From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 04:04:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id EAA19831 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:04:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:54:19 +0100 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Roger Barker Subject: [htaprs] Re: 1750 hz tone burst & aprs in England References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In article , Howard Hecht writes >Hi, > >I understand it's necessary to have 1750 hz tone burst to access >repeaters in England. Can anyone confirm this? All UK repeaters are allocated a CTCSS tone. Being only a very occasional user of repeaters I'm not sure what the situation is regarding whether they have all implemented CTCSS, but a lot certainly have. >Is there aprs activity in England? APRS activity over here is at a fairly low level but growing quite quickly. It tends to be a bit patchy, so how much you hear is going to depend on what area you are in. The 2m APRS frequency is 144.800. -- Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@peaksys.demon.co.uk Boston, UK http://www.peaksys.demon.co.uk --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 09:47:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA27004 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:47:04 -0500 (CDT) Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:45:10 -0400 From: Howard Hecht X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] aprs op in England Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37CD3BF6.155AE6EE@csi.com> Precedence: bulk Gang, >From Roger Barker, G4IDE, I've learned the aprs freq for England is 144.8. Planned to operate the D7A/GPSIII+ combo, but have come up with what appears to exclude my ability to legally operate aprs there. The CEPT agreement reqires the following callsign format: G/WA1LWD/M (M for mobile, or P for portable). Count the characters - 10. D7A limit - 9! Any thoughts? Howard -- Help find the cause of and cure for Pediatric Brain Tumors http://go.to/nerfk If you attended NERFK '99 THANK YOU from the kids for the $61,000.00 for children's cancer research Join our ride 20 Aug 2000 Howard Hecht WA1LWD Milford, CT Co-Task Force Leader New England Ride for Kids --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 11:06:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA29046 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:06:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:05:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Knupke Jr Reply-To: pk@ij.net Subject: [htaprs] Re: aprs op in England To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990901160531.17160.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk How about putting it in the beacon text? I know Ralph, N4NEQ was F/ when the rules changed and maybe he has some input. Sorta like the stations that use tactical in the MYCALL and in the beacon put the BTEXT. === Paul E. Knupke, Jr. pk@ij.net or pknupke@rocketmail.com Largo, FL ---Howard Hecht wrote: > > Gang, > > From Roger Barker, G4IDE, I've learned the aprs freq for England is > 144.8. Planned to operate the D7A/GPSIII+ combo, but have come up with > what appears to exclude my ability to legally operate aprs there. > > The CEPT agreement reqires the following callsign format: G/WA1LWD/M (M > for mobile, or P for portable). Count the characters - 10. D7A limit - > 9! > > Any thoughts? > > Howard > > -- > Help find the cause of and cure for > Pediatric Brain Tumors > http://go.to/nerfk > > If you attended NERFK '99 > THANK YOU from the kids for the > $61,000.00 for children's cancer research > > Join our ride 20 Aug 2000 > > Howard Hecht WA1LWD > Milford, CT > Co-Task Force Leader > New England Ride for Kids > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: PK@IJ.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 11:16:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA29238 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:16:53 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:16:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: aprs op in England In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Howard Hecht wrote: > >From Roger Barker, G4IDE, I've learned the aprs freq for England is > 144.8. Planned to operate the D7A/GPSIII+ combo, but have come up with > what appears to exclude my ability to legally operate aprs there. > > The CEPT agreement reqires the following callsign format: G/WA1LWD/M (M > for mobile, or P for portable). Count the characters - 10. D7A limit - > 9! The AX.25 adressing scheme in ALL TNC's world wide has the same restriction. This is AX.25 addressing, and does not necessarily have to match your legal callsign. TO be legal, just put G/WA1LWD/M in your STATUS text and set the rate to at least once every 10 minutes. de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 11:46:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA00139 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:46:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tom Clarke" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:45:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003701bef499$77584600$7054e58c@clarkeft.nawcad.navy.mil> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well, there is certainly something strange in the power circuit. When my battery runs down, the radio will not respond to the on/off switch! It won;t turn off! Just cycles mindlessly on and off until I put it on external power and turn it off. Charge up the battery and all is well again. Besides, who said it had to make sense!! It's all in fun, right? 