23138 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:15:54 -0500 (CDT) From: n6gps@garlic.com (Brent Bolen) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Mir pass at noon PDT Saturday Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 19:17:08 GMT Organization: Lazy Bee Software Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375b7705.146386617@garlic.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id OAA23138 For what it is worth, Mir seems to still be digi'ing packets today. We had a low pass here at 19:00 UTC, and I heard these packets. Only saw one of mine bounch. N6TVZ-7>SSSYRQ,R0MIR*:`-Q9l n\>D7A-tom@spectron.net N0JY-6>CQ,R0MIR*:N0JY Springtown TX EM13da N5MML>BILL,R0MIR*: N5MML>BILL,R0MIR*: R0MIR>BEACON:MIR SPACE STATION N5MML>BILL,R0MIR*:Greetings from Louisiana n5mml@aol.com KC5JIF-4>3U1PST,R0MIR*:`mS}l [/>TH-D7A PORTABLE N0JY-5>CQ,R0MIR*:N0JY Springtown TX EM13da n6gps --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 14:46:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA23780 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:46:18 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 15:49:24 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mir pass at noon PDT Saturday References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3759A974.842E12CF@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have not heard any activity today in Florida. Paul AJ4Y...waiting for the next pass!! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 15:59:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA25743 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:59:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 15:58:24 -0500 From: Bob X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 15:40 EST Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37598F70.98CE44BD@iupui.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I got posits from the following stations in central Indiana on the 15:40 EST pass. VE3XF-2 VE3FTA-7 N3UYI-7 WB4APR-7 KA2BQE-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 16:22:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA26506 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:22:29 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:22:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Saturday's MIR passes (USA) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Yep, they're back on packet for 3rd pass. My THD7 now has captured 25 other THD7's so far. I will post them eventually when we finish this test (no end in sight ) On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Bob Bruninga wrote: > Nothing heard 1st pass. BUT if this is like yesterday, then, maybe they > are using the radio while they are awake. When they go to sleep after > 1500 or so EDT, then maybe they switch it back to 145.985. > > > > PDT MDT CDT EDT > > ---- ---- ---- ---- > > ... ... ... 1148 < nothing > > ... ... 1220 1323 < nothing > > 1152 1254 1357 1500 < They're back! > > 1327 1429 1532 1634 < lots of activity > > 1503 1605 1707 1810 > > 1639 1742 1845 1947 > > 1815 1918 2021 2124 > > 1950 2052 2155 ... > > 2127 > > > > If there are any TYPOS in there, just remember, MIR orbits the earth once > > every 95 minutes or so and we simply rotate underneath that orbit on our > > 24 hour cycle... > > > > Notice, that the "time frame" of passes is the same worldwide "local > > time". Once you hear them, then just add 95 minutes for the next pass > > no matter where you are... > > > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > ---- > > Via the sarex mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA. > > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe sarex" to Majordomo@amsat.org > > > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: > > Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org > US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 > See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html > See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html > See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html > > > ---- > Via the amsat-bb mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA. > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe amsat-bb" to Majordomo@amsat.org > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 17:30:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA27849 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:30:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 18:29:35 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] Mir Success!? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On the 6:10EST pass I finally got a "MY PACKET" back! Did it show up in anyone list!? Didn't really think I would since a marginal pass at best for my QTH. I'm in NC at EM96KD. Stations that showed up in my list were: N3UYI-7 N1QZG VE3XF-2 NH7C Saw a few others but forgot calls as they did not show up in my list. KD9??? and somebody else. Sorry but didn't catch it at the time. Also got bln stating "N4UYI IN PA GREETINGS!" I senta bln also stating "HI DE RICK" but not sure if it got through or not. Great test of HT coverage! As always Ham Radio still thrills and amazes me and for the life of me I can't figure out why more don't do it? Go figure.. waiting for next pass. Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 19:12:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA00140 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:12:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 20:09:20 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] MIR Success again.. To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Got a "MY PACKET" again. However, does not appears it showed up on the server? Oh well... Heard KO4UU-7, N3UYI-7, NH7C-9, and N1QAG (Assuming I didn't get them mixed up from last time). So far I have 11 stations in my D7 heard list out of 3 passes I have listened to and have got a my packet out of two of them. Bob was right about moving the HT antenna around. Most of time 45 degrees seems to work best here but figure different next time. Having fun with MIR and the D7! Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 19:25:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA00449 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:25:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 20:24:30 -0400 From: Michael Leeper X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 1952 EDT Mir pass. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3759BFBE.D58C7920@mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello all form Cumberland, Md. These are the stations I decoded on the 1952 EDT pass of Mir at my location of FM09PP. N2IPH-7 WB4APR-9 N3UYI-7 NH7C-9 N4WYK-7 KB8RWI I tried to send a message but didn't get it through. I hope the high thin clouds disappear before the next pass, it would be fun to see Mir as well as digi through it. Last pass and next pass should be close to directly overhead, the best ones I have seen today on winorbit. 73 KO4UU Michael --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 19:32:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA00527 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 19:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 20:35:03 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 1952 EDT Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3759EC67.A3B10738@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Only hear WB4APR-9 this pass. Actually only heard about 4-5 transmissions of anything. Hope the next pass is better. Paul AJ4Y EL97bx --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 20:39:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA02100 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:39:48 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Pass at 1634 EDT busy and longest yet Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:39:34 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I went out at 1630 and started copying MIR packets by 1633 and was still copying packets at 1646. I was surpirsed how long this pass lasted. Seemed quite busy. Somone earlier mentioned about antenna oreintation. This time I was watching the S-meter and had my TM-261 on in the cra with volume up loud so I could hear it. It was definietly copying mor ethan the D-7 so I would watch the S-meter on the D-7 and maneuver the antenna. I think I was more successful this time than in the pass, but there is still a tendency to move the HT whilst trying to use the keyboard. next time I am taking out my Palm3 w/PocketAPRS. That should be easier than that tiny keyboard and my large hands! I copied WB4APR-7 several times N1QAG (Tad , FN34TX, here in VT 40 miles from me) twice WD4RPV-7 (FM09VC) twice N3UYI-7 (FM19PS) twice VE3FTA-7 (FN03EQ) I got messages digipeated to N1QAG and WD4RPV-7 I received a BLN from WB4APR-7 Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "ADMINISPHERE - The rarefied organizational layers beginning just above the rank and file. Decisions that fall from the adminisphere are often profoundly inappropriate or irrelevant to the problems they were designed to solve." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 21:23:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA03634 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:23:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 22:23:06 -0400 From: Michael Leeper X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2124 EDT Mir pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3759DB8A.74B69502@mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well I was able to get in on this pass also. Stations to add to my list heard form FM09PP. AJ4V-7 New KR4VL-7 New KF4ERV-7 New WB5FBS New N2IPH-7 New WB4APR-9 N3UYI-7 NH7C-9 N4WYK-7 KB8RWI A total of 10 in two passes not to bad, but I am wasting time trying to send a message and get an ack back. I also hate to think that with all the attempts at sending the message out that I might be interfering with another station. Now that I have the hang of it, I seam to be able to get into MIR on any reasonable orbit that gets over 5 degrees of the horizon for at least three minutes. This is with a stock antenna. I have the Comet SMA-24 coming on Monday. Has anyone tried this mobile with 12vt. auto power and GPS attached and running what if any interference might you have had? That's all for now Michael KO4UU in Cumberland, MD 73. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 22:19:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA04930 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:19:39 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 23:22:48 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2120 EDT pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375A13B8.E886548C@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk KR4YL-7 and KD4TWB-7 were both new calls heard on this pass. Both are here in Central Florida. Strongest sigs heard so far this weekend...full scale at times. But fewer packets decoded. Seems to decode the weaker sigs better from Mir. Perhaps something to do with polarization??? Paul AJ4Y --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 22:29:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA05158 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:29:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: 2120 EDT pass Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:28:11 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > KR4YL-7 and KD4TWB-7 were both new calls heard on this pass. Both are > here in Central Florida. > > Strongest sigs heard so far this weekend...full scale at times. But > fewer packets decoded. Seems to decode the weaker sigs better from > Mir. Perhaps something to do with polarization??? I copied tons of strong signals almost the entire duration of the pass. Only packet decoded on the D7 was from R0MIR actually. I had my base monitoring and it saw KD4TWB-7 and a CO7 call accessing the PBBS. I heard some packets on the 2300 EDT pass but was watching a movie in the other room so wasn't paying much attention. Besides it was a very low pass. Glad to finally have got a packet through R0MIR! 73 Paul KR4YL EL87ov --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 22:30:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA05193 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:30:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 19:50 PDT pass of MIR.... Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:29:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC604B6F0EB@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Very busy this pass... I copied the following stations here in El Dorado Hills, CA (near Sacramento) - grid square CM98: KC7ZRU-2 WD6BFC KE6VRL-7 KE6JAB-7 VE3CBJ-7 N6GPS-3 73, Ed ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 22:31:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA05212 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:31:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: 2120 EDT pass Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:29:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > KR4YL-7 and KD4TWB-7 were both new calls heard on this pass. Both are > here in Central Florid BTW - station was D7 with stock 9.6V battery and stock antenna. I went looking for my SMA/BNC adaptor so I could use my MFJ 1/2 wave but didn't find it. 73 Paul --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 22:37:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA05436 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:37:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:37:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: 2124 EDT Mir pass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > SOMEONE SAID: Well I was able to get in on this pass also.... > A total of 10 in two passes not to bad, but I am wasting time trying to > send a message and get an ack back. Correct. If your chances of getting a message digipeated are say 1 in 10, then the chance of the ACK getting back are also 1 in 10. THus you must transmit the message 100 times to get 10 digipeatts so that of the 10 acks you will probably maybe get ONE back. This is why we MUST not try for ACKS via MIR (or any other poor probability channel.) OPERATIONG PROCEDURES: 1) Once you see the message digipeated, then stop sending it. (Select message and hit DEL key). Any further attempts are just QRM to everyone else who already saw your message. 2) The THD7 can only see messages to others if they are Bulletins. So to give us all something to see, please consider sending your messages to othes as bulletins. (Send to BLN# where # is a 1 digit serial number). Then those of us monitoring with our THD7's will have more to show off... de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 5 22:38:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA05472 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:38:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:38:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: 2120 EDT pass In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Paul Womble wrote: > Strongest sigs heard so far this weekend...full scale at times. But > fewer packets decoded. Seems to decode the weaker sigs better from > Mir. Perhaps something to do with polarization??? THD7 only decodes APRS packets. Most of packets on MIR are not APRS. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 00:21:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA15663 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:21:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:20:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] SUndays MIR passes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, at the risk of boring you, here are the MIR passes for SUnday. If you have a THD7 or other QRP packet station (5w), come join us with UI frames or APRS via R0MIR on 145.985. Please, share the time. Your objective is only to get one or 2 packets digipeated and to see how many other stations you capture... If the BBS is in use, drop to 1 Watt. PDT MDT CDT EDT ---- ---- ---- ---- ... ... 1113 1213 1046 1146 1249 1352 1219 1321 1424 1527 1355 1457 1600 1700 1531 1633 1735 1838 1706 1808 1910 2013 1842 1944 2047 2150 2018 2120 ... ... Actually, since I have gotten in on EVERY pass that I have tried, while using only the 5 watt HT and the rubber duck, I think I will back off and drop to 1 watt for a while to see how that goes. This is 16 dB below any conventional 50 watt station trying to use the BBS. He will capture the MIR receiver every time. No problem... de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 00:31:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA15769 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:31:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:31:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Compared to the fun we are having with communicating with UI frames via MIR in this country, someone just sent me a copy of a MIR pass in Europe. What a waste of bandwidth! I analyzed all 350 packets and here are the statistics broken down into the successful TEXT packets in 3 categories: BBS: 330 packets to transfer 27 useful lines of text = 8% effeciency CNCT: 17 packets to transfer 1 useful line of text = 6% effeciency UI: 2 packets to transfer 2 useful lines of text = 100% effeciency The two UI stations communicated perfectly in 2 packets The two CONNECTED stations communicated 1 line only 1 way with 17 packets 31 of the 33 stations attempting to connect to the BBS accomplished nothing! And still spent 280 packets doing it! BBS'S ARE NOT THE WAY TO USE PACKET RADIO ON SATELLITES! You may argue that the BBS is for the crew. EVEN SO, with the right software (APRS), these same 350 packets could have exchanged 350 lines of text traffic to and from the crew or anyone else if they had only used UI packets! Here are the details if you are interesetd: 350 TOTAL BBS RELATED PACKETS AS FOLLOWS (2 users got logged on): 280 DISCONNECT-BUSY packets 150 from just 6 stations! 30 Lines of BBS overhead LINES (welcome, command prompts, etc) 20 Acks and RETRIES and CHECKS 17 lines of HEARD LOG 10 message headers listed (at least 2 times each) 0 messages read (ZERO) 17 STATION-TO-STATION REQ/and RETRIES to convey only ONE LINE! 1 message line conveyed 2 APRS TYPE Position/STATUS packets conveying station position and status CONCLUSION: If we designed Amateur Satellites to be dumb digipeaters for UI frames only, then every successful packet CONTAINS USEFUL INFORMATION. In this case there would have been 350 lines of data, not just 29. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 08:02:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA04336 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 08:02:10 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org, aprssig@tapr.org, aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 06:48:27 +0100 Subject: [htaprs] Re: [sarex] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 5-7,9-68 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: kd4sff@juno.com List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990602.064827.-3964095.0.kd4sff@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I believe the problem is the 280 disconnects you listed below, caused by poor operators not monitoring the downlink, and not waiting for the connected station to disconnect. I have sent questions to MIR crews in the past, usually without receiving any disconnects. There is nothing more thrilling ( besides a voice QSO ) than to connect to the MIR's PBBS, and have mail waiting, from a cosmonaut! So I guess to each his own. TNX & 73, Al / KD4SFF On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 01:31:40 -0400 (EDT) Bob Bruninga writes: >Compared to the fun we are having with communicating with UI frames >via >MIR in this country, someone just sent me a copy of a MIR pass in >Europe. >What a waste of bandwidth! I analyzed all 350 packets and here are >the >statistics broken down into the successful TEXT packets in 3 >categories: > >BBS: 330 packets to transfer 27 useful lines of text = 8% >effeciency >CNCT: 17 packets to transfer 1 useful line of text = 6% >effeciency >UI: 2 packets to transfer 2 useful lines of text = 100% >effeciency > >The two UI stations communicated perfectly in 2 packets >The two CONNECTED stations communicated 1 line only 1 way with 17 >packets >31 of the 33 stations attempting to connect to the BBS accomplished > nothing! And still spent 280 packets doing it! > >BBS'S ARE NOT THE WAY TO USE PACKET RADIO ON SATELLITES! > >You may argue that the BBS is for the crew. EVEN SO, with the right >software (APRS), these same 350 packets could have exchanged 350 >lines >of text traffic to and from the crew or anyone else if they had only >used >UI packets! > >Here are the details if you are interesetd: > >350 TOTAL BBS RELATED PACKETS AS FOLLOWS (2 users got logged on): > 280 DISCONNECT-BUSY packets 150 from just 6 stations! > 30 Lines of BBS overhead LINES (welcome, command prompts, etc) > 20 Acks and RETRIES and CHECKS > 17 lines of HEARD LOG > 10 message headers listed (at least 2 times each) > 0 messages read (ZERO) > > 17 STATION-TO-STATION REQ/and RETRIES to convey only ONE LINE! > 1 message line conveyed > > 2 APRS TYPE Position/STATUS packets conveying station position and > status > >CONCLUSION: If we designed Amateur Satellites to be dumb digipeaters >for >UI frames only, then every successful packet CONTAINS USEFUL >INFORMATION. >In this case there would have been 350 lines of data, not just 29. > >de WB4APR, Bob > > >---- >Via the sarex mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA. >To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe sarex" to Majordomo@amsat.org ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 11:38:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA11535 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 11:38:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 12:34:20 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] Mir Info To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk For the record.. Those heard via the D7 and rubberduck out of four passes so far are: N4QWF-14 AJ4J-7 KR4YL-7 WB4FBS KO4UU-7 N3UYI-7 NH7C-9 N1QAG VE3XF-2 NH7C KU4GY-7 WB4APR-7 W4GU N8UR-7 Have had several bulletins. However, pleae remember the D7 can only receive up to 45 characters if my memory serves me correctly. Have one bln that goes beyond and can't read end of it even scrolling right. Didn't get in on the 12:13EST pass but not a good one here. Continue to try today as time permits. See ya there... Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 13:18:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA14267 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:18:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 14:10:15 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] Best pass yet!!! To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This was bar none the best pass for me yet! Got a couple of packets through and heard following. G3ZFJ-7 NH7C-7 W1GTT-3 KS4XQ (Got msg and sent one back and got ack back surprisingly enough!) W4GV N4ZQ (also got BLN from him) KF4ERV-7 W9MDO-2 NH7CC-7 N3UYI-7 (got BLN) That's all for now! 73... Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 13:38:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA14667 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:38:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 14:36:28 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] QSL stuff while working MIR??? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk O.K. I have a question. What would be proper procedure of doing QSL cards for working thru MIR? If you work thru MIR do you get a QSL card from them? If someone hears you and you hear them but no MSG does that constitute a QSL? I know these are dumb questions but been a while since I tried to work DX via HF or anything else. Great way to get more grid squares. Inquiring minds want to know?! Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 13:42:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA14779 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 13:42:44 -0500 (CDT) From: NH7C@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:41:48 EDT Subject: [htaprs] MIR PASS - 1748 UTC 6 JUN 99 From W8/NH7C To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The following stations were heard at W8/NH7C, a home station in West Carrollton, Ohio (south of Dayton): N4ZQ with a message to NH7C N5MML KU4LY-7 WA6YET R0MIR-1 KM5HG R0MIR KS4XQ NN0V W9MDO-2 W4GV N4WYK-7 KB9UKD with a "Hi Sid" message N5UXQ N3UYI-7 G3ZFJ-7 NH7C NH7C-9 NH7CC-7 Andrea and I went to a local park to take advantage of an unobstructed view of the sky for this overhead pass. NH7C is the home station NH7C-9 is my TH-D7A NH7CC-7 is Andrea's TH-D7A We have been having a blast working through MIR. I was so excited about satellites this weekend, I even made a few QSOs on RS-13 with the HF rig - 15 meters uplink - 10 meters downlink. I found a great tracking program on the AMSAT site. Look for WinOrbit. It works well for me. 73 and see you via MIR, Sid, NH7C Andrea, NH7CC NH7C@aol.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 14:18:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA15752 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:18:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: pilot.njin.net: magliaco owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:17:03 -0400 (EDT) From: John Magliacane X-Sender: magliaco@pilot.njin.net To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Bob Bruninga wrote: > BBS'S ARE NOT THE WAY TO USE PACKET RADIO ON SATELLITES! That's not entirely true. FO-20 and FO-29 work just fine as BBSs when in Mode JD, and the remaining digital satellites are even better since they use the Pacsat Communications Protocol rather than operate as plain BBSs. The problem with Mir is that is a single user system, and too many groundstations attempt to connect to it or repeatedly digi LONG beacons through it while it is in use. 73, de John, KD2BD -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John A. Magliacane, KD2BD -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Internet : kd2bd@amsat.org | Voice : +1.732.224.2948 Satellite : AO-16, KO-25 | Morse : -.- -.. ..--- -... -.. Packet : KD2BD @ N2SMV.NJ.USA.NA | WWW : http://www.njin.net/~magliaco/ Video : 426.250 MHz/439.250 MHz | FAX : +1.732.224.2060 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Save Jobs. Employ Linux. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 15:00:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA17032 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:00:02 -0500 (CDT) From: NH7C@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:58:58 EDT Subject: [htaprs] MIR PASS - 1924UTC 6JUN99 From W8/NH7C To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi, The following stations were heard at W8/NH7C, a home station in West Carrollton, Ohio (south of Dayton): KS4XQ NN0V KB9UKD with a confirmed QSO with NH7C NH7C KU0G-15 KB5EDB NU0C N7SFI KB0UBZ KB8RWI N0JY-5 N1QAG R0MIR R0MIR-1 VE9MIC KE4SLC VE3KBL WB0WNX-5 I used the BLN messages to send exchanges as Bob, WB4APR advised in a SIG message today. The BLNs were sent in a format of callsign heard-signal report-my name exchange. For example I sent "KB9UKD 599 de Sid" for a complete QSO to KB9UKD. KB9UKD sent a reply that I received. See you on the next pass, Sid, NH7C NH7C@aol.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 15:13:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA17534 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:13:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR - orbit 75950 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:10:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001beb058$e770e9e0$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Was really set for this pass! Had WinAPRS up to monitor and record the activity. Predicted 85.6 degree elevation on the pass. Recorded a LOT of data. Stations, messages, history, the works. Everything tiled neatly on the screen for later review. The map showed a band of stations all across the central US. WinAPRS then decided to do it's first ever 'unhandled exception' error and I lost everything. Was also in the back yard with the TH-D7 but only recorded. N4ZQ 913 miles E KC5DHE Plano TX; 14.7 NE KU0G KC MO; 462 miles N KB8RWA N5AL 195 miles S KC5JIF KC5UWA-7 Carney OK; 195 miles N What was cool about this pass was that MIR was visible during most of it. Was a bright dot that moved very quickly across the sky. Really fun to watch and work it at the same time. Harry, KAØTTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 15:13:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA17558 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:13:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:13:3 Subject: [htaprs] MIR - I made it ! ! To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Bob Derderian" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Hi All, Last night while driving North to West Point I got two shots at MIR. The 19:47 pass and the 20:24 pass. I received a MY PACKET on the first pass but didn't on the second. I saw on the SIG mail that Mike(I think) copied me on the 20:24 pass. Was using the D7 with external mag mount antenna...the tiny Pro-Am dual-band with the 1" dia. rare-earth magnet. It did the trick I'll say that. Tonight I will try again from a cliff-side road overlooking West Point, NY at about 800'elev.(+/- 800') as measured by my GPS-III (isn't SA wonderful?...your tax dollars at waste). 73 es good hunting, Bob D. N2IPH --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 16:08:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA18824 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:08:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: "Don L. Brown" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:12:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: west coast 1:55 pass Priority: normal In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906062107.OAA26672@la.znet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Did anyone see my packet through mir. I did get a "my packet" message. Thanks Don WB6DUO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 16:15:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA19029 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:15:58 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m2270501@mail.9netave.com Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:15:25 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Jerry K9GD Subject: [htaprs] APRS 2100 UTC pass List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Nice pass, was able to send a "Hi" BLN and saw my packets a couple of times I heard: WB4APR-7 KS4XQ VE3KBL-7 VE3XF-2 KB8RWI AND A MSG FROM VE3XF-2 "GA DE VE3XF Jerry K9GD mailto:jerry@k9gd.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 16:57:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA19939 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:57:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:56:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > BBS'S ARE NOT THE WAY TO USE PACKET RADIO ON SATELLITES! John Maglicane rsponded: > That's not entirely true. FO-20 and FO-29 work just fine as BBSs when in > Mode JD, and the remaining digital satellites are even better since they > use the Pacsat Communications Protocol rather than operate as plain BBSs. Absolutely. Sorry, thats what I meant. The pacsat protocol is beautiful for delivering bulk traffic and files to LOTS of people simultaneously. In fact, we should be doing that on the ground too. One 9600 baud channel in your home town, could deliver over a 8 Mbytes of WEB pages and HAm radio news to evveryone's PC every day. APRS's niche is as an everyone-to-everyone protocol, where the size of the traffic is only a line or two per station... Sort of what a lot of HAM radio has always been about... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 18:21:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA21860 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:20:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 19:06:09 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] Another good pass from MIR To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Got another "MY PACKET" through! Those heard on the 1838EST pass are: KE4IAM W1GTT-3 (Rec'd BLN) KB1PZ-12 N2NWZ-7 N3UYI-7 N4QWF-14 VE3XF-2 VA3HI K9GD-7 (Rec'd BLN) KS4XQ (rec'd msg from him) REALLY enjoying it! Thanks for the idea Bob! Look to see more D7's on the air! Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 19:36:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA23517 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:36:27 -0500 (CDT) Errors-To: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 20:38:56 -0700 From: Paul Womble X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2013 pass in EL97bx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375B3ED0.D0B532AE@concentric.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Heard this pass with the D7A: WA4SSP-7 N2IPH-7 G3ZFJ-7 N4WKY-7 KB0NWT There were other stations that were heard but did not make it into the list in the radio. The base station recorded these with aprs format in the packets: N5MML KD5DKL KC7ZRU W4SAT N8UR-7 K4TWE-1 WA6YET Was able to get one postit and one message to N4WKY-7 repeated. Best pass so far this weekend. Paul AJ4Y --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 19:44:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA23717 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:44:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2015EDT MIR Pass Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 20:44:35 -0400 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906070044.UAA21821@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Had a good pass at a bit after 8:00 EDT tonight. Saw myself, and maybe got a BLN and MSG or two through. Here's the list of stations heard tonight: K1HJC 704 miles KE4IAM 340 miles WA4SSP-7 334 miles W2/G3ZFJ-7 590 miles AJ4Y-7 815 miles N4WYK-7 294 miles KB0NWT No position Might have also heard KU4GY, 988 miles, but that may be a dupe from Friday evening -- I forgot to clear my station list before this pass. Sent "HI" messages to K1HJC, AJ4Y-7, and G3ZFJ-7. Received a message (or bull?) from AJ4Y-7, with his email address. 73, John N8UR jra@febo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 19:45:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA23771 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:45:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: jwhughes@mail.lig.bellsouth.net Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 20:38:49 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: John Subject: [htaprs] 20:13 MIR PASS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990606203849.007ca8f0@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >From Gainesville, Fla Stations Heard on the d7: n2iph-7 k1hjc ke4iam wa4ssp-7 kc8yo-9 aj4y-7 n4wyk-7 kb0nwt ku4gy-7 w4gv n4zq kc5ejk-7 ku0g wb4apr-7 n8ur-7 Can't seem to get my own thru though. At least not so far...:) Keep trying! 73 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 20:05:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA24383 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:05:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 21:04:14 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] 8:13 EST MIR pass To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Those heard were: KC8YO-9 G3ZFJ-7 WA4SSP-7 (Congrats John on your fist one!) AJ4Y-7 (got msg from Paul. TNX PAUL! Sent one back but not sure if you got it?) KE4IAM KB0NWT (Got thru SEVERAL times) N8UR-7 Might have been more but trying to keep the heard list virgin on the D7 for now so I can keep up with who I have heard and make a list so not sure of exact starting point. Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 21:38:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA27138 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:38:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] Monday's MIR passes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Lets continue this handheld QRP via MIR test for 2 more days (Mon and Tues) and then let the SIG here have a rest. (I also go in for general surgery on Wed, so cant play anymore). So here are the predicitions for the USA for Monday: PDT MDT CDT EDT ---- ---- ---- ---- ... ... ... 1104 ... ... 1137 1238 1110 1212 1315 1418 1245 1347 1450 1553 1421 1523 1625 1728 1557 1700 1802 1905 1723 1835 1938 2041 1908 2010 2113 2216 2045 2147 Remember, UI frames only, no connects, and QRP only. Anyone wanna try 1 or 2 watts? By the way, remember, we have several advantages operating satellites with an HT compared to a base station. 1) No line loss, no pre-amp needed (Maybe 3 dB better than Home Stn RCV) 2) No line loss on transmit. (Maybe 3 dB better on XMIT) 3) U can easily match polarization (Avoids 6 to 12 dB fades at home) 4) U can hold Ant Horiz to get coverage overhead (avoids 20 dB null) 5) Disadvantage is 6 foot antenna height. But hey, the Horizon is 10 dB down due to range anyway... Thus, during an overhead pass greater than 45 degrees, you might pick up 6 to 12 dB over most Base stations in your area. THese passes only occur once a day or so tho... But still, just matching your antenna angle for maximum strength is something that even base stations cannot do... de Wb4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 6 23:12:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA29509 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Jun 1999 22:28:25 -0500 From: spoiler1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2047CDT MIR Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375B3C59.F715F10D@earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all I heard the following stations during this pass from Carney Oklahoma (just east of OKC) KC7ZRU-2 KB0NWT KC5EJK-7 I didn't get a my packet yet. But I will keep trying 73 Gary KC5UWA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 00:17:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA08714 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:17:06 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:16:14 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] 20:13 MIR PASS data from Dallas TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk 8:50 CDT Sunday 06-06-1999 Dallas Texas I was inside the condo getting ready to go outside when my beacon packet was seen. Standard Th-D7A radio and battery but with 14 inch whip antenna. APRS stations list or grid sq packet. ----------------------------------------------------------- KC5DHE>R0MIR*>APR830:=3303.0 N/09645.0 W-Tom in Plano,TX WA6YET>R0MIR*>EM36EJ: KC5EJK-7>R0MIR*>SRUP8R:`|Ipl [/>HOWDY KC7BXS>R0MIR*>TSSU7P:`|Fql [/> N0JY-5>R0MIR*>CQ:N0JY Springtown TX EM13da 25w to a Lindenblad KG0ND>R0MIR*>EN31ER:]-[hi from iowa-norm-M02- KC7ZRU-2>R0MIR*>APW228:=4118.53N/10535.35WyPHG3192/Laramie, WY DN71eh kc7zru@arrl.net -WYALBLARAMIE -228-<530> KC5UWA-7>R0MIR*>SUTX1V:`}Xql -/>Gary In Carney ,OK N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI:=3106.48N/09720.29Wy Charlie in TEMPLE TX Got on my TH-D7A list as well KC5UWA-7 KC7ZRU-2 ------------------------------------------------------ ### APRS type packet Th-D7A ,Lon/Lat or grid sq. (Raw date from the MIR pass -- TNC to comm program - with R0MIR BBS packets removed) N5MML>R0MIR*>BILL:Hello Paul KM5IB>R0MIR*>JOHN:Hi Charlie KM5IB>R0MIR*>JOHN:hi Paul KM5ET>R0MIR*>KD6IVL [C] N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI:Hello to Paul, John in Mosheim TX, and Bill (N5MML) ###N0JY-5>R0MIR*>CQ:N0JY Springtown TX EM13da 25w to a Lindenblad KB0NWT>R0MIR*>ID:KB0NWT/R KB0NWT-1/B MEMO/N ###KC5DHE>R0MIR*>APR830:=3303.0 N/09645.0 W-Tom in Plano,TX ###KC7BXS>R0MIR*>TSSU7P:`|Fql [/> ###KC5DHE>R0MIR*>APR830:=3303.0 N/09645.0 W-Tom in Plano,TX KM5ET>R0MIR*>KD6IVL [C] KD5GOG>R0MIR*>PAUL:hello tom ###WA6YET>R0MIR*>EM36EJ: N5MML>R0MIR*>BILL: ###KC5EJK-7>R0MIR*>SRUP8R:`|Ipl [/>HOWDY KM5ET>R0MIR*>KD6IVL [C] ###KC7BXS>R0MIR*>TSSU7P:`|Fql [/> N5MML>R0MIR*>BILL: KB0NWT>R0MIR*>ID:KB0NWT/R KB0NWT-1/B MEMO/N KD5GOG>R0MIR*>PAUL: ###N0JY-5>R0MIR*>CQ:N0JY Springtown TX EM13da 25w to a Lindenblad KB0NWT>R0MIR*>BEACON:dave KM5ET>R0MIR*>KD6IVL [C] ###KB0NWT>R0MIR*>BEACON:en30 ###N0JY-5>R0MIR*>CQ:N0JY Springtown TX EM13da 25w to a Lindenblad KB0NWT>R0MIR*>BEACON:CONV KD5GOG>R0MIR*>PAUL:hi charlie ###KG0ND>R0MIR*>EN31ER:]-[hi from iowa-norm-M02- ###KC7ZRU-2>R0MIR*>APW228:=4118.53N/10535.35WyPHG3192/Laramie, WY DN71eh kc7zru@arrl.net -WYALBLARAMIE -228-<530> KC5DHE>R0MIR*>APR830::KC5JOE :Hi {0 KC5JOE-7>R0MIR*>APK001::KC7BXS :HI{5 KM5ET>R0MIR*>KD6IVL [C] N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI:May JOY prevail in Ham Radio long! ###KC5UWA-7>R0MIR*>SUTX1V:`}Xql -/>Gary In Carney ,OK WB5FBS>R0MIR*>BEACON:]-[Greetings via Mir from WB5FBS-Bob-in Hammond, LA KG0ND>R0MIR*>BEACON:cq from iowa kg0nd KB0NWT>R0MIR*>ID:KB0NWT/R KB0NWT-1/B MEMO/N CO7SD>R0MIR*>XE2UR [C] XE2UR>R0MIR*>CO7SD (UA) KC8CLB>R0MIR*>CQ: N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI: R0MIR-1*>CO7SD (DM) N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI: CO7SD>R0MIR*>CO2WQ [C] KB0NWT>R0MIR*>BEACON:kg0nd hello N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI:Temple TX CO7SD>R0MIR*>CO2WQ [C] HR5HAC>R0MIR*>ID:COPAN RUINAS LOS ESPERA PARA QUE ADMIREN SUS BELLEZAS ARQUEOLOGICAS CO7SD>R0MIR*>XE2UR:73 s Tocayo de co7sd (Ricardo) N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI:333333[210 N5TD Charlie in Temple 012[333333 KC5DHE>R0MIR*>APR830::CO7SD :hi {0 ###KC5DHE>R0MIR*>APR830:=3303.0 N/09645.0 W-Tom in Plano,TX KM5IB>R0MIR*>JOHN: KD5GOG>R0MIR*>PAUL: CO7SD>R0MIR*>CO2WQ [C] ###N5TD>R0MIR*>CHARLI:=3106.48N/09720.29Wy Charlie in TEMPLE TX WB5FBS>R0MIR*>BEACON:]-[Greetings via Mir from WB5FBS-Bob-in Hammond, LA HR5HAC>R0MIR*>N5TD [C] CO7SD>R0MIR*>CO2WQ [C] KD5GOG>R0MIR*>PAUL: ------------------ 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 07:48:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA26397 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:48:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tim Cunningham" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" , , , Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:29:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001beb0e3$b4f60780$2a2c45cf@cunninghamt.genrad.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The efficiency problem on MIR stems from using the built-in BBS firmware on the TNC as a single user BBS as mentioned. Since they have a computer tied to the TNC, it would be very easy to convert this system to a multi-user platform by loading a standard BBS package like FBB. Some of the same congestion issues still remain with the amount of people trying to work the orbiting BBS, but it will allow multiple users to be logged on the system at one time. This would in effect reduce the number of BUSY signals that tend to dominate the traffic. Since we cannot control the people attempting to connect MIR, this does offer an alternate solution. Loading the FBB BBS software on their computer would be a rather easy task once it is properly configured. The PACSAT server protocol would be more efficient, but I have never seen an implementation for Windows There is a modified PACSAT server package that operates on the LINUX platform, but they may not be open to such a change since there is little time left for experimentation on the MIR Space Station. Tim - N8DEU Huntsville, AL -----Original Message----- From: John Magliacane To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group ; TAPR APRS Special Interest Group ; aprsnews@tapr.org ; amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org ; sarex@AMSAT.Org Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 2:18 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space > >On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Bob Bruninga wrote: > >> BBS'S ARE NOT THE WAY TO USE PACKET RADIO ON SATELLITES! > >That's not entirely true. FO-20 and FO-29 work just fine as BBSs when in >Mode JD, and the remaining digital satellites are even better since they >use the Pacsat Communications Protocol rather than operate as plain BBSs. > >The problem with Mir is that is a single user system, and too many >groundstations attempt to connect to it or repeatedly digi LONG >beacons through it while it is in use. > > >73, de John, KD2BD > >-- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John A. Magliacane, KD2BD -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Internet : kd2bd@amsat.org | Voice : +1.732.224.2948 >Satellite : AO-16, KO-25 | Morse : -.- -.. ..--- -... -.. >Packet : KD2BD @ N2SMV.NJ.USA.NA | WWW : http://www.njin.net/~magliaco/ >Video : 426.250 MHz/439.250 MHz | FAX : +1.732.224.2060 >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Save Jobs. Employ Linux. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tim_cunningham@mindspring.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 09:22:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA28871 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:22:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Peter Black" From: "Peter Black" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] mir info for South Africa . Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:21:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEB101.C23E50A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001a01beb0f1$02f6fae0$df621fc4@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEB101.C23E50A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please could some one tell me where I could find info on South African = Passes of Mir. I am very jealous of all the fun you guy's are having = with your d-7's and Mir. Could you also tell me how to make it all work with my D-7=20 Many thanks Peter ZR5DWC ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEB101.C23E50A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0017_01BEB101.C23E50A0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 09:30:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA29126 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:30:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Connecting Equipment for Remote Control Date: Mon, 7 Jun 99 09:35:21 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I downloaded the TH-D7 off the Kenwood web site. WOW! You can now download the HT and have it materialzie in front of you?? Cool! No more waiting for UPS. What a great idea! :-) 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 10:41:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA01166 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:41:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:40:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , sarex@amsat.org, amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: mir info for South Africa . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Peter Black wrote: > Please ... where I could find info on South African Passes of Mir. > I am very jealous of all the fun you guy's are having with your d-7's > and Mir. Passes today for MIR over SA are UTC times 2026, 2159, 2338 and then on the 8th of June at 0255, 0428, and 0603. > Could you also tell me how to make it all work with my D-7 Yep, here is how to make it work in APRS packet mode: 1) Tune to 145.985 2) Press TNC button once to enable the TNC in APRS mode. (if the word "packet" appears then you pushed it twice). Press again to start over 2) Be sure you position is entered in the THD7 (APRS MENU 2-3) 3) Set the APRS Data Transmit menu to MANUAL (APRS Menu 2-9) 4) Set your "STATUS TEXT" to your Name or Email (APRS MENU 2-6) 5) Set your PACKET PATH to R0MIR (APRS MENU 2-8) When MIR comes over, and it is not busy, press the BCON button each time you want to send your POSITION/STATTUS packet. WHen you are successful, you will see "MY PACKET" flashed on your screen. You may hear many packets, but the THD7 will only decode and display APRS formatted packets. When you receive other stations, they will appear on your APRS list. Just hit the LIST button to see them and scroll through their data... Once you have mastered this, then you can also send and receive APRS Messages, but you can read all about it in the manual, or I can post here as lesson #2... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 12:30:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA04357 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:30:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:30:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space In-Reply-To: <000001beb0e3$b4f60780$2a2c45cf@cunninghamt.genrad.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 6 Jun 1999, Tim Cunningham wrote: > The efficiency problem on MIR stems from using the TNC single user > BBS as mentioned.... it would be easy to convert this system to > a multi-user package like FBB.... Some of the same congestion issues > still remain with the amount of people trying to work the orbiting BBS, > but it will allow multiple users to be logged on the system at one time. Thanks, Tim. Unfortunately, I suspect this will just result in 10 users with no success and much worse due to all their RETRY and ACKs, instead of one user with no success. The problem is the useless CONNECT-REQUESTS and BUSY-RESPONSE from the other 50 stations on frequency. Human nature being what it is, there is no way to solve this problem, other than putting ground station software at each users QTH to force them to share. Thats what the PACSAT protocol is very good at.. and as you indicated... ALthough it may appear that UI frames are EGO-SERVERS, this is not the main reason why they would be so good on MIR or ISS or anyother Amateur Satellite. It is because UI's can deliver the SAME messages to EVERYONE that makes them ideal for MIR. If MIR was transmitting a series of UI frames containing all the important messages regarding MIR on a continuous basis, then FAR more people would receive the messages than the current process of ONE-PERSON-PER-PASS. During a 5 minute pass, and say transmitting only 1 such MIR BULLETIN packet every 3 seconds, MIR could deliver over 100 lines of message traffic to everyone PER PASS and still leave 66% of the time available for UI station-to-station communications. This is exactly what this UI-DIGIPEATER-IN-SPACE (and APRS) is all about. Its not just for us on the ground. It is an effecient means for delivering LOTS of useful packets to LOTS of folks at the same time. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 13:08:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA05714 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:08:46 -0500 (CDT) X-Lotus-FromDomain: TMK@TMKINET From: "Bill McLarty" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 13:05:14 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] MIR success Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <86256789.0063C6EF.00@mail.trustmark.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk During the 1645Z pass I heard K4EVH-7, KD4HTW, K4TWE-1, and KU4LY-7 from Jackson, Mississippi (EM42). I also saw messages from Bob, W4APR. MY PACKET was received twice. Did anyone hear me? Bill McLarty, KM5GE --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 14:38:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA06925 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:38:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:39:26 -0500 From: spoiler1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Success finally Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C1FEE.A217AE1E@earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Although I have gotten e-mail replies that my call was seen on their thd7's I finally got a MY PACKET on the 1315CDT pass today. I also copied the following 4 messages W8XF-7 KD4HTW KE9NA-1 JON IN HIS JEEP! what great fun this is 73 Gary KC5UWA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 15:04:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA07753 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:04:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 13:04:03 -0700 From: "Kurt A.F. Kiesow III" Organization: NTG X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Success finally References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C25B2.E4D1699C@ntgi.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Gave it a shot today w/ 5 watts on a small ground plane (simulating camping...) here's who I heard: KF6QNC>APRS:!3718.75N/12152.50WG R0MIR>APRS:!9000.00N/18000.00W W6LSW-7>APRS:!3845.86N/12035.20Wk N6CO>APRS:!3813.75N/12022.50WG WA2AGE-7>APRS:!3908.00N/12108.00W[ KK5YY-7>APRS:!3549.71N/10611.90W[ NY4I-7>APRS:!4032.33N/11151.15W[ N5CV>APRS:!3725.00N\12203.00Wn -- Kurt A.F. Kiesow III KF6QNC President - The Network Technology Group, Inc. Voice (408) 494-0310 Fax (408) 494-0303 http://www.ntgi.com Success: To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others Unknown "Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance" Anonymous --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 15:52:06 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA09556 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:52:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] MIR Report Date: Mon, 7 Jun 99 15:54:39 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906072051.PAA09528@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Got through on MIR today on the 13:15 and 14:50 CDT passes. Heard nothing during the 11:37 pass. On the 13:15 pass I heard the following stations: N1QAG KD4HTW W8XF-7 WA0GWA-7 I also saw a couple of other packets on my TH-D7A that came across as ?? I failed to write those calls down. During the 14:50 pass, I saw and heard hardly anything. I got through and saw a MY PACKET but the only thing I decoded was WB8YFL and that was a ?? packet. I heard plenty of packets but with the D7's crappy TNC decoding abilitites, I couldn't copy much. The signals needed to be half scale at least to decode and neither pass gave me many signals above half scale. It was still awesome fun to realize that my signals had been received and bounced back by a space craft! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 15:57:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA09767 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:57:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Ed Palmer" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR success Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:56:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003201beb128$461d3500$62194810@palmered1.pso.dec.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bill, I heard you on the 1645Z pass while I was mobile on I-10 between Slidell and New Orleans, LA. In addition to seeing KM5GE-7, I also got WB4APR-7, K4TWE-1, KD4HTW, and K4EVH-7. I had a "?? KN4HH-9" a couple of times, too. 73, --Ed ----- Ed Palmer, KU4LY Navarre, FL ku4ly@arrl.net -----Original Message----- From: Bill McLarty > Did anyone hear me? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 16:35:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA10842 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:35:21 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A and Open squelch Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:34:52 -0600 Message-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: c_watson@asi.admworld.com List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001beb12d$546bace0$9bdda8b6@clayton.admworld.com> Precedence: bulk I was wondering (uh oh) if the D7 is capable of open squelch. I have tested and found when the radio is on APRS mode that it will not transmit when the squelch is opened but I have not tested to see if it will do open squelch in packet mode using APRS (i.e. winaprs, dosaprs...). Anyone try this yet?? Thanks and 73 Clayton Watson --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 16:36:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA10887 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:36:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 14:35:24 -0700 From: "Kurt A.F. Kiesow III" Organization: NTG X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] More Mir Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C3B1C.A7D17219@ntgi.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On the 14:20 (PDT) pass I copied the following in San Jose Ca.: KF6QNC>APRS:!3718.75N/12152.50WG R0MIR>APRS:!9000.00N/18000.00W KB6LWN>APRS:!3846.25N/12242.50WG KB7WWP>APRS:!4336.55N\11617.75WK AB7QN-1>APRS:!4418.81N/12405.66Wy NY4I-7>APRS:!4032.33N/11151.15W[ K7GPS-7>APRS:!4632.00N/12323.00W[ KB8RWI>APRS:!9000.00N/18000.00W -- Kurt A.F. Kiesow III KF6QNC President - The Network Technology Group, Inc. Voice (408) 494-0310 Fax (408) 494-0303 http://www.ntgi.com Success: To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others Unknown "Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance" Anonymous --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 16:36:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA10901 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR Report Date: Mon, 7 Jun 99 14:36:06 -0700 From: David Dobbins To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <21415469154998@Localaccess.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I heard KB8RWI (I think I got this right, as TH-D7 memory was full) during pass about 1430PDT today. Dave/K7GPS-7 David S. Dobbins Amateur Radio K7GPS Pe Ell, Washington NWAPRS Coordinator 360-291-3707 www.nwaprs.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 16:59:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA11510 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:59:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:58:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: htaprs@tapr.org, amsat-bb@amsat.org, sarex@amsat.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: mir info for South Africa . In-Reply-To: <375C436B.3978@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, John wrote: > > Once you have mastered this, then you can also send and receive APRS > > Messages, but you can read all about it in the manual, or I can post here > > as lesson #2... > > Bob, lesson #2 would be nice. OK, Here is how to send messges from the THD7. FIrst you must enter the call of who to send it to, and then the message. In the THD7 there are several ways: 1) Press MSG and select INPUT. THen input the call and the message. 2) If you press MSG while on either the POSITIONS LIST or the MSG LIST, then it will pre-load the callsign of the station you are looking at. 3) Once a message is entered, it will be transmitted once per minute for up to 5 minutes. Then it will stop. 4) You can force a transmission at any time by pressing MSG-TRANSMIT menu. These do not count against the 5 miunute counter. THus, if you manually force a transmission, and are successful with an ACK, then please cancel it. THis is done by listing the MSG and then presseing DEL key. 5) I have 3 messages I am using on MIR. I just go select one of them left over from before, and press MSG. It copies the old message, and allows me to edit the message. THen press OK to send it. Have fun! Remember, even without MIR, if you are anywhere within the Northa American APRS infrastructure (144.39 MHz) you should be able to send and receive such messages to anyone anywhere else within the infrastructure due to the transparent IGATE glue that glues the whole APRS world together... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 17:24:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA12432 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:24:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:23:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR Report In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > I heard plenty of packets but with the D7's crappy TNC decoding > abilitites, I couldn't copy much. The signals needed to be half scale at > least to decode and neither pass gave me many signals above half scale. How can you tell? A dead full quieting packet that is not APRS will not be decoded at all. Maybe all the packets you are hearing are BBS traffic, DM frames, or ACKS... My THD7 can hear down to 3 LCD segments and wuite noisy signals... (but only the APRS packets of course)... de WB4APR, Bob > > It was still awesome fun to realize that my signals had been received and > bounced back by a space craft! > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:05:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA13550 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:05:34 -0500 (CDT) From: RogerKola@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:03:09 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: htaprs@lists.tapr.org, aprssig@tapr.org, aprsnews@tapr.org, amsat-bb@amsat.org, sarex@amsat.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <451fa6f7.248da9ad@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk As an old time user (RS-6 CW) I would just like to make a comment that has been running in my brain for a couple of years..... Many of the operators trying to connect continuously to MIR are simply "DX'ers" looking for a new "zone" or "country" and a QSL... Why not take "ROMIR"... the local keyboard...and have it dish out "contact numbers" ...which are quickly QSL'ed.. and eliminate the DX portion of the "pileups"? That leaves the genuine users of the BBS and the Obsessive-Compulsives to fight for the 10 minute passes... I have nothing against DX'ers or Obsessive- Compulsives...."Been there...Done that...Got the T-Shirt".... But with "Newbies" coming in every day (nothing against them either..been there too) ...This would be a way to clear maybe 50% of the uplinks and eliminate some of the hits.... If I'm out of line let me know...I'm thick skinned...and I live in Boston Roger WA1KAT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:16:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA13803 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:16:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:15:40 -0700 From: "Kurt A.F. Kiesow III" Organization: NTG X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Even More Mir Reports References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C5299.BBEFD0F7@ntgi.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On the 15:58 (PDT) pass I copied the following in San Jose Ca.: KF6QNC>APRS:!3718.75N/12152.50WG KE6WDR>APRS:!3726.35N/12219.36W- KD6PLI>APRS:!9000.00N/18000.00W KC7LSP>APRS:!9000.00N/18000.00W R0MIR>APRS:!9000.00N/18000.00W KC7QAG>APRS:!4403.75N/12312.50WG K7GPS-7>APRS:!4632.00N/12323.00W[ K7GPS-9>APRS:!9000.00N/18000.00W WA6YLB-6>APRS:!3616.90N/11918.35Wy -- Kurt A.F. Kiesow III KF6QNC President - The Network Technology Group, Inc. Voice (408) 494-0310 Fax (408) 494-0303 http://www.ntgi.com Success: To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others Unknown "Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance" Anonymous --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:17:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA13831 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:17:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Chris Verbil To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "'htaprs@lists.tapr.org'" Subject: [htaprs] Mir pass on Monday @ 1945Z Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:15:16 -0700 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <8B0BE50D6F9AD01185A300A0C92BF45504E546AC@US01XCH01.Trimble.COM> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Doubt this is a record, but it sure was interesting...copied Jon, KE9NA-1, in Illinois while I am here in California. 1842 miles. Was just lucky to hit Mir while it was in a descending node here, and evidently at the same time Jon was using it while it was still ascending. cv N5CV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:20:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA13919 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:20:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:21:29 -0500 From: spoiler1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 1802 CDT Mir Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C53F9.FA9D8029@earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I caught the following stations during this evenings pass. KC7LSP KB8RWI KB0WZI N1QAG KC5JOE-7 KE9NA-1 W4GU WA9BNZ 73 Gary KC5UWA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:29:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA14033 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:29:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR Report Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:29:03 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >How can you tell? A dead full quieting packet that is not APRS will not >be decoded at all. Maybe all the packets you are hearing are BBS traffic, >DM frames, or ACKS... > >My THD7 can hear down to 3 LCD segments and wuite noisy signals... >(but only the APRS packets of course)... OK. Perhaps. I just know from my local terrestrial APRS work where their isn't any BBS traffic that my TH-D7A is not good at decoding packet. The interesting thing about the MIR stuff is that I only have about 1 to 2 minutes in the pass when I can decode packets. At least that's the way it seems. Perhaps there wasn't a good pass anywhere near Chicago today, but if we are going to have an APRS bird up there it needs to have a better orbit where the passes are a little bit longer. Otherwise, I am afraid that its usage will be somewhat limited. On the 18:04 pass today I did not have enough time to respond to a message I got from KC4JOE-7 before I lost the signal. That is too short. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:30:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA14057 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:30:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Darrell Sutton" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Fw: mir Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:30:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <007d01beb13d$b1de2640$643a0218@cx192844-a.nwptn1.va.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Join The Virginia APRS List serve APRSVA@onelist.com Darrell Sutton KF4HJW Newport News ARES AEC ORS 145.23 442.90 144.39 APRS THD7a -2 KF4HJW-10 Digi in Toano Va.,KF4HJW IGATE Newport News VA 145.73 Packet KF4HJW@ke4dv.#tide.va.usa.noam Packet Net Tues at 8:15 local on KR4MA system in District 7 VA ARES APRS Net Sundays 7:30pm in Tidewater VA. Visit WWW.APRS.NET -----Original Message----- From: Darrell Sutton To: aprssig Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 7:21 PM Subject: mir >1907 EDT PASS I saw n2nwz-7 w4gu n3uyi-7ke49na-1 >and r0mir > >Join The Virginia APRS List serve APRSVA@onelist.com >Darrell Sutton KF4HJW Newport News ARES AEC ORS 145.23 442.90 >144.39 APRS THD7a -2 KF4HJW-10 Digi in Toano Va.,KF4HJW IGATE Newport News >VA >145.73 Packet KF4HJW@ke4dv.#tide.va.usa.noam >Packet Net Tues at 8:15 local on KR4MA system in District 7 VA ARES >APRS Net Sundays 7:30pm in Tidewater VA. Visit WWW.APRS.NET > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:35:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA14245 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:35:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A and Open squelch In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 07 Jun 1999 15:34:52 MDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 19:34:52 -0400 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906072334.TAA24825@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I was wondering (uh oh) if the D7 is capable of open squelch. I have tested > and found when the radio is on APRS mode that it will not transmit when the > squelch is opened but I have not tested to see if it will do open squelch in > packet mode using APRS (i.e. winaprs, dosaprs...). > > Anyone try this yet?? > > Thanks and 73 > Clayton Watson I haven't had a chance to fully check it out yet, but it looks as though the D7 uses a purely noise activated DCD, like the Mic-E. This makes sense if you use the radio in Mic-E mode where it transmits on a Mic-E enabled repeater and has to know not to transmit on top of a voice user, but it is annoying when you're using the radio on a purely packet channel. John N8Ur jra@febo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 18:58:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA14658 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:58:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:57:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: sarex@amsat.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [sarex] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space In-Reply-To: <375C2BDB.6638@mail.telepac.pt> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk European pass with 33 stations trying to log on (280 DM frames (80%)) > > BBS: 330 packets to transfer 27 useful lines of text = 8% effeciency > > CNCT: 17 packets to transfer 1 useful line of text = 6% effeciency > > UI: 2 packets to transfer 2 useful lines of text = 100% effeciency Today I decided to see the statistics for a USA pass. Here are two of them as received on my omni antenna (thus fewer total packets compared to the file received by a tracking antenna in Europe above). USA PASS1 with 15 users. 4 trying to use BBS (15 DM frames 15%) The others were using UI frames. BBS: 54 pkts to transfer 10 useful lines of text = 18% CNCT: None seen UI: 31 packets conveyed 26 useful text lines = 84% USA PASS2 with 16 users. 4 trying to use BBS (23 DM frames (15%) others were using UI frames. BBS: 98 pkts to convey 18 useful lines of text = 18% CNCT: 29 pkts to convey 1 text line = 3% UI: 28 pkts to convey 26 useful lines or text = 93% Yes, the USA passes had half the number of users but only 1/4th of them were trying to use the BBS. THe other 3/4ths were having a good time communicating with UI frames with everyone being successful! All this while the connected BBS users were ALSO successful! Notice how much more successful the BBS users were, since the BBS was not busy responding to an infinite supply of CONNECT-REQUESTS and sending BUSY Frames. This analysis does not attempt to draw any conclusions about the different operating methods in the USA versus Europe other than the fact that everyone agrees that the majority of the congestion is due to CONNECT-REQUESTS/BUSY-DISCONNECT packets which convey no useful info. By the way, the 15/16 users and 4/4 BBS users per pass were all different calls except for 3 of the UI stations (I was one of them). THus, in two passes there were 4 successful loggons out of 8 stations trying and 21 other stations communicated via UI's total. Or somethig like that. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 19:56:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA15716 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:56:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Darrell Sutton" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] mir 2041edt pass Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:57:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00d201beb149$e21357c0$643a0218@cx192844-a.nwptn1.va.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I here a little outside but no luck myself however My home did hear left with mic unplugged the following stations n4zq n5zln ka0ott-7 kc5trb kc7zru-2 k4twe-1 wa4ssp-7 n4wyk-7 kz5rw-7 kg4crk-7 wb4apr-7 ks4xn-14 also messages/bullentins from wa9bnz kb0wzi n4zqwb4apr-7 Join The Virginia APRS List serve APRSVA@onelist.com Darrell Sutton KF4HJW Newport News ARES AEC ORS 145.23 442.90 144.39 APRS THD7a -2 KF4HJW-10 Digi in Toano Va.,KF4HJW IGATE Newport News VA 145.73 Packet KF4HJW@ke4dv.#tide.va.usa.noam Packet Net Tues at 8:15 local on KR4MA system in District 7 VA ARES APRS Net Sundays 7:30pm in Tidewater VA. Visit WWW.APRS.NET --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 19:57:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA15825 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:57:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2041 EDT Pass Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:53:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good pass! In reverse order: WB4APR-7 K4TWE-1 N4WYK-7 N4ZQ (Keith is close enough i can hear him direct but I did copy his digipeated tx too) KD5HAD KS4XN-144 KZ4RW-7 KC7ZRU-2 (@ 1589 MILES NW OF ME!) BEST DX so far. I hit it with the 6 volt battery @ 2w then dropped it to 1w and hit it again! Tried 50mw no luck. 73 Paul KR4YL (-7) EL87ov Largo, FL Paul E. Knupke, Jr. pk@ij.net Largo, FL ICQ#605259 Amateur Radio: KR4YL /-------------------------------------------> | Support WCF Section - www.qsl.net/wcfla | Go FCG! * KR4YL/R 442.15+ (103.5) CLW, FL \-------------------------------------------> --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 20:00:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA15899 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:00:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 19:59:31 -0500 From: spoiler1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Mir Pass 1938CDT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C6AF3.753B7396@earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all Heard the following stations during this pass K9MTN-7 KB0WZI NY4I-7 R0MIR-7 N5MML R0MIR KC7ZRU N5ZNL KD5XB KG0ND WA9BNZ KA0TTY-7 KA0TTY N4ZQ Heard these from Central Oklahoma 73 Gary KC5UWA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 20:06:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA16108 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:06:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR orbit 75996 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:05:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00f901beb14a$fc30b7a0$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is 2 for 2 on trying to use WinAPRS to record a MIR pass. Lots of really good data again and again everything was lost as WinAPRS caused an invalid page fault. Program runs solid at all times except when trying to record MIR. At least, thats been 100% of the cases. >From the D7 outside, I recorded for orbit 75996 from EM12 near Dallas, TX KC7ZRU-2 745 miles NW KC5UWA 196 miles N KA0TTY KB0WZI 653 miles NW N4ZQ Does it really matter if MIR is not Y2K compl WA9BNZ HI. from Bill Ran the D7 on mid power and the stock antenna. Really hard to get a response, but eventually got my packet back. I think EL would have been impossible. Harry, KA0TTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 20:35:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA16774 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:35:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:34:18 -0400 From: Rick Tilton Subject: [htaprs] Another Great Pass from MIR! To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Got two packet thru myself this time. Hope it showed up in someone's list! Those heard this pass were: KR4YL-7 WB4APR-7 (Also got BLN) K4TWE-1 N4ZQ (Also got BLN) KZ5RW-7 KD4HAD KS4XN-14 KC7ZRU-2 (Farthest station.. 1367mi. My record is 1600+ mi from a 7 station but forgot who and exact Number!) KC4UWA KA0TTY KA0TTY-7 WA9BNZ 9 (BLN ONLY) KB0WZI (BLN ONLY) Appeared to be a Great pass overall! Saw a lot of new stations. Still having fun! Rick Tilton ARS - N4WYK N4WYK@Infoave.net Tiltonr@Nationwide.com (Text only at work) Foothills of North Carolina APRS Website: HTTP://Web.Infoave.Net/~N4WYK --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 20:44:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA16994 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:44:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: htaprs@tapr.org, amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] My MIR list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Today, my HT got to the bottom of the list and started overwriting stations, so it is time for me to post my results as recorded in my HT with only a rubber duck (14 inch one) listening on MIR 145.985 for about 4 days. List is oldest to newest. Last pass was 2041 EDT Monday 7 June 99. I will record for one more day... STATION ICON POSIT RANGE COMMENT -------- -------- ------ ------ ---- ----------------- N1NFC lost EM90?? 644mi lost WD9GVU-2 lost lost lost lost W4DJV House FM18ds 60mi west lost WD8LAQ-9 car FM18ow 15mi west listening 146.835 WB4NLD Kenwood EM61?? 804mi SW lost VE3FTA-7 Jeep lost lost lost KC8JDS-3 Tangle EN80QA 326mi West THD7A NP3C-7 Runner FM18SX 14mi SE HI! NP3C@juno.com K9GD-15 Kenwood EN52VA 640mi W QRP 5wts Chicago VA3SD-7 Truck FN04GN 402mi N Chuck mobile in Ont. KO4UU-7 Kenwood FM09PP 117mi west Cumb MD K9GD-7 CAR EN52VA 640mi W Mobile via MIR N6QAB-7 Runner FM18TI 56mi S Kevin at Pax Riv MD KC5DHE House EM13ob 1202mi west Tom in Plano, TX N8UR-7 Runner EM79WP 405mi west jra@febo.com AJ4Y-7 Runner WL97bw 829mi s Paul's D7 WB4APR House FM19qd 0mi e Bob's QTH KB8RWA none none KB8RWA/R RWA/D KA2BQE-7 Kenwood FN34nm 418mi NE ka2bqe@amsat.org W4GV Dish EM7oef 802mi SE W4GV EM70ef BayCom KU4GY-7 Runner EL95TP 955mi S EL95 G3ZFJ-7 Runner FN30kr 216mi NE W3GZF@UNIX.ASB.COM WB4APR-9 Van FM18qx 13mi S Just commuting WB0WNX-5 Kenwood EN12TM 1063mi W none KS4XQ Dish EM84QS 448mi SW Wes in Easley, SC W1GTT-3 Runner FN31VJ 278mi NE Bill VE3XF-2 Runner EN94wk 406mi NW ve3xf@rac.ca KE9NA-1 Jeep EN51vt 640mi west JON IN HIS JEEP! W8XF-7 Pickup EM98ei 276mi west none N1QPR-7 Sailboat FN41IL 321mi NW N1QPR@AMSAT.ORG FN42 W3ADO-7 Tent FM18sx 13mi SE Hi! fm BOB K4EVH-7 Car FM18ix 38mi west THD7A KD4HTW House FM04ae 391mi SE APRS KD4HTW MAILBOX VE3KBL-7 Runner EO91qg 860mi N D7 WB8TDG-9 Runner EM79xs 400mi west RexBEAVERCREEK443675 N2NWZ-7 Runner FN30bx 193mi NW Anthony Yonkers NY N3UYI-7 Runner FM19qq 38mi N FM19qq THD7 N1QAG House FN34tx 457mi NE N.Troy VT. KC7ZRU-2 Dish DN71eh 1540mi west kc7zru@arrl.net -WYA KS4XN-14 Jeep EL89tq 731mi SW none KD5HAD Jeep EN63bb 648mi NW James@JMartin.net N4ZQ Cloud EL88oa 845mi SW Keith from delightfu W4TWE-1 Kenwood EM84QS 448mi SW Tommy's D7 N4WYK-7 Runner EM95HR 352mi SW N4WYK@INFOAVE.NET KR4YL-7 Runner EL87ov 854mi SW D7A PAUL pk@ij.net WA4SSP-7 Boat EM95ml 349mi SW jsnoddy@conninc.com Notice the last pass was to the South West. This is 46 stations, all with the Kenwood except for about 5 or so. Of course, the THD7 does not capture any non-APRS packets, so many more UI frame communicators may have been on also. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 20:47:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA17075 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: jwhughes@mail.lig.bellsouth.net Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:38:58 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: John Subject: [htaprs] Finally! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990607213858.007d4780@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk About time, got my first "my packet" from here in Gainesville, Fal during a strong 8:40 pass. Glad i had my base aprs station set to 145.985 and the racket reminded me to get outside and give it a try. Also heard: N4ZQ (Y2K MIR COMPLIANT ?) KR4YL-7 KZ5RW-7 (HI ALL!) KD5HAD Felt good to know it was possible from here by me...lol. 73 de john, ks4xn --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 21:01:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA17537 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:01:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:01:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, sarex@AMSAT.Org, aprsnews@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] MIR passes USA for Tuesday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Last day of informal HT COMM test via MIR. Running 5 watts max to rubber duck antennas. Here are passes for USA: PDT MDT CDT EDT ---- ---- ---- ---- ... ... 1228 1128 1003 1103 1205 1308 1135 1237 1340 1443 1312 1415 1518 1621 1448 1550 1653 1756 1624 1726 1829 1932 1800 1902 2005 2108 1935 2037 2139 .. Enjoy. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 21:12:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA18019 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:12:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Mac McMillian" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] still another MIR rpt Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:09:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004201beb153$e5a2b480$9d5020d0@compaq> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Had a demo for a group of 4,5,6 graders at a county Science camp tonite... took D7 and Arrow Beam and PocketAPRS along. Charleston,WV Pass at 2305Z: KD5HAD 493.0 MILES KE9NA-1 101.7 KF4HJW-2 304.1 KO4UU-7 84.4 N1QAG 887.6 N2NWZ-7 384.1 N3UYI-7 190.1 VA3HRA NO POSIT VA3SD-7 299.7 W4GV 408.1 WA9BNZ 422.9 W8XF-7 VIA R0MIR The kids ate it up...as did I. Ham radio rules!!!!! 73, Mac W8XF-7 SEC WV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 21:14:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA18067 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:14:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:14:29 Subject: [htaprs] Heard with D7 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Paul Lantz" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Heard these stations with D7 from Moosonee, Ontario, got a few of my own packets digipeated once in a while too: N2NWZ-7 dx no data (??) KD4HTW FM04AE 1181mi N1QAG N. Troy VT 577mi K4EVH-7 FM18IX 863mi WB4APR-7 FM19QD 860mi KE4IAM G3ZFJ-7 FN30KR 813mi VE3XF-2 FN04DK 474mi KS4XQ Easley SC EM84QS 1144mi N7SFI KE6TIV Hi DN40ES 1652mi W1GTT-3 Bill FN31VJ 792mi WB0WNX-5EN12TM 958mi KB8RWI KB5EDB San Angelo T DM91TK 1703mi Thanks to everyone who is taking part. This is the first time I have been to use APRS on the air from home. 73 Paul VE3KBL in EO91 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 21:36:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA18811 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:36:57 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Michael P. Olbrisch" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: , Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 02:31:32 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001f01beb157$136e0100$2cbc1c18@elp.rr.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org]On > Behalf Of Bob Bruninga > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 11:58 PM > To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org > Cc: sarex@AMSAT.Org; htaprs@tapr.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] BBS's versus DIGIPEATERS in space > > > Yes, the USA passes had half the number of users but only > 1/4th of them > were trying to use the BBS. THe other 3/4ths were having a good time > communicating with UI frames with everyone being successful! All this > while the connected BBS users were ALSO successful! > It is nice to know that at this particular time in history we are doing something right! The UI contacts I have had have been fun, and I didn't need to wait for the system to disconect before calling somebody else. It really works. Vy73, Mike. KD9KC MARS: AAV6EV kd9kc@elp.rr.com - kd9kc@amsat.org Home page: http://www.qsl.net/kd9kc/ The farthest WEST ham in West Texas. Its so dry in El Paso that I saw two trees fighting over a dog !!! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 21:37:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA18833 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:37:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:37:47 -0500 From: spoiler1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2113 CDT Mir Pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C81FB.C11D267B@earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all I received packets from the following stations during this pass. I hope some of them received from me as well :-) KB0WZI KC7ZRU-2 R0MIR R0MIR-1 K9MTN-7 WA6LIE- KE6TIV KB8RWI WA6YET N6GPS-7 KA0TTY KC5JOE-7 all received from central Oklahoma 73 Gary KC5UWA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 7 22:03:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA20015 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:03:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: My MIR list Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:34:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <017f01beb157$5fab8560$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Wouldn't KC5DHE, 1202 miles and KC7ZRU-2 1540 miles be outside the footprint for MIR? How did you receive them? hb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Bruninga To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group <> Cc: ; ; Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 8:43 PM Subject: [htaprs] My MIR list > Today, my HT got to the bottom of the list and started overwriting > stations, so it is time for me to post my results as recorded in my HT > with only a rubber duck (14 inch one) listening on MIR 145.985 for > about 4 days. List is oldest to newest. Last pass was 2041 EDT > Monday 7 June 99. I will record for one more day... > > STATION ICON POSIT RANGE COMMENT > -------- -------- ------ ------ ---- ----------------- > N1NFC lost EM90?? 644mi lost > WD9GVU-2 lost lost lost lost > W4DJV House FM18ds 60mi west lost > WD8LAQ-9 car FM18ow 15mi west listening 146.835 > WB4NLD Kenwood EM61?? 804mi SW lost > VE3FTA-7 Jeep lost lost lost > KC8JDS-3 Tangle EN80QA 326mi West THD7A > NP3C-7 Runner FM18SX 14mi SE HI! NP3C@juno.com > K9GD-15 Kenwood EN52VA 640mi W QRP 5wts Chicago > VA3SD-7 Truck FN04GN 402mi N Chuck mobile in Ont. > KO4UU-7 Kenwood FM09PP 117mi west Cumb MD > K9GD-7 CAR EN52VA 640mi W Mobile via MIR > N6QAB-7 Runner FM18TI 56mi S Kevin at Pax Riv MD > KC5DHE House EM13ob 1202mi west Tom in Plano, TX > N8UR-7 Runner EM79WP 405mi west jra@febo.com > AJ4Y-7 Runner WL97bw 829mi s Paul's D7 > WB4APR House FM19qd 0mi e Bob's QTH > KB8RWA none none KB8RWA/R RWA/D > KA2BQE-7 Kenwood FN34nm 418mi NE ka2bqe@amsat.org > W4GV Dish EM7oef 802mi SE W4GV EM70ef BayCom > KU4GY-7 Runner EL95TP 955mi S EL95 > G3ZFJ-7 Runner FN30kr 216mi NE W3GZF@UNIX.ASB.COM > WB4APR-9 Van FM18qx 13mi S Just commuting > WB0WNX-5 Kenwood EN12TM 1063mi W none > KS4XQ Dish EM84QS 448mi SW Wes in Easley, SC > W1GTT-3 Runner FN31VJ 278mi NE Bill > VE3XF-2 Runner EN94wk 406mi NW ve3xf@rac.ca > KE9NA-1 Jeep EN51vt 640mi west JON IN HIS JEEP! > W8XF-7 Pickup EM98ei 276mi west none > N1QPR-7 Sailboat FN41IL 321mi NW N1QPR@AMSAT.ORG FN42 > W3ADO-7 Tent FM18sx 13mi SE Hi! fm BOB > K4EVH-7 Car FM18ix 38mi west THD7A > KD4HTW House FM04ae 391mi SE APRS KD4HTW MAILBOX > VE3KBL-7 Runner EO91qg 860mi N D7 > WB8TDG-9 Runner EM79xs 400mi west RexBEAVERCREEK443675 > N2NWZ-7 Runner FN30bx 193mi NW Anthony Yonkers NY > N3UYI-7 Runner FM19qq 38mi N FM19qq THD7 > N1QAG House FN34tx 457mi NE N.Troy VT. > KC7ZRU-2 Dish DN71eh 1540mi west kc7zru@arrl.net -WYA > KS4XN-14 Jeep EL89tq 731mi SW none > KD5HAD Jeep EN63bb 648mi NW James@JMartin.net > N4ZQ Cloud EL88oa 845mi SW Keith from delightfu > W4TWE-1 Kenwood EM84QS 448mi SW Tommy's D7 > N4WYK-7 Runner EM95HR 352mi SW N4WYK@INFOAVE.NET > KR4YL-7 Runner EL87ov 854mi SW D7A PAUL pk@ij.net > WA4SSP-7 Boat EM95ml 349mi SW jsnoddy@conninc.com > > Notice the last pass was to the South West. This is 46 stations, all with > the Kenwood except for about 5 or so. Of course, the THD7 does not > capture any non-APRS packets, so many more UI frame communicators may have > been on also. > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: HBURFORD@AIRMAIL.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 00:19:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA01646 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 00:19:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Date & Time stamps for station list / built-in GPS in D7++ Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:18:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC604B6F278@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This exercise has reminded me how useful a date & time stamp would be as a feature of the station list on the D7! While the Kenwood engineers are busy squezzing that in on the next release, I hope they take a look at the new CASIO wrist-watch GPS. Maybe they can squeeze a GPS receiver into the successor to the D7 and make everyone's dreams come true - a totally self-contained tracker + dual band HT... ;-) ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] Sent: 7 June 1999 18:43 To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: htaprs@tapr.org; amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org; sarex@AMSAT.Org Subject: [htaprs] My MIR list Today, my HT got to the bottom of the list and started overwriting stations, so it is time for me to post my results as recorded in my HT with only a rubber duck (14 inch one) listening on MIR 145.985 for about 4 days. List is oldest to newest. Last pass was 2041 EDT Monday 7 June 99. I will record for one more day... STATION ICON POSIT RANGE COMMENT -------- -------- ------ ------ ---- ----------------- N1NFC lost EM90?? 644mi lost WD9GVU-2 lost lost lost lost W4DJV House FM18ds 60mi west lost WD8LAQ-9 car FM18ow 15mi west listening 146.835 WB4NLD Kenwood EM61?? 804mi SW lost VE3FTA-7 Jeep lost lost lost KC8JDS-3 Tangle EN80QA 326mi West THD7A NP3C-7 Runner FM18SX 14mi SE HI! NP3C@juno.com K9GD-15 Kenwood EN52VA 640mi W QRP 5wts Chicago VA3SD-7 Truck FN04GN 402mi N Chuck mobile in Ont. KO4UU-7 Kenwood FM09PP 117mi west Cumb MD K9GD-7 CAR EN52VA 640mi W Mobile via MIR N6QAB-7 Runner FM18TI 56mi S Kevin at Pax Riv MD KC5DHE House EM13ob 1202mi west Tom in Plano, TX N8UR-7 Runner EM79WP 405mi west jra@febo.com AJ4Y-7 Runner WL97bw 829mi s Paul's D7 WB4APR House FM19qd 0mi e Bob's QTH KB8RWA none none KB8RWA/R RWA/D KA2BQE-7 Kenwood FN34nm 418mi NE ka2bqe@amsat.org W4GV Dish EM7oef 802mi SE W4GV EM70ef BayCom KU4GY-7 Runner EL95TP 955mi S EL95 G3ZFJ-7 Runner FN30kr 216mi NE W3GZF@UNIX.ASB.COM WB4APR-9 Van FM18qx 13mi S Just commuting WB0WNX-5 Kenwood EN12TM 1063mi W none KS4XQ Dish EM84QS 448mi SW Wes in Easley, SC W1GTT-3 Runner FN31VJ 278mi NE Bill VE3XF-2 Runner EN94wk 406mi NW ve3xf@rac.ca KE9NA-1 Jeep EN51vt 640mi west JON IN HIS JEEP! W8XF-7 Pickup EM98ei 276mi west none N1QPR-7 Sailboat FN41IL 321mi NW N1QPR@AMSAT.ORG FN42 W3ADO-7 Tent FM18sx 13mi SE Hi! fm BOB K4EVH-7 Car FM18ix 38mi west THD7A KD4HTW House FM04ae 391mi SE APRS KD4HTW MAILBOX VE3KBL-7 Runner EO91qg 860mi N D7 WB8TDG-9 Runner EM79xs 400mi west RexBEAVERCREEK443675 N2NWZ-7 Runner FN30bx 193mi NW Anthony Yonkers NY N3UYI-7 Runner FM19qq 38mi N FM19qq THD7 N1QAG House FN34tx 457mi NE N.Troy VT. KC7ZRU-2 Dish DN71eh 1540mi west kc7zru@arrl.net -WYA KS4XN-14 Jeep EL89tq 731mi SW none KD5HAD Jeep EN63bb 648mi NW James@JMartin.net N4ZQ Cloud EL88oa 845mi SW Keith from delightfu W4TWE-1 Kenwood EM84QS 448mi SW Tommy's D7 N4WYK-7 Runner EM95HR 352mi SW N4WYK@INFOAVE.NET KR4YL-7 Runner EL87ov 854mi SW D7A PAUL pk@ij.net WA4SSP-7 Boat EM95ml 349mi SW jsnoddy@conninc.com Notice the last pass was to the South West. This is 46 stations, all with the Kenwood except for about 5 or so. Of course, the THD7 does not capture any non-APRS packets, so many more UI frame communicators may have been on also. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k6ekb@arrl.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 07:16:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA18609 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:15:35 -0400 From: Michael Leeper X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Hand held computer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375D0967.B07F77A9@mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello list. I have had quite a bit of fun with the HT-D7 and Mir but would like to try interfacing a hand held computer for APRS and TNC functions. My system consists of the HT-D7 and Garmin GPS II at this time. Weight is an important consideration so is practical use and expense. APRS 90% and TNC 10% I am satisfied with the APRS as covered my the HT-D7. KO4UU Michael in Cumberland MD. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 07:57:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA19607 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 07:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Dr Dave Larsen [ PhD ]" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "sarex@AMSAT.Org" , "htaprs@tapr.org" Subject: [htaprs] Digi on MIR Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 05:56:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BEB173.B1D60060@DOC> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To all of the hams that are useing MIR's digi over the past days - please keep having fun when you get a chance. Please make sure you have your TNC set to accept everything that comes across your "screen" as not to cause QRM to a sta that is already con. to the "PMS" From what I have been seeing the Knwd THD-7A even on low pwr is doing a VERY good job. HAVE FUN Dave N6CO MIR Sysop --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 08:42:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA20520 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hand held computer Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:41:56 -0400 From: Steve Dimse To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906081341.JAA05055@netrox.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/8/99 8:15 AM Michael Leeper (mleeper@mindspring.com) wrote: > I have had quite a bit of fun with the HT-D7 and Mir but would like to >try interfacing a hand held computer for APRS and TNC functions. My >system consists of the HT-D7 and Garmin GPS II at this time. Weight is >an important consideration so is practical use and expense. APRS 90% >and TNC 10% I am satisfied with the APRS as covered my the HT-D7. > Was there a question in there? I think maybe you meant to ask what handheld computer to get. Well, the only one that runs a version of APRS now is the Palm. Pocket APRS is a great little program. But there are now two WinCE versions on the horizon. The Sprouls are promising on real-soon-now. I also have a very early alpha version from Rob KZ5RW. It only displays the maps, but on my Jornada 420, the maps (it reads WinAPRS maps and PocketAPRS maps, with APRSdos maps coming soon) look awesome, and the redraw is just a hair slower than on my 300 MHz PowerPC Mac! So it depends on how soon you want it, and what you want. The Palm version is good, available now, Palm III's can be had real cheap, and they are small. The WinCE versions will allow more maps (because CE machines have more memory), can be in color, like my 420, but you have to wait, and it costs more...I paid something like $430 for the Jornada, and it will cost another $150 for the CFA serial card. This one is just a bit larger and heavier than the Palm III. That's the bad thing about choice, you have to make some hard decisions.... Steve K4HG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 09:02:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA20893 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:01:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:01:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: My MIR list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Harry Burford wrote: > Wouldn't KC5DHE, 1202 miles and KC7ZRU-2 1540 miles be outside the > footprint for MIR? How did you receive them? I just ran Instantrack and with Mir over Kansas, both Maryland and Los ANgeles can be in the footprint at the same time. 2400 Mi. (but only for a few seconds). Maybe you are thinking of range to the MIR which is about 1200 mi max or so... bob > hb > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Bruninga > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group <> > Cc: ; ; > Sent: Monday, June 07, 1999 8:43 PM > Subject: [htaprs] My MIR list > > > > Today, my HT got to the bottom of the list and started overwriting > > stations, so it is time for me to post my results as recorded in my HT > > with only a rubber duck (14 inch one) listening on MIR 145.985 for > > about 4 days. List is oldest to newest. Last pass was 2041 EDT > > Monday 7 June 99. I will record for one more day... > > > > STATION ICON POSIT RANGE COMMENT > > -------- -------- ------ ------ ---- ----------------- > > N1NFC lost EM90?? 644mi lost > > WD9GVU-2 lost lost lost lost > > W4DJV House FM18ds 60mi west lost > > WD8LAQ-9 car FM18ow 15mi west listening 146.835 > > WB4NLD Kenwood EM61?? 804mi SW lost > > VE3FTA-7 Jeep lost lost lost > > KC8JDS-3 Tangle EN80QA 326mi West THD7A > > NP3C-7 Runner FM18SX 14mi SE HI! NP3C@juno.com > > K9GD-15 Kenwood EN52VA 640mi W QRP 5wts Chicago > > VA3SD-7 Truck FN04GN 402mi N Chuck mobile in Ont. > > KO4UU-7 Kenwood FM09PP 117mi west Cumb MD > > K9GD-7 CAR EN52VA 640mi W Mobile via MIR > > N6QAB-7 Runner FM18TI 56mi S Kevin at Pax Riv MD > > KC5DHE House EM13ob 1202mi west Tom in Plano, TX > > N8UR-7 Runner EM79WP 405mi west jra@febo.com > > AJ4Y-7 Runner WL97bw 829mi s Paul's D7 > > WB4APR House FM19qd 0mi e Bob's QTH > > KB8RWA none none KB8RWA/R RWA/D > > KA2BQE-7 Kenwood FN34nm 418mi NE ka2bqe@amsat.org > > W4GV Dish EM7oef 802mi SE W4GV EM70ef BayCom > > KU4GY-7 Runner EL95TP 955mi S EL95 > > G3ZFJ-7 Runner FN30kr 216mi NE W3GZF@UNIX.ASB.COM > > WB4APR-9 Van FM18qx 13mi S Just commuting > > WB0WNX-5 Kenwood EN12TM 1063mi W none > > KS4XQ Dish EM84QS 448mi SW Wes in Easley, SC > > W1GTT-3 Runner FN31VJ 278mi NE Bill > > VE3XF-2 Runner EN94wk 406mi NW ve3xf@rac.ca > > KE9NA-1 Jeep EN51vt 640mi west JON IN HIS JEEP! > > W8XF-7 Pickup EM98ei 276mi west none > > N1QPR-7 Sailboat FN41IL 321mi NW N1QPR@AMSAT.ORG FN42 > > W3ADO-7 Tent FM18sx 13mi SE Hi! fm BOB > > K4EVH-7 Car FM18ix 38mi west THD7A > > KD4HTW House FM04ae 391mi SE APRS KD4HTW MAILBOX > > VE3KBL-7 Runner EO91qg 860mi N D7 > > WB8TDG-9 Runner EM79xs 400mi west RexBEAVERCREEK443675 > > N2NWZ-7 Runner FN30bx 193mi NW Anthony Yonkers NY > > N3UYI-7 Runner FM19qq 38mi N FM19qq THD7 > > N1QAG House FN34tx 457mi NE N.Troy VT. > > KC7ZRU-2 Dish DN71eh 1540mi west kc7zru@arrl.net -WYA > > KS4XN-14 Jeep EL89tq 731mi SW none > > KD5HAD Jeep EN63bb 648mi NW James@JMartin.net > > N4ZQ Cloud EL88oa 845mi SW Keith from delightfu > > W4TWE-1 Kenwood EM84QS 448mi SW Tommy's D7 > > N4WYK-7 Runner EM95HR 352mi SW N4WYK@INFOAVE.NET > > KR4YL-7 Runner EL87ov 854mi SW D7A PAUL pk@ij.net > > WA4SSP-7 Boat EM95ml 349mi SW jsnoddy@conninc.com > > > > Notice the last pass was to the South West. This is 46 stations, all with > > the Kenwood except for about 5 or so. Of course, the THD7 does not > > capture any non-APRS packets, so many more UI frame communicators may have > > been on also. > > > > de WB4APR, Bob > > > > > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: HBURFORD@AIRMAIL.NET > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 09:30:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA21688 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:30:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Tuesday MIR Passes Date: Tue, 8 Jun 99 09:35:32 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906081430.JAA21679@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Can someone repost the passes of MIR for today, Tuesday. I forgot to print them out from my home machine. Thanks es 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 10:08:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA22888 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:08:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:29:16 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] New D7a owner wants to play! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375C47BC.B4F8ABF6@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, I got my new toy today and am chomping at the bit while the battery charges (that's the biggest problem with a new radio, isn't it?!) I'd like to play with MIR but deleted the message telling us how to do so with the D7a. Could someone please send me that info privately? Tks/73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 10:17:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA23121 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:17:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Bicycle Icon Date: Tue, 8 Jun 99 10:22:23 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906081516.KAA23108@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To anyone and everyone who perhaps has pull at Kenwood: The bicycle ICON that is selected on the D7A does not correspond to the bicycle Icon in the APRS software. If you set your D7A up to transmit the bicycle Icon, stations receiving you will see you as a Motorcycle. Perhaps this is not new to anyone, but it was new to me! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 10:41:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA23607 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:41:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Brown, Russell R" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Palm Pilot control of the TH-D7A? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:40:45 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk A few weeks ago Darryl Smith investigated the use of commands for PC control of the TH-D7. Rather than a PC, has anybody tried, or does anyone have any thoughts on the use of a Palm Pilot for control of the TH-D7A? Does this seem possible and how? Thanks, Russ Brown, KB6LUD --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 11:15:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA24375 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:15:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Lotus-FromDomain: TMK@TMKINET From: "Bill McLarty" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:11:57 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] MIR tracking with WinAPRS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <8625678A.005969BA.00@mail.trustmark.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk How do I set up my WinAPRS to display only stations digipeated by MIR? I would like to go outside at noon Central time, bounce a packet off the MIR, and then come inside and see my call and icon (and the stations I have heard on the D7) on the map. I'm not getting much work done this week. What fun! Bill McLarty, KM5GE Jackson, Mississippi EM42 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 11:54:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA25214 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:54:09 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:53:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Bicycle Icon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > The bicycle ICON that is selected on the D7A does not correspond to the > bicycle Icon in the APRS software. If you set your D7A up to transmit > the bicycle Icon, stations receiving you will see you as a Motorcycle. > > Perhaps this is not new to anyone, but it was new to me! Mee to! I have sent it to sofware ENgineer at Kenwood. Too late to change, but I have asked them to document it. Also, You can still select the BIKE icon by selecting OTHER and entering b then table /. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 12:01:32 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA25468 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:01:22 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:00:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR FD/Technology Day (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by tapr.org id MAA25468 On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, J. Scott Ratchford asked about the end of the informal 5w QRP HT UI packet DIGI test via MIR: > Why does this have to be the last day? Let keep it going! Actually, (I am speaking with NO authority), MIR is always an interesting channel to monitor and a good source of demonstrations of what HAM radio is all about. I think this has been a good demo. I think anyone who has the opportunity to show off Ham Radio to the public, youth, or old LIDs would always be welcome to digi a couple of UI frames via MIR at any time. But as with any shared spectrum, we have to be careful with such an invitation so as not to encourage some individuals who may try to turn such an opportunity into their own personal contest and kill the golden goose. With UI frames, just listening and watching is fun too.. One such public opportunity is Field-Day (or TAPR Technology day!) But as always, in order for it to work, we can't overload the uplink. So, if you take your HT to FD (we hope you will), then please be considerate of everyone else. If you get your Packet digipeated once, then back off and let others play. The beauty of the HT is that everyone has an equal chance, no one can hog it. What follows is the TAPR Technology Day announcement. Notice that you get 25 points for receiving ONE packet from a satllite, and 25 points for successfully Transmitting ONE packet. Also, you get one point for EVERY APRS station heard. No need to do more.... de Wb4APR, Bob -------------------------------------------------------------------- TAPR's annual Technology Demo Day (SAME DAY AS ARRL FD) Full details are available at http://www.tapr.org/tdfd * No commercial power is allowed for stations submitting a score. * Any frequencies that are currently allowed for the mode in use. * Digipeaters, Networks, can be used for contacts (RF must be used) * Minimum exchange consists of: Call Sign, ARRL section, Operator Designation (SO, MO, NO) * Points: o 25 points for receiving the ARRL message in digital form o 2 points for every LIVE packet QSO (packet network, conference o 1 point for every APRS station "received" o 2 points for every APRS station exchanging messages o 25 points for receiving ATV signals from a range over 5 miles o 25 points for transmitting ATV to another station over 5 miles o 5 points for every received SSTV picture received o 5 points for every transmitted SSTV contact o 25 points for receiving any Satellite digital MESSAGE o 25 points for transmitting any Satellite digital Message. o 25 points for making a complete exchange using Spread Spectrum o 5 points for each Spread Spectrum contact thereafter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Suggested Operating instructions * HOOK UP YOUR SPEAKER. If you aren't listening to the packets, then you may not know what is going on the channel. TNC's do not detect collisions. DCD's do not either, so just because the little green light is OFF, does not mean the channel is not all QRM * Operate normally. USE SHORT packets and MINIMUM PATH. Use WIDEN-N where possible. Keep hops practical for your area. (any more than 3 probably impossible).. Work everyone you see on mail/traffic pages. * ACKS are not required! If you get a QSL message from the other station, don't wait for an ACK. Erase the outgoing message to reduce QRM! * Internet Gateways The key here is that IGates only pass through MESSAGEs to LOCAL stations in their area. This means you can QSO with anyone if you already know their callsign! You will probably NOT see their posits since only messages go via IGates (normally). This is why you should always include your GRIDSQ in all of your text messages. Here are some ways we have come up with to get around these quirks for: * a) Assume an SSID of -6 for stations and guess at some APRS calls... * Watch your traffic list. As soon as anyone QSO's anyone in your area, you will see them for a return QSO. * Send a CQ FD MESSAGE with your GRIDSQ and report to a DIGI in a known area with an IGate. This will go through all IGates. * Do a MAPS-OVERLAY-DIGIS for an area to see a good target call. (See C) * Do NOT send CQFD or TARGET messages until you have exhausted all other contacts, else we may totally BLOCK the RF channels around IGates. * Once you are working via IGATES, PLEASE minimize your path to ONLY the hops needed to hit your local IGate. * Home Stations If you are not going to operate, please set up your UN-ATTENDED home station for AUTOREPLY with something like 'QSL. [gridsq].(NO), ARRL section, etc. For APRSdos this simply means send ONE message to the callsign of REPLY and make sure this message is the first in your SEND list. ------------------- APRS® is registered to Bob Bruninga, WB4APR. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tucson Amateur Packet Radio 8987-309 E Tanque Verde Rd #337 * Tucson, Az * 85749-9399 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- e-mail: tapr@tapr.org web: ftp: ftp.tapr.org phone: 940-383-0000 fax: 940-565-2544 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Greg Jones, WD5IVD Austin, Texas wd5ivd@tapr.org http://www.tapr.org/~wd5ivd --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-1106H@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to aprsnews as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprsnews-1106H@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 12:28:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA26163 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:28:41 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 13:28:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Karl Salisbury To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR tracking with WinAPRS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bill, You could clear the station list. Then , once you change frequency, you should not have much else on the display. Karl KG4BNA On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Bill McLarty wrote: > How do I set up my WinAPRS to display only stations digipeated by MIR? I would > like to go outside at noon Central time, bounce a packet off the MIR, and then > come inside and see my call and icon (and the stations I have heard on the D7) > on the map. > > I'm not getting much work done this week. What fun! > > Bill McLarty, KM5GE > Jackson, Mississippi > EM42 > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 14:14:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA29471 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:14:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:14:29 Subject: [htaprs] Tuesday passes nothing heard To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Paul Lantz" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Monitored the 1308 and 1443 MIR passes Tuesday June 8 but heard nothing. Did other people hear anything? I got my pass times calculated for my QTH but using the times that were posted here. Paul VE3KBL EO91 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 14:16:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA29501 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:16:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Bicycle Icon Date: Tue, 8 Jun 99 14:20:52 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >> The bicycle ICON that is selected on the D7A does not correspond to the >> bicycle Icon in the APRS software. If you set your D7A up to transmit >> the bicycle Icon, stations receiving you will see you as a Motorcycle. >> >> Perhaps this is not new to anyone, but it was new to me! > >Mee to! I have sent it to sofware ENgineer at Kenwood. Too late to >change, but I have asked them to document it. Also, You can still select >the BIKE icon by selecting OTHER and entering b then table /. > >de WB4APR, Bob Too late for the current firmware release or too late to ever change it? I would think they'd be able to change it in future versions. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 14:26:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA29766 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:26:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 12:17:37 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Palm Pilot control of the TH-D7A? References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------AD81DF0721472CFCDFCC1DB4" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375D6C51.82E9E91A@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AD81DF0721472CFCDFCC1DB4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have not tried using the Palm to control the TH-D7. However, any device with a serial port and an input method can and will control the TH-D7. The Palm devices seem to meet this criteria, since people are using them for packet. Entering the commands into the terminal program will be cumbersome, but can be done. A better way would be to write a program for use with the Palm devices. I believe development software can be purchased from 3Com. Walter http://www.radiohound.com "Brown, Russell R" wrote: > > A few weeks ago Darryl Smith investigated the use of commands for PC control > of the TH-D7. Rather than a PC, has anybody tried, or does anyone have any > thoughts on the use of a Palm Pilot for control of the TH-D7A? Does this > seem possible and how? > > Thanks, > Russ Brown, KB6LUD --------------AD81DF0721472CFCDFCC1DB4 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wdunckel.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Walter Dunckel Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wdunckel.vcf" begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note:http://www.best.com/~wdunckel/electronics.html end:vcard --------------AD81DF0721472CFCDFCC1DB4-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 14:29:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA29950 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:29:19 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Tuesday passes nothing heard Date: Tue, 8 Jun 99 14:34:31 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >Monitored the 1308 and 1443 MIR passes Tuesday June 8 but heard nothing. >Did other people hear anything? >I got my pass times calculated for my QTH but using the times that were >posted here. I heard nothing either on either pass in my area. I think for the noon time one we had, I heard one long packet burst. It may have been MIR or someone else in the area. I didn't decode the packet. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 14:30:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA29986 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:30:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Palm Pilot control of the TH-D7A? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 99 14:35:33 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >A better way would be to write a program for use with the Palm devices. >I believe development software can be purchased from 3Com. This exsits. It's called PalmAPRS or something like that. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 15:31:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA01907 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:31:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: ron.reeves@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:28:27 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ron Reeves Subject: [htaprs] MIR NO Success Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990608203112.BMOY3641@ronr> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ok, After seeing so many successful people working MIR I figured I had to take the D7A to work and try it myself. Did I miss the obvious? Is the testing over? Did I do something wrong? Per Bob's list I tried PDT at 10:03,11:35, and 13:12 today. The frequency that I used was 145.985. I live in Vancouver WA. Per a MIR tracking website I expected the last pass to be the best chance. I did not even hear anything let alone work MIR. I have an after market 18" whip antenna and was even trying it with and without a "Tigertail" type add on. Bob, you are a pro at this. Whats the deal? Ron Reeves N7QXO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 15:35:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA02211 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:35:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:28:24 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Palm Pilot control of the TH-D7A? References: <199906081930.MAA23434@proxy1.ba.best.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------73ED8F25EDA9D2163366D4E3" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375D7CE8.DDF9F98A@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------73ED8F25EDA9D2163366D4E3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, PocketAPRS (should have been called PalmAPRS) does exist, however it does not include any of the control protocols (found by Darrly Smith) that are specific to the TH-D7. For instance, Kenwood uses these protocols for their programing software, and others have written software to control the TH-D7's frequency, settings, etc.. See: http://www.radiohound.com/d7zpinfo.htm Walter Jon Ogden wrote: > > >A better way would be to write a program for use with the Palm devices. > >I believe development software can be purchased from 3Com. > > This exsits. It's called PalmAPRS or something like that. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA --------------73ED8F25EDA9D2163366D4E3 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wdunckel.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Walter Dunckel Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wdunckel.vcf" begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note:http://www.best.com/~wdunckel/electronics.html end:vcard --------------73ED8F25EDA9D2163366D4E3-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 16:40:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA05208 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:40:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR testing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I konw there is a WEB site that shows where MIR is NOW. but is there any site that easily gives predictions for the next few days? We need links to such sites so that others can find when MIR is overhead. I dont hve time to keep posting predictions everyday liike I have been doing. Im sure such a site exists...? This would be for newbee THD7 owners to listen for MIR bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 16:50:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA05417 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:50:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Keith Schlottman, CPA" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Palm Pilot control of the TH-D7A? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:49:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001a01beb1f8$bbbbb7c0$110310ac@mmsi.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mike Musick's pocketAPRS program works quite well with the TH-D7. He has even pre-programmed the TNC initialization string in so you just select the TH-D7 as your TNC type. I've been using this since Dayton and I'm quite pleased with it. It tracks and maps well, has message abilities, etc. Anyone wanting a nice portable APRS set-up should seriously consider it. Mike's website has more info: http://webusers.anet-stl.com/~mcmusick/ However, if you're looking for packet terminal type software to send specific commands to the TNC, i.e. for regular (non-APRS) packet use, pocketAPRS does not yet have this capability. You can watch the TNC in the packet window though. ------------------------------------------- Keith D. Schlottman, CPA, KR7RK Modular Mining Systems, Inc. e-mail: corporate web site: ------------------------------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:12:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA06093 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:12:47 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:11:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR NO Success In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > After seeing so many successful people working MIR I figured I had to > take the D7A to work and try it myself. > > Did I miss the obvious? Is the testing over? Did I do something wrong? > Bob, you are a pro at this. Whats the deal? Welcome to the real world of MIR..... QRX! Just as I was typing that, I heard packets. Ran to roof and got a great pass. Time here is 1805 EDT. First pass I have heard all day. I tried giving a demo to a group of stuendts first pass today, and nothing. So that is one of the great "levelers" of MIR, you just never know what is going to happen. And I hope no one complains. Im just so tickled when they do turn on the packet for us... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:22:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA06400 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] MIRing in the Rain! Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:22:35 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk All Right! Pass on Orbit 76046 (1757 EDT) was a good one WN3C>MAC,R0MIR*:Copied 73 KA2BQE-7>T4RY2Q,R0MIR*:`dU^l [/>MMUHS Jericho VT WB4APR-7>3Y0Y0P,R0MIR*:`h@!l !b/> WB4APR-7>APK001,R0MIR*::BLN5 :Previous passes were dead!{R N2NWZ-7>TPUX2Q,R0MIR*:`eN?l [/>ANTHONY Yonkers NY N4WYK-7>S5TS8X,R0MIR*:`m0al [/>N4WYK@INFOAVE.NET W4SAT>EM72,R0MIR*:Hello From Tallassee,Al(w4sat@mindspring.com) R0MIR>BEACON:MIR SPACE STATION KA2BQE-7>APRS,R0MIR*::BLN9 :R7 fm HS prkng lot{9 KF4HJW-2>S7PV0P,R0MIR*:`h<l [/>Darrell ON D7A N1QPR-7>4Q2X6P,R0MIR*,RELAY,GATE,GATE,WIDE3-3:`c/el Y/>N1QPR@AMSAT.ORG N3UYI-7>0P0PP0,R0MIR*:'vXl [/>FM19PS TH^D7-STEVE I moved my APRS digi to 145.985 for the pass and setup a terminal program, to capture the output. I edited out duplicates from the UI-guys and he packets from K5PK who was connected to the BBS. Standing out in the parking lot of Mount Mansfield Union HS in a steady drenching rain holding D7 and small single elemnt beam ... so to the guy who wanted to know about the rain-ability of the D7 ... yes it works. I have the soaked polo shirt to prove it! Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "There is only one war, and it's not the rich against the poor, the blacks against the white, the Federation against the Borg, or the Democrats against the Republicans. It's those who are complete idiots against those of us who ain't." -- from on the net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:30:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA06601 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:30:47 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR NO Success Date: Tue, 8 Jun 99 15:30:49 -0700 From: David Dobbins To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <22361100096507@Localaccess.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Ron. You had everything right and I listened the same times you did today, Tuesday, with the same antenna, and I heard nothing as well. Dave. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:37:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA06874 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:37:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 17:54:54 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hand held computer References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375D912E.B5E2E79C@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Michael L. wrote: >I've had fun with the D7 and Mir but would like to interface a handheld >omputer for APRS and TNC functions. My system consists of the D7 and >GPS II. Weight is an important consideration. So is practical use and >expense. How small do you want to go? Something like a Toshiba Libretto is about as small as you can get nowadays and run "The Big Three" (APRSDos, WinMacAPRS and APRSPlus), as there is not yet a port to WinCE. But in under a week I'll have my r-e-a-l-l-y portable APRS station online. I am using a Palm IIIx device with pocketAPRS. Between the D7a, GPS-III & Palm IIIx, we're talking maybe a few pounds, if that much. And I think the LCD screen on the Palm looks one heckuvalot better in the bright sun than any laptop or palmtop I've seen with a color screen. The Palm III is going for about $250 or so, the IIIx (twice as much memory and a better display) is about $360'ish. PocketAPRS is still in beta, but IMHO seems ideal where weight, portability and power require- ments are a concern. 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:39:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA06955 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:39:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "James Davidson" From: "James Davidson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] mir 1757 EDT Pass Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:37:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003e01beb1ff$805f5220$910c51cf@davidson> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Following staiton where heard via Romir ve3xf-2 n2nwz-7 ka2bqe-7 wb4apr-7 n4wyk-7 n1qpr-7 James Davidson ve3tpz Stratford Ontario Canada Grid Zone EN93MI EMAIL ve3tpz@rac.ca --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:48:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA07120 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:48:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Brown, Russell R" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hand held computer Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:47:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Arte said: > How small do you want to go? Something like a Toshiba Libretto is > about as small as you can get nowadays and run "The Big Three" (APRSDos, > WinMacAPRS and APRSPlus), as there is not yet a port to WinCE. That made me think about yet another option... Would it be possible to repartition the hard drive on a WinCE machine and install the new LinuxAPRS? Russ Brown, KB6LUD --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:57:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA07371 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:57:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Clayton Watson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7 and DOS APRS and a GPS Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 16:58:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000301beb202$820fb9e0$ddda5da6@kb0wzi> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk First time trying to use Dos aprs and was trying to figure out how to take advantage of the GPS plugged into the D7 and notice my movements in DOS Aprs. All cables are ok it is just a configuration problem that i'm not finding. Is it possible to plug the GPS into the D7 and the D7 into the serial port on the laptop??? If so, how do you configure it. Thanks for the responses. 73 de KB0WZI Clayton --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 17:59:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA07461 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:59:30 -0500 (CDT) X-OpenPGP-Info: Id=0xA52ED8B5; Fingerprint="2448 79B1 C97F 97DD 65A8 04AB D291 DE4D A52E D8B5"; Owner="Alexander Guy "; To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Alexander S. Guy" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Hand held computer In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:47:36 PDT." X-URL: http://www.software.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 15:56:00 -0700 Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Precedence: bulk -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>> "Brown," == Brown, Russell R writes: Brown,> Arte said: >> How small do you want to go? Something like a Toshiba Libretto >> is about as small as you can get nowadays and run "The Big >> Three" (APRSDos, WinMacAPRS and APRSPlus), as there is not yet >> a port to WinCE. Brown,> That made me think about yet another option... Would it Brown,> be possible to repartition the hard drive on a WinCE Brown,> machine and install the new LinuxAPRS? At present, the WinCE port of Linux (both for the MIPS derivative WinCE devices, and the Hitachi based ones) is in it's infancy, and probably wouldn't be up to this task, yet. Check out http://www.linuxce.org Something you might want to check into is the Psion Series 5. It supports Linux, and has a reasonable ammount of RAM. I don't have a URL handy, but one shouldn't be too hard to find. Alexander -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v0.9.6 (Linux) Comment: (nil) iD8DBQE3XZ990pHeTaUu2LURAoJ1AJ9XrQYmKHYoBFU5ENaWQpAbUt+44wCfe8MV I5RjLDehYFbTo3jokykNSPs= =OTZn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 18:41:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA08777 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:41:53 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:41:39 Subject: [htaprs] signals heard 1930 pass today To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Paul Lantz" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk 1930 pass EDT heard some signals but D7 unable to decode anything. Did not get "your packet" message. Paul VE3KBL EO91 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 18:48:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA08903 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:48:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "James Davidson" From: "James Davidson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 1930 edt pass Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:47:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01BEB1E7.BD5F8C70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <005b01beb209$45629150$910c51cf@davidson> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BEB1E7.BD5F8C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Following staiton where heard via Romir Heard w4sat n4zq James Davidson ve3tpz Stratford Ontario Canada Grid Zone EN93MI EMAIL ve3tpz@rac.ca ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BEB1E7.BD5F8C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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<= /BODY> ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BEB1E7.BD5F8C70-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 19:00:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA09198 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:00:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Mir Passes Today Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:59:53 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906082359.SAA09189@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, I didn't hear MIR while I was out doing my salesman duties and in the car. However, this afternoon when I was back in the office between 3 and 5 PM Central time, I left the radio on and tuned to 145.985. I did pick up some stations this time. There were passes at 3:18 and 4:53 so I am not sure which pass or possibly both where I heard this: N4WYK-7 N2NWZ-7 WB4APR-7 KA2BQE-7 VE3XF-2 N8OIF Congrats to those who made it! 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 19:01:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA09225 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:01:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: ron.reeves@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 16:57:23 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ron Reeves Subject: [htaprs] MIR IS ALIVE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990609000019.FVKW22215@ronr> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk It works, On the 16:24 PST pass I heard: KC7LSP NY4I-7 WA6YLB-6 And a few others that did not get listed on the position list. I did not catch if people were thinking about QSLing, but I would like to if other do too. I also thought KC7LSP say hi, but I could not find the message and was in a panic mode trying to get things working. I had a couple of my employees asking a zillion questions and I was trying to teach and learn at the same time. See you next pass. Ron Reeves N7QXO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 19:21:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA09742 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:21:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Upcoming Travels Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:21:20 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906090021.TAA09719@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I am going to be doing some traveling beginning tomorrow. I will be flying to West Palm Beach, Florida for a couple of days. I arrive in late tomorrow night via a couple hour stop over in Atlanta. Saturday I return to Chicago from Florida and then on Sunday I fly out to Anaheim for a couple of days. I'll be bring the GPS and TH-D7A along so look for me in Atlanta, Stuart, Florida area and Annaheim, California over the next week. All these areas are on 144.39 now, right? 73 and see y'all around! Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 20:17:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA11187 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:17:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] 20:05 CDT Pass Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:16:57 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906090116.UAA11178@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, I just went outside for the 20:05 MIR pass. Nothing. The only other station I heard was WB9JEJ. His was a ?? packet. I recognize the call, but this guy is not on APRS in Chicago so he must have been attempting to use the BBS and I heard him direct. Oh well...one more shot at 9:35 PM! 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 20:31:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA11421 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:31:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 21:28:37 -0700 From: John MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: bruninga@nadn.navy.mil Subject: [htaprs] Mir 0114 pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375DED75.23BE@worldnet.att.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, finally got some DX tonight on the 0114Z pass, saw packets from HR5HAC (Honduras) and HP2VX(Panama) -- John Mc Hugh, KU4GY Coordinator for Amateur Radio National Hurricane Center, W4EHW Miami, Florida Home Page: http://www.fiu.edu/orgs/w4ehw/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 21:12:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA12807 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:12:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] On the Road w/D7 Wednesday look for me Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:11:21 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The "Riley Rover" will be on the road tomorrow all over VT and nearby NH. Will try to make the following MIR D7 passes. 1205 EDT from Montpelier VT area (a little iffy, depends on how slow the lines at DMV are!) 1337 EDT from White River Jct, VT (Intersection I-89 and I-91) 1513 EDT also from WRJ 1654 EDT from Hanover, NH (Dartmouth College) Oh yes, BobB ... am taking my new Garmin GPS II+ and will get your milepoints for most of I-89 and some points on I-91 Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn." -Alvin Toffler --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 21:45:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA13618 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:45:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 21:46:32 -0500 From: spoiler1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] 2005 CDT Mir pass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375DD588.E01098C5@earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all Besides my MY PACKET I heard the following calls on my dh7 tonight. K9MTN-7 KC5JOE-7 KK5YY-7 KU4LY-7 N6GPS-7 KC7LSP 73 Gary KC5UWA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 21:47:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA13637 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "Michael P. Olbrisch" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: , Subject: [htaprs] RE: [amsat-bb] Digi on MIR Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:40:52 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <01BEB173.B1D60060@DOC> Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004f01beb222$1e3e8ac0$2cbc1c18@elp.rr.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thank you Dave... Still looking for your QSL. How about is I send you one, with SASE, and you just sigh it and send it back?!?!? Y-all have a great evening, Vy73, Mike. KD9KC MARS: AAV6EV kd9kc@elp.rr.com - kd9kc@amsat.org Home page: http://www.qsl.net/kd9kc/ The farthest WEST ham in West Texas. Guns cause violence just as spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org [mailto:owner-AMSAT-BB@AMSAT.Org]On > Behalf Of Dr Dave Larsen [ PhD ] > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:57 PM > To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org; 'Bob Bruninga' > Cc: sarex@AMSAT.Org; htaprs@tapr.org > Subject: [amsat-bb] Digi on MIR > > > > > To all of the hams that are useing MIR's digi over the past > days - please > keep having fun when you get a chance. > > Please make sure you have your TNC set to accept everything > that comes > across your "screen" as not to cause QRM to a sta that is already con. > to the "PMS" > > From what I have been seeing the Knwd THD-7A even on low pwr is doing > a VERY good job. > > HAVE FUN > > > Dave > N6CO > MIR Sysop > > > > ---- > Via the amsat-bb mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA. > To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe amsat-bb" to Majordomo@amsat.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 22:24:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA14684 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:24:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: "Don L. Brown" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:28:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] TH D7 Priority: normal In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906090323.UAA06279@la.znet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Can the D7 be used as the tnc for APRS-plus ver.922. If so what tnc do you select from the tnc list. D7 is not one of the choices.Is there anything else I should know. Thanks Don WB6DUO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 22:50:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA15361 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:50:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Chris Burgardt To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: MIR testing Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:50:11 -0700 Encoding: 32 TEXT List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BEB1F0.86960A80@mg134-226.ricochet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've had good luck on the predictions using a URL posted to this reflector recently: http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/realtime/jtrack/Spacecraft.html It seems simple enough to me. 73, Chris Burgardt/KQ6JZ ---------- From: Bob Bruninga[SMTP:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 2:39 PM To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] MIR testing I konw there is a WEB site that shows where MIR is NOW. but is there any site that easily gives predictions for the next few days? We need links to such sites so that others can find when MIR is overhead. I dont hve time to keep posting predictions everyday liike I have been doing. Im sure such a site exists...? This would be for newbee THD7 owners to listen for MIR bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kq6jz@qsl.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 22:56:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA15462 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:56:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Ed Palmer" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR 0105Z & 0242Z Passes Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:56:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00fa01beb22c$043b8fb0$20194810@palmered1.pso.dec.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi, Work kept me from attempting any passes until this evening. I heard nada on the 2330Z pass (1830CDT), and then had to run the D7 unattended and in the car because of a dinner meeting. When I got back to it, I found the following stations had been heard on the 0105Z (2005CDT) and 0242Z (2147CDT) passes from Houston, just down the street from the Johnson Space Center: HR5HAC KC5JOE-7 N4BSA-7 K9MTN-7 KB8RWI KK5YY-7 W0DEL KC5UWA-7 N6GPS-7 KC7LSP I've now worked Mir via the D7 on three consecutive days in three different states (AL, LA, and TX). I'm starting to feel like I've travelled as much as it does, and I'm not done yet (TX & FL tomorrow, FL Thursday, AL Friday and back home to FL). Although I may not have as much of a chance to continue this until Thursday afternoon, I'll probably try 1W mobile when possible on Thursday and Friday. --Ed ----- Ed Palmer, KU4LY Navarre, FL ku4ly@arrl.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 8 23:04:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA15745 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:04:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR 0105Z Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:03:55 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Only copied N4BSA-7 and KU4LY-7 on this pass with D7 and stock duck. I was in Tampa at the time and just got out of a meeting in time to listen to the pass. 73 Paul KR4YL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 10:05:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA17469 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:05:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:5:4 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH D7 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Gerald Schmitt" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk There is a file that Bart doesn't choose to include with his distribution. The name is initthd7.tnc it looks like a text file so be careful when storing it as Windoze will try and give it a .txt if you find it and save it as "all files" all will be right. This file is included with APRSDos and others. If you can't find it I will email it to you but I am on planes the next couple of days. Over the weekend I tried APRS+SA and did not like it too much. I was driving most of the time so the test was not fair. My solution with the TH-D7A and SA is to connect in parallel the GPS and the computer letting SA do the moving map and the TH-D7A do the APRS. You don't get immediate updates of other stations this way but you are able to control the size of the moving map. I tend to zoom in and out as circumstances dictate. Perhaps you can do this in APRS+SA but I can't figure out how. I'm still on the learning curve with this so stay tuned. Oh how do I parallel the computer/GPS OK that's easy. The TH-D7A want the datain and dataout reversed from the way the computer wants them so I used an old laplink cable remember on the same end the pinouts in the DB9 and DB25 are equivilent so what you do is attach the data cable from the GPS to one of these and the other to the computer serial in. That gives you GPS data in to the computer as it should be. Then attach the TH-D7A data cable to the other end of the laplink cable you will have the datain and dataout lines reversed(along with some others but they don't play in this)remember to stuff the 2.5mm connector into the GPS port on the TH-D7A and it will receive the NEMA as well as sending received stations to the GPS. Works good tastes great. Since the reported stations are being sent by the TH-D7A there should be a way to paint them on the SA map I'm giving that some thought. If I'm doing something stupid and APRS+SA will do what I want I would love to know that $60 is not worth my time to hack SA6 email to Brent has not been answered so I appeal to others doing this for guidance. Adios and 73 Jerry KK5YY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 10:25:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA18015 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:25:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: ron.reeves@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 08:21:54 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ron Reeves Subject: [htaprs] Re: MIR testing Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990609152547.EXSS20478@ronr> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id KAA18015 At 05:39 PM 6/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >I konw there is a WEB site that shows where MIR is NOW. but is there any >site that easily gives predictions for the next few days?  Bob, that same site offers an email service to send you predictions for the next few passes. I set it up to email me MWF with 3 days of passes. You can choose which things you want to track and it will send you the mail. Below is a sample of the info it sent me this morning for Vancouver WA. I hope this is what you wanted. http://liftoff.m sfc.nasa.gov/RealTime/JPass/PassGenerator/ Ron Reeves N7QXO > Start Time:6/09 Latitude46.9667 End Time:6/12 Longitude-122.9 Time Zone:UTC-7.0 MIR approx. visual mag = -0.5 Date (mm/dd)RiseSetDuration (mm:ss)Sun Lit (mm:ss)Max. Elevation Aprox. Image 6/0901:37:30pm WSWENE10:1510:1561 N 6/0903:13:15pm WNWENE10:0010:0031 N 6/0904:48:51pm WNWESE10:1510:1551 N 6/0906:24:14pm WNWSE09:4509:4529 SSW 6/1010:54:29am SENE08:1508:159 SE 6/1012:28:14pm SWENE10:1510:1560 SSE 6/1002:03:45pm WENE10:0010:0037 NNW 6/1003:39:30pm WNWE10:0010:0035 N 6/1005:14:54pm WNWESE10:1510:1570 SW 6/1006:50:36pm WSSE08:3008:3011 SW 6/1111:19:17am SWENE09:4509:4525 SE 6/1112:54:11pm WSWENE10:1510:1558 N 6/1102:29:58pm WNWENE10:0010:0031 N 6/1104:05:30pm WNWESE10:1510:1554 N 6/1105:40:54pm WNWSE09:4509:4526 SSW 6/1210:10:53am SENE08:1508:1510 SE 6/1211:44:44am WSWENE10:1510:1565 SE Though we make every effort to provide accurate information, these predictions are for educational and entertainment purposes only. To update your satellite selections or unsubscribe visit: http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/RealTime/JPass/PassGenerator/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 11:40:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA20372 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:40:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:40:12 Subject: [htaprs] Getting started with latest APRS and TH-D7A To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Thomas E. Hatton" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I am sure I am forgetting something obvious, but when I try to start APRS with my TH-D7A on the APRS frequency and in the TNC mode, I get error 68, then if you don't press "Q", it hangs.... I have tried several different ways and can't get past the start-up. Doest he TH-D7A need to be in Any help on-line or off-line would be appreciated! Thanks 73 Tom KE4PCV Manassas, VA TEHatton@aol.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 14:00:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA24570 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:00:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:59:48 Subject: [htaprs] D7 Heat Stress problems? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Bob Derderian" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Last night I went to listen for MIR and fired up the GPS-III and D7 in the truck. Normally I get a 'lock' from the GPS in about 90 seconds and I did this time too, but the D7 just kept beeping and a check of the POS display showed no posit data transferred from the GPS to the D7. Checked the setup of the GPS, everything looks good. I had just used this same setup (cables and all) the other night and it worked without a hitch. Now the time in between these uses the HT was in the truck in the parking lot in 95+ deg heat. Did the thing cook or what? Any ideas what could have gone wrong with it? 73...Bob, N2IPH n2iph@qsl.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 14:17:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA25032 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:17:26 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:50:07 MDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH D7 Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-11,13-16 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990609.131344.-378285.1.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:28:28 -0700 "Don L. Brown" writes: >Can the D7 be used as the tnc for APRS-plus ver.922. If so what >tnc do you select from the tnc list. D7 is not one of the choices.Is > >there anything else I should know. >Thanks >Don WB6DUO Hi Don I made a blank file labled THD7.tnc and select it as the TNC setup file and APRS+ seems to be happy with that. C U and good luck Jim Baremore K5QQ ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 14:39:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA25491 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:39:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: "Don L. Brown" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:44:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] d7 with dockking amp Priority: normal In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906091939.MAA27913@la.znet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone experienced a modem reset on d7 with booster amp on high power. When i transmit in packet mode (high power) it resets the d7 with Tasco Radio Modem and etc message. Packet connect then disconnects. It does not do this when i go to low(L) power. This is a Mirage docking amp, also tried it on friends Maha and same problem. Has anyone experienced this. Thanks Don Brown --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 15:52:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA28202 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:52:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] MIR PASS 1340 PDT Date: Wed, 9 Jun 99 13:52:41 -0700 From: David Dobbins To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <20580708709347@Localaccess.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I had a KD6?? station, along with KB8RWI but couldn't copy the email for the CA station. Also sent and received an APRS one-liner with Ron/N7QXO-7 on his TH-D7A in Vancouver, WA. I was able to show this to several MS students who were in awe that a little walkie talkie could transmit all the way to MIR in its 220 mile orbit. Dave/K7GPS-7 in Pe Ell, WA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 15:58:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA28453 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:58:43 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: pat-pythagoras@SanMateo01.pop.internex.net Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:58:12 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: pathardy@pythagoras.org (Pat Hardy) Subject: [htaprs] Received via MIR List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here in CM87UK (San Francisco Peninsula) I received a "Hi" bulletin from N7QXO-7 via MIR at about 1:40 PDT. It's lucky I cranked up OrbiTrak on my Macintosh in time to catch the pass. I ran into the yard waving my TH-D7A with its 14" whip antenna just as the bulletin arrived. Pat Hardy KE6WDR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 17:28:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA01202 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:28:33 -0500 (CDT) From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: [Kenwood] TH-D7A Band change? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:28:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: kenwood@qth.net, htaprs@lists.tapr.org (HT APRS list at TAPR) In-Reply-To: from "Brad Nowak" at Jun 9, 99 08:08:38 am Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906092228.AA04212@world.std.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I'm not aware of a D7A specific list so I'll ask my question here. The other responder is correct that HTAPRS is the best forum, although it's not specifically specific to the D7A, there aren't many other HT APRS combinations in use (some PicoTNC's w/APRS of course). I'm CC:ing that forum in case anyone there has more info. > Has anyone experienced a random band change with the TH-D7A? While using, > for no apparent reason, the radio will change bands from 2m to 440. This Are you referring to switching from VFO-A current to VFO-B current with arrow (as hitting A/B), or are you referring to switching VFO-B from 2m to 440 or back (as hitting F-A/B when in VFO-B; doing so in VFO-A would switch it to air-band). > can happen with > keypad lock on or off. Odd. You can set whether keypad lock allows channel change via knob-spin up/down, so some things aren't ignored in keypad lock, this is surprising. > Someone suggested that it might be related to some sort of remote > capability. If there is a resistance that is neither a short nor open on the "stereo" ring of the MIC plug, the radio will activate one of three "remote" functions, one of which defaults to A/B switch, based on measurement of resistance. (Thus three resistors and three switches on a mic get up three remote buttons.) For that to be workable during lock makes some possible sense. Check your speaker-mic plug for corrosion/crud? (This mic-control with analog control is in addition to PC digital control via the PC jack.) Also note that if you recall a memory (ENT 1 1 1 or whatever) that is in the other band that the current VFO will service, it will do the F-A/B equivalent and select the right band. But you can't recall UHF memories in VFO-A, nor air-band memories in VFO-B. -- Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 17:40:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA01501 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:39:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "James Davidson" From: "James Davidson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] aprs via mir tonight Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:38:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEB2A7.47232240" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00c901beb2c8$d102fd70$400c51cf@davidson> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEB2A7.47232240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1815 edt pass from grid en93mi =20 heard n8deu n2nwz-7 n1nfc n3tav ka2bqe-7 wa4umr-7 james davidson ve3tpz=20 email ve3tpz@rac.ca ------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEB2A7.47232240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
1815 edt pass from grid = en93mi   =20
 
 heard n8deu
    =    =20     n2nwz-7
    =    =20     n1nfc
    =    =20     n3tav
    =    =20     ka2bqe-7
    =    =20     wa4umr-7
 
 
james davidson = ve3tpz 
email ve3tpz@rac.ca
 
------=_NextPart_000_00C6_01BEB2A7.47232240-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 17:43:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA01586 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:43:14 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: ron.reeves@postoffice.worldnet.att.net (Unverified) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 15:38:16 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ron Reeves Subject: [htaprs] MIR Cc: wd6bfc@arrl.net, n6gps@garlic.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990609224233.UWHY3641@ronr> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On the 3:13 PST Pass in Vancouver WA I saw: KB8RWI WA6YLB-6 674 MILES K7GPS-7 65.8 MILES WA7RVV-7 271 MILES WD6BFC 350 MILES KD6VYV-7 640 MILES N6GPS-7 615 MILES I also received messages from WA7RVV, K7GPS-7, WA6YLB-6. If anyone wants to swap QSL cards let me know. Or if they want to plan on "contacting" each other on the next pass with one liners. Ron Reeves N7QXO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 17:51:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA01803 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:51:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:51:4 Subject: [htaprs] Seeing Course and Speed on ARPS.NET To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "KEN STONECIPHER" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I just got a Kenwood TH-D7A and love it! What a great transciever. Also, my complements to TAPR. I followed the recommended setup for the D7A and it worked perfectly the first time. I appreciate TAPR so much I joined the group. I do have one question. I see my call sign on APRS.NET but I do not see my course and speed when I am in my vehicle with my D7A. I have followed the directions in the user group and do see my lat and long changes when my icon changes on APRS.NET. Could it be because I am using an running man rather than a car or truck icon ? That sounds like a dumb question but I thought I would ask. All help is appreciated. Any idea on how I can correct this problem. FYI I have a Garmin III+ connected to my DH-7A. Both appear to be working correctly. I highly recommend the TH-D7A and this user group. Thank you in advance for your help. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 18:54:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA03370 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:54:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Vermonts Traveling MIR/D7 Roadshow hits 5 for 5 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:53:36 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well I hit the road about 1045. off to Mount Peculiar (aka Montpelier, our illustrious state capitol), was in and out of DMV in seven minutes (some sort of a record) and off down the road toward the south end of the state. For the 1204 EDT pass I was in the parking lot of a Burger King in Barre VT, standing in the rain doin my thing and drawing very strange looks from people. One person wanted to know if I was searching for UFOs, cause if I was he knew "right where to find them!" The 1338 EDT pass saw me in the parking lot of the VA Hospital in White River Junction on the VT-NH boarder where I-91 and I-89 cross. The 1513 EDT pass found me in the parking lot behind the Dartmouth BookStore in Hanover NH. The 1649 EDT pass found me headed back north again at the rest area on I-89 near Sharon VT where they have the Vermont VietNam Veteran's Memorial. i got carefully checked out by two vermont State troopers. The last pass of the day of consequence at 1824 EDT put me still on I-89 northbound, atop of French Hill near Williston VT and not too far from home. Got checked out again by a VSP tropper and a couple of strange looking truck drivers. In general, all of the passes were hot. Activity was high. I had switched cars with my girlfirend so I didn't have my TM-261A, but I found that I could just lay the talkie on the dashboard and read a book and I would get a coule of grabage bursts that more than amply gave me time to get out of the car and work the pass. I really don't know who I worked on which pass, but among the stations my D7 listed for the five passes; N8DEU N2NWZ-7 (at least two passes) N1NFC VE3TPZ-7 N3TAV WA4UMR-7 N1QPR-7 - every pass I think VE3XF-2 VE3KBL-7 N3UYI-7 - not sure if this was from earlier day copied bulletin messages from N1NFC "Hi everybody via MIR" VE3TPZ-7 "Hello from grid" copied personal message N1QPR-7 "Hi from Bill" sent a reply and got an ACK for the message saw a lot o packets from ?? WB8YFL (I hope I have the call right) and a few others. Something this much fun seems to me it oughta be illegal or immoral or something ... oh well back to teaching school tomorrow. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." -- Nietzche --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 19:51:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA05342 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:51:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:51:13 Subject: [htaprs] Silence is not always golden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk After much anticipation, and checking Bobs site for Mir location, I climbed to the roof with my new TH-D7a all set up to try my luck. It was dead silence for the whole pass 8:02 pm to about 8:08 pm. So much so that immediatelyafterward I had to tune to a local freq to make sure the HT was working. It was. I followed all the criteria for comms to Mir and am mystified why I heard nothing. It was overcast maybe that was the problem. I did try transmitting even though I couldn't hear anything. I am a newbie ham and could benefit from any insight as to what if anything went wrong. Thanks. KB1DZN "Kell" mhays@snet.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 21:11:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA07633 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:11:33 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: pat-pythagoras@SanMateo01.pop.internex.net Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:09:35 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: pathardy@pythagoras.org (Pat Hardy) Subject: [htaprs] heard from MIR List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk During the 1830 PDT pass, I heard these posits with my D7A & 14" whip: N7QXO-7, 572 miles to the north KC5JOE-7, 1461 miles to the east (Hank in Flower Mound, Texas) AA0QC, 946 miles to the east N6GPS-7, 65 miles to the southeast R0MIR's ID came in strong. I also received these bulletins: N7QXO-7, "HI ALL" N5CV, "This message void where prohibited by law." KC5JOE-7, "HI" Very cool. Had a message of my own digipeated; don't know if the recipient picked it up. (The AP newswire reported this morning that two veteran cosmonauts in the Russian Parliment are launching a fund-raiser to save Mir. The story says that this thing costs $250 million/year to keep in orbit. _Star Wars: The Phantom Menace_ took in roughly that much in ticket sales during its first week in the theater...) Pat Hardy KE6WDR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 9 21:46:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA08356 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:46:17 -0500 (CDT) From: n6gps@garlic.com (Brent Bolen) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: d7 with dockking amp Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 02:48:48 GMT Organization: Lazy Bee Software Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <376125c6.304107740@garlic.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id VAA08356 I have exactly the same problem if I use an unfiltered power supply. The setup is a 40 amp 12 volt supply, and a power cable from Mouser. When I am in packet mode, and transmit at high power, it appears that the radio (or at least the TNC) resets. If I set the radio to low or extra low power, I don't have this problem. I have this happen when I am running PocketAPRS, and when the TNC resets, it no longer likes to talk to PocketAPRS. If I switch over to the KenWood "Filtered" cable, I do not have the problem. I had assumed that the radio was drawing too much, but on a 40 amp supply I don't know how that is possible. When I get around to it I want to look at the voltage going into the radio when it is keyed up to see if there is something funny going on If you figure something out first, please let me know. n6gps, Brent On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:44:01 -0700, you wrote: >Has anyone experienced a modem reset on d7 with booster amp >on high power. When i transmit in packet mode (high power) it >resets the d7 with Tasco Radio Modem and etc message. Packet >connect then disconnects. It does not do this when i go to low(L) >power. >This is a Mirage docking amp, also tried it on friends Maha and >same problem. >Has anyone experienced this. >Thanks >Don Brown > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: N6GPS@GARLIC.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 00:06:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA20148 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:06:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Jeff Tong" From: "Jeff Tong" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: d7 with dockking amp Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:23:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002601beb2f9$12c73ac0$ed3f0ecf@imt.imt.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The symptoms you all are seeing remind me of problems we see all the time in some high power commercial two way radios as well as ham H.T.'s on external powwer supplies. The D7A appears to have inadequate r.f. suppression on the external power input. When a supply is connected to the radio with no filtering at the input jack, R.F. at transmit re enters the radio via the power leads. The CPU in the radio gets confused with all the extra logic transitions taking place and goes stupid. Building a power l;ead with a couple of bypass caps between the + side and ground should eliminate the problem. Jeff --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 04:39:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id EAA07287 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:39:48 -0500 (CDT) Content-return: allowed Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:50:40 +0200 From: "Schayk A.H. van" Subject: [htaprs] magellan gps300 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <710E1F0BA36DD211893E0008C71C6466083820@triton> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello Does anyone know this gps300 from magellan. Is it any good for use with the thd7 (old firmware) It seem realy cheap for under $100. I found 1 url: http://linux1.asbank.com/~valco/gps/gps300.htm 73 de Andre PE1RDW http://www.pe1rdw.demon.nl --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 06:12:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id GAA08579 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:12:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 04:09:27 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel Organization: http://www.radiohound.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: magellan gps300 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <375F9CE7.F72339DF@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Yes it is cheap, put it looks like it has no NMEA port. This makes it usable only by manually punching in your co-ordinates. I would go with a Garmin GPS-12 if you are looking for a low price model. It sells for $145 at http://www.gpscity.com/ Walter http://www.radiohound.com "Schayk A.H. van" wrote: > > Hello > > Does anyone know this gps300 from magellan. > Is it any good for use with the thd7 (old firmware) > It seem realy cheap for under $100. > > I found 1 url: http://linux1.asbank.com/~valco/gps/gps300.htm > > 73 de Andre PE1RDW > http://www.pe1rdw.demon.nl --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 07:53:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA10702 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:52:56 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:38:52 MDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH D7 Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-8,10-20,22-23,29-39,44-45,49-51,54-57,60-63 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990610.065102.-308419.2.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Jerry Congratulations on getting your station up and going!! On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:5:4 "Gerald Schmitt" writes: >snip... > >Over the weekend I tried APRS+SA and did not like it too much. I >was driving most of the time so the test was not fair. Humm, I saw you on the map in White Rock over the weekend but did not see any movement of your station. >My solution with the TH-D7A and SA is to connect in parallel the GPS and >the computer letting SA do the moving map and the TH-D7A do the >APRS. You don't get immediate updates of other stations this way but >you are able to control the size of the moving map. I tend to zoom in >and out as circumstances dictate. Perhaps you can do this in APRS+SA >but I can't figure out how. > Yep, that's easy but is buried down in the menu's a bit and easy to overlook when you first start playing with APRS+ COMMANDS; MAP FEATURES; CENTER AND MAGNITUDE will get you more control of your display when APRS+ writes an overlay. You can also zoom by using the page up and down buttons in SA like you normally do once APRS+ draws a map. I guess maybe that is obvious but just to clarify that once an overlay is drawn, any manual manipulations of the screen are as you normally use SA >Snip > >Since the reported stations are being sent by the TH-D7A there should >be a way to paint them on the SA map I'm giving that some thought. > >If I'm doing something stupid and APRS+SA will do what I want I would >love to know that $60 is not worth my time to hack SA6 I have run mine as a fixed station by putting the TH-D7 in the TNC mode and feeding it to APRS+. My position was entered into the APRS+ setup screen. That works fine for a fixed station but note that the TH-D7 is just being used as a TNC/Radio combination. All of the APRS info is being generated by the APRS+ program. To do tracking whle running APRS+ will require a 2nd Serial port for the GPS data to go to the APRS program via the Port 2 GPS input. Alternatively you can build the one transistor HSP adaptor and then select that mode on the Port 1 TNC input. This is exactly the same as is done with other TNC's except for the new KPC3+ Ver 8.3 ROM units which have a 2nd firmware port built into the TNC's. Saves the cost of a pcmia serial port card... > Adios and 73 Jerry KK5YY Give me a call(296-9267) sometime when you are playing with it and we can get on a common repeater and perhaps do some long distance trouble shooting. C U Jim Baremore K5QQ ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 08:32:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA11618 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:32:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Bill_Northup@stratus.com To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Vermonts Traveling MIR/D7 Roadshow hits 5 for 5 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:25:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <1D1A4EF7AD4DD211A80D00A0C9D7DB662005B7@exna1.stratus.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Uising MIR as an APRS digi has been lots of fun. I have also learned that you need to know all of the details of how to send messages with the D7 before the pass starts because there just isn't enough time to sit and read the manual in the short time you have for the pass. It was fun to get and message to and from Brian in Vt. On that pass I was showing someone else the D7 and how it worked and that we were sending information via MIR. I noticed that I decoded far fewer postits than Brian did. I have been using the rubber antenna that came with the radio and found that it does not do to well. Today I have changed to a better/longer rubber duck and hope to hear more. Other times I have been in the office where I have an antenna stuck on a window on the north side of the building so again I don't hear much until mir is north of me. But even with these limitations I have seen that I can get a few postits and a message out on every pass that I have been able to hear any packets comming from mir. here is the list of stations that I heard KF4HJW-2 N8DEU KA2BQE-2 VE3XF-2 N2NWZ I will be on again today Bill N1QPR (with -2, -3, -7, and -12 on APRS) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 15:22:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA22800 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:22:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:17:12 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] GPS/PC cables Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37601D48.E2015822@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, A few days ago somebody mentioned a Radio Shack coiled cellular phone cable that could be used with the D7 to make a PC cable or to use with their GPS. Would someone please send that RS SKU # so I can buy two of them? I want to have the PalmPilot and GPS hooked up for this weekend. I plan on showing this rig off to my fellow ARES/RACES col- leagues early Saturday morning! 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 15:37:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA23253 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:37:49 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Vermonts Traveling MIR/D7 Roadshow hits 5 for 5 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:36:22 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/10/99 9:25 AM, Bill_Northup@stratus.com (Bill_Northup@stratus.com) passed this wisdom: >Uising MIR as an APRS digi has been lots of fun. I have also >learned that you need to know all of the details of how to send >messages with the D7 before the pass starts because there just >isn't enough time to sit and read the manual in the short time you >have for the pass. > >It was fun to get and message to and from Brian in Vt. On that pass >I was showing someone else the D7 and how it worked and that we >were sending information via MIR. where are you located Bill? >I noticed that I decoded far fewer postits than Brian did. I have been >using the rubber antenna that came with the radio and found that it >does not do to well. Today I have changed to a better/longer rubber >duck and hope to hear more. Other times I have been in the office >where I have an antenna stuck on a window on the north side of the >building so again I don't hear much until mir is north of me. But even >with these limitations I have seen that I can get a few postits and a >message out on every pass that I have been able to hear any packets >comming from mir. I have been using an Antennaco single element 2 meter beam. It has a square stock boom about 20 inches long for side mount on a tower leg and a 2 foot RG58U pigtail with a PL-259 on it. I have been using that with combo of SO-239 to BNC and BNC to SMA tweenies to the D7. (I just today ordered a Comet SMA-24 from HRO - they are $22.95) >here is the list of stations that I heard > >KF4HJW-2 >N8DEU >KA2BQE-2 >VE3XF-2 >N2NWZ > >I will be on again today >Bill N1QPR (with -2, -3, -7, and -12 on APRS) speaking of 'today' - I took three of my students out into the parking lot with me for the 1238 EDT pass and lo and behold there was voice and what sounded like SSTV. It was a 40+ dgeree pass for my QTH and they were full scale and DFQ. I tried to make contact but no luck ... the kids were impressed that i could hear and possibl talk to a space station with the tiny little HT. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "There is only one war, and it's not the rich against the poor, the blacks against the white, the Federation against the Borg, or the Democrats against the Republicans. It's those who are complete idiots against those of us who ain't." -- from on the net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 15:49:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA23657 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:49:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Success at last (R0MIR works better than ROMIR) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:49:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC604B6F5C0@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Finally got the "MY PACKET" in two consecutive passes! Thanks to "Doc" (N6CO) for pointing out to me that I had "O" vs. "zero" in the "R0MIR" of my UI path. This is why I could never get my packets through for the past week... ;-/ I saw position reports from the following stations here in El Dorado Hills (near Sacramento), CA during the 12:30 PDT pass of MIR: KB8RWI WA6YLB-6 KD6PLI ... and messages/bulletins from the following stations: N7QXO-7 KD6PLI This is really fun! %-) ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 16:31:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA25112 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:31:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:28:20 -0400 From: "Maxwell C. Lee" Reply-To: n4nwd@bellsouth.net MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37602DF4.2D25B139@bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey Arte, Radio Shack Stock #43-2003 "6-Ft Hands-Free Headset Extension Cable" Telephone Accessory This is in the Area of the Regular Landline Phones. Good Luck (((((: Mad Max :))))) Be careful of the Toes you step on today, they may be connected to the Butt you have to kiss tomorrow. Arte Booten wrote: > Hi all, > > A few days ago somebody mentioned a Radio Shack coiled cellular > phone cable that could be used with the D7 to make a PC cable or to use > with their GPS. Would someone please send that RS SKU # so I can buy > two of them? I want to have the PalmPilot and GPS hooked up for this > weekend. I plan on showing this rig off to my fellow ARES/RACES col- > leagues early Saturday morning! 73 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 17:28:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA26447 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 17:28:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ X-Sender: rascal@pop.azstarnet.com (Unverified) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 15:27:34 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ron Walther Subject: [htaprs] D7 Messages Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906102228.PAA05755@cepheus.azstarnet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good Afternoon Siggers; Would anyone know how to delete messages from the D7..??.. 73, Ron -- W7AI --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 21:24:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA01670 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 21:24:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Messages Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:23:45 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/10/99 6:27 PM, Ron Walther (rascal@azstarnet.com) passed this wisdom: >Good Afternoon Siggers; > >Would anyone know how to delete messages from the D7..??.. > >73, Ron -- W7AI you don't they scroll off ... you can delete netries in list but not messages Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Despite the bleating of various socialistically-anointed freakshow groups, the vast majority of us realize that bringing children into the world is not only the most wonderful endeavor with which we can be associated but absolutely essential if we aren't going to put ourselves on the EPA's endangered species list." Winston Borden --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 10 22:16:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA03120 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:16:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:14:59 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel Organization: http://www.radiohound.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Messages References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37607F33.675A4FBD@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Yes, Use the Kenwood software and save all the settings of your D7 in a new file. Now go to the radio menu of your radio and perform a FULL Reset. All your messages will be gone. Now reload the settings that you saved in the file. Sorry, this is the only known way to remove old messages on your HT, but it does work! Walter http://www.radiohound.com Ron Walther wrote: > > Good Afternoon Siggers; > > Would anyone know how to delete messages from the D7..??.. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 11 03:06:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id DAA17329 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:06:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Mir quest Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 01:05:15 -0700 From: John Sullivan List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906110805.BAA03177@marvin> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have been trying to pass a position report through Mir since last Friday using a D7. Unsuccessfully, for various reasons, until tonight. The last pass was further west than the others, which may be why there was less traffic on the repeater/BBS. The longer antenna may have helped also. I've attached a list of stations heard on four of the passes. I also listened on Monday night, but the battery pack went south on the first 5W transmission, and may have corrupted the APRS list. One of the received messages listed below was displayed as an outgoing message addressed to the sender. Does anyone know what a "B" means on the right of the first line of the message display. The manual shows only "+", "*" or "." for that location. It may just be an error caused by the radio resetting itself when the battery voltage dropped. 73 de John WD6BTP 1999/06/05, 0401Z, QTH 37 20.47N 121 57.39W, max el. 56 deg. AA6JR, APRS+SA Jeff in Agou, DM04OD WX, 34 09.57N 118 47.29W N6GPS-7, Hello from Hollister, CM96HU Home, 34 33.41N 117 15.42W NY4I, Hello From Salt Lake City 1999/06/07, 0318Z, QTH 37 20.47N 121 57.39W, max el. 49 deg. KC7LSP, LIE QTH WA6LIE-3, Scott's Shack in Sal, CM96EQ /`, 36 40.04N 121 38.87W N6TVZ-7, D7A-tom@spectron.net, DM14GC Triangle, 34 05.29N 117 25.14W KE6JAB-7, Using a TH_D7A, DM09CM Jeep, 39 32.02N 119 45.18W N6GPS-3, N6GPS @ 50 milliwatt, CM96GT Motorcycle, 36 48.91N 121 25.30W WD6BFC, WD6BFC@arrl.net D7A, CN80TP Jogger, 40 39.66N 122 21.67W KB7WFO, WinAPRS 2.2.6 -AZPIM, DM42LG Home, 32 15.85N 111 03.85W KB8RWI, BEACON,R0MIR*:_QTH_5 K7GPS-7, TH-D7A APRS_DAVE, CN86HM Jogger, 46 32.00N 123 23.00W W9JIU, Win APRS2.2.3 -AZPIMT, DM42MI Home, 32 22.10N 110 58.33W KD6WXD-7, Steve in Mtn View CA, CM87XI Jogger, 37 22.28N 122 04.18W KE6WDR, PHardy@xeper.org, CM87UK Home, 37 26.35N 122 19.37W 1999/06/09, 0235Z, QTH 37 20.47N 121 57.39W, max el. 41 deg. KD6PLI N6GPS-7, Hello N5CV, CM96GT Motorcycle, 36 48.91N 121 25.30W KC7LSP, Hello WB6NGC WB6NGC-7, mead@usc.edu, DM04WD Jogger, 34 07.61N 118 09.09W KC6YNG, KC6YNG -CAORACOSTA M, DM13BP /M, 33 39.00N 117 53.38W N5CV, Lawnmower mobile., CM87XI Jogger, 37 21.36N 122 04.36W WB7WHF, Steve in Prosser, WA, DN06CE Home, 46 11.84N 119 47.28W N7QXO-7, N7QXO@JUNO.COM, CN85QR Jogger, 45 43.25N 122 39.95W N5CV, This msg void where prohibited by law. 1999/06/11, 0152Z, QTH 37 20.47N 121 57.39W, max el. 35 deg. KD6VYV-7, www.radiohound.com, CM97DE Jeep, 37 12.03N 121 42.47W N7UWX, WinAPRS 2.2.7 -227-<, DN41CR Home, 41 43.08N 111 49.18W N6GPS-7, PalmAPRS V0.33, CM96GT Motorcycle, 36 48.91N 121 25.30W N7QXO-7, ARE U READY 4 APRS FD? MY PACKET --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 11 13:27:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA09971 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:27:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:25:16 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3761548C.7FBB10E6@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, An assumption: Using the Garmin Data/power cable, I'd connect the Data out (from the Garmin) to the RXD line on the D7 and the Data in to the TXD line. The red wire would go to my 12v supply and the ground to the outer sleeve of the 2.5mm plug. My confusion: Where's the return path for DC? Do I also need to connect that same ground from the Garmin to the negative side of the power supply? A suggestion: I'll be wiring a female DB-9 to the end of the Garmin cable. This will allow me to use it with the D7 (using a male DB-9 on the end of the Radio Shack Stock #43-2003 "6-Ft Hands-Free Headset Ex- tension Cable") as well as with any other program that expects to find a GPS at the com port. A bit more work, but makes the cable closer to a "universal" one than simply something to use with the D7. 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 11 14:04:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA10764 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:04:43 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:57:34 -0700 Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,4-8,10-24 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: n7qxo@juno.com List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990611.115736.-390951.0.n7qxo@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Arte, When I wired up mine I used the same ground for the dc as the data for the D7A. Basically the Gnd on the Garmin is setup in a Y configuration. Ron Reeves N7QXO On Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:25:16 -0400 Arte Booten writes: >Hi all, > > An assumption: Using the Garmin Data/power cable, I'd connect >the >Data out (from the Garmin) to the RXD line on the D7 and the Data in >to >the TXD line. The red wire would go to my 12v supply and the ground >to >the outer sleeve of the 2.5mm plug. > > My confusion: Where's the return path for DC? Do I also need to >connect that same ground from the Garmin to the negative side of the >power supply? > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 11 16:53:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA15098 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:53:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] HamCom '99 - Operating tips? Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:52:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003e01beb454$c55e59a0$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk HamCom is this weekend in Arlington, TX. Anyone have any operating tips for the pack of D7 owners that I'm sure will be operating there? * Does a nearby RELAY or WIDE exist? I don't see anything on my map within handheld range. * What is the suggested path set up... RELAY,WIDE or RELAY,WIDE,WIDE or ??? I suspect the TH-D7 will be most useful for messaging since position will be difficult to determine inside a building and there may not be too many folks able to lock up a GPS inside. See y'all there Saturday! Harry, KAØTTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 11 17:38:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA16260 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:38:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:37:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Getting started with latest APRS and TH-D7A In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Thomas E. Hatton wrote: > I am sure I am forgetting something obvious, but when I try to start APRS > with my TH-D7A on the APRS frequency and in the TNC mode, I get error 68, > then if you don't press "Q", it hangs.... In APRSdos, that means the comm port you selectd is un available (or Windows stole it). Boot PC directly to DOS and it should resolve the problem. Or disable what ever program is alsomclaiming to use that COM port... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 11 17:41:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA16361 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:41:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 18:40:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood D-7A In-Reply-To: <19990609164110.AAA27971@itsmail.itsnet.com@phil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Anyone in Utah wanna contact Phil? On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Phil Thunborg wrote: > Also, do you know of any APRS activity in the Provo/Salt Lake City areas of > Utah or who I might contact? > > Phil Thunborg --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 11 19:48:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA19440 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:48:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:48:04 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/11/99 2:25 PM, Arte Booten (n2zrc@webspan.net) passed this wisdom: >Hi all, > > An assumption: Using the Garmin Data/power cable, I'd connect the >Data out (from the Garmin) to the RXD line on the D7 and the Data in to >the TXD line. The red wire would go to my 12v supply and the ground to >the outer sleeve of the 2.5mm plug. > > My confusion: Where's the return path for DC? Do I also need to >connect that same ground from the Garmin to the negative side of the >power supply? Hey Art!! Prepare heel of palm for a forehead slap ... bad design but its shared with signal ground. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The first 75% of the project takes 90% of the time; the last 15% of the project takes the other 90% of the time. -- Barry Wainwright and numerous ofthe engineers --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 12 08:03:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA19385 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:03:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Peter Black" From: "Peter Black" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Fw: VIRUS ALERT - Zipped_files Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 15:02:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000501beb4d3$d02f1c00$ee621fc4@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 1:19 PM Subject: VIRUS ALERT - Zipped_files > This mail comes to you from the Virus Emergency Response Team > at Proland Software. > > Trojan: Zipped_files.exe > > This is a new and dangerous trojan program that is extremely fast > spreading. Zipped_files or explorezip is a Win32 based dangerous > trojan program. This trojan affects systems running Windows 95, > Windows 98 and Windows NT. It has the capability of spreading on its > own using email. It's destructive payload will delete many document > and program source files. > > More information and instructions to detect and remove this trojan > are available at: > > http://www.pspl.com/trojan_info/win32/zipped_files.htm > > You are welcome to circulate this information to anyone it will be > of help to. > > If you have any problems, please write to support@pspl.com > > Sincerely, > > The Virus Emergency Response Team > Proland Software. > http://www.pspl.com > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 12 11:01:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA23283 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:01:23 -0500 (CDT) From: n6gps@garlic.com (Brent Bolen) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Stations heard via Mir in Hollister CA. Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 16:04:13 GMT Organization: Lazy Bee Software Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3762843a.524928963@garlic.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id LAA23283 This is the list of stations I have heard here in Hollister California via Mir in the last week: AA0QC AA6JR AB0GD-1 AB7IC AB7QN-1 K2GT K5PK K6EKB-7 K6TSR K7DYK K7GPS-7 K7IP-7 K9MTN-7 K9SA-9 KA0TTY-7 KB0NWT KB0VBZ KB0WZI-1 KB5EDB KB6LWN KB7OUZ KB7WFO KB7WWP-14 KB8RWI KB9UKD KC5DHE KC5ILO KC5JIF-4 KC5JOE-7 KC5UWA-7 KC5ZJR KC7LSP KC7NFZ KC7QAG KC7QYR KC6YNG KC7ZRU KC8CLB KD5DKL KD5FCQ KD5GOG KD5XB KD6IVL KD6PLI KD6SP-9 KD6VYV-7 KD6WXD-7 KD7NM-9 KE6JAB KE6TIV KE6VRL-7 KE6WDR KE9NA-1 KF6QNC KG0ND KJ7AZ-1 KJ7XK KK5YY-7 KK7DZ KM5IB KO6XS KQ6JZ KS4XQ KU4LY-7 KU0G N0JY-6 N0MN-7 N3JF-7 N5CV N5MML N5NRM N5TD N5ZNL N6CDJ N6CO N6RZR N6TVZ-7 N6VIG-15 N7CNH N7OI-7 N7QXO-7 N7RYY-7 N7SFI N7UWX NY4I-7 NZ6N W0DEL W5JAK W6EY W6LSW-7 W7AI-7 W9JIU WA2AGE-7 WA6LIE-3 WA6YET WA6YLB-6 WA7OEF WA7RVV-7 WA9BNZ WB0WNX-5 WB6DUO-4 WB6NGC-7 WB7WHF WD6BFC WD6BTP VE3CBJ-7 VE4GN VE6DHW VE7AHX VE7BAK VE7VDX Brent N6GPS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 12 11:32:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA24009 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 11:32:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:31:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] APRS 24/7 Message Sink? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 Bill_Northup@stratus.com wrote: > Uising MIR as an APRS digi has been lots of fun. I have also > learned that you need to know all of the details of how to send > messages with the D7 before the pass starts because there just > isn't enough time to sit and read the manual in the short time you > have for the pass. Remember that APRS is connected worldwide and as long as there is an IGATE near you, you can use the THD7 or any APRS to send a message to anyone worldwide who is also near an IGATE. You can use that to impress friends at any time, as long as you can guess at someone's call across the country. The IGATE in our area is up and down, so it is not reliable. Otherwise I soiuld suggest sending a message to my office W3ADO and you will always get a n ack. QUESTION FOR EVERYONE: DOes anyone volunteer their 24/7/365 station as a "show-off" message sink? It would be nice to have a few known 24/7 CALLS that people can use for demos. Dont volunteer a site unless you want it to be always full of traffic... Just an idea. de WB4APR, Bob > I noticed that I decoded far fewer postits than Brian did. I have been > using the rubber antenna that came with the radio and found that it > does not do to well. Today I have changed to a better/longer rubber > duck and hope to hear more. Other times I have been in the office > where I have an antenna stuck on a window on the north side of the > building so again I don't hear much until mir is north of me. But even > with these limitations I have seen that I can get a few postits and a > message out on every pass that I have been able to hear any packets > comming from mir. > > here is the list of stations that I heard > > KF4HJW-2 > N8DEU > KA2BQE-2 > VE3XF-2 > N2NWZ > > I will be on again today > Bill N1QPR (with -2, -3, -7, and -12 on APRS) > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 12 12:28:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA25101 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:28:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 13:26:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: Cars List , 4ginger2@gte.net, TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS Kids Day In-Reply-To: <3761EF22.AF09ED17@concentric.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The folloing message details 19 June as KIDS DAY to get them on the air. I think APRS has a wonderful opportunity here also. In APRS, consider setting your MESSAGE GROUPS to include the group call of KIDS. THen on KIDS day, you sohould be able to easily contact other KIDS. Once you get a reply, then be sure to use the actual callsign for replies. The following is significantly excerpted to reduce bandwidth: On Fri, 11 Jun 1999, Paul Womble wrote: > KID'S DAY SHOWS OFF HAM RADIO TO NEXT GENERATION > > If you've ever said we need to get more young people into ham radio, > Kid's Day presents ample opportunity to put your words into action. Just > ask some young people to spent at least 15 minutes in your ham shack on > Kid's Day--June 19--talking to other youngsters... > > Kid's Day was started by "Tree" Tyree, N6TR, under the auspices of the > Boring Amateur Radio Club in Oregon. N6TR asked the ARRL to assist with > sponsorship. > > During a January running of Kid's Day, more than 400 youngsters took > part (see June QST, page 32). > > Bettendorf, Iowa, plan to set up a station at the Bettendorf Family > Museum of Arts & Sciences for Kid's Day. They'll hand out certificates > > Ham volunteers at Kopernik Observatory, in Vestal, New York, are > inviting area youths to visit on Kid's Day, and will operate through the > satellites, listening for other youngsters on-the-air. > > Worldradio Editor Rick McCusker, WF6O, of Sacramento, California, has > printed flyers about Kid's Day and distributed them in his neighborhood. > > Kid's Day is June 19, 1800-2400 UTC. Suggested event frequencies are > 14,270 to 14,300 kHz and 28,350 to 28,400 kHz. For more details about > Kid's Day, visit http://www.jzap.com/k7rat/. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 13 11:39:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA10053 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:39:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:33:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org, sarex@amsat.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] APRS Events Calendar Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here is a short summary of upcoming communication/tracking events. Please let us know of any events that others might find interesting even if local. We can still watch from afar via http://www.aprs.net 16 Jun AMSAT NET @ 2100 EDT on GE1, 5.7 MHz. APRS CheckIn w WD5DZC 16 Jun 3 days KC7NFZ hiking in Denali AK. WOrking AO27 and APRS via MIR 19 Jun Kids Day. 1400-1000 EDT. APRS everywhere; voice on 14270,28350. 19 Jun Saturday. PG County, MD Y2K Drill 1300-1600 EDT 20 Jun Sunday. SUNrayce Wash DC to Florida. APRS? 23 Jun Tuesday AMSAT NET @ 2100 EDT on GE1, 5.7 MHz. APRS Ck-In w WD5DZC 26 Jun FIELD DAY! TAPR TECHNOLOGY DAY! APRS, AO-27 Everywhere 27 Jun FIELD DAY! TAPR TECHNOLOGY DAY! APRS, AO-27 Everywhere 25 Jun to 5 Jul KK5YY AO27 and mobile APRS in Alaska 2 Jul to 5 Jul Circus Train Baraboo to Milwaukee WI SSB on 40, 20, 15. 11 Jul 1800 UTC APRS talk in South Africa via Landline/ voice nets 20 Jul STS-93 SAREX with packet (APRS?) 21 Jul NASA Goddard ARC meeting on APRS Mic-Encoders and Mic-Lite. ?? Aug SIMSAT Launch. APRS Balloon in Wash DC area de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 13 12:56:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA12206 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:56:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Ham-Com -- Station monitored list Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 12:56:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <011501beb5c6$1fa658a0$b660c4d1@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here are the stations I monitored on the TH-D7 while at Ham-Com on Saturday. I only ran the TNC while at the convention center and turned the radio off while in some of the sessions. The path WIDE,WIDE seemed to be the way to get out of the building and get a MY PACKET back on a beacon. Gave a TH-D7 demo to a ham frustrated at trying to decide between the Icom or the Yaesu tri bander HT. Suddenly after reading the temperature of a couple of nearby weather stations and sending a message to my home station, there were 3 HT's on his list. WB5NZV-8 N5TAM-3 W5TFV-7 K5QBM-2 KA0TTY N5TAM-15 KC5GOI-7 KB5IOK KC5EJK WB5NZV-9 KC5DHE KB5IOK-14 KK5SC-14 KA5GLX-10 N5CSU KC5SYS-9 N0OOR-9 WD5CWZ-9 WB0TSX KC5QBY-15 K5FTW WB5QLD KC5GLG K5BL KC5GOI KC7IIB-9 KC5EJK-7 N5YXO-1 KC5UIB-14 Harry, KAØTTY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 13 18:28:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA22058 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:28:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:26:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Bulletin's on MIR [ APRS ] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I asked Doc, N6CO to put some APRS bulletins on the MIR downlink so that THD7's would see something. Here is what he reports to have installed: R0MIR>MIREX::BLN2 :The MIREX team & crew sends greetings to ALL World Wide R0MIR>MIREX::BLN1 :Please enjoy APRS UNPROTO Via R0MIR Again, the solicitation in BLN1 is for low power 5W QRP stations using the effecient short THD7 or other short packets. I dont think it is a good idea to do base-station-to-base station verbose POSITS, or we will wear out our welcome from the other non-APRS stations. Finally do NOT try for ACKS. Once you see your packet successful via MIR, STOP TRANSMITTING It; The other stations probably got it. If you are going to send a message, send it as a bulletin so that other THD7's can see it. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 13 18:52:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA22557 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:52:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Jeremy DuMont" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR passes Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 19:44:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000f01beb5f6$a2d1e700$0100a8c0@dumonts.