73 de Tom/W4OKW -----Original Message----- From: Jon Ogden To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:09 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem >KC2EAW@aol.com wrote: > >>After a bit more testing - it appears that the V7A likes to be fully >>charged before trying to run it from external (car) power. Looks like the >>radio can't get enough power through the connector to run the radio with >>a dead (or close to dead) battery. With a fully charged V7A battery, the >>cigar lighter plug worked fine. Not a hitch, but I only ran it for about >>40 minutes so far. > >I hope you mean "D7A." > >Anyhow, it shouldn't matter what level the battery is at. My battery is >attached to the radio all the time and the radio is attached to the >Kenwood adapter. I have no problems even when I pull the radio out of >the car and use it for a while. > >So I don't know about the problem you see. It doesn't make sense. > >73, > >Jon >KE9NA > > >------------------------------------- >Jon Ogden >KE9NA > >http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! > > >"A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: FCLARKE@EROLS.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 11:54:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA00303 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:54:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tom Clarke" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Questions about new D7A Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:53:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <003c01bef49a$8e5f3e20$7054e58c@clarkeft.nawcad.navy.mil> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Jon's point is a good one. All these gizmos are a balance of compromises. If a radio tried to be everything to everybody it probably would be the size of a refrigerator and cost a megabuck!! I also have become quite fond of my D7A, quirks and all. I really liked an Icom T-8A, but it had horrible rejection of pagers etc. I wound up with a VX-5R. It isn't as "user friendly" with it's arcane button nomenclature, but it handles the intermod a bit better than the Icom (which in itself is strange, as I have always had great luck with Icoms). ymmv, have fun! 73 de Tom/W4OKW -----Original Message----- From: Jon Ogden To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:14 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Questions about new D7A >Craig Bernstein wrote: > >>I recently bought a D7A, and I have a few questions. >> >>First, to be honest, I'm not very happy with it. I think that in addition >>to the problems I mention below, the documentation is terrible and the >>user interface is very poorly designed. > >That's too bad. I first thought the interface sucked as well. However, >once you get used to it, it really works nicely. Now it's not even a >second thought. The only annoying thing is to have to hit two buttons to >adjust the squelch. But then again, I don't adjust it much. >> >>Small inconveniences like APRS reports stepping on the display when you >>are trying to do something and having to either hear a beep for every new >>incoming APRS packet or not hear one at all even if you get an APRS >>message addressed to you really add up to a lot of frustration. > >OK, the beep functionality is far from perfect. However, if you turn the >beep to "KEY" only, it will beep at you when your GPS locks AND when you >get a new message. I am quite sure of that. It will not beep for packet >reports though. > >As for the packets display interfering with the PTT function, we >mentioned this to Kenwood at Dayton. They had no idea of this problem. >I'd expect some of these little things to be fixed in future firmware >releases. > >The D7A is a GREAT radio especially for APRS. Get used to it. Many >people I know HATE the VX-5R as it is too small a radio. I wouldn't >trade my D7 for all the tea in China. > >73, > >Jon >KE9NA > > > >------------------------------------- >Jon Ogden >KE9NA > >http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! > > >"A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: FCLARKE@EROLS.COM >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 12:41:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA01637 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:41:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Andy Fu Reply-To: andyfu@espmail.com Organization: ESP Networks, Inc. To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] [Fwd: aprs op in England] Date: Wed, Sep 1 1999 10:42:42 GMT-0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Hi Howard, I was in Birmingham/England two weeks ago and guess what I found - the D7A will NOT accept my CEPT callsign G/AC6GN. The "stroke" character is not a valid callsign. If someone knows how to enter the stroke character, please let me know. BTW, most voice repeaters in UK now accepts both tone burst and PL tones. Listen for the last character of the station CW ID (after the /) e.g. G3xyz/A. "A" means 67Hz, "B" is the next tone up and so on. I was able to use the US version of D7A to work UK's repeaters. Have fun. -Andy- AC6GN > >From: st_rider@csi.com >Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:45:10 -0700 >To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" >Subject: [htaprs] aprs op in England > >Gang, > >From Roger Barker, G4IDE, I've learned the aprs freq for England is >144.8. Planned to operate the D7A/GPSIII+ combo, but have come up with >what appears to exclude my ability to legally operate aprs there. > >The CEPT agreement reqires the following callsign format: G/WA1LWD/M (M >for mobile, or P for portable). Count the characters - 10. D7A limit - >9! > >Any thoughts? > >Howard > >-- >Help find the cause of and cure for >Pediatric Brain Tumors >http://go.to/nerfk > >If you attended NERFK '99 >THANK YOU from the kids for the >$61,000.00 for children's cancer research > >Join our ride 20 Aug 2000 > >Howard Hecht WA1LWD >Milford, CT >Co-Task Force Leader >New England Ride for Kids > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: andyfu@espmail.