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk someone before was looking for any easy way to track MIR http://liftoff.msfc.nasa.gov/RealTime/JPass/20/ just change it to all passes instead of visible and it will even give star maps with coordinates to know which direction it is. Jeremy "ߣÅR" DuMont KC2DNW -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----Version: 3.1 GAT d+ a? C++++ UL L+ W+++ w+++++ O M-- PS Y PGP t--- tv++ DI++++ G h*r--- z-- ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ decode @ http://www.ebb.org/ungeek/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 13 21:56:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA26765 for ; Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Dave VanHorn" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] SSTV Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 21:54:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002001beb611$46485f80$0200a8c0@xemu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone know of shareware SSTV software that will talk to the VC-H1? Thanks --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 08:41:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA27018 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:41:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: d7 with dockking amp Date: Mon, 14 Jun 99 08:47:16 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I have exactly the same problem if I use an unfiltered power supply. The TH-D7A does NOT like an unfiltered power supply line. I ran one originally in my car and had ALL SORTS of goofy problems. Using Kenwoods filtered cord was an expensive solution but it cured the problems. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 08:42:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA27030 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:42:01 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7 Messages Date: Mon, 14 Jun 99 08:47:23 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >Good Afternoon Siggers; > >Would anyone know how to delete messages from the D7..??.. You don't. They delete themselves. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 08:42:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA27046 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:42:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Mon, 14 Jun 99 08:47:28 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk > My confusion: Where's the return path for DC? Do I also need to >connect that same ground from the Garmin to the negative side of the >power supply? You need to connect the ground to BOTH the TH-D7A and your power supply ground. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 08:46:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA27176 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:46:11 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: k9gd@pop.enteract.com Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:45:34 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Jerry K9GD Subject: [htaprs] NEWS ARTICLE Cc: htaprs@tapr.org, aprssig@tapr.org List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk MSNBC has a nice story on the GARMIN GPS-III and the Kenwood HT, check it out http://www.msnbc.com/news/279038.asp Best Regards, Jerry K9GD mailto:jerry@k9gd.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 09:12:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA28003 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:12:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Dave VanHorn" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: , References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: NEWS ARTICLE Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:10:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <011d01beb66f$b4437f20$0200a8c0@xemu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > MSNBC has a nice story on the GARMIN GPS-III and the Kenwood HT, check it out > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/279038.asp They did sorta forget to mention that you need a licence to play.. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 09:14:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA28067 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:14:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mark A. Keiser" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Map matching (O/T) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:12:30 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000b01beb66f$f1511300$a064080a@chi.navtech.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just a quick question: I have a Garmin III. How do I turn on "map matching"? FYI: Map matching is the term for using a GPS signal to match the icon (me) to the nearest road segment (I-55, for instance), instead of making my icon look like I'm plowing a field next to the freeway. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 10:29:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA00171 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:29:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jim Olsen" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] APRS in Utah Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:19:54 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001201beb670$f9113740$8b1b9b97@jolsen.novonyx.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I am located in Utah, but there is not a whole lot of activity here. I drive around with my D7A on fairly regularly from Park City to Provo UT, but have only picked up one or two other stations on the new assigned frequency. I am also working on some software and do sometimes have a weather station operating in Park City. It is only up periodically. Is there an APRS frequency coordinator in Utah yet? The frequency was fragmented to about 3 or 4 different ones about a year ago. Just curious, Jim Olsen jolsen@novonyx.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 11:26:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA02016 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:26:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tom Schaefer" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS in Utah Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:26:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00b701beb682$b91557e0$e101a8c0@altahealth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk There are at least 30 stations on APRS in Utah. We have digipeater coverage from Orem to the Idaho border. Based on your route from Provo to Park City, you are running behind the mountain so you might not see us. We are working on a digipeater for Scott's hill above Park city so the Olympics and our frequent ski visitors will have access into the network. If you ever drive north of Provo, you will hear all kinds of activity from SLC - north. Frequency wise we are on 144.390. That is the recognized frequency for Utah. Regarding coordination, we have a mailing list for Utah info that you may subscribe to at subscribe-utahaprs@onelist.com Btw, there is a WX station in Sandy as well. Drop me a line if you have any questions or better yet, join the mailing list. 73, Tom NY4I ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Olsen To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:19 AM Subject: [htaprs] APRS in Utah > I am located in Utah, but there is not a whole lot of activity here. I > drive around with my D7A on fairly regularly from Park City to Provo UT, but > have only picked up one or two other stations on the new assigned frequency. > I am also working on some software and do sometimes have a weather station > operating in Park City. It is only up periodically. > > Is there an APRS frequency coordinator in Utah yet? The frequency was > fragmented to about 3 or 4 different ones about a year ago. > > Just curious, > > Jim Olsen > jolsen@novonyx.com > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: TOMS@INCONNECT.COM > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 15:26:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA08735 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:26:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:25:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] AO-27 Internet Monitor Gateways Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk AO-27 is one of the most popular AMSAT's because it allows Handheld VOICE communications. As part of my focus on using Satellites for mobile/portable Amateur Radio operations, this paper suggests ways to improve the visibility of such operations by tying the AO-27 downlink into the internet and WEB pages so that everyone can monitor the activity. This is very useful for outreach to kids and schools. All we need are a few stations monitoring the downlink and feeding it into the internet for access. These ground stations need only a UHF receiver and fixed antenna. Only 9 or so would provide 90% coverage for all passes over the USA. THere are two types of information on the downlink, voice and PTT tone bursts. The PTT tones here are only the 0.2 second ID burst that can be appended to the end of any voice QSO by the new Kenwood THD7 dual band 5W HT or from any radio using the APRS Mic-Encoder. First I will address this tone burst since it is the easiest. The 0.2 second tone bursts contain the stations' position, course, speed and brief Status. NOTE! we are NOT suggesting packet operations on AO-27, but these computer-readable bursts are invaluable in the rapid and precise identification of users. On the ground, these bursts can be distirbuted worldwide almost instantly by the existing APRServe internet infrastructure and instantly plotted on many LIVE WEB pages such as http://www.aprs.net . Thus, not only do we have a self logging satellite voice communications system, but also the ability to receive emergency text communications from anyone with an HT in the wilderness via AO-27 (and any other FM voice or AX.25 satellite) Since there will be multiple receiver sites all feeding their data into the same worldwide distribution system, they can use fixed antennas and fixed doppler and only concentrate on their optimum area of the sky because: 1) AO-27 is only on during the day, during North to South passes 2) During the first third of the pass, the doppler is about +7 KHz 3) During the first third of the pass, the satellite is NORTH Thus, a fixed tuned receiver at 435.807 MHz (+7Khz) using only a 3 element UHF beam or Corner reflector pointed north will capture almost HALF of the available passes. Higher gain is NOT desired since it would not see passes to the northeast and northwest. Remember, your station is only a small piece of a nationwide distributed listening network. The geometry of the sky from your location where the doppler is between +6 and +8 KHz extends from your northern horizon to almost 45 degrees. The sector is a full 90 degrees wide from your NE to your NW. No more than 3 elements should be used or the azimuth coverage would not be sufficient. If you want to pick up an added 3 dB, then use a pair of stacked 3 element vertical beams to narrow the vertical pattern while preserving the horizontal width. Other creative antennas aproaching 10 dB can be designed for just this sector. OPERATIONS: Any such UHF receiver configured as noted above, will receive the downlink during all daytime passes. To link those brief 0.2 second tone bursts from the THD7 users into the worldide APRS internet system, all you must do is have a TNC with the MYALIAS of RELAY listening on UHF and transmitting on 2 meters on 144.39. VOICE INTERNET ACCESS: This is not my area of expertise, but I assume that using "REAL-AUDIO" techniques, that creative WEB masters can create WEB pages to capture and make available the brief 5 miunute pass audio from these receiver to anyone in real time. PLANS: I will begin work on such an AO-27 Monitoring receiver for Maryland. Just looking at a USA map, if we had similar sites in Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, Houston, Kansas CIty, Denver, LA and SFO, then we would have quite a network, capable of capturing most passes. Already you can monitor such live HT users via MIR on our automatic MIR monitoring WEB page http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/mirex.html This is a similar system to monitor the AO-27 downlink. THD7 USERS: To enable the short tone burst at the end of your PTT voice operations, set TRANSMIT to PTT, rate to 30 secs, PATH to RELAY. Keep your STATUS text short or your data burst will be longer. You can dial in any one of the 7 pre programmed COMMENTS, but please avoid EMERGENCY unless its true. Uplink is on 145.85. The internal TNC cannot operate cross band, so you will NOT be able to decode any other stations you may hear on 435.800 + doppler. But everyone else monitoring can. If you do not have a THD7, you can add a Mic-Encoder to any HT using either the original TAPR Mic-ENcoder or the new Mic-Lite. See http://www.toad.net/~clement/mim2.htm de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 17:26:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA12182 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:26:29 -0500 (CDT) X-Lotus-FromDomain: OCCVA From: Rosenberg.Eric@Orbcomm.COM To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:38:24 -0400 Subject: [htaprs] Looking for a Garmin GPS-30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <85256790.0055BC06.00@OCCSMTP.ORBCOMM.COM> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm looking for a GPS-30...the self-contained GPS units that TAPR offered last year (or was it the year before?) If you have one you don't need or want, please let me know! Thanks in advance. Eric (W3DQ) -- rosenberg.eric@orbcomm.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 17:28:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA12266 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:28:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:27:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] THD7's via AO-27 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk By now you saw my posting about using the THD7 on AO-27. Here, I am NOT trying to encourage APRS or packets on AO-27. That will cause us a lot of grief. But it seems like the short Mic-E burst at the end of a successful VOICE transmission might be handy, especially if it can be linked into the rest of the APRS system. So, Again, I suggest to keep your STATUS to VERY SHORT so that it doesnt make the packet too long sounding. If you have not tried AO-27 with your THD7, it is NOT as easy as MIR. YOu must have a few elements on UHF to even hear the satellite. Therefore you must know where to point and when. Tuesdays passes from North to south are approximately the following if you have a handheld UHF beam to listen with: PDT MDT CDT EDT ... ... 0953 1052 Notice that you only get 2 passes a day, since 0932 1031 1131 1231 AO27 is only turned on in daylight. There are 1113 1212 1311 ... two night passes also, but useless. The first 1252 pass will be fm NE to E and 2nd fm NW to West. Next, you need a dual band GAIN Antenna if you want to both TRANSMIT and RECEIVE. FOr initial playing, I suggest just ignore the transmitting and listen to the fun on the downlink. 435.807 at the start, ending at 435.793. Unfortunately if you make this the data band so that you can hear any other THD7 users, you will notice that once you put a frequency in the DATA BAND, you cannot change it while the TNC is enabled. Best to put 435.810, 805, 800, 795, and 790 in memories and I think that you can change between memory channels with TNC enabled. But again, for real AO-27 operations after we have the listening netowrk established, you will have 2 meters be the data band and since the doppler is small there, you just sit on 145.850, so it is no problem. Your voice transmissions are tagged with your Mic-E posit so that fixed APRServe gateway stations can capture you. There will not be many other THD7 users. Most will be using other dual band HT's probably... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 18:10:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA13289 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:10:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Wes Johnston" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] GPS 3 map cd Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:10:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <005601beb6bb$07ef1080$9662d6d1@bbyfce> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Anyone have any data on the garmin format? Any chance of converting their maps to/from winaprs? Wes - kd4rdb@qsl.net http://www.qsl.net/kd4rdb Where am I? http://map.aprs.net/kd4rdb-9 http://map.aprs.net/kd4rdb-10 Hookt on fonix werkt fer me! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 20:29:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA16999 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:29:10 Subject: [htaprs] THD7a - APRS - Total LockUp - Line Wrap Problem To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Bob Lovell" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Has anyone else experienced problems with either total lockup where 'no' Key presses respond? Or where the "A" Freq. line turns into strange the ansi character (alt + 133)? My serial # comfirms that I should have the lastest firmware. At first I thought possibly I ran the buffer full., but when on battery alone., the only cure is to remove the battery. Hope someone can shed some light on this. I called Kenwood only to be steered here. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 22:18:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA19921 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:17:34 -0700 From: Phillip Clark Reply-To: pbclark1@ibm.net X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Map matching (O/T) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3765C5CE.2C866A44@ibm.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I don't believe the Garmin III has map matching capability like the StreetPilots. Phil KD6SP --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 22:27:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA20075 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:27:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: AO-27 Internet Monitor Gateways In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In my earlier post, the AO-27 frequency is in error. I took it from the table on page 13 of this months AMSAT journal as 435.800 +/- doppler. Ray Soifer points out this is in error and the actual center frequency is 436.795, almost 1 MHZ higher. So if you are going to listen for AO-27, start at 436.803 and tune downards during the pass. Also, AO27 is only on in the northern hemisphere and turns on somewhere over canada and turns off 18 minutes later. Uplink is still 145.850 I have heard that you can hear it briefly on a GOOD rubber duck but only during the center of a close overhead pass and if you have the polarity matched. Also note, that a lot of the time it sounds like mush, because that is what it is hearing from all the QRM on the uplink. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 14 23:23:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA21218 for ; Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:23:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:22:38 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TIC, TIC, TIC II To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Skip Westray" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk OK, now I have it too. It just started this past weekend. I have had and used the TH-D7A radio for more than 2 months with and without the headset without the tic tic. Now I have the tic tic at about 1-2 sec intervals. I have tried different squelch levels and battery saving intervals. Nothing changes it or makes it go away. Has anyone come up with a solution yet? Skip Westray N6IIM --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 00:12:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA00196 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:12:48 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:06:47 -0700 Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7a - APRS - Total LockUp - Line Wrap Problem Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-28 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: n7qxo@juno.com List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990614.220648.-398069.1.n7qxo@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob, this sounds similar to Channel Display mode. Look on page 31 of the book for more info. But to switch this mode off and on Press [A/B] +Power ON. Ron Reeves N7QXO On Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:29:10 "Bob Lovell" writes: >Has anyone else experienced problems with either total lockup where >'no' >Key presses respond? Or where the "A" Freq. line turns into strange >the >ansi character (alt + 133)? My serial # comfirms that I should have >the >lastest firmware. > >At first I thought possibly I ran the buffer full., but when on >battery >alone., the only cure is to remove the battery. > >Hope someone can shed some light on this. I called Kenwood only to be > >steered here. > >Bob > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 03:03:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id DAA03349 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 03:03:33 -0500 (CDT) Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org From: John Mock To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: Bob Bruninga cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Expanding AO-27 use [was: AO-27 Internet Monitor Gateways] References: Date: 15 Jun 1999 00:59:07 -0700 In-Reply-To: Bob Bruninga's message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 16:25:36 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.070084 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.84) Emacs/20.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <87k8t5hp2s.fsf@mongrel.kd6pag.ampr.org> Precedence: bulk Without commenting on the proposal in general, i have serious reservations about such operations on weekends over North America. During such times, AO-27 is often seriously overloaded and difficult even for experienced operators to use. People are unavoidably stepping all over each other, and picking out callsigns is difficult enough as it is. As a regular operator on AO-27, i've heard numerous cases where i've heard station A calling station B, and station B clearly should hear station A. They both have good signals into the bird. But station B is unable to answer simply due to congestion. I think adding comparatively loud, encoded data at the end of transmission means fewer contacts can be made and more tranmissions will have repeated. Repeating means two additional transmissions, one requesting retransmission and a second to attempt to reply. Under current conditions on transcontinental passes, no one expects to have what an HF operator would consider a full exchange. We generally do just enough to know we have actually made contact and there simply isn't time or bandwidth for such formalisms. Indeed, the only operator i've heard who routinely does full exchanges is XE2YVW. He's far enough south that the bird is less congested, and the rest of us so much appreciate his roving activities that space is left to complete such exchanges. He is also very courteous and always does QSOs in order, so people respect that. Almost everyone else is brief and informal for the purposes of conserving trans- porder time. So, at least until Septmber, when we hope to see two (or more) J-FM birds launched, weekend FM transponder time is extremely tight much of the time. Adding tones at the end means that fewer people will be able to complete contacts and there will be more retransmissions. As it is, many operators will not work AO-27 on weekends (if at all), due to this congestion. So, whether or not putting additional or piggy-backed traffic to AO-27 is appropriate on weekdays, or over other areas, i sincerely hope that such operations are not recommended on weekend passes over North America at this time. Respectfully submitted, -- KD6PAG P.S. I think it's far more important to develop affordable means of operating at 38.4 Kbps, now that we have two operational satellites with that capability. This should be considered both for space and terrestrial use, and having good test signals readily available, potentially several times a day worldwide, should help speed development efforts. Although technically more difficult to receive, 1 Mbps downlink is also now in operation on our most recently launched amateur satellite and could be the basis for more advanced terrestrial experimentation as well. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 08:28:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA19553 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:28:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: adams.patriot.net: sgreene owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:25:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephan Greene To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: AO-27 Internet Monitor Gateways In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Bob Bruninga wrote: > I have heard that you can hear it briefly on a GOOD rubber duck but only > during the center of a close overhead pass and if you have the polarity Correct. Ground-planes, j-poles, vertical dipoles, or simple turnstile arrays will perform better, esp. with a preamp. Moderate gain yagis really help, but require tracking (or if the pattern isn't too narrow, just point it east or west angled about 20-30 deg up; I think Bob used this trick on some of the Navy Microsat experiments a few years ago). > matched. Also note, that a lot of the time it sounds like mush, because > that is what it is hearing from all the QRM on the uplink. Yep, think of it as a "double" on a terrestrial repeater on a continental scale! 73 Steve KA1LM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephan A. Greene sgreene@patriot.net ka1lm@amsat.org Amatuer KA1LM Grid FM18hx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 13:07:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA28036 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:07:50 -0500 (CDT) From: NH7C@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:07:19 EDT Subject: [htaprs] 19JUN99 Milford, Ohio Hamfest and APRS presentation. To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Milford, Ohio Hamfest and APRS presentation. The Tri-State APRS Working Group (TAWG) will sponsor an APRS presentation at the Milford, Ohio Hamfest on 19 JUN 99. The formal presentation will start at 9:30 AM EDT. There will be a TAWG lunch after the hamfest at a local restaurant. This will be a great opportunity for people to learn more about APRS and to see some of the newest in APRS hardware and software. Come see the newest in portable APRS, the pocket APRS station. The pocket APRS station that will be demonstrated consists of a Palm Pilot 5, a Kenwood TH-D7A, and a Garmin II Plus, all in a small portable bag. Other APRS people will be bringing other APRS related items for "Show and Tell." Make sure that you bring some disks to pick up the latest APRS software and maps for your station. There will be live APRS stations on site. A portable Wide digi will be on site, also. The Milford Hamfest is located at the Live Oaks JVS, 5956 Buckwheat Road in Milford. The school is east of I-275, off of OHIO 28. GPS location aprox - 3911.75 N 08413.00W. The Milford club's repeater is on 147.345 (+) Hope to see you there, Sid, W8/NH7C Chairman, Tri-State APRS Working Group 937.866.3911 NH7C@aol.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 14:07:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA29535 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:07:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7a - APRS - Total LockUp - Line Wrap Problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:29:10." Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:06:50 -0700 From: John Sullivan List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906151906.MAA27951@marvin> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I experienced the lockup problem at the end of the first battery cycle when the battery voltage dropped below 6V while the radio was in APRS receive mode. It seemed to start a power-down sequence, but when the voltage increased, as the current load on the battery pack was reduced, it started the power-up sequence with the usual beep and greeting screen. This power cycling continued until I pulled the battery pack. At the end of the second battery cycle, the radio powered down during a high-power beacon transmission. There was no lockup under these conditions, since the battery voltage recovered enough to operate the D7 in receive mode after it re-initialized itself. I'm hoping the battery capacity will improve with a few more discharge cycles, but the battery management or lack of battery management in the radio is a major disappointment. It might be better with the 6V battery pack. The no-load voltage of the PB-39 after the lockup was about 5.5V. Much too low for a 9.6V battery. I don't think you can assume the latest firmware based on the serial number, only that the firmware installed at the factory contains the fixes for the documented bugs in serial numbers 010xxxxx and below. John WD6BTP > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:29:10 > Subject: [htaprs] THD7a - APRS - Total LockUp - Line Wrap Problem > To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" > From: "Bob Lovell" > > Has anyone else experienced problems with either total lockup where 'no' > Key presses respond? Or where the "A" Freq. line turns into strange the > ansi character (alt + 133)? My serial # comfirms that I should have the > lastest firmware. > > At first I thought possibly I ran the buffer full., but when on battery > alone., the only cure is to remove the battery. > > Hope someone can shed some light on this. I called Kenwood only to be > steered here. > > Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 17:37:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA05679 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:37:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:36:46 Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7a - No response to 'any' key press To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Bob Lovell" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk While watching the THD7a screen during a MIR crossing I decided to check the list to see if it had any stations enter in it. But when I tried to exit I couldn't. I didn't get a response when I pressed the esc joy switch. I then tried to power off., that too did not work. I ended up removing the battery. Then all seem to go back to normal again once I powered the unit on. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? 73' Bob / KC0EFC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 17:40:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA05751 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:40:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mir quest In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:47:26 CDT." Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:39:52 -0700 From: John Sullivan List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906152239.PAA28958@marvin> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Which manual are you looking at? I only have the the instruction manual that came with the radio and is also available as a pdf file from the Kenwood ftp site. The only mention of the status character in that manual is in the table at the bottom of page 78 under the heading "status". The footnote says that these characters appear for outgoing messages. In the case that I was writing about, the message was received from the Mir repeater, but it was displayed as an outgoing message, as shown by the right arrow and status indicator. I now think that the error may have occurred because the message was received just as I was trying to select a previously entered message to transmit. An incoming message or position report, while traversing a menu, temporarily displaces the menu display and can sometimes change the action produced by the next keystroke or cursor movement. The D7 manual is pretty good considering how many new features have been included in the radio, but I still have a number of questions that the manual does not answer. At the very least, I would like to see the documentation file that is included with the PG-4W cable made available for download on the Kenwood ftp site. John WD6BTP > Date: Mon, 14 Jun 99 08:47:26 -0500 > From: Jon Ogden > To: "John Sullivan" > > >Does anyone know what a "B" means on the right of the first line of > >the message display. The manual shows only "+", "*" or "." for that > >location. It may just be an error caused by the radio resetting itself > >when the battery voltage dropped. > > > "B" stands for Bulletin. The manual mentions this. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 17:49:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA06099 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:49:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:49:3 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Questions - Possible Bugs??? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Bob Lovell" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I have had my TH-D7a for almost a month. In that time I have had the HT lockup. I've experienced several odd things but mainly when a lot of packet activity is going on and you look at the list of how many stations are in it., I can't exit out of the list function., or anything else. Not one button works, not even the power on. I had to remove the battery to get it to return to what I thought was normal on to have more problems with 'word-wrap' from one line to the next., and "A" frequencies were totally unreadable. Only a under-case 'a' with a mark above it could be seen. I finally did a 'full' reset and things returned to normal. Hope you might be able to shed some light on this. 73' Bob / KC0EFC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 18:03:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA06386 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:03:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:3:42 Subject: [htaprs] Yay!! I think... To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk On two seperate passes of Mir today I got My Packet back. My confusion revolves around the messages received immediately afterward. ?? R0MIR What do the question marks mean? I also got several callsigns that also had question marks in front of them. Of about 7 signs that I saw only one was placed onto the "List". VA3KSA-7 Kevin's Back FN04GO 390mi N 44deg 36.18 W 079deg 26.31 Did I realy hit MIR? Why didn't the other packets make it onto the list if they were clean enough to decifer the callsign? Very confused. Morris Hays KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 18:19:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA06917 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:19:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:18:22 Subject: [htaprs] Mac User needs help To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Are there cables (or pinouts to make them) and applications that can be used on the Macintosh to Up/Download memory channels and list or message contents to/from the TH-D7a? Morris Hays KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 19:01:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA08164 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:01:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:1:24 Subject: [htaprs] AO-27 Emergency Comms To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >Thus, not only do we have a self logging < >satellite voice communications system, but< >also the ability to receive emergency text < >communications from anyone with an HT in < >the wilderness via AO-27 (and any other FM< >voice or AX.25 satellite) < This sounds VERY interesting. I and a lot of other Hang Glider pilots already use the TH-D7a and a GPS units in tandem to beacon out position for chase cars to follow us when we fly cross country. Some pilots go out on their own trying to reach goals over bleak and uninhabited spanses. Incidents where they become stranded are few but the AO-27 used as a backup emergency position channel is intriging. On the surface It would seem emergency comms be available only during certain times. I would love to hear more about it. Please Email me more info or steer me to where I can find out more. Morris Hays KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 15 20:59:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA10867 for ; Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:59:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] up and down the nevada hills Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:59:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <008001beb79b$d965e4a0$8eba31cf@kd8s> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk in case anyone wants to track....going to be on the thd-7 aprs from 5a pacific all day heading to a remote xmitter site at beacon hill near mesquite nevada ....don't know how far out i can hit the digi in ne las vegas, but i will be out there 73 kd8s@skylink.net find me on a map! go to http://maps.aprs.net/kd8s-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 06:35:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id GAA10063 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 06:35:13 -0500 (CDT) Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:33:39 +0200 From: "Schayk A.H. van" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Yay!! I think... To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <710E1F0BA36DD211893E0008C71C6466083826@triton> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Op dinsdag 15 juni 1999 20:04, heeft Morris Hays [SMTP:mhays@snet.net] geschreven: > On two seperate passes of Mir today I got My Packet > back. My confusion revolves around the messages > received immediately afterward. > ?? R0MIR > What do the question marks mean? I also got several > callsigns that also had question marks in front of them. > Of about 7 signs that I saw only one was placed onto > the "List". > VA3KSA-7 > Kevin's Back > FN04GO 390mi > N 44deg 36.18 > W 079deg 26.31 > Did I realy hit MIR? Why didn't the other packets make it onto > the list if they were clean enough to decifer the callsign? > Very confused. > Morris Hays > KB1DZN > It seems you had more luck than me overhere in europe. In 2 days and 6 passes, i only got 1 mypacket and no other aprs stations I did got 2 ??r0mir on every pass and a ?? pe5yes (hi Christ) It seems that these are unproto msg's in plain text (non aprs) We got a lot of dm junk from station's that keep trying to connect r0mir-1 even if its connected to someone. 73 de Andre PE1RDW http://www.pe1rdw.demon.nl --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 07:19:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA11244 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:19:37 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:19:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Yay!! I think... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ?? R0MIR or any other callsign means that the packet appeard to be a UI packet, but then did not appear to be anything the THD7 recognized as an APRS protocol. You will see this a lot on MIR , since many stations are not using APRS, but just UI frames... bob On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Morris Hays wrote: > On two seperate passes of Mir today I got My Packet > back. My confusion revolves around the messages > received immediately afterward. > ?? R0MIR > What do the question marks mean? I also got several > callsigns that also had question marks in front of them. > Of about 7 signs that I saw only one was placed onto > the "List". > VA3KSA-7 > Kevin's Back > FN04GO 390mi > N 44deg 36.18 > W 079deg 26.31 > Did I realy hit MIR? Why didn't the other packets make it onto > the list if they were clean enough to decifer the callsign? > Very confused. > Morris Hays > KB1DZN > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 09:59:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA14943 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:59:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: b1bnhz75@pop1.sympatico.ca Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:57:59 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Steve Jones Subject: [htaprs] Possible D7 bug & a question. References: < Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.1.19990616103252.0097e480@pop1.sympatico.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I think I uncovered a bug in the D7's firmware on the weekend. The D7 will not resume scanning after it stops on a ctcss enabled frequency if after the carrier (with proper ctcss) drops, a carrier without ctcss is present on the frequency. I was listening to our local repeater with ctcss enabled. The D7 stopped on the repeater correctly and stayed there until the conversation was finished. There was a distant repeater (without the proper ctcss) on the same frequency and the D7 would not resume scanning. If I restarted the scanning, it would briefly stop on the distant repeater but then continue the scanning process. Anybody else notice this one? On to my question: How can one tell externally if the D7 contains the latest firmware? My serial# is 01000054 which indicates older firmware. I bought it about 2 months ago and the fellow at Kenwood Canada seemed to think that the store I bought it from had shipped all their units back to Kenwood Canada for upgrading. I could send it in and they would check it but it would take at least a week. I am able to enter a comma into my status field of the aprs menu. Is this a sufficient test for upgraded firmware? Steve Jones --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 11:33:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA17657 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:33:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Young, Mark J" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Filters? Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:31:38 -0700 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone built a filter circuit that works for the TH and reduces the interference problems when running off the car DC? I could be smart and buy the Kenwood one, but I want to incorporate the GPS in the same interface. Not that I need to run of the car at this time (short trips) but I have a vacation trip to Connecticut/Rhode Island in July and it thought it might be nice run APRS while tooling around. But I'm afraid the duty cycle will be much higher than my normal APRS use and will eat battery time if I don't use the car DC. There was a WEB page that had a schematic, but I'll be (insert favorite word) if I know when and where I found it. 73 de Mark AA7FY mark.j.young@boeing.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 11:38:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA17751 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:38:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Possible D7 bug & a question. Date: Wed, 16 Jun 99 11:43:58 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I was listening to our local repeater with ctcss enabled. The D7 stopped on >the repeater correctly and stayed there until the conversation was >finished. There was a distant repeater (without the proper ctcss) on the >same frequency and the D7 would not resume scanning. It appears that the D7 looks at receiver RSSI to determine scanning and not on wether or not the squelch is opened for the user's listening enjoyment. If there is a signal on frequency it stops whether you can listen or not. It's certainly one of those feature/bugs but perhaps not all that much of a problem most of the time. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 11:39:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA17813 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:39:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Filters? Date: Wed, 16 Jun 99 11:45:06 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I could be smart and buy the Kenwood one, but I want to incorporate the >GPS in the same interface. Buy the Kenwood cable. It works and is worth it. Use a Y-adapter to split your cigarette lighter plug between the GPS and the D7A. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 11:39:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA17835 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:39:59 -0500 (CDT) From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org (HT APRS list at TAPR) In-Reply-To: from "Brian B. Riley" at Jun 11, 99 08:48:04 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906161600.AA23791@world.std.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Hey Art!! Prepare heel of palm for a forehead slap ... bad design but > its shared with signal ground. Well now I think I've got my cable wired correctly ... thanks for the useful websites and commentary all ... with the data probe I can see the Kenwood TH-D7A sending received packets out it's data-out wire ... but I don't see any data coming from the Garmin GPS III+, nor does it respond to incoming waypoints. May need to remote the GPS antenna to the window from the bench, but it doesn't work in the field either. I _have_ set both D7A & III+ to NMEA mode, both indicate prefererence for 9600, so that's ok. (GPS has been in that mode all along, even when connected to nothing or the power-data cable; maybe I zapped the port with static?) Do I need to select a specific 'hh mm ss.sss' mode for the GPS to recognize D7A sentences and send 'em? Or do I have a dead NMEA port on my GPS III+? I'll proably try parts swapping with a known good Garmin/D7A setup a friend has before I contact Garmin for repair quotes. 73, -- Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 13:21:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA20952 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:21:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:20:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [htaprs] THD7 Signal Strength Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Doing this satellite stuff with the THD7, I decided to calibrate my Signal Strength indicator. Here is the result, your mileage may vary: at 146 MHz at 444 MHz | at 437 MHz SIGNAL dBm uv dBm uv | dBm uv --------- ---- ---- ---- ---- | ---- ---- * -121 0.2 -120 0.22 | -116 0.35 *** -117 0.32 -115 0.4 | -112 0.56 ****5 -113 0.5 -111 0.63 | -107 1.0 ****5*7 -110 0.7 -108 0.89 | -104 1.41 ****5*7*9 -105 1.3 -104 1.41 | -100 2.24 Notice that it is a very good receiver for 2m and 440. I can copy packets all the way down to -119 dbM which is quite good. Being optimized for the USA 440 band, it does loose about 3 dB in the satellite band. The narrower band European models have a different UHF filter, and do have the full sensitivity over their narrower 430-439 MHz band. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 13:23:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA21000 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:23:23 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:22:36 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "HT APRS list at TAPR" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/16/99 12:00 PM, William D Ricker (wdr@world.std.com) passed this wisdom: >I _have_ set both D7A & III+ to NMEA mode, both indicate >prefererence for 9600, so that's ok. (GPS has been in that mode >all along, even when connected to nothing or the power-data cable; >maybe I zapped the port with static?) GPS port on D7 is 4800, I thought that was pretty standard for GPS. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "ADMINISPHERE - The rarefied organizational layers beginning just above the rank and file. Decisions that fall from the adminisphere are often profoundly inappropriate or irrelevant to the problems they were designed to solve." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 13:28:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA21135 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:28:11 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Filters? Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:27:52 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/16/99 12:31 PM, Young, Mark J (Mark.Young@PSS.Boeing.com) passed this wisdom: >Has anyone built a filter circuit that works for the TH and reduces the >interference problems when running off the car DC? I could be smart and >buy the Kenwood one, but I want to incorporate the GPS in the same >interface. Not that I need to run of the car at this time (short trips) >but I have a vacation trip to Connecticut/Rhode Island in July and it >thought it might be nice run APRS while tooling around. But I'm afraid the >duty cycle will be much higher than my normal APRS use and will eat >battery time if I don't use the car DC. There was a WEB page that had a >schematic, but I'll be (insert favorite word) if I know when and best bet would be to buy one of Rat Shacks filters and wire it up as you like. They have a 20 amp rated version for about $19 and a 10 amp rated version for about $12 Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "...and on the 7th day GOD turned off His MacIntosh" Apple Wizards Jun98 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 14:02:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA22121 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:02:45 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength Date: Wed, 16 Jun 99 14:08:06 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >SIGNAL dBm uv dBm uv | dBm uv >--------- ---- ---- ---- ---- | ---- ---- >* -121 0.2 -120 0.22 | -116 0.35 >*** -117 0.32 -115 0.4 | -112 0.56 >****5 -113 0.5 -111 0.63 | -107 1.0 >****5*7 -110 0.7 -108 0.89 | -104 1.41 >****5*7*9 -105 1.3 -104 1.41 | -100 2.24 > >Notice that it is a very good receiver for 2m and 440. I can copy packets >all the way down to -119 dbM which is quite good. Then why can I NOT decode APRS packets from our terrestrial network that are at your level of -113 dBm or higher??? Happens all the time. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 14:09:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA22790 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:09:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: fluidpwr@pop.sprynet.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:08:57 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Dave Kaplan Subject: [htaprs] D7A Sawtooth Filter Mod? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.1.19990616140700.00a70790@pop.sprynet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk A while back I remember reading that, if you did the mod to the D& you did something bad to the filter. Someone had come up with a mod to the mod to take care of that problem. I can't find that message. Could someone please either resend it or point me in the right direction? Dave WB0WNX --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 14:13:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA22923 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:13:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: fluidpwr@pop.sprynet.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:12:31 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Dave Kaplan Subject: [htaprs] D7A Full Duplex? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.1.19990616140910.00a71100@pop.sprynet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm having a problem running the D7 while airmobile. When I'm up at altitude (between 25,000 & 30,000 ft) I hear so much that the D7 never transmits since it is waiting for a clear channel. Use my old tracker (in a 50 cal ammo box) I would set the Duplex to full so it never cared it the channel was clear, it would blind transmit every 5 minutes (I move 30 miles in 5 minutes). Can I make the D7 do this? Dave WB0WNX --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 14:19:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA23130 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:19:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:16:16 -0400 From: Steve Dimse To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906161918.PAA06337@netrox.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/16/99 3:08 PM Jon Ogden (jono@enteract.com) wrote: >Then why can I NOT decode APRS packets from our terrestrial network that >are at your level of -113 dBm or higher??? Happens all the time. > >73, > >Jon >KE9NA > I ran into a problem with my prototype unit not being able to decode packets from a specific digipeater. I could hear other, further distant digis fine, just not that particular one. The "bad" digi decoded just fine on my mobile rig. I suspect the problem was modulation level, because this digi sounded louder than the other transmitters on the channel. Another example was during the Pic-E development, a timing error was made by one of the authors. I discovered it when I couldn't decode Pic-E packets with my D7, though a KPC was fine (later discovered that the KPC-3 worked in hardware cd mode but not software mode). I suspect that the D7's TNC is less forgiving of improper modulation than a typical tnc. No, I have no proof, just these two anectdotes, and they are worth about what you paid to hear them ;-) Steve K4HG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 14:48:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA24272 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:48:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Message-Id: <4.1.19990616145842.009303f0@pop1.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1bnhz75@pop1.sympatico.ca Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:50:24 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Steve Jones Subject: [htaprs] Re: Possible D7 bug & a question. In-Reply-To: <199906161638.MAA21614@smtp26.bellglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.1.19990616145842.009303f0@pop1.sympatico.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 11:43 AM 6/16/99 -0500, Jon Ogden wrote: > >It appears that the D7 looks at receiver RSSI to determine scanning and >not on wether or not the squelch is opened for the user's listening >enjoyment. If there is a signal on frequency it stops whether you can >listen or not. Mine does seem to bypass frequencies with activity but wrong tone. It just won't resume scanning if there's carrier with wrong tone after stopping on carrier with right tone. My take on the manual was the same as yours, that the D7 would stop on all activity irregardless of proper tone. It just wouldn't let you listen. I was surprised when it kept scanning. It does briefly stop on activity/wrong tone but seems to resume scanning. It's after the radio does decode proper tone and stops that it won't resume scanning unless the frequency is dead silent. > >It's certainly one of those feature/bugs but perhaps not all that much of >a problem most of the time. True but strange. It's almost like they fixed the scanning so it would not stop on wrong pl but they forgot to fix the scan resume check. Steve Jones --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 14:57:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA24515 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:57:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: b1bnhz75@pop1.sympatico.ca Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:57:44 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Steve Jones Subject: [htaprs] Re: Possible D7 bug & a question. Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.1.19990616155331.00981640@pop1.sympatico.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 02:26 PM 6/16/99 -0400, Brian B. Riley wrote: >On 6/16/99 10:57 AM, Steve Jones (sdjones@sympatico.ca) passed this >wisdom: > >>serial# is 01000054 > >it is old firmware, new firmware is 011xxxxxx But did Kenwood change the serial # on the back of your unit after the firmware was upgraded? The fellow at Kenwood said that he thought that my unit was returned for a firmware upgrade before it was sold to me. The only sure way to tell was to open it up and check the serial# on the chip. I was hoping for an easier way to tell without opening it up. Steve Jones --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 15:01:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA24560 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:01:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Possible D7 bug & a question. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:43:58 CDT." Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:00:17 -0400 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906162000.QAA31508@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk For what it's worth, the little Alinco DJ-C5T acts the same way -- as Jon says, I suspect that many HTs don't have a separate logic signal from the CTCSS decoder feeding into the scan control circuit. John N8UR jra@febo.com ---- In message , Jo n Ogden writes: >>I was listening to our local repeater with ctcss enabled. The D7 stopped on >>the repeater correctly and stayed there until the conversation was >>finished. There was a distant repeater (without the proper ctcss) on the >>same frequency and the D7 would not resume scanning. > >It appears that the D7 looks at receiver RSSI to determine scanning and >not on wether or not the squelch is opened for the user's listening >enjoyment. If there is a signal on frequency it stops whether you can >listen or not. > >It's certainly one of those feature/bugs but perhaps not all that much of >a problem most of the time. > >73, > >Jon >KE9NA > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > >Jon Ogden > >jono@enteract.com >www.qsl.net/ke9na > >"A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jra@febo.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 15:10:55 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA24865 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:10:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:16:16 EDT." Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:10:15 -0400 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906162010.QAA31599@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm hoping in the next week or two to do some serious tests of the D7 to go on my "let's not forget layer-one" web page (http://www.febo.com/layer-one/index.html). I plan to test the packet probability of reception (a semi-standard method to determine modem performance) and look at how well the unit handles over-deviated signals. Since the TNC and radio are integrated, I can't tap into the audio stream to do the full set of tests I'd like to, but I should be able to get some useful information. I'll post here when I have something to report. 73, John N8UR jra@febo.com http://www.febo.com ---- In message , St eve Dimse writes: >On 6/16/99 3:08 PM Jon Ogden (jono@enteract.com) wrote: > >>Then why can I NOT decode APRS packets from our terrestrial network that >>are at your level of -113 dBm or higher??? Happens all the time. >> >>73, >> >>Jon >>KE9NA >> >I ran into a problem with my prototype unit not being able to decode >packets from a specific digipeater. I could hear other, further distant >digis fine, just not that particular one. The "bad" digi decoded just >fine on my mobile rig. I suspect the problem was modulation level, >because this digi sounded louder than the other transmitters on the >channel. Another example was during the Pic-E development, a timing error >was made by one of the authors. I discovered it when I couldn't decode >Pic-E packets with my D7, though a KPC was fine (later discovered that >the KPC-3 worked in hardware cd mode but not software mode). I suspect >that the D7's TNC is less forgiving of improper modulation than a >typical tnc. No, I have no proof, just these two anectdotes, and they are >worth about what you paid to hear them ;-) > >Steve K4HG > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jra@febo.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 15:36:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA25417 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:36:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:35:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength In-Reply-To: <199906161902.PAA07837@bambam.usna.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Then why can I NOT decode APRS packets from our terrestrial network that > are at your level of -113 dBm or higher??? Happens all the time. I thought I already addressed that. On possibility is that the transmitters in your area are not giveing good clean signals. My experience is that 95% or more of all amateur packet tranmsmitters are transmitting mostly garbage, over deviated unbalanced tones. Secondly with the EWIDE,WIDE,WIDE natrue of APRS distributino, many digipeaters are keing up at once and at the same time. The user thinks he hears a packet, but in fact, he is hearing two simultaneously from 2 digip[eaters. The noise sounds like a packet, but even if it is full scale, it can never be decoded... Only proof is to look at them on the scope. If they look pure, with equal level tones and not garbage, then I bet it will decode them all... good luck... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 15:37:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA25444 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:37:06 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:36:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] ?? R0MIR on THD7 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Someone noted that they saw "?? R0MIR" on their THD7 but nothing else. I just checked our MIREX Web page pass files and I see the problem. THe MIR APRS bulletin is transmitted to the TOCALL of MIREX instead of APRS (or CQ, or QST) so the THD7 is not decoding it. I have asked Doc Larsen to fix the BEACON on MIR so that the THD7's will see it. de WB4APR, Bob MIREX live downlink http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/mirex.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 15:39:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA25472 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:39:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:39:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7A Full Duplex? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Dave Kaplan wrote: > I'm having a problem running the D7 while airmobile. When I'm up at > altitude (between 25,000 & 30,000 ft) I hear so much that the D7 never > transmits since it is waiting for a clear channel. Use my old tracker (in a > 50 cal ammo box) I would set the Duplex to full so it never cared it the > channel was clear, it would blind transmit every 5 minutes (I move 30 miles > in 5 minutes). Can I make the D7 do this? Unfortunately not. One solution is to set it to PTT mode and then remember to PTT every now and then. Or set a 555 timer to key the radio via the external Mic jack on a schedule. Thats all I can think of... Or insert two back-to back diodes in series with your extrnal antenna. THis should insert LOTS of attenuation for receive, but allow your transmitter to be heard with no loss. Maybe that will quiet the receiver enough to get a packet out now and then... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 15:53:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA25827 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:53:27 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:51:50 MDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-13,17-18,20,26-31 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990616.145150.-285819.1.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 12:00:16 -0400 (EDT) wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) writes: >.... but I don't see any data coming from the Garmin GPS >III+, nor does it respond to incoming waypoints. May need to remote >the GPS antenna to the window from the bench, but it doesn't work in >the field either. > >I _have_ set both D7A & III+ to NMEA mode, both indicate >prefererence for 9600, so that's ok. Hi Bill I think you need to set the GPS to 4800 baud and all should be fine. I don't know where you got to 9600 on the TH-D7 unless you confused that with the 9600 Baud packet mode. I am using an old II+ and it's only option is 4800 baud and that works like a champ. Also, for the rest of the list who are aggravated by the TH-D7 sending a 0-0 position as soon as it turns on I do the following: As soon as the unit turns on and I can see the frequency display, I turn the dial so I go off frequency a few clicks and then I push the Position button and wait until the TH-D7 starts displaying the correct GPS position. Then I turn the dial back on 4.39 and the position reports I send to the network are correct. This eliminates all of the comments from others about 'seeing me out in the middle of the ocean..." Adios all Jim Baremore K5QQ ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 16:21:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA26934 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 16:21:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:17:22 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel Organization: http://www.radiohound.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7A Full Duplex? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <33FA0D62.6E57000D@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" How about adjusting the squelch to the highest setting. That just might do the trick. Walter Dave Kaplan wrote: > > I'm having a problem running the D7 while airmobile. When I'm up at > altitude (between 25,000 & 30,000 ft) I hear so much that the D7 never > transmits since it is waiting for a clear channel. Use my old tracker (in a > 50 cal ammo box) I would set the Duplex to full so it never cared it the > channel was clear, it would blind transmit every 5 minutes (I move 30 miles > in 5 minutes). Can I make the D7 do this? > > Dave > WB0WNX > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: wdunckel@best.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 19:45:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA02600 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:45:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Questions - Possible Bugs??? Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:45:27 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I have had my TH-D7a for almost a month. In that time I have had the HT >lockup. I've experienced several odd things but mainly when a lot of packet >activity is going on and you look at the list of how many stations are in >it., Apparently, there IS a bug in the current firmware. The HT does lock up sometimes when you have a LOT of packet activity. This happened to a lot of people at Dayton which is where I think this was discovered. Perhaps you have TONS of APRS traffic in your area. Mine is OK here in Chicago. It was only under the tremendous packet load at Dayton that it gave me problems. Heck, I was in Southern California this week and there is TONS of traffic there. No problems. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 19:46:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA02620 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:45:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mac User needs help Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:46:16 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk > Are there cables (or pinouts to make them) >and applications that can be used on the Macintosh >to Up/Download memory channels and list or message >contents to/from the TH-D7a? >Morris Hays >KB1DZN Making a cable is the easy part. I don't believe there is any software written thought for the Mac. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 19:57:06 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA02959 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:57:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:56:18 Subject: [htaprs] Still trying to connect with Oscar -27 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Bob Lovell" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I still haven't been able to hear anything when trying to connect to Oscar-27. I have the uplink as 145.850mhz and downlink as 436.800mhz. I leave the squelch open on 436.800 and have a Comet SMA-3 1.2/1.7db gain antenna. Do I have the frequencies correct? I never here anything. 73' Bob / KC0EFC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 20:26:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA03967 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:26:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:26:39 Subject: [htaprs] Re: ?? R0MIR on THD7 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Thanks for finding the answer to the ??R0MIR and nothing else problem. As a newbie to Ham I want to thank you all for time spent answering questions, especially mine :) and tell you I think it's really great what's going on here. I LOVE this Bulletin Board KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 20:29:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA04075 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:29:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:31:27 -0400 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <376841DF.BCAFACA5@ameritech.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Bob, It was good to talk to you and I picked up some very good tips from you I might add, thanks again.. However, I find it hard to believe what you say about the packets received... Are all the packets that are hitting half scale and beyond but not being decoded are over-deviated transmitters? It seems so when you listen carefully, 60-70 percent of all packets have noise on thier signals, even though they are reading high on the scale.. Curious... 73 Bob Bruninga wrote: > > Doing this satellite stuff with the THD7, I decided to calibrate my > Signal Strength indicator. Here is the result, your mileage may vary: > > at 146 MHz at 444 MHz | at 437 MHz > SIGNAL dBm uv dBm uv | dBm uv > --------- ---- ---- ---- ---- | ---- ---- > * -121 0.2 -120 0.22 | -116 0.35 > *** -117 0.32 -115 0.4 | -112 0.56 > ****5 -113 0.5 -111 0.63 | -107 1.0 > ****5*7 -110 0.7 -108 0.89 | -104 1.41 > ****5*7*9 -105 1.3 -104 1.41 | -100 2.24 > > Notice that it is a very good receiver for 2m and 440. I can copy packets > all the way down to -119 dbM which is quite good. Being optimized for > the USA 440 band, it does loose about 3 dB in the satellite band. > The narrower band European models have a different UHF filter, and do > have the full sensitivity over their narrower 430-439 MHz band. > > de WB4APR, Bob > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rrobertson@ameritech.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- --------------------------- Are we having fun yet? Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 21:37:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA05614 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:37:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7a - APRS - Total LockUp - Line Wrap Problem Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:37:38 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I'm hoping the battery capacity will improve with a few more discharge >cycles, but the battery management or lack of battery management in >the radio is a major disappointment. It might be better with the 6V >battery pack. The no-load voltage of the PB-39 after the lockup was >about 5.5V. Much too low for a 9.6V battery. The HT goes into that shutdown/startup cycle whenever the battery is low. I find that if you hold the power button for a couple of seconds that it usually works. However, sometimes removing the battery pack is the only way. Annoying, but oh well..... 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 21:38:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA05642 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:38:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: TIC, TIC, TIC II Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:38:18 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >Has anyone come up with a solution yet? Nope. Never heard it except when the radio is waiting for valid NMEA data from the GPS. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 16 22:16:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA06813 for ; Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:16:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A Trip Report Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:16:49 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906170316.WAA06805@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, I am back from my travels this past week. I was able to get into the network in Atlanta while at the airport waiting for my connecting flight last Wednesday. Unfortunately, I didn't have much time to try to jibber-jabber with anyone as I had a connection to catch. Then I was in Stuart, Florida on Wednesday night through Saturday morning. There is NO APRS activity in Stuart. My hotel room was facing the ocean and so I couldn't get out very well. No digis heard me and I heard no other stations. I guess APRS isn't very popular along the Intercoastal Waterway. It's dissapointing. Oh well.. It was back to Atlanta on Saturday, but I didn't have time to get on the air due to tight connection. Sunday I flew out to Anaheim, California. Had a rental car and got to beacon with the HT from John Wayne Airport to my hotel. Then I set up my laptop and ran APRS as much as I could when my HT's battery was charged. There is LOTS of activity in so. Cal! Very heavy channel loading. I saw WA6YLB's posits quite a bit and tried sending Byron a message but never got an ACK back. Sadly, the folks in CA didn't seem too friendly. I didn't get a single message from anyone saying hello to me and I was on the air quite a bit. Yesterday afternoon it was back to the airport with the HT in the car. I'll tell you, the D7A is GREAT for traveling. It was easy to use and such a minimal amount of hardware. What a blast even though I didn't send messages between many folks. Such is life. I look forward to more of it! 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 06:57:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id GAA03987 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 06:56:57 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 04:51:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Mulholland Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7a - No response to 'any' key press To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990617115109.4486.rocketmail@web203.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Since day one...early serial #??? --- Bob Lovell wrote: > While watching the THD7a screen during a MIR > crossing I decided to check > the list to see if it had any stations enter in it. > But when I tried to > exit I couldn't. I didn't get a response when I > pressed the esc joy switch. > I then tried to power off., that too did not work. I > ended up removing the > battery. Then all seem to go back to normal again > once I powered the unit > on. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? > > 73' > > Bob / KC0EFC > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: > ED_MULHOLLAND@YAHOO.COM > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 09:00:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA06594 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:00:20 -0500 (CDT) From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: from "Brian B. Riley" at Jun 16, 99 02:22:36 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906171400.AA03446@world.std.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > GPS port on D7 is 4800, I thought that was pretty standard for GPS. Uh right ... Thanks! Lou told me to fix this a while ago, and again yesterday when I sent the message, and I forgot I hadn't done it. It took some work to get it (GPS III+) misconfigured for 9600 NMEA, and it took some work getting it back. *sigh* Thanks all. Now I AM getting a few APRS posits added as waypoints, but still not getting MY POS updated from GPS. Turned off battery-saver on both units, that may have helped getting posits over to GPS. But still no joy on getting D7A updated. Does anyone know if the GPS III+ sends NMEA during "Simulation" mode? That would be much easier for bench testing! My D7A is low-serial number; I thought the III+ was one of the few GPSs it WOULD work correctly with, so I didn't worry about buying a low-numbered TH-D7A, since I bought them together. Do I need to get the firmware update anyway to have correct sentences for III+? 73 es tnx, -- Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 10:19:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA08625 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:19:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Richard Fuller" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:22:18 -0700 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003901beb8d5$52f9ccc0$fe05fcd0@ujlxj> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have spent a little time out in the middle of the ocean myself, but I just got in the habit of turning 'BEACON' off before turning the rig off and turning it back on after the TH-D7 gets my position from the GPS. Rich N0MN "High blood pressure is better than no blood pressure." > As soon as the unit turns on and I can see the frequency display, I turn > the dial so I go off frequency a few clicks and then I push the Position > button and wait until the TH-D7 starts displaying the correct GPS > position. Then I turn the dial back on 4.39 and the position reports I > send to the network are correct. This eliminates all of the comments > from others about 'seeing me out in the middle of the ocean..." > > Adios all > > Jim Baremore K5QQ > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n0mn@msn.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 10:30:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA08794 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:30:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 99 10:36:09 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >I have spent a little time out in the middle of the ocean myself, but I just >got in the habit of turning 'BEACON' off before turning the rig off and >turning it back on after the TH-D7 gets my position from the GPS. The ULTIMATE fix for this is for Kenwood to fix the software in the radio. If the NMEA function is turned on but no valid data is being received yet, then the position transmitted should be that in the position menu and not 0,0. This is the best and most ultimate fix. Are you listening, Kenwood? 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 10:34:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA08933 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:34:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:34:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Still trying to connect with Oscar -27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Bob Lovell wrote: > I still haven't been able to hear anything when trying to connect to > Oscar-27. I have the uplink as 145.850mhz and downlink as 436.800mhz. I > leave the squelch open on 436.800 and have a Comet SMA-3 1.2/1.7db gain > antenna. > Do I have the frequencies correct? I never here anything. Try at these times Today (Thurs) PDT CDT EDT ---- ---- ---- 1039 1139 NOW! 1018 1218 1318 1200 1400 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 10:44:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA09201 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:44:12 -0500 (CDT) From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: <19990616.145150.-285819.1.K5QQ@juno.com> from "Jim Baremore" at Jun 16, 99 02:51:50 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906171543.AA25668@world.std.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Also, for the rest of the list who are aggravated by the TH-D7 sending a > 0-0 position as soon as it turns on I do the following: > As soon as the unit turns on and I can see the frequency display, I turn > the dial so I go off frequency a few clicks and then I push the Position > button and wait until the TH-D7 starts displaying the correct GPS Turning D7's BCON off (via BCON or menu to Manual or PTT), turning TX INHIBIT, or opening the squelch with either Monitor or F-Squelch on should do the same while letting you receive -- unless it queues the packet? -- Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 11:09:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA09956 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:09:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:07:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength In-Reply-To: <376841DF.BCAFACA5@ameritech.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Robbie wrote: > However, I find it hard to believe what you say about the > packets received... > > Are all the packets that are hitting half scale and beyond > but not being decoded are over-deviated transmitters? It > seems so when you listen carefully, 60-70 percent of all > packets have noise on thier signals, even though they are > reading high on the scale.. Curious... Sorry if it sounds like this is my pet pieve, but it IS! (grin). Conventional Packet is the most abismal example of applicance operations where people just plug and play. As long as they can hit the local node, (or digi), they never think once about setting proper modulation levels, checking for excessive demphasis, or pre-emphasis. They never notice the fact that they are missing 10 to 20 dB of performance on weak signals, because "it works with THIS, or it works with THAT". What they dont know is that it doesnt work with weak signals with any noise, because they are just lucky it is working at all.. I have soap-boxed this crusade numerous times. Just look at ANY packet on a scope and you will find that MOST if not ALL are abismal. THe tones are not equal, they are overdeviated and clipped. Yes, it works if you have a strong enough signal, but it just isnt right and will not work in the presence of any noise. Thus, the need for dead-full-quieting signals. If the difference between the tones is more than 4-6 dB, then many TNC's just wont decode it. CONVERSLY, if the tones are balanced, and the modulation is not overdeviated, then you will be amazed at how weak a signal can be decoded. I hear packets from MIR that dont even register but one single LCD tick mark on my THD7, but (if they are APRS) they are decoded just fine. (MIR Transmitter seems well adjusted) At the risk of being over zealous, I would bet that 90% if not more of every packet transmitted on APRS is not a good, clean well adjusted signal. (remeber, with conventional packet and RETRIES and ACKS forever, nobody cared about weak signal performacne)... Oh, it is very easy to tell. Just look at signals on a scope. Tones should be pure sinewaves and the low and high tones should be equal in amplitude (careful, your receiver may have improper de-emphasis). Soap Box off. bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 11:32:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA10476 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:32:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Lavoie Daniel (NHQ-AC)" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] FAQ Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:25:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have been following this special interest group (SIG) since March 16, and I learned a lot of undocumented features, technical information, and procedures for the TH-D7. I was wondering if all this great information is recorded somewhere in a FAQ or a Technical file somewhere? Thanks to all the SIG contributors, Daniel VE3DCL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 12:02:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA11507 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:02:50 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:33:18 MDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-4,6-25 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990617.105942.-379429.0.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk That works, I usually don't remember to do that until I realize I turned off the unit... Hi Hi... Jim B On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:22:18 -0700 "Richard Fuller" writes: >I have spent a little time out in the middle of the ocean myself, but >I just >got in the habit of turning 'BEACON' off before turning the rig off >and >turning it back on after the TH-D7 gets my position from the GPS. > Rich N0MN >"High blood pressure is better than no blood pressure." > >> As soon as the unit turns on and I can see the frequency display, I >turn >> the dial so I go off frequency a few clicks and then I push the >Position >> button and wait until the TH-D7 starts displaying the correct GPS >> position. Then I turn the dial back on 4.39 and the position >reports I >> send to the network are correct. This eliminates all of the >comments >> from others about 'seeing me out in the middle of the ocean..." >> ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 12:03:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA11521 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:02:57 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 10:57:24 MDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Message-ID: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-21,25-26,31-32,34-37 X-Juno-Att: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990617.105942.-379429.1.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:43:44 -0400 (EDT) wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) writes: (My earlier comments) >> Also, for the rest of the list who are aggravated by the TH-D7 >sending a >> 0-0 position as soon as it turns on I do the following: >> As soon as the unit turns on and I can see the frequency display, I >turn >> the dial so I go off frequency a few clicks and then I push the >Position >> button and wait until the TH-D7 starts displaying the correct GPS > >Turning D7's BCON off (via BCON or menu to Manual or PTT), >turning TX INHIBIT, or opening the squelch with either Monitor or >F-Squelch on should do the same while letting you receive -- unless >it queues the packet? Hi Bill In theory your techniques should work. However my experience is the packets are sent almost as soon as the opening screen goes off and I don't think you would have time to go into the menu function and change it. The squelch might do it but you can't hold the button down and also push the position button to see when the HT has aquired the GPS data. Murhpy would have it that after you had held the squelch open for what you thought was a long enough time for the HT to aquire the position, it would in fact have been about one millisecond too little!! Anyhow if I would think BEFORE I turned off the HT, I would turn off the NMEA option but i always think about that AFTER I have turned it off... C U all later Jim Baremore K5QQ ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 12:15:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA12174 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:15:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:14:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > The ULTIMATE fix for this is for Kenwood to fix the software in the > radio. If the NMEA function is turned on but no valid data is being > received yet, then the position transmitted should be that in the > position menu and not 0,0. This is the best and most ultimate fix. > Are you listening, Kenwood? Wohaa... I have not been following this thread, but If the "problem" is that a 00 posit is being transmitted in the absence of valid NMEA data when NMEA is selected, then I would NOT want the above "fix". THis would cause everyone visitnig Dayton, for example, to show up in their HOME town every time they turned on the radio... unitl they got a valid fix. If the radio is in NMEA mode (expecting to be connected to a GPS), then it is designed to send the APRS "null position" of 000/000. THis means "I have no valid position info". Since the Mic-E format used by the THD7 includes a POSIT encoded in EVERY packet (except messages), then event to send just its status, it must include a posit. Therefore it sends 000/000. The 000/000 posit is NO problem, since ALL APRS software is supposed to ignore all 000/000 posits. COnversly, if the user wants to use his MYPOSIT, instead of GPS, then he should turn NMEA off. If this is not the problem being discussed, then let me know so I can go crawl back under my rock... :-) bob de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 12:32:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA12609 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:32:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, William D Ricker wrote: > > Also, for the rest of the list who are aggravated by the TH-D7 sending a > > 0-0 position as soon as it turns on I do the following: Why is this a problem? This is the radio's way of showing that it is expecting GPS data (its in NMEA mode) but it doesnt have a posit yet. All APRS softare is supposed to ignore a 0/0 posit. Does the THD7 itself not ignore the 0/0 posit of others? Im not arguing here, just trying to understand the cause of concern..? de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 12:40:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA12741 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:40:14 -0500 (CDT) From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:39:44 -0400 (EDT) Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: from "Bob Bruninga" at Jun 17, 99 01:31:18 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906171739.AA20138@world.std.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > > Also, for the rest of the list who are aggravated by the TH-D7 sending a > > > 0-0 position as soon as it turns on I do the following: > Why is this a problem? This is the radio's way of showing that it is > expecting GPS data (its in NMEA mode) but it doesnt have a posit yet. > All APRS softare is supposed to ignore a 0/0 posit. Does the THD7 itself > not ignore the 0/0 posit of others? I don't know whether the THD7 fails to ignore a 0/0 posit or if it assumes a 0/0 posit for stations for which it has not received a posit, or perhaps both ... but I see lots of stations at in supergrid JJ posit 0/0, a couple of which it pushed down to my GPS in the ocean. If I'm correct in assuming it uses posit 0/0 for stations not yet posited, if I turn position filter on, then it will ignore all information from transmitting stations until they send their posits? -- Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 13:20:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA13682 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:19:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:19:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 In-Reply-To: <199906171739.AA20138@world.std.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > Why is this a problem? ... > > All APRS softare is supposed to ignore a 0/0 posit. > > I don't know whether the THD7 fails to ignore a 0/0 posit or if it > assumes a 0/0 posit for stations for which it has not received a posit, > or perhaps both ... but I see lots of stations at in supergrid JJ posit > 0/0, a couple of which it pushed down to my GPS in the ocean. OK, now I understand. Again, this is not a problem. A 0/0 posit means no posit by definition in APRS. But since the only list in the THD7 is the POSIT list, then there is no choice but to display a 0/0 when it adds a new station to the list (without a valid posit). BUT I do see that it is a problem when the THd7 sends this out the NMEA port to a GPS display. Yes, I agree, it should ignore this posit. Are there any other APRS software versions that are "plotting" or otherwise assuming a 0/0 posit is actually a posit at a LAT/LONG of 0/0? Thanks, bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 14:22:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA15415 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:22:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Software Control Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:22:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000201beb8f6$b9fbb8e0$3ba819d0@gerhardt> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I just purchased my TH-D7A and downloaded the Kenwood Software (MCP D7) and made my own cable, however, I am not able to read the memory of my radio. It gives me the timeout message. Can someone tell me how to read and write the memory channels from the PC to/from the D7A. Is there a help manual somewhere online since it is not in this Beta version? Thanks, Herb, KB7UVC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 15:11:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA16766 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:11:08 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 99 15:15:59 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >Wohaa... I have not been following this thread, but If the "problem" is >that a 00 posit is being transmitted in the absence of valid NMEA data >when NMEA is selected, then I would NOT want the above "fix". THis would >cause everyone visitnig Dayton, for example, to show up in their HOME town >every time they turned on the radio... unitl they got a valid fix. You've got the thread right. Ideally, I guess you would not want the radio to transmit at ALL until valid data is there. So that is the best fix then. > >If the radio is in NMEA mode (expecting to be connected to a GPS), then it >is designed to send the APRS "null position" of 000/000. THis >means "I have no valid position info". Since the Mic-E format used by the >THD7 includes a POSIT encoded in EVERY packet (except messages), then >event to send just its status, it must include a posit. Therefore it >sends 000/000. > Then the radio shouldn't transmit until it has valid NMEA data coming in. Obviously it knows this since it beaps and then blips when good data is received. >The 000/000 posit is NO problem, since ALL APRS software is supposed to >ignore all 000/000 posits. > Uh, Bob, talk to the Brothers Sproul. MacAPRS at least does NOT ignore 0,0 posits. Everyone who transmits them does show up in S9 land right by the island of Sao Tome. >COnversly, if the user wants to use his MYPOSIT, instead of GPS, then he >should turn NMEA off. Agreed. > >If this is not the problem being discussed, then let me know so I can go >crawl back under my rock... :-) No, stay out. Sunshine is good for the soul! :-) 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 15:17:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA16886 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:16:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 99 15:22:33 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk > Does the THD7 itself >not ignore the 0/0 posit of others? No it receives them. And it puts those stations in the list. I think the distance shows up as zero miles from your current position, but they do show up. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 15:18:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA16971 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:18:51 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 99 15:24:24 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >If I'm correct in assuming it uses posit 0/0 for stations not yet >posited, if I turn position filter on, then it will ignore all information >from transmitting stations until they send their posits? If you turn it on, it will ignore or reject packets from all stations with a position of 0,0. You can see that as it will show >P in the bottom corner of the display when one comes in like that. Of course if you are operating as a portable S9, you will see them come in since 0,0 is very close to Sao Tome! :-) 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 15:19:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA17011 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:19:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 99 15:25:10 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >Are there any other APRS software versions that are "plotting" or >otherwise assuming a 0/0 posit is actually a posit at a LAT/LONG of 0/0? Yes, Mac and I would assume WinAPRS. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 15:47:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA17986 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:47:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: Dan Greathouse Reply-To: dan@ncweb.com To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] THD7 to Garmin cable and programming cable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:40:11 -0400 (EDT) List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906172053.QAA23366@ds2.ncweb.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just a note to let everyone know that I listed 2 cables on Ebay.com and they are at good prices The first is a TH-D7 to Garmin item # 116724848 and the second is a Programming cable # 118692444 Both prices are below market and are ending soon- so if you need a cable it may be an easy way to obtain one. Just do a search on TH-D7 and they should be located. Diane KC8EAM (wife of an APRSer) ___________________________________________________ Dan & Diane Greathouse Dan's Deals --- Your connection for Used * AMIGA * Gear http://www.ncweb.com:80/biz/dan N8NBC & KC8EAM --------------------------------------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 16:13:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA18648 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:13:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Lee H. Dahlen" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "TAPR APRS Special Interest Group" , Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: THD7 Signal Strength Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:15:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001c01beb91f$9e6e3520$de019ace@kd4tqz> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have the same problems decoding with a kpc-3. And have contemplated sending it to the factory for adjustment. Now here's a good addition on the D-7. Don't subscribe to the ht list so someone please forward this.. When Operating My D-7 in the following manner: A= aprs and B= 2m voice. I have found that the signal strength RECIEVED on the B side deteriorates to less than half. Both on the meter and by listening. Is this due to the Duplexer being overloaded?? or do I have a specific problem that needs attention?? And yes the A-B switch is adfjusted accordingly. My findings in ENGLISH are : If you run the d-7 2m 2m the recieve is basically knocked out to static and low meter level. ( I am talking about when neither side is txmitting.) I know this sounds very repetitive, but I am trying to avoid obvious replies. In order to see this make sure you are using a repeater that is not close by. ( A distant station.) Lemme know! Lee/KD4TQZ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 16:23:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA18881 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:23:39 -0500 (CDT) From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:22:58 -0400 (EDT) Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org In-Reply-To: from "Bob Bruninga" at Jun 17, 99 02:19:30 pm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906172122.AA08093@world.std.