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 13:22:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA02894 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:22:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-ID: Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:21:10 -0400 From: Howard Hecht X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] re: aprs in England Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37CD6E95.E26C5AD2@csi.com> Precedence: bulk Wow, So many replies. Thanks! The concensus seems to be that my call be in mycall, and the "legal" call be in the status text, set to beacon at least every ten minutes. Works for me. Also, for anyonoe interested, I found loads of info on repeaters in England at http://members.aol.com/rmcweb/rmc.htm Tnx es 73, Howard -- Help find the cause of and cure for Pediatric Brain Tumors http://go.to/nerfk If you attended NERFK '99 THANK YOU from the kids for the $61,000.00 for children's cancer research Join our ride 20 Aug 2000 Howard Hecht WA1LWD Milford, CT Co-Task Force Leader New England Ride for Kids --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 15:27:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA06441 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:27:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Wed, 1 Sep 99 15:27:37 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Tom Clarke wrote: >Well, there is certainly something strange in the power circuit. When my >battery runs down, the radio will not respond to the on/off switch! It >won;t turn off! Just cycles mindlessly on and off until I put it on >external power and turn it off. Charge up the battery and all is well >again. Besides, who said it had to make sense!! It's all in fun, right? Well, this is true. The radio does not like a low battery voltage situation. I've seen this and the only way to cure it is to remove the battery from the radio. Sometimes if you hold down the power on button and keep it pressed it will eventually shut off. You aren't alone with noticing this! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 17:42:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA10470 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:42:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Kraig" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:42:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net id PAA18306 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <012001bef4cb$3f531320$2c6afea9@jellybeans> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id RAA10470 I have had some problems with my D7A and the connector in the radio for the cigarette adapter. It is mildly intermittent, especially when I am in my bouncy Jeep Wrangler. If your connection is not solid, then the radio will be working off of the radio's battery, even though you think that you are on the car's power supply. Therefore, if the battery on the radio is down, you will suffer the problems associated with a low battery. 73, de kd6fff Kraig http://www.galaxytheatre.com "Love does not consist in gazing at each other but in looking together in the same direction." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Ogden To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 8:08 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > KC2EAW@aol.com wrote: > > >After a bit more testing - it appears that the V7A likes to be fully > >charged before trying to run it from external (car) power. Looks like the > >radio can't get enough power through the connector to run the radio with > >a dead (or close to dead) battery. With a fully charged V7A battery, the > >cigar lighter plug worked fine. Not a hitch, but I only ran it for about > >40 minutes so far. > > I hope you mean "D7A." > > Anyhow, it shouldn't matter what level the battery is at. My battery is > attached to the radio all the time and the radio is attached to the > Kenwood adapter. I have no problems even when I pull the radio out of > the car and use it for a while. > > So I don't know about the problem you see. It doesn't make sense. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > ------------------------------------- > Jon Ogden > KE9NA > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! > > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kd6fff@arrl.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 17:56:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA10837 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Kraig" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:56:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net id PAA12202 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <016c01bef4cd$30072440$2c6afea9@jellybeans> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id RAA10837 This is the most annoying thing about the radio. Once it starts flipping on and off, you better get to it fast or you best be ready to disconnect the battery. While not a huge problem, much like the APRS data taking over the display (and operation of the keypad), it is certainly something that Kenwood should fix in the next upgrade of the firmware. 73, de kd6fff Kraig http://www.galaxytheatre.com "Love does not consist in gazing at each other but in looking together in the same direction." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Clarke To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:45 AM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > Well, there is certainly something strange in the power circuit. When my > battery runs down, the radio will not respond to the on/off switch! It > won;t turn off! Just cycles mindlessly on and off until I put it on > external power and turn it off. Charge up the battery and all is well > again. Besides, who said it had to make sense!! It's all in fun, right? > > 73 de Tom/W4OKW > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Ogden > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:09 PM > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > >KC2EAW@aol.com wrote: > > > >>After a bit more testing - it appears that the V7A likes to be fully > >>charged before trying to run it from external (car) power. Looks like the > >>radio can't get enough power through the connector to run the radio with > >>a dead (or close to dead) battery. With a fully charged V7A battery, the > >>cigar lighter plug worked fine. Not a hitch, but I only ran it for about > >>40 minutes so far. > > > >I hope you mean "D7A." > > > >Anyhow, it shouldn't matter what level the battery is at. My battery is > >attached to the radio all the time and the radio is attached to the > >Kenwood adapter. I have no problems even when I pull the radio out of > >the car and use it for a while. > > > >So I don't know about the problem you see. It doesn't make sense. > > > >73, > > > >Jon > >KE9NA > > > > > >------------------------------------- > >Jon Ogden > >KE9NA > > > >http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! > > > > > >"A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: FCLARKE@EROLS.COM > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kd6fff@arrl.