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > OK, now I understand. Again, this is not a problem. A 0/0 posit means no > posit by definition in APRS. But since the only list in the THD7 is the > POSIT list, then there is no choice but to display a 0/0 when it adds a > new station to the list (without a valid posit). It could BLANK the position/distance/bearing/Grid instead of calculating them from 0/0 as if valid. (It does skip range and bearing and displays them as 0.0 and ^, but not BLANK. It calculates JJ00AA for grid, which I'd rather have blank. More annoying, it uses the false 0/0 in Dynamic POS/MyPos to compute range and bearing rather blanking them or using saved menu MyPosition until dynamic received. > BUT I do see that it is a problem when the THd7 sends this out the NMEA > port to a GPS display. Yes, I agree, it should ignore this posit. Agree. I got another imitation maritime mobile ... at first I assumed somebody had wobbled his rocker in the wrong spot, since it's easy to do on the D7, since he was beaconing S41 instead of N41. But it's a Digi! (I've emailed him privately.) Got another packet that decoded the beginning and mangled the posit, so it prints graphics in the Lat/Lon and gives Grid of TF98KA and xxxxmi (overflow) ... for a local (FN42) station. > Are there any other APRS software versions that are "plotting" or > otherwise assuming a 0/0 posit is actually a posit at a LAT/LONG of 0/0? I gather the assumption is that a Maritime Mobile in that stretch of the world wouldn't want to or be able to keep station at 00 00.000 / 00 00.000 long enough for ignoring it to matter if by some miracle he managed to cross the prime meridian and the equater simultaneously within however many feet 0.001m is (< SA Radius!). If APRS receives 0 0.0 / 0 0.0 in a proper NMEA sentence, is it also supposed to ignore it, on the assumption that if he really means it he'll either jitter under SA or wave action to something real soon enough? -- Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own one."--A.J.Liebling --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 16:37:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA19144 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:37:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:36:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 In-Reply-To: <199906172010.QAA04070@bambam.usna.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > >Wohaa... I have not been following this thread, but If the "problem" is > >that a 00 posit is being transmitted in the absence of valid NMEA data > >when NMEA is selected, then I would NOT want the above "fix". THis would > >cause everyone visitnig Dayton, for example, to show up in their HOME town > >every time they turned on the radio... unitl they got a valid fix. > > You've got the thread right. Ideally, I guess you would not want the > radio to transmit at ALL until valid data is there. So that is the best > fix then. I donno. I would just as soon hear that he is on the air and see his status and Position comment as soon as he is on the air. This way I can know he is there and I can start sending him traffic without having to wait until he gets his GPS connected up. Or comes out of the house... The 000/000 null posit only takes up THREE bytes in the Mic-E format. I dont understand what the big objection is... de WB4APR. > > > >If the radio is in NMEA mode (expecting to be connected to a GPS), then it > >is designed to send the APRS "null position" of 000/000. THis > >means "I have no valid position info". Since the Mic-E format used by the > >THD7 includes a POSIT encoded in EVERY packet (except messages), then > >event to send just its status, it must include a posit. Therefore it > >sends 000/000. > > > > Then the radio shouldn't transmit until it has valid NMEA data coming in. > Obviously it knows this since it beaps and then blips when good data is > received. > > >The 000/000 posit is NO problem, since ALL APRS software is supposed to > >ignore all 000/000 posits. > > > Uh, Bob, talk to the Brothers Sproul. MacAPRS at least does NOT ignore > 0,0 posits. Everyone who transmits them does show up in S9 land right by > the island of Sao Tome. > > >COnversly, if the user wants to use his MYPOSIT, instead of GPS, then he > >should turn NMEA off. > > Agreed. > > > >If this is not the problem being discussed, then let me know so I can go > >crawl back under my rock... :-) > > No, stay out. Sunshine is good for the soul! :-) > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 16:47:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA19569 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:47:51 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:46:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: THD7 Signal Strength In-Reply-To: <001c01beb91f$9e6e3520$de019ace@kd4tqz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, by definition, when ever you split antenna signal to two receivers you must loose 3 dB. Sounds exactly like what you are seeing... bob On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Lee H. Dahlen wrote: > > I have the same problems decoding with a kpc-3. And have contemplated > sending it to the factory for adjustment. Now here's a good addition on > the D-7. Don't subscribe to the ht list so someone please forward this.. > > When Operating My D-7 in the following manner: A= aprs and B= 2m voice. > I have found that the signal strength RECIEVED on the B side deteriorates to > less than half. Both on the meter and by listening. Is this due to the > Duplexer being overloaded?? or do I have a specific problem that needs > attention?? And yes the A-B switch is adfjusted accordingly. My findings > in ENGLISH are : > > If you run the d-7 2m 2m the recieve is basically knocked out to static > and low meter level. ( I am talking about when neither side is txmitting.) > I know this sounds very repetitive, but I am trying to avoid obvious > replies. In order to see this make sure you are using a repeater that is > not close by. ( A distant station.) Lemme know! > > Lee/KD4TQZ > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 17 22:07:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA26868 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:07:30 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 22:07:49 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >The 000/000 null posit only takes up THREE bytes in the Mic-E format. >I dont understand what the big objection is... Fine. But Mac/Win APRS do not ignore the 0,0 posit. That's my big objection. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 01:41:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id BAA09011 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 01:41:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:40:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC604E78B17@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Nice soapbox! I've been looking for an excuse to add a scope to the shack inventory... This discussion has tweaked my curiosity enough that I'm ready to dig in and find out what kind of image my rigs are putting on the air. :-) ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] Sent: 17 June 1999 9:07 To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group; htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Robbie wrote: > However, I find it hard to believe what you say about the > packets received... > > Are all the packets that are hitting half scale and beyond > but not being decoded are over-deviated transmitters? It > seems so when you listen carefully, 60-70 percent of all > packets have noise on thier signals, even though they are > reading high on the scale.. Curious... Sorry if it sounds like this is my pet pieve, but it IS! (grin). Conventional Packet is the most abismal example of applicance operations where people just plug and play. As long as they can hit the local node, (or digi), they never think once about setting proper modulation levels, checking for excessive demphasis, or pre-emphasis. They never notice the fact that they are missing 10 to 20 dB of performance on weak signals, because "it works with THIS, or it works with THAT". What they dont know is that it doesnt work with weak signals with any noise, because they are just lucky it is working at all.. I have soap-boxed this crusade numerous times. Just look at ANY packet on a scope and you will find that MOST if not ALL are abismal. THe tones are not equal, they are overdeviated and clipped. Yes, it works if you have a strong enough signal, but it just isnt right and will not work in the presence of any noise. Thus, the need for dead-full-quieting signals. If the difference between the tones is more than 4-6 dB, then many TNC's just wont decode it. CONVERSLY, if the tones are balanced, and the modulation is not overdeviated, then you will be amazed at how weak a signal can be decoded. I hear packets from MIR that dont even register but one single LCD tick mark on my THD7, but (if they are APRS) they are decoded just fine. (MIR Transmitter seems well adjusted) At the risk of being over zealous, I would bet that 90% if not more of every packet transmitted on APRS is not a good, clean well adjusted signal. (remeber, with conventional packet and RETRIES and ACKS forever, nobody cared about weak signal performacne)... Oh, it is very easy to tell. Just look at signals on a scope. Tones should be pure sinewaves and the low and high tones should be equal in amplitude (careful, your receiver may have improper de-emphasis). Soap Box off. bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k6ekb@arrl.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 01:52:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id BAA09182 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 01:51:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 23:51:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC604E78B18@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I don't object to the 0/0 posit, but it is a bit annoying that the D7 includes these stations in the Position List - even when you have your POS LIMIT turned on. Here in California there are a number of stations who never set their position yet constantly beacon their position via the WIDE's. I guess it is a matter of personal preference, but I'd like to see a station with a null position be consider "infinitely far away" when the D7's POS LIMIT function is in use. ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] Sent: 17 June 1999 14:37 To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > >Wohaa... I have not been following this thread, but If the "problem" is > >that a 00 posit is being transmitted in the absence of valid NMEA data > >when NMEA is selected, then I would NOT want the above "fix". THis would > >cause everyone visitnig Dayton, for example, to show up in their HOME town > >every time they turned on the radio... unitl they got a valid fix. > > You've got the thread right. Ideally, I guess you would not want the > radio to transmit at ALL until valid data is there. So that is the best > fix then. I donno. I would just as soon hear that he is on the air and see his status and Position comment as soon as he is on the air. This way I can know he is there and I can start sending him traffic without having to wait until he gets his GPS connected up. Or comes out of the house... The 000/000 null posit only takes up THREE bytes in the Mic-E format. I dont understand what the big objection is... de WB4APR. > > > >If the radio is in NMEA mode (expecting to be connected to a GPS), then it > >is designed to send the APRS "null position" of 000/000. THis > >means "I have no valid position info". Since the Mic-E format used by the > >THD7 includes a POSIT encoded in EVERY packet (except messages), then > >event to send just its status, it must include a posit. Therefore it > >sends 000/000. > > > > Then the radio shouldn't transmit until it has valid NMEA data coming in. > Obviously it knows this since it beaps and then blips when good data is > received. > > >The 000/000 posit is NO problem, since ALL APRS software is supposed to > >ignore all 000/000 posits. > > > Uh, Bob, talk to the Brothers Sproul. MacAPRS at least does NOT ignore > 0,0 posits. Everyone who transmits them does show up in S9 land right by > the island of Sao Tome. > > >COnversly, if the user wants to use his MYPOSIT, instead of GPS, then he > >should turn NMEA off. > > Agreed. > > > >If this is not the problem being discussed, then let me know so I can go > >crawl back under my rock... :-) > > No, stay out. Sunshine is good for the soul! :-) > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k6ekb@arrl.net To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 08:53:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA27768 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:53:23 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:53:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength In-Reply-To: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC604E78B17@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Great! bob On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Braaten, Ed wrote: > > Nice soapbox! I've been looking for an excuse to add a scope to the shack > inventory... This discussion has tweaked my curiosity enough that I'm ready > to dig in and find out what kind of image my rigs are putting on the air. > :-) > > > ----- > Ed Braaten, K6EKB > mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net > http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] > Sent: 17 June 1999 9:07 > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group; htaprs@tapr.org > Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength > > > On Wed, 16 Jun 1999, Robbie wrote: > > > However, I find it hard to believe what you say about the > > packets received... > > > > Are all the packets that are hitting half scale and beyond > > but not being decoded are over-deviated transmitters? It > > seems so when you listen carefully, 60-70 percent of all > > packets have noise on thier signals, even though they are > > reading high on the scale.. Curious... > > Sorry if it sounds like this is my pet pieve, but it IS! (grin). > Conventional Packet is the most abismal example of applicance operations > where people just plug and play. As long as they can hit the local node, > (or digi), they never think once about setting proper modulation levels, > checking for excessive demphasis, or pre-emphasis. They never notice the > fact that they are missing 10 to 20 dB of performance on weak signals, > because "it works with THIS, or it works with THAT". What they dont know > is that it doesnt work with weak signals with any noise, because they are > just lucky it is working at all.. > > I have soap-boxed this crusade numerous times. Just look at ANY packet > on a scope and you will find that MOST if not ALL are abismal. THe > tones are not equal, they are overdeviated and clipped. Yes, it works if > you have a strong enough signal, but it just isnt right and will not work > in the presence of any noise. Thus, the need for dead-full-quieting > signals. If the difference between the tones is more than 4-6 dB, then > many TNC's just wont decode it. > > CONVERSLY, if the tones are balanced, and the modulation is not > overdeviated, then you will be amazed at how weak a signal can be decoded. > I hear packets from MIR that dont even register but one single LCD tick > mark on my THD7, but (if they are APRS) they are decoded just fine. > (MIR Transmitter seems well adjusted) > > At the risk of being over zealous, I would bet that 90% if not more of > every packet transmitted on APRS is not a good, clean well adjusted > signal. (remeber, with conventional packet and RETRIES and ACKS forever, > nobody cared about weak signal performacne)... > > Oh, it is very easy to tell. Just look at signals on a scope. Tones > should be pure sinewaves and the low and high tones should be equal in > amplitude (careful, your receiver may have improper de-emphasis). > > Soap Box off. bob > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k6ekb@arrl.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 08:54:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA27793 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:54:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:53:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good point. Ill put that on the list. bob On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Braaten, Ed wrote: > I don't object to the 0/0 posit, but it is a bit annoying that the D7 > includes these stations in the Position List - even when you have your POS > LIMIT turned on. Here in California there are a number of stations who > never set their position yet constantly beacon their position via the > WIDE's. I guess it is a matter of personal preference, but I'd like to see > a station with a null position be consider "infinitely far away" when the > D7's POS LIMIT function is in use. > > > ----- > Ed Braaten, K6EKB > mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net > http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] > Sent: 17 June 1999 14:37 > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 > > > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > > > >Wohaa... I have not been following this thread, but If the "problem" is > > >that a 00 posit is being transmitted in the absence of valid NMEA data > > >when NMEA is selected, then I would NOT want the above "fix". THis would > > >cause everyone visitnig Dayton, for example, to show up in their HOME > town > > >every time they turned on the radio... unitl they got a valid fix. > > > > You've got the thread right. Ideally, I guess you would not want the > > radio to transmit at ALL until valid data is there. So that is the best > > fix then. > > I donno. I would just as soon hear that he is on the air and see his > status and Position comment as soon as he is on the air. This way I can > know he is there and I can start sending him traffic without having to > wait until he gets his GPS connected up. Or comes out of the house... > > The 000/000 null posit only takes up THREE bytes in the Mic-E format. > I dont understand what the big objection is... > > de WB4APR. > > > > > > >If the radio is in NMEA mode (expecting to be connected to a GPS), then > it > > >is designed to send the APRS "null position" of 000/000. THis > > >means "I have no valid position info". Since the Mic-E format used by > the > > >THD7 includes a POSIT encoded in EVERY packet (except messages), then > > >event to send just its status, it must include a posit. Therefore it > > >sends 000/000. > > > > > > > Then the radio shouldn't transmit until it has valid NMEA data coming in. > > Obviously it knows this since it beaps and then blips when good data is > > received. > > > > >The 000/000 posit is NO problem, since ALL APRS software is supposed to > > >ignore all 000/000 posits. > > > > > Uh, Bob, talk to the Brothers Sproul. MacAPRS at least does NOT ignore > > 0,0 posits. Everyone who transmits them does show up in S9 land right by > > the island of Sao Tome. > > > > >COnversly, if the user wants to use his MYPOSIT, instead of GPS, then he > > >should turn NMEA off. > > > > Agreed. > > > > > >If this is not the problem being discussed, then let me know so I can go > > >crawl back under my rock... :-) > > > > No, stay out. Sunshine is good for the soul! :-) > > > > 73, > > > > Jon > > KE9NA > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > > > > > Jon Ogden > > > > jono@enteract.com > > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > > > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: > > Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org > US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 > See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html > See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html > See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k6ekb@arrl.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > APRSdos REPLY/COMMENT: Reply mail addr: wb4apr@amsat.org US mail address: 115 old Farm Ct, Glen Burnie, MD 21060 See DAYTON97 HISTORY: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/dayton.html See Maryland APRS LIVE: http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/aprs.html See GPS on ANY radio: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/mic-e.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 09:38:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA29015 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:38:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Northup, Bill" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: digi in S41 Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:31:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <1D1A4EF7AD4DD211A80D00A0C9D7DB6601A9F9DD@exna1.stratus.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Subject: Re: GPS/PC cables - Part 2 > From: wdr@world.std.com (William D Ricker) > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:22:58 -0400 (EDT) > X-Message-Number: 22 . . I think Bill is talking about the same digi that I wrote about a few weeks ago and got no response. It is a digi in Rhode Island that has a lower case "n" for north rather than an upper case "N". On DOS-APRS this station shows up as north but on the D7 it always shows up as south, I think this one is a D7 software issue (unless the protocol spec says it must be upper case). Bill > > I got another imitation maritime mobile ... at first I assumed > somebody had wobbled his rocker in the wrong spot, since it's easy > to do on the D7, since he was beaconing S41 instead of N41. But > it's a Digi! (I've emailed him privately.) > > Got another packet that decoded the beginning and mangled the posit, > so it prints graphics in the Lat/Lon and gives Grid of TF98KA and > xxxxmi (overflow) ... for a local (FN42) station. > > > Are there any other APRS software versions that are "plotting" or > > otherwise assuming a 0/0 posit is actually a posit at a LAT/LONG of 0/0? > > I gather the assumption is that a Maritime Mobile in that stretch of > the world wouldn't want to or be able to keep station at 00 00.000 / > 00 00.000 long enough for ignoring it to matter if by some miracle > he managed to cross the prime meridian and the equater simultaneously > within however many feet 0.001m is (< SA Radius!). > > If APRS receives 0 0.0 / 0 0.0 in a proper NMEA sentence, is it also > supposed to ignore it, on the assumption that if he really means it > he'll either jitter under SA or wave action to something real soon > enough? > > -- > Bill Ricker N1VUX wdr@world.std.com "The freedom of the press belongs > http://world.std.com/~wdr to those who own > one."--A.J.Liebling > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 10:02:32 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA29559 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:02:31 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: THD7 Signal Strength Date: Fri, 18 Jun 99 10:07:42 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >> Nice soapbox! I've been looking for an excuse to add a scope to the shack >> inventory... This discussion has tweaked my curiosity enough that I'm ready >> to dig in and find out what kind of image my rigs are putting on the air. Hey Bob, To add to the discussion, I've been thinking more about all of this and want to open Pandora's box some more. Here's the scoop: 1.) From my TH-D7A, I can copy my home station only when I am within say 10 miles or less. Unfortunately, since the D7A doesn't give path info, I am not sure if I hear myself direct or through the relay (WD9BBE) I go through (I live in a valley, hence the use of Bob's relay). 2.) When at home I see my station being re-transmitted by Bob, and then by several other digis in the Chicago area, including the digipeater in downtown Chicago. 3.) When at my office or in that area, I never decode posits from my home station. So according to the "digipeater puts out crap" theory, perhaps all the digipeaters are putting out crap. Well, could that be EVERY digipeater? With a normal TNC I can hear at least two or three including the one in downtown Chicago. 4.) Let's assume that the only one I can hear reliably is the digi in downtown Chicago. Then by the "digipeater puts out crap" theory, this explains why I can't decode packets from my home station. But there's a problem then. I decode and copy other stations through this digipeater just fine. So how do we explain this? 5.) Now let's expand it to the other digis I can hear. I do copy some packets through them but not others. If the "digipeater puts out crap" theory were the only explanation, then I wouldn't copy ANY packets from those digipeaters. If I successfully copy one packet from any of them, I should successfully copy ALL packets from them. 6.) Sure, there's the possibility that the stations I copy are direct. Well, not likely. I don't know if I am likely to hear stations 25 to 35 miles away from me when I am on a mobile antenna. I can't prove this since you don't get path info on the TH-D7A. So, I am not sure I buy the "digipeater puts out crap" theory completely. I think the only way to be completely sure of what I am hearing and how is to hook the computer up to the D7A and run the APRS software. Then I can see what the D7's TNC decodes and what it doesn't. Last question: If my KPC-3+ can decode all these "digipeater puts out crap" packets (which it can) and the TH-D7A cannot, then I would dare say the D7A's TNC code is not near as robust. It should be relatively easy to fix it then since you should be able to accomplish it in software. But if one TNC is able to decode a signal it should be possible for any TNC to do that as well. Or is it just possible that as someone else suggested, the TNC in the TH-D7A has difficulty with long packets. Given the WIDEn-n protocol and call sign substitution, packet length can get long. Just questions........... 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 14:20:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA06309 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:20:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] FW: Software Control Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:20:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001beb9bf$9449a8e0$9aa819d0@gerhardt> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all that responded to my message. I got it to work. The problem was that I had the Red and White wires reversed. Yes the manual is correct just not written very clearly. Thanks, Herb KB7UVC > -----Original Message----- > From: Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC [mailto:gerhardt@hctc.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 12:22 PM > To: htaprs@lists.tapr.org > Subject: Software Control > > > I just purchased my TH-D7A and downloaded the Kenwood Software > (MCP D7) and made my own cable, however, I am not able to read > the memory of my radio. It gives me the timeout message. > > Can someone tell me how to read and write the memory channels > from the PC to/from the D7A. Is there a help manual somewhere > online since it is not in this Beta version? > > Thanks, > > Herb, KB7UVC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 16:16:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA09618 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:16:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Keith Schlottman" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TNC init w/ APRS+SA Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:16:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001beb9cf$cbc7f280$110310ac@mmsi.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone set up a .TNC file for use with APRS+SA and the TH-D7A? If so can you please e-mail it to me. Tnx de KR7RK ------------------------------------------- Keith D. Schlottman, CPA Modular Mining Systems, Inc. e-mail: corporate web site: ------------------------------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 18 17:15:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA11420 for ; Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:15:59 -0500 (CDT) From: BiffCraine@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:14:29 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Connection to Lowrance Globalmap 100 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I am having trouble either with the cable connections or the settings on the GPS. Can anyone give me a hand? Biff K4LAW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 19 09:17:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA19173 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:17:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: rmanak@mail.execpc.com Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:32:23 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Manak Subject: [htaprs] Re: TNC init w/ APRS+SA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_1796263==_" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.1.19990616012555.01cbacf0@mail.execpc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk --=====================_1796263==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Initthd7.tnc file from DOS APRS appears to work fine. 73 bob AA9JW At 02:16 PM 6/18/99 -0700, you wrote: >Has anyone set up a .TNC file for use with APRS+SA and the TH-D7A? If so >can you please e-mail it to >me. > >Tnx de KR7RK > > >------------------------------------------- >Keith D. Schlottman, CPA >Modular Mining Systems, Inc. >e-mail: >corporate web site: >------------------------------------------- > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: RMANAK@EXECPC.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --=====================_1796263==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Initthd7.tnc" * TNC Init file for KENWOOD TH-D7 AWlen 8 BBSMsgs ON B E 0 LOC E 0 Echo off FLow off AUTOLF off MCOM off MON ON MRPt on PACLen 128 HBAUD 1200 * delete following lines if without GPS GBAUD 4800 GPSTEXT $GPRMC LTMH OFF LTM 10 --=====================_1796263==_-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 19 10:19:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA20633 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:19:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:13:14 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Connection to Lowrance Globalmap 100 References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------38AA9B441A6B4F6D1B88D904" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <376BB38A.95687E90@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------38AA9B441A6B4F6D1B88D904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, try this.... http://www.best.com/~wdunckel/gps.htm Walter BiffCraine@aol.com wrote: > > I am having trouble either with the cable connections or the settings on the > GPS. Can anyone give me a hand? > > Biff > K4LAW --------------38AA9B441A6B4F6D1B88D904 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wdunckel.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Walter Dunckel Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wdunckel.vcf" begin:vcard n:; x-mozilla-html:FALSE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 note:http://www.best.com/~wdunckel/electronics.html end:vcard --------------38AA9B441A6B4F6D1B88D904-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 19 10:20:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA20665 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 1999 10:20:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 11:06:44 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: FAQ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <376BB204.C4737EDD@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Daniel L. wrote: >I was wondering if all this great information is recorded somewhere in >a FAQ or a Technical file somewhere? I am not trying to slight the many fellow APRS'ers who have written lots of good web pages on APRS, but the two best sources for APRS infor- mation (with links to many others) are The Northern Illinois APRS Net- works "Questionable Web Page": http://www.dididahdahdidit.com and The Kansas City APRS Working Group's http://kcaprs.org pages. Many of the tidbits that have been collected over the years has been saved there or they will point you in the right direction. Also of note is that many of TAPR's SIGs are archived and can be searched from http://www.tapr.org . 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 02:37:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id CAA25280 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 02:37:34 -0500 (CDT) X-To: Reply-To: From: "Dennis James" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] THD7E Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:36:46 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001bebaef$a69b53a0$44970ccb@dennis> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've just recetly bought the unit and am wondering why the information entered by the computer when in TNC mode is not saved. How can I get the unit to tx my pos as i have it entered in. If anyone has an text file u send to tnc as an example would appreciate it. Dennis VK2DOR Scone Australia QF57KX mailto:denniswj@hunterlink.net.au --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 16:44:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA24757 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 16:44:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:42:55 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7a & Palm Hot-Sync Cable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <376D605F.F0815229@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Okay, I got the Rat Shack "Hands-free extension cable" ... in fact, I got two ... one for the GPS port and another for the PC port of the D7a. I wanna hook up the Palm IIIx to the PC port but I only have the Modem cable right now ... which terminates in a male DB-25. Do I really need that humongous connector or can I use the Palm Hot-Sync cable which uses a DB-9? I will be wiring the mating end (a male DB-9) on the end of the other Rat Shack cable, so pinouts are open to whatever is neces- sary. So, what's necessary? And can someone please confirm that the red wire from the RS cable goes to pin 2, the white wire to pin 3 and the shields to pin 5 of the DB-9 for the Garmin GPS cable? 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 17:17:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA25720 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:17:30 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:16:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] APRS Field Day CALLSIGNS Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If you know the callsign of anyone on the planet, then an APRS QSO is quite possible via the worldiwde APRS network. Without it, its just a stab in the dark. To make things easier for Technology Field Day, I suggest that everyone use the SSID of -7 in the field. Since most of us use -7 for the THD7 anyway, then, this already has a good chance of hitting someone outside in the field. Anyway, thats what mine will be. I see KC5GOI is building a list of FD calls. That is what triggerd this suggestion. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 17:26:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA25913 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:25:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:25:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood HT's via AO-27 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Earlier I had suggested enabling one's 0.3 sec APRS burst on the end of occassional voice transmission via AO-27. THen simple non-tracking, non-doppler downlink sites could capture these ID/POSITS over to live WEB links via the worldiwde APRS infrastructure. Building such an automated ground station is nothing more than an $88 UHF HT in a water proof plastic box at the focal point of a 4 foot chicken wire corner reflector oriented towards your best coverage sector. Just tune the UHF receiver for doppler. North = 436.805, E/W = 436.800, and South = 436.795. Run any length speaker zip cord down to your existing APRS station and connect it to the TNC input. This completes your automated downlink gateway (assuming that someone is operating an APRS Igate in your area.) As with anything, however, human nature and human error suggest that using these ID/POSIT bursts via AO-27 should be used with caution (and rarely on weekends!). Example, on my first transmission, I was appalled by how long the packet was. What should have been 0.3 seconds was in fact over a second! All packets from the THD7 contain your POSITION, COURSE, SPEED, and COMMENT encoded into only 9 bytes. But you can make the packet much longer if you aren't paying attention: W4APR-7>LLLLLL:'OOOCSP$/Bob <= The ideal 0.3 sec burst W4APR-7>LLLLLL,R0MIR:'OOOOCSP$/Bob W4APR-7>LLLLLL,RELAY-0,WIDE-15,WIDE-15:'OOOCSP$/Bob W4APR-7>LLLLLL,RELAY-0,WIDE-15,WIDE-15:'OOOCSP$/Bob using Kenwood in Baltimore The first one is the desired burst. The second one had R0MIR left over from the last MIR pass, and the 3rd still had your terrestrial path left in it. The last one is just verbosity of zero benefit because the LAT/LONG already equals Baltimore and it has to be a Kenwood HT! Again, I'm not suggesting routine use of the burst, but only when needed. P.S. Until we get all of the USA covered (about 9 stations), some of you can add more receivers and other corner reflectors. Just parallel the receive audio to the single TNC. Due to doppler and antenna gain, only one receiver will have an open squelch at a time. In other words, three reeivers covering three 120 degree sectors would provide hemispherical coverage... for almost half of the USA! de WB4APR, Bob P.S. Due to paralleling the UHF downlink to your existing APRS TNC, there your APRS operations will be effectively lost while AO-27 is in view for about 5 minutes twice a day around noon. ALso, in busy areas, there is a good chance that an AO-27 packet might collide with a local packet and be lost. Fixes are to use a separate TNC or to use a COR relay on the UHF receiver to disable the APRS terrestrial audio during the 5 minute sector pass. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 17:35:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA26169 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:34:57 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7a & Palm Hot-Sync Cable Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:34:03 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/20/99 5:42 PM, Arte Booten (n2zrc@webspan.net) passed this wisdom: >Hi all, > > Okay, I got the Rat Shack "Hands-free extension cable" ... in fact, >I got two ... one for the GPS port and another for the PC port of the >D7a. I wanna hook up the Palm IIIx to the PC port but I only have the >Modem cable right now ... which terminates in a male DB-25. Do I really >need that humongous connector or can I use the Palm Hot-Sync cable which >uses a DB-9? I will be wiring the mating end (a male DB-9) on the end >of the other Rat Shack cable, so pinouts are open to whatever is neces- >sary. So, what's necessary? > > And can someone please confirm that the red wire from the RS cable >goes to pin 2, the white wire to pin 3 and the shields to pin 5 of the It's simple Art ... whatever cobnnections you have to make it work with the modem cable, pins 2 and 3 are reversed with the HotSynch cable. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 17:55:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA26498 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:55:32 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:54:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] FD Calls Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thoughts and suggestions for FD: 1) Remember, the only way to get a CQ via a distant Igate is to send a message to someone (or a permanent digipeater) in a target area. I suggest DIGIs, because they are ALWAYS on the air. My FD site will be on and off as we also do many Satellite passes with the THD7 HT. Also, since LCD's look better out of sun, dont expect much operations until the evening in my opinion.. Therefore we need someone to put together a list like this: CALL TYPE IGATE LOCATION -------- ------- ------- ------------------ WB4APR-7 FD AA3JY-2 Cpk Bay K3ATI-12 TARGET AA3JY-2 N-MD, SE-PA, S-NJ .... For example, sending a message to K3ATI-12 will be seen by everyone in the indicated region above. Others of you that know your area well, should also suggest the BEST target Digi in your area that will hit the most FD sites at one time. ALso, remember that an Igate must be nearby... Do not send a packet to an Igate as a target, because, of course, it will never get to RF! It will see it and ACK it! I saw that KC5GOI is collecting callsigns but I been watching all day, and have recevied no posit from him, so I dont know if here is here on the SIG or just local in NJ? de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 18:37:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA27562 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 18:37:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Darrell Sutton" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] fd digi in se va Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:38:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001d01bebb76$0092ac60$643a0218@cx192844-a.nwptn1.va.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Kf4hjw-9 is the best digi to send a messge to in se va or wa4kxv-1 for the Va beach Norfolk area of va Join The Virginia APRS List serve APRSVA@onelist.com Darrell Sutton KF4HJW Newport News ARES AEC ORS 145.23 442.90 144.39 APRS THD7a -2 KF4HJW-10 Digi in Toano Va.,KF4HJW IGATE Newport News VA 145.73 Packet KF4HJW@ke4dv.#tide.va.usa.noam Packet Net Tues at 8:15 local on KR4MA system in District 7 VA ARES APRS Net Sundays 7:30pm in Tidewater VA. Visit WWW.APRS.NET --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 22:08:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA03191 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:08:10 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:05:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Kenwood HT's via AO-27 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk AO-27 (or PACSAT) Fixed Receive SIte for $88 Alinco HT: * This 4'x 6'chicken wire parabolic corner reflectr * | should provide abt 12 dB gain to a horizontal HT * | at the focal point in a WX-proof plastic tube. * | The focal point (H) is 6" out from the mesh. * |2' * | | Placed on a roof facing horizon NE or NW with * |1' | the HT tuned to 436.805 should give strong *--H-----2'----+ signals from AO-27 during the first 40% of a * |1' | pass. Tilting it back about 10 deg is best. * | | * |2' Run ANY length audio zip cord from the HT | * | to your shack or office. 1'| * | | * | Note, middle of the post is 2' from the mesh. ==============*==================================================== Although this station will only hear 40% of one pass, it will only take Nine or so similar stations across the USA all linked into the APRServe system to capture everything heard on every pass over the USA! Key factors influencing this crazy design are: * $88 Alinco HT's have integral flip-up antennas with no connectors * No coax, or Preamps are required. Cable run can be 100's of feet. * NE and NW directions favor all passes and horiz pol is best then. * All the gain is on the horizon with more than 90 deg of Azimuth * Do not flip this vertically, or the azimuth width will be too narrow. * Northern stations can do the same and point SE or SW and tune to 436.790 low doppler. Note, hold your Kenwood THD7 HT at the focal point and connect its internal TNC directly to your laptop and you can easliy see any of the 9600 baud PACSAT links. (But they are more vertically polarized so this might not work well since its hard to get the HT at the focal point and be vertical.) WARNING. I have not built this yet. If anyone wants to beat me to it, go for it and report. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 22:37:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA03849 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:37:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7a & Palm Hot-Sync Cable Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 20:37:12 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000701bebb97$5955bec0$2c901fd0@gerhardt> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I too bought 2 of the Radio Shack cables (P/N 43-2003), however, I have one major problem. This cable is too flimsy and I am not able to solder it to anything and have it hold. I am trying to make a Garmin GPS cable using one of the Purple plugs. I have given up trying to solder these frail leads to the Purple plug pins directly. I then tried to bring out a #22 wire from the plug and then solder splice it to the RS cable. I have tried this several times, but every time by the time I finish tapping the splice, that frail little wire has broken. I intend to use these units for portable trackers during Search and Rescue operations and need a fairly rugged cable. Has anyone come up with a way of terminating this RS cable to a Garmin type connector? If so, how did you do it? What are the tricks? The TH-D7A is a sweet little radio. I really love it, but those small 2.5 mm plugs are a problem. Has anyone found a source for purchasing some 2.5 mm stereo plugs? Preferably with a cable already made up. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Herb, KB7UVC Mason County, Washington APRS Coordinator NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Arte Booten > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 2:43 PM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7a & Palm Hot-Sync Cable > > > Hi all, > > Okay, I got the Rat Shack "Hands-free extension cable" ... in fact, > I got two ... one for the GPS port and another for the PC port of the > D7a. I wanna hook up the Palm IIIx to the PC port but I only have the > Modem cable right now ... which terminates in a male DB-25. Do I really > need that humongous connector or can I use the Palm Hot-Sync cable which > uses a DB-9? I will be wiring the mating end (a male DB-9) on the end > of the other Rat Shack cable, so pinouts are open to whatever is neces- > sary. So, what's necessary? > > And can someone please confirm that the red wire from the RS cable > goes to pin 2, the white wire to pin 3 and the shields to pin 5 of the > DB-9 for the Garmin GPS cable? 73 > _______________________________________________________________________ > |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| > |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| > |Riverdale, New York [FN30bu] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| > |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| > |______________________________________________________________________| > "The alien ship is moving toward the jumpgate." "How fast?" > "Fast." "Be faster!" - Delenn and Lennnier, Babylon 5 > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: gerhardt@hctc.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 22:56:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA04276 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 22:56:31 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:55:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org, TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day and AO-27 In-Reply-To: <87hfo2uy4d.fsf@mongrel.kd6pag.ampr.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Hey folks, if you're expecting to make your Field Day satellite contact > on AO-27, you can just about forget it... Hey!, Good point, BUT, AO-10 is just about as easy and is up for hours! Field day is unique. Just prop a good size 2m Yagi on the ground against a post and connect your all mode 2m receiver and you can hear it. Connect your ARROW antenna to your UHF all mode rig and you can hit it! Or use an FM rig (with no mike) to send slow CW... Forget AZ/EL rotators, remote control cables, pre-amps, coax switches, polarity switches, long coax, power amps, angle indicators, synchros, and alignment. You dont need ANY of that junk when you have a 6 foot coax and an armstrong rotator! I just decided tonight that that is what I am going to do. I got lots of long yagis on the ground. None of my collection ever gets mounted on the roof... just too much trouble. But FD, is a snap. In fact, for all this week, AO10 is almost straight up overhead. By the weekend it is down to about 20 degs here. But still above the trees at our location. What a joy that its still alive.. de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Jun 20 23:06:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA04648 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:06:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:07:14 -0400 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7a & Palm Hot-Sync Cable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <376DAC62.1D5D861D@ameritech.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Herb.. I found the little 2.5mm stereo plugs at most of the hamfests so far since I bought my D7.. I even found the little barrel plugs for my own external batteries! I found a flat Dell 2500 mA/h that fits in my back pocket for Field Day operation that should last the 24 hours ;-) Sometimes I found that Silver Solder with the small bottle of cleaner preps the little wires nicely. Good luck 73 --------------------------- Are we having fun yet? Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 02:34:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id CAA18044 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:34:39 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 02:34:13 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7a Cable Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >I too bought 2 of the Radio Shack cables (P/N 43-2003), however, I have one >major problem. This cable is too flimsy and I am not able to solder it to >anything and have it hold. > visit the searchable www.tapr.org archive for this sig and search under Mouser or visit the Mouser web site if they have one. I have seen many post on this sig on where to get parts for the D7A. There are several tricks to get a good connection with the **flimsy** type headphone coiled cable. But the Mouser wire is pre-tined. 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 06:32:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id GAA01824 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 06:32:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Wes Johnston" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: FD Calls Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:32:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002801bebbd9$cd8cb2c0$0300a8c0@wes> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk CALL TYPE IGATE LOCATION -------- ------- ------- ------------------ kd4rdb-7 FD kd4rdb-0 Savannah GA Wes - kd4rdb@qsl.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 10:03:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA07043 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:03:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] RE: TH-D7a Cable Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 10:09:20 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk >>I too bought 2 of the Radio Shack cables (P/N 43-2003), however, I have one >>major problem. This cable is too flimsy and I am not able to solder it to >>anything and have it hold. The RS cables will work. You just have to be very gentle with them. The wire is difficult to solder cause it is wrapped with fiber to give it strength. Try to unwind as much fiber as possible. Just keep trying and with a little patience, you'll get it. Now, if you can find better connectors/cable elsewhere go for it. The RS one was convenient though. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 10:10:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA07392 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:10:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] GPS Interference on TH-D7A Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 10:16:20 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906211510.KAA07384@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey all, I was wondering if anyone has ever had the problem described below: In my car I run my TH-D7A and a Garmin GPS-12XL. It has worked swimmingly well. However, on Saturday, N3UYI, who was visiting Chicago, and myself exchanged a couple of APRS messages and then decided to have a voice QSO on a 2M repeater at 147.745 MHZ. Upon turning to the frequency, I had a rather large amount of noise and other crap on frequency. I figured it was due to the part of Chicago I was in and all the 2M intermod around in that area. However, as I got out of the city and continued my conversation with Steve (N3UYI), the noise never went away. Finally after our QSO was over, I could still hear it and it was as strong as ever. Then I noticed that the buzzing seemed connected to the changing display on the GPS-12XL. So as an experiment, I shut the GPS off. ALL noise went away. When I turned the GPS back on, the noise came back. So we definitely have a noise problem around 147.75 MHz with the GPS-12XL. I notice no problem elsewhere in the 2M band and I haven't tried any other radio/ht to see if it is particular to the TH-D7A. Has anyone seen this before? Does the 12XL have a 147.75 MHz clock or something around that? Thanks es 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 11:09:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA09255 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:09:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:09:18 -0600 From: "Larry Bateman" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] SMA connector Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id LAA09255 For those looking for a way to hook an outside antenna to the TH-D7A there are a couple of connectors available from Digi-key. One is a right angle SMA connector, part number J484-ND cost $8.70. The other is a straight SMA connector, part number J481-ND cost 15.83. Both are compatible with RG58/U coaxial cable. Digi-key's catalogue can be downloaded as a PDF file at : http://www.digi-key.com 73....Larry --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 15:05:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA16355 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:05:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA connector Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:05:02 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/21/99 12:09 PM, Larry Bateman (lbateman@preco.com) passed this wisdom: >One is a right angle SMA connector, part number J484-ND cost $8.70. The >other is a straight SMA connector, part number J481-ND cost 15.83. Both >are compatible with RG58/U coaxial cable. Thats hiway robbery, I paid $4.50 for brand new straight SMA-BNC connectors from a regular dealer at a hamfest in February. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "He's mad that trusts in the tameness of a wolf ... or a whore's oath." -- SHAKESPEARE, "King Lear," III, 6 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 15:19:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA17299 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:19:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:19:53 -0600 From: "Larry Bateman" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA connector Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id PAA17299 Brian, You are talking about an adaptor. These are connectors that go on the coax eliminating the big bulky adaptors that stress the jack on the radio. I agree, it is expensive. However, if you break the jack or radio housing it would be even more expensive. So my suggestion to you is: "Save a buck now and spend several times more down the road when you have to repair your radio" 73...Larry >>> Brian B. Riley 06/21/99 02:05PM >>> On 6/21/99 12:09 PM, Larry Bateman (lbateman@preco.com) passed this wisdom: >One is a right angle SMA connector, part number J484-ND cost $8.70. The >other is a straight SMA connector, part number J481-ND cost 15.83. Both >are compatible with RG58/U coaxial cable. Thats hiway robbery, I paid $4.50 for brand new straight SMA-BNC connectors from a regular dealer at a hamfest in February. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "He's mad that trusts in the tameness of a wolf ... or a whore's oath." -- SHAKESPEARE, "King Lear," III, 6 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 15:59:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA19467 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:59:01 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:58:52 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA connector Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk SMA male to male adapter gold $3.00 Hamcom Dallas SAM male to BNC female adapter $3.00 Hamcom Dallas The BNC adapter gives the D7A antenna post the ability to use my old connectors and antennas for the HTX-202. But it stands up higher. A SHORT coax with the SNA on one end and what you need on the other is better. Radio shack does have as a special order the SMA to PL cable I think it is for their alinco units. Fry's parts ------------- Connectors: 46-3101 SMA MALE CRIMP for RG-59 1965212 46-3100 SMA MALE CRIMP RG-58A/141 1965201 1:295 46-3000 SMA MALE SCREW ON RG-58A/141 1961322 1:295 Adapters: 46-3818 SMA FEMALE TO PL-259 FEMALE PART # ?? SMA female to N male PART # ?? SMA female to N Female PART # ?? $3.25 to $3.95 each Caltronics stereo plug for gps and computer : $ 2.00 666pp 647798 2.5mm male phone plug three conductor 1:280 Spend $15 on a cheep headset with mic that has the 2.5 mm plug and save having to build one. 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 16:40:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA20582 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:40:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA connector Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 17:40:10 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 6/21/99 4:19 PM, Larry Bateman (lbateman@preco.com) passed this wisdom: >You are talking about an adaptor. These are connectors that go on the coax >eliminating the big bulky adaptors that stress the jack on the radio. I >agree, it is expensive. However, if you break the jack or radio housing it >would be even more expensive. So my suggestion to you is: > > "Save a buck now and spend several times more down the road when you >have to repair your radio" Its still outrageously expensive. I use the SMA-BNC adapter to a BNC elbow and RG58 to my mobile 2 meter antenna just fine. an SMA connector to RG8X woiuld be better. I am sure the conbnectors can be had for half the price quoted. Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "When you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform." -- Mark Twain --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 19:18:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA24850 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:18:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 19:17:29 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Sma connector Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990621153017.0069d668@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Both of you paid too much. I bought three of them at the recent Hamcom in Arlington, Texas for $2.40 each. Unfortunately, when i got home I promptly lost one of them! 73 Gary KD5DAY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 20:28:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA26404 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:28:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tim Cunningham" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA connector Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:28:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001001bebc4e$7d2fd3f0$4af510d1@cunninghamt.genrad.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The difference between a good SMA-BNC connector and a cheap one is it's ability to maintain the impedance between the transition. Those kind of connectors are not cheap. In many cases, you are paying for quality if you are working with a good RF dealer. Then again, maybe that is why they call this hobby Amateur Radio. 73's, Tim - N8DEU -----Original Message----- From: Brian B. Riley To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 3:05 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA connector >On 6/21/99 12:09 PM, Larry Bateman (lbateman@preco.com) passed this >wisdom: > >>One is a right angle SMA connector, part number J484-ND cost $8.70. The >>other is a straight SMA connector, part number J481-ND cost 15.83. Both >>are compatible with RG58/U coaxial cable. > > Thats hiway robbery, I paid $4.50 for brand new straight SMA-BNC >connectors from a regular dealer at a hamfest in February. > > >Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr > For PGP Keys > > "He's mad that trusts in the tameness of a wolf ... or a whore's oath." > -- SHAKESPEARE, "King Lear," III, 6 > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tim_cunningham@mindspring.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 20:41:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA26737 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:41:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "michael morgan" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Garmin 45XL Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 20:18:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEBC23.36401840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001601bebc4d$208f04a0$5f4cfea9@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEBC23.36401840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trying to set up the D7 and the GPS alone. Wiring and radio settings = appear to be correct but still get 0000 for position. Does anyone have = the interface setting I need for the Garmin 45XL. It's the only think I = can find questionable. I have it set on NMEA 0183 2.0, 4800 baud. But = what is the other setting? The selection is NMEA/NMEA, GRMN/GRMN, and = several others. There are also host setting under GRMN/GRMN. Thanks, = Michael, KA4MDD ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEBC23.36401840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Trying to set up the D7 and the GPS alone.  = Wiring and=20 radio settings appear to be correct but still get 0000 for = position. =20 Does anyone have the interface setting I need for the Garmin 45XL.  = It's=20 the only think I can find questionable.  I have it set on NMEA 0183 = 2.0,=20 4800 baud.  But what is the other setting?  The selection is=20 NMEA/NMEA, GRMN/GRMN, and several others. There are also host = setting=20 under GRMN/GRMN.  Thanks, Michael,=20 KA4MDD
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BEBC23.36401840-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 21 23:00:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA00827 for ; Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 00:01:40 -0400 From: John Vause Reply-To: jdv@iglou.com Organization: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - Charter Member X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS Interference on TH-D7A References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <376F0AA4.7CC7A8C3@iglou.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk It's not just yours. My 12xl put out spurs on 147.220-147.250 147.275-147.290, 147.300-147.320, and 147.330-147.345. I traded it for a 12CX (color model) and the 12cx puts out a spur from 147.305 to 147.325 s9+. 73 to the SIG Jon Ogden wrote: > > Hey all, > > I was wondering if anyone has ever had the problem described below: > > In my car I run my TH-D7A and a Garmin GPS-12XL. It has worked > swimmingly well. However, on Saturday, N3UYI, who was visiting Chicago, > and myself exchanged a couple of APRS messages and then decided to have a > voice QSO on a 2M repeater at 147.745 MHZ. > > Upon turning to the frequency, I had a rather large amount of noise and > other crap on frequency. I figured it was due to the part of Chicago I > was in and all the 2M intermod around in that area. However, as I got > out of the city and continued my conversation with Steve (N3UYI), the > noise never went away. Finally after our QSO was over, I could still > hear it and it was as strong as ever. > > Then I noticed that the buzzing seemed connected to the changing display > on the GPS-12XL. So as an experiment, I shut the GPS off. ALL noise > went away. When I turned the GPS back on, the noise came back. > > So we definitely have a noise problem around 147.75 MHz with the > GPS-12XL. I notice no problem elsewhere in the 2M band and I haven't > tried any other radio/ht to see if it is particular to the TH-D7A. > > Has anyone seen this before? Does the 12XL have a 147.75 MHz clock or > something around that? > > Thanks es 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > -- * John Vause KF4ERV jdv@igloudot.com * NOTE: email address altered for benefit of Spambots -- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 22 05:04:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id FAA24944 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 05:04:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Steve Prior" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] FD Sign up ? Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 06:06:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEBC75.4F94CD20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002f01bebc96$d7e555c0$890c82d0@compaq> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEBC75.4F94CD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Was there a place to sign up for the APRS part of FD - this was not part = of the ARRL but sponsored by TAPR. Any help is appreciated. 73 Steve N3UYI ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEBC75.4F94CD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Was there a place to sign up for the APRS part of FD = - this=20 was not part of the ARRL but sponsored by TAPR.
Any help is appreciated.
73
Steve
N3UYI
------=_NextPart_000_002C_01BEBC75.4F94CD20-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 22 09:15:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA01077 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:15:11 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 9:14:55 Subject: [htaprs] Couple of bucks To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Considering how much we all paid for our HTs and the importance of impedence matching I am a more than a little suprised that the emphasis on connectors was the price not the quality. I like the idea of one connector, a right angle one at that, to reduce stress to the post. Also, because there is only one connector I can subtract the cost of the second connector on the coax that is no longer needed. I don't know why it costs more, maybe the bend. Does it come in gold? :) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 22 10:42:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA03439 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 10:42:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS Interference Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:42:03 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BEBC93.80CBB200@Tony.in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id KAA03439 > Subject: GPS Interference on TH-D7A > From: Jon Ogden > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 10:16:20 -0500 > > I was wondering if anyone has ever had the problem described below: > [snip] > So we definitely have a noise problem around 147.75 MHz with the > GPS-12XL. I notice no problem elsewhere in the 2M band and I haven't > tried any other radio/ht to see if it is particular to the TH-D7A. > > Jon * KE9NA Oh yes. My 12XL puts out noise that is synchronized with the state that the GPS is in (booting up, acquiring lock, updating the display, etc.) on 147.315, but not obviously anywhere else. I'm guessing it's a harmonic from something on the digital side, quite possibly associated with the single largest shielding "hole", the LCD display. This is on a unit with HW/FW rev 3.62 (24 hr battery life version but before the city database rev). Same goes for the GPS 35 of about the same vintage, around 1.5 years old. Neither I nor the 35 owner would have noticed the problem if it wasn't for a repeater on that frequency that we both liked to use. The strength from mine is about S7 on an HT with rubber duck at 3 feet, S5 when the GPS is inside my vehicle and a rooftop gain antenna was used with my mobile. No noticeable noise radiation seems to come out of the Garmin remote amplified antenna or the Garmin power/data cable. If you have a remote GPS antenna you may be able to reduce the interference to negligible levels with suitable shielding around the GPS brick. In the other direction, I've never noticed the GPS having any troubles from 2M operations even at 50W with the respective antennas being just 1 ft apart. 73, Tony Arnerich KD7CEJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 22 11:39:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA05071 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:39:01 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m2270501@mail.9netave.com Message-Id: Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 11:37:41 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Jerry K9GD Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS Interference List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Interesting side note: For the last 8 months or so..my GPS-20 didn't seem to work correctly. Wasn't holding sats..and generally unreliable. So, I used my GPS-III in the auto where the GPS20 was still active. I noticed the GPSIII refused to acquire sats in the vehicle...when in the past it had no problems...this went on for a while until I noticed that when I ran the GPSII outside the vehicle...it would unlock when I neared the vehicle..within 3 feet. To make a long story short, the GPS20 was putting "out" a signal that attenuated the GPSIII when it was near the vehicle. I disconnected the external antenna and the interference disappeared. The GPS20 is currently at Garmin for a check up. Best Regards, Jerry K9GD mailto:jerry@k9gd.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 22 20:13:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA18878 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Couple of bucks Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 20:13:12 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906230112.UAA18854@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Considering how much we all paid for our HTs and >the importance of impedence matching I am a more >than a little suprised that the emphasis on >connectors was the price not the quality. I like >the idea of one connector, a right angle one at >that, to reduce stress to the post. Also, because >there is only one connector I can subtract the >cost of the second connector on the coax that is >no longer needed. I don't know why it costs more, >maybe the bend. SMA connectors vary widely in quality and performance. You'll pay a lot more for an 18 GHz SMA than a 2 GHz SMA. How they are assembled to the coax makes a difference to. Is it a slip on, a solderable center pin and crimp to shield, a solderable center pin and clamp to shield, connector material, etc. >Does it come in gold? :) Uh, yes. Many SMAs are literally gold plated. Others are nickel or even stainless steel. Some are brass. Gold plated are the most expensive while brass are the cheapest. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 22 22:05:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA21714 for ; Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:05:57 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org, aprssig@lists.tapr.org Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 19:48:13 -0700 Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS Interference Message-ID: References: X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,6-7,9-10,12-15,17-49 From: robhanson@juno.com List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990622.195343.3246.1.robhanson@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I hate to start this again, I kept quiet as long as I could. This is EXACTLY why GPS units are not allowed on airlines. The concern is that an electronic device will generate interference with navigation or communication equipment. Since this is my field, I can tell you first hand that it does indeed happen. I have seen a combination of a GPS and an inactive ELT produce a signal to cause interference on a third radio. It is also common for multiple GPS installations to interfere with each other. At altitude, it is of little concern, but please, turn it off for takeoff and landing. 73 ... Rob ... W6RH On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 09:42:03 -0600 tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) writes: >> Subject: GPS Interference on TH-D7A >> From: Jon Ogden >> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 99 10:16:20 -0500 >> >> I was wondering if anyone has ever had the problem described below: >> [snip] >> So we definitely have a noise problem around 147.75 MHz with the=20 >> GPS-12XL. I notice no problem elsewhere in the 2M band and I >haven't=20 >> tried any other radio/ht to see if it is particular to the TH-D7A. >> >> Jon >* KE9NA > >Oh yes. My 12XL puts out noise that is synchronized with the state >that = >the GPS is in (booting up, acquiring lock, updating the display, etc.) >= >on 147.315, but not obviously anywhere else. I'm guessing it's a = >harmonic from something on the digital side, quite possibly associated >= >with the single largest shielding "hole", the LCD display. snip . Neither I nor the 35 owner would have noticed >the problem if it wasn't for a repeater on that frequency that we both >liked to use. > >The strength from mine is about S7 on an HT with rubber duck at 3 >feet, = ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 23 11:38:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA05178 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:38:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] VHF AIP Date: Wed, 23 Jun 99 11:43:41 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199906231637.LAA05170@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey guys, Just in case you didn't know: Turn VHF AIP off unless absolutely necessary. Last night I played with it and saw a difference of 3 bars on the S-meter between when it was on and off. I suspected that the way intermod protection was introduced was by attenuating the signal into the mixer. So it seems. You'll get better 2m sensitivity with AIP off. Of course if you are plagued by IM in your area, turn it on. It's interesting that the manual doesn't mention the loss of sensitivity! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 23 13:01:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA07602 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:01:17 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:00:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] THD7 Satellite Points @ FD! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I sent this to AMSAT. I will copy the result back to the HTAPRS list. But wanted to make sure you took your HT to FD and a copy of your favorite tracking program so you can collect 9 satellites worth of downlink...! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:52:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga To: Robert Bruninga Cc: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field Day HELP! There will be hundreds of NEWBEES trying Satellites at FD this year: 1) Operating a rig at a table and a handheld antenna trivializes the entire station. 2) The Kenwood THD7 HT can receive 9 satellites with nothing but a 3 element UHF beam or rubber duck in front of a piece of chicken wire. We newbees need a definitive list of what satellites are in what modes. I know it is published in a variety of places, but many show many modes. We need a "regular" to give us newbees a definitive LIST for this weekend. Here is what I have gleaned from the literature, but I am unsure of the RS13 and all the new birds modes... KENWOOD SAT UPlink DWNlink MODE RCV XMT ---- ------------- ------------- -------------- --- --- AO10 435.03-435.18 145.81-145.98 SSB AO27 145.85 FM 436.800 FM YES YES! FO20 435.795 SSB 145.90-146.00 SSB FO29 435.795 SSB 145.90-146.00 SSB RS13 ?? ?? ?? ?? RS15 145.86-145.90 29.354-29.394 SSB AO16 2m PACSAT 437.051 9600 FSK YES UO22 2m PACSAT 435.120 9600 FSK YES TO31 2m PACSAT 436.925 9600 FSK YES GO32 2m PACSAT 435.325 9600 FSK TES SO33 2m PACSAT 437.850?? 9600 FSK YES SO35 2m PACSAT 436.300 9600 AFSK ??? YES UO36 2m PACSAT 437.400 9600 FSK YES LO19 2m 1200 baud 437.153 1200 PSK detect carrier IO26 2m 1200 baud ? SO35 2m 1200 baud 436.300 1200 PSK ??? detect carrier MIR 145.985 145.985 AFSK YES YES! Can someone clean up this list and repost. Thanks. bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 24 15:46:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA05620 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:46:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:45:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , aprsnews@tapr.org, htaprs@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Easy Sats for FD (LIST) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Easy Sats: Based on feed back from my first posting, here is the list of what satellites are in what modes for FD. Notice that 9 can be received with just the Kenwood HT and so there will be lots of newbees on this weekend KENWOOD SAT UPlink DWNlink MODE RCV XMT ---- ------------- ------------- -------------- --- --- AO10 435.03-435.18 145.81-145.98 SSB AO27 145.85 FM 436.800 FM YES YES! FO20 145.90-146.00 435.80-435.90 SSB FO29 145.90-146.00 435.80-435.90 SSB RS13 145.96-146.00 29.46-29.50 SSB RS15 145.86-145.90 29.354-29.394 SSB UO11 none 145.825 1200 AFSK Hear it UO22 145.90,975 435.120 9600 FSK YES KO25 145.890 436.500 9600 FSK YES TO31 145.925,975 436.925 9600 FSK YES Images GO32 145.85,89,93 435.225 9600 FSK YES No users SO33 145.915,975 437.910 9600 FSK YES No users SO35 145.825,85,90,95 436.300 9600 AFSK ??? YES No users UO36 437.025/.400 9600 FSK YES No users AO16 145.90,92,94,96 437.051 1200 PSK detect carrier LO19 145.84,86,88,90 437.153 1200 PSK detect carrier SO35 145.825,85,90,95 436.300 1200 PSK ??? detect carrier MIR 145.985 145.985 AFSK YES YES! Note, the table on page 13 of the May/June issue of AMSAT Journal has at least 3 errors. de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 24 19:57:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA12092 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:57:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] spur on 144.39 on D7 ???? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:56:53 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "Bob Bruninga, WB4APR" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I had an interesting experience tis afternoon. I have been real busy here since the flurry of MIR/D7 activity and haven't had much chance to play with my D7. two nites ago when I installed the new KPC-3+ for the KA2BQE-3 APRS digi, I reprogrammed the path to RELAY and then changed it to RELAY,WIDE to tes the new setup with the KPC3 ... anyway just before I shut down I chnaged the path to RELAY,WIDE,WIDE . Today while walkking around the woods (2 and half weeks befor summer school starts, I _am_ enjoying my freedom!) I popped up the D7 and was playing with it a bit, but lo and behold there was soem real seriosu noise on 144.39 that would not let it transmitt. I tried tightening the squelch to no vaila, bu then noticed that the sound/interference went away when I shut down the TNC. I pondered and pondered the events that had transpired between last successful use and now and the only thing that I came up with was the path chnage. So I changed the pat to RELAY,WIDE,WIDE,WIDE and the problem went away ... one of dem thingies dats makes ya go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!! Anyone have an ideas???? Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "I will have the most ethical administration in history." -- Bill Clinton, Nov. 1992 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Jun 24 20:13:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA12547 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:13:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Dave VanHorn" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: spur on 144.39 on D7 ???? Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:11:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00d601bebea7$ae7d0f80$0200a8c0@xemu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > So I changed the pat to RELAY,WIDE,WIDE,WIDE and the > problem went away ... one of dem thingies dats makes ya go > hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!! > > Anyone have an ideas???? You can change the radiation of a micro by changing the data it's operating on. It must be rescanning that data very often, or the length of the data causes some other routine to change it's rate of operation.. It's a bit wierd all right. > "I will have the most ethical administration in history." > -- Bill Clinton, Nov. 1992 Indeed, maybe he meant scientology ethics? (If you're upstat anything goes) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Jun 25 12:25:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA22247 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 1999 12:25:35 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:24:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] THD7 vai MIR Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just in time for FD, MIR Packet system is broke somehow since yesterday.. I heard it last 3 passes today, and the packet system is KEYING the PTT, but there is no packet tones. Bummer... Hope they figure it out by tomorr\ow! bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 26 09:08:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA07344 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:08:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:07:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR's on SSTV (now) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just heard a pass at 1000 EDT and MIR was on SSTV, not packet. So instead of your THD7, be ready with your VCH1, or laptop running W95SSTV. Listen on 145.985. Since they go to bed about 1400 EDT, there is a chance that the mode may change after that, I have no clue... Good luck in the contest. bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 26 14:15:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA13498 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:14:37 Subject: [htaprs] th-d7 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "r bratberg" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Sirs: If you have a second, I have questions about the th-d7. As to APRS message, how do you delete stored messages? Occasionally, I can't transmit the message list. Any suggestions? There appears to be a "5 minute" timer that limits transmit of messages. How is this accessed/disabled? Thanks for any help!! 73 Bob KE6TIV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Jun 26 14:15:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA13520 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:15:18 -0500 (CDT) From: RB95403@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:13:01 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Message delete To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <93269d3f.24a6803d@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Sirs: If you have a second, I have questions about the th-d7. As to APRS message, how do you delete stored messages? Occasionally, I can't transmit the message list. Any suggestions? There appears to be a "5 minute" timer that limits transmit of messages. How is this accessed/disabled? Thanks for any help!! 73 Bob KE6TIV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 28 07:05:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA09310 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 07:05:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:06:00 -0400 From: Tom Rutter Organization: @Home Network Member X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] MIR during Field Day Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37776528.BFC984F4@home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On the Sunday morning pass of MIR, 0356 EDT. MIR was operation in voice mode. I was able to make contact using my Kenwood D7A and the ARROW antenna. I am still hoping to get an APRS hit on MIR. On the pass at 1145 EDT it was operating on Slow scan TV. Tom KF4HJX kf4hjx@home.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Jun 28 09:32:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA12348 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 1999 09:32:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 10:31:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Gapfiller WIDE Digis Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Its time to think of better tweaks to our growing network. I am asking Kantronics to consider the following. If you can think of improvements let us know: (At start of FD, I noticed a multiplication of dupes as some people installed temporary WIDE digipeaters to link to their FD site). PROBLEM: Often people will put up temp or permanent digis to fill in a small gap, or let them operate HT in a shadowed area. This is fine if they only use the alias of RELAY. But as a RELAY, then they work fine for outgoing packets, but do nothing for incoming ones. THus, there is a temptation to make them a WIDE. This causes MANY,MANY dupes for traffic passing through the area. SOLUTION: SOlution is to add a command called something like "FILL-DIGI" to the digipeater TNC. If FILL-DIGI is set to ON, then this digi will ONLY digipeat a packet if it is the FIRST or the LAST digipeater in a string. This way the digi works as intended, bringing traffic into and out of a hidden area, while not adding duplicate DUPES to long haul traffic passing through. Its not a perfect solution, but it shouuld help. Where it doesnt help is when say someone is just using the default of WIDE5-5 for example but the user in the valley is only 3 hops away. Then the packet will arrive at the FILL-DIGI as WIDE5-2 and NOT be digipeated, because it is not last. But hey, we cant fix everything. Think about it... bob, WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Jun 29 00:18:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA14880 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:18:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 01:18:19 -0400 From: Dewey Bryant X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] "FILL-DIGI" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3778571B.C9DC2D64@bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob, Great Idea! During recent bike ride with APRS from D7 + V7's, set up a coupla digi's to fill but encountered the same problem without your idea. Hope it will be in upcoming version........db / kd4ehc --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 13:01:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA05067 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:01:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:00:21 -0500 From: Terry Kealey MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] QST Review of TH-D7A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <377A5B35.81350170@ieee.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In looking for a product review today on the ARRL site, I noticed that the QST product review for August is the TH-D7A. It is on the members only web site at: http://www.arrl.org/members-only/prodrev/pdf/pr9908.pdf Terry, ke0ly --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 14:07:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA06789 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:07:13 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:05:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Gapfiller WIDE Digis (Rev-1) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Improvement! Hiroto, JJ1LYU suggested an improvement to the idea: He suggests that in FILL-DIGI mode, that the digi do the following: 1) Digi all packets if it is the first digipeater 2) Digi all other qualified packets ONCE after striping off all remaining hops in the digipeater string. Thus, these "fill-digis" will get packets out of a shadow and back in, but will not add long distance QRM to packets passing through! Now to get the TNC Mfrs to add it to their code.. de WB4APR, Bob --------------------------------------------------------------------- Copy of original proposal: PROBLEM: Often people will put up temp or permanent digis to fill in a small gap, or let them operate HT in a shadowed area. This is fine if they only use the alias of RELAY. But as a RELAY, then they work fine for outgoing packets, but do nothing for incoming ones. THus, there is a temptation to make them a WIDE. This causes MANY,MANY dupes for traffic passing through the area. SOLUTION: SOlution is to add a command called something like "FILL-DIGI" to the digipeater TNC. If FILL-DIGI is set to ON, then this digi will ONLY digipeat a packet if it is the FIRST or the LAST digipeater in a string. This way the digi works as intended, bringing traffic into and out of a hidden area, while not adding duplicate DUPES to long haul traffic passing through. Its not a perfect solution, but it shouuld help. Where it doesnt help is when say someone is just using the default of WIDE5-5 for example but the user in the valley is only 3 hops away. Then the packet will arrive at the FILL-DIGI as WIDE5-2 and NOT be digipeated, because it is not last. But hey, we cant fix everything. Think about it... Any better ideas? bob, WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BRUNINGA@NADN.NAVY.MIL To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 14:33:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA07522 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:33:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Young, Mark J" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] GPS III Plus Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:31:00 -0700 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I know this is the HT page, but I run mine with a garmin GPS III+ so thought this was appropriate information. See the Garmin home page and there is a new firm release for the GPS III+ (2.02) which has some cool updates. Just an FYI!! 73 de Mark AA7FY P.S. I will be Mobile/Portable in CT and RI the next two weeks (7/1 - 7/13) so... Send me an APRS message!! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 15:18:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA08658 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:18:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tom Schaefer" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood cable and RJ45 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 14:19:36 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0198_01BEC303.94DC3410" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <019b01bec335$df7fcbd0$e101a8c0@altahealth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0198_01BEC303.94DC3410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone tried to crimp the end of the Kenwood cable into an RJ45?=20 Thanks, Tom NY4I ------=_NextPart_000_0198_01BEC303.94DC3410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone tried to crimp the end of = the Kenwood=20 cable into an RJ45?
 
Thanks,
 
Tom NY4I
------=_NextPart_000_0198_01BEC303.94DC3410-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 15:24:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA08746 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:24:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: kd7nm@ricochet.net Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:23:39 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Donnell Subject: [htaprs] Re: Gapfiller WIDE Digis (Rev-1) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990630132339.007cb290@ricochet.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The first place(s) to do some tests on the concept is to have the authors that support KISS in their APRS code to add it as an experimental option. That way a lot of the issues can be tested and a very concise request to the firmware authors can be created - rather than having to go through several iterations of Write -> AlphaTest -> BetaTest -> Release cycles to get it right. I think that suggestion 1 may do harm - that filtering first digipeats only for MYALIAS may make more sense. It might also be a good idea to have Fill-Digi's implement the local recommended default path when they act as the first digipeater, e.g. RELAY,(anything - multiple digi's, etc.) -- becomes -- RELAY*,WIDE,WIDE -- or -- RELAY*,WIDE5-5 (here in the greater Seattle area) -- or -- (digi call)*,WIDEX-X (etc.) <- this example ID's the fill-in digi, for rule purposes. Note that the asterisk implies that the specified digi field is marked as having been digipeated. Callsigns not included to protect the innocent... The idea here is that a fill-in digi in a downtown area can also 'fix up' paths for poorly configured itinerant users. It DOES have problems, like how to handle GATEways and such. Again, it is a concept discussion, and is most easily tested in user reconfigurable software. At 03:05 PM 6/30/99 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote: >Improvement! Hiroto, JJ1LYU suggested an improvement to the idea: > >He suggests that in FILL-DIGI mode, that the digi do the following: > >1) Digi all packets if it is the first digipeater >2) Digi all other qualified packets ONCE after striping off all remaining > hops in the digipeater string. > >Thus, these "fill-digis" will get packets out of a shadow and back in, but >will not add long distance QRM to packets passing through! Now to get the >TNC Mfrs to add it to their code.. 73, Bob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Donnell, KD7NM bob@kd7nm.ampr.org kd7nm@ricochet.net Western Washington Amateur IP Address Coordinator (425) 775-3651 --------------------- http://wetnet.wa.com/~kd7nm --------------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 16:13:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA10246 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:13:57 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:13:33 Subject: [htaprs] Trimble Geo-Explorer To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Roger M. Baty" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Anybody with experience using the Trimble Geo-Explorer with the TH-D7A? I'm thinking of buying the TH. (Already have access to a Geo-Explorer) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 16:32:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA11027 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 16:32:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:28:20 +0200 (CEST) From: "PE1RDW (Andre)" X-Sender: aprs@pe1rdw.ampr.org To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Gapfiller WIDE Digis (Rev-1) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 30 Jun 1999, Robert Donnell wrote: > The first place(s) to do some tests on the concept is to have the authors > that support KISS in their APRS code to add it as an experimental option. > That way a lot of the issues can be tested and a very concise request to > the firmware authors can be created - rather than having to go through > several iterations of Write -> AlphaTest -> BetaTest -> Release cycles to > get it right. > > I think that suggestion 1 may do harm - that filtering first digipeats only > for MYALIAS may make more sense. It might also be a good idea to have > Fill-Digi's implement the local recommended default path when they act as > the first digipeater, e.g. > > RELAY,(anything - multiple digi's, etc.) > -- becomes -- > RELAY*,WIDE,WIDE > -- or -- > RELAY*,WIDE5-5 (here in the greater Seattle area) > -- or -- > (digi call)*,WIDEX-X (etc.) <- this example ID's the fill-in digi, for > rule purposes. > > Note that the asterisk implies that the specified digi field is marked as > having been digipeated. Callsigns not included to protect the innocent... > > The idea here is that a fill-in digi in a downtown area can also 'fix up' > paths for poorly configured itinerant users. It DOES have problems, like > how to handle GATEways and such. Again, it is a concept discussion, and > is most easily tested in user reconfigurable software. > > At 03:05 PM 6/30/99 -0400, Bob Bruninga wrote: > >Improvement! Hiroto, JJ1LYU suggested an improvement to the idea: > > > >He suggests that in FILL-DIGI mode, that the digi do the following: > > > >1) Digi all packets if it is the first digipeater > >2) Digi all other qualified packets ONCE after striping off all remaining > > hops in the digipeater string. > > > >Thus, these "fill-digis" will get packets out of a shadow and back in, but > >will not add long distance QRM to packets passing through! Now to get the > >TNC Mfrs to add it to their code.. > > 73, Bob > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Donnell, KD7NM bob@kd7nm.ampr.org kd7nm@ricochet.net > Western Washington Amateur IP Address Coordinator (425) 775-3651 > --------------------- http://wetnet.wa.com/~kd7nm --------------------- > Correct me if i'm wrong but i believe stealthdigi can already do this its just a mather of adopting the ini file I'm willing to do this if someone wants it 73 de Andre PE1RDW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 17:55:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA12907 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:55:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:53:45 -0700 From: Greg Kulosa To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood cable and RJ45 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Tom Schaefer on Wed, Jun 30, 1999 at 02:19:36PM -0600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990630155345.C513@sharra.exelixis.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Has anyone tried to crimp the end of the Kenwood cable into an RJ45? Nope, I did not do it that way. I took an existing Ethernet cable (all 8 pairs), and cut the RJ-45 end off at about 4 inches. I then soldered the MOUSER cable to the cut RJ-45 tail and then covered the whole thing in lots of heat-shrink layers. It works well and looks neat too. > Thanks, > > Tom NY4I -- Greg A. Kulosa | "The avalanche has already started, it is too Systems Administrator | late for the pebbles to vote." - Ambassador Kosh GNAC, Inc. |___________________________________________________ greg@gnac.com 999 Main Street - Redwood City, CA 94063 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Jun 30 21:51:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA18875 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:51:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Hello? Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:52:35 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199907010251.VAA18869@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello??? Kinda quiet around here ain't it? 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org