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 1 20:57:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA15435 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:56:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: jwhughes@mail.lig.bellsouth.net Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 21:36:16 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: John Subject: [htaprs] Gainesville to Lakeland Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990901213616.007c2100@mail.lig.bellsouth.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Heading to lakeland early tomorrow from gainesville. Not sure what kind of coverage I'll find along the way but keep an eye out for me. ks4xn-7. If you can, drop me a note and let me know when u saw me and where... 73 de John, ks4xn --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 07:18:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA14326 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:18:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Matthew Sickles" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] APRS SSID Listing Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:13:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <33FF72912CFBD211B9C10000F81B190A97F214@zrtpd00w.us.nortel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I am putting together a local APRS presentation to help our local area get some more active APRS users. While getting all of my material ready on subjects ranging from simple tracker-viewing set-ups using the Internet, to using advanced Digipeating methods, I have run across a snag that is disallowing me from feeling like I understand the entire scope of APRS; SSID numbers. I realize what they are and what the purpose relating to aliasing for Packet is, but I have searched, searched and searched, and cannot find a comprehensive listing of SSID #'s and how they relate to APRS. While traveling across the Southeastern US, I generally see station-9 (car) station-14 (truck) but other than that I see no rhyme or reason to the numbering. Is this something that used to be enforced but is now just a lark? After searching using multiple internet search engines as well as the TAPR archives, I have found only vague references to the usage of SSID and the automatic placement of icons in regards to DOSAPRS. So, if there is a complete listing of SSID #'s 0-15 that I can refer to please let me know. This will help out greatly in my presentation to gain more local APRS users as well as get more exposure for the hobby. Thanks in advance and best regards to all, Matt W2BYV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 07:32:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA14460 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:32:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:31:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS SSID Listing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Matthew Sickles wrote: > that is disallowing me from feeling like I understand the entire scope of > APRS; SSID numbers. In the early days, there was a default assingment of SSID's to some major Icons for stand-alone-trackers (they transmit NMEA so there was no format for ICON type). But then we came up with the GPSxyz format that gave the ICON in the TOCALL of the packet. These defaults are still used in some cases. ALso, we have suggested that users of the THD7 use the -7 just as a quick eye-catcher so that at a glance, one can infer that he cannot easily sennd long messages. ALso, it allows you to guess at someone's THD7 call if you want to send him a message, but have not seen him yet. Yes, also -9 for mobiles sort of gives the same advantages. Finally, I prefer the -1 to -9 over the -10 to -15, simply because it makes the calls shorter by 14% and therefore slightly reduces map clutter. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 07:37:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA14613 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:37:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 7:37:34 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Chris Farmer" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I've seen the same problem while working with the D7As. The external power socket connection is intermittant, and if left alone for a long time it has a tendency to lose it's power connection and go to battery power, then drain the battery while you're not looking. The NOCALL is an interesting problem, I've traced it down to this: When the radio powers up the TNC in either APRS or TNC mode it initializes the TNC. If either the GPS or the PC port receive serial data during the ~1 to 2 sec initialization, the init fails, and the callsign isn't properly entered to the TNC. You just have to leave it alone when it initializes. Because of the problem with the exernal power, we here at KSU built a custom mount with power ported in through the battery contacts. The D7A snapped on just like on a battery pack, and then we powered it through an external NiMH pack. It worked beautifully. It also served as a heatsink, as the radio tended to get a little warm after xmitting almost constantly for 13hrs. Pictures of the mount and more info on the system involved are coming soon. Chris Farmer Kansas State University --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 07:39:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA14650 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:39:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Matthew Sickles" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] RE: APRS SSID Listing Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:38:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <33FF72912CFBD211B9C10000F81B190A97F218@zrtpd00w.us.nortel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ok, so it sounds like that the only recommended or standardized that are being used today--#1 to shorten the length and #2 to keep it simple--are: -1 - anything -2 - anything -3 - anything -4 - anything -5 - anything -6 - anything -7 - Kenwood TH-D7A -8 - anything -9 - mobile So this allows people to understand that APRS messages to -7 stations are limited to 45 characters and other than that there is really no association needed. I just want to make sure I am reading this correctly, please feel free to correct my understanding. Thanks again for all of your help, Matt W2BYV -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 8:32 AM To: Sickles, Matthew [GWRTP:9466:EXCH] Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: Re: [htaprs] APRS SSID Listing On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Matthew Sickles wrote: > that is disallowing me from feeling like I understand the entire scope of > APRS; SSID numbers. In the early days, there was a default assingment of SSID's to some major Icons for stand-alone-trackers (they transmit NMEA so there was no format for ICON type). But then we came up with the GPSxyz format that gave the ICON in the TOCALL of the packet. These defaults are still used in some cases. ALso, we have suggested that users of the THD7 use the -7 just as a quick eye-catcher so that at a glance, one can infer that he cannot easily sennd long messages. ALso, it allows you to guess at someone's THD7 call if you want to send him a message, but have not seen him yet. Yes, also -9 for mobiles sort of gives the same advantages. Finally, I prefer the -1 to -9 over the -10 to -15, simply because it makes the calls shorter by 14% and therefore slightly reduces map clutter. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 08:53:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA16261 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:53:54 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Thu, 2 Sep 99 08:53:41 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Chris Farmer wrote: >I've seen the same problem while working with the D7As. The external >power socket connection is intermittant, and if left alone for a long time >it has a tendency to lose it's power connection and go to battery power, >then drain the battery while you're not looking. This is true with a standard coax type DC connection. The Kenwood plug has a little channel around it that provides for locking. I've never had this problem with my cord. It works fine always. It is never intermittent. > The NOCALL is an interesting problem, I've traced it down to this: When >the radio powers up the TNC in either APRS or TNC mode it initializes the >TNC. If either the GPS or the PC port receive serial data during the ~1 to >2 sec initialization, the init fails, and the callsign isn't properly >entered to the TNC. You just have to leave it alone when it initializes. This isn't correct. I have my GPS running constantly always sending data to the HT. When I turn the HT on and it initializes, I never lose my data. What happens when no call comes up is when you use a power adapter that is NOT the filtered Kenwood adapter. RF gets on the DC line and hoses up the micro-p in the radio. The radio may work fine for quite a while as the original poster noted, however. What is interesting with the phenomenon of the radio's call going to NOCALL is that the TNC in the radio DOES NOT get initialized to NOCALL. It keeps your call as originally entered into the radio. At least this is what happened to me. I suddenly started seeing my own position reports on the D7A. It was all due to using the wrong kind of DC plug. IF YOU GO TO THE KENWOOD ADAPTER YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS! Period. > Because of the problem with the exernal power, we here at KSU built a >custom mount with power ported in through the battery contacts. The D7A >snapped on just like on a battery pack, and then we powered it through an >external NiMH pack. It worked beautifully. It also served as a heatsink, as >the radio tended to get a little warm after xmitting almost constantly for >13hrs. Pictures of the mount and more info on the system involved are >coming soon. That's an interesting and good solution, Chris and it may work, but the radio is designed to be used with Kenwood's adapter. Yes, $36.00 is a lot to pay for it, but it saves one lots of grief and you don't have to build custom mounts, etc. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 10:48:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA19146 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:48:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:47:47 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Chris Farmer" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I would have used the Kenwood adapter, but I couldn't find the cigarette lighter!http://www.sunrayce.com/sunrayce/mobile/june23/mvc756x.jpg This particular aplication is a little specialized. Our mount solved many problems at once: solid mounting point, cable strain relief, heat sink (anyone else ever overheat one of these things?), and power connection. The driver never had to touch the radio, it was set up for data transmission by serial commands from an onboard microprocessor-based system. We could swap battery packs without disturbing the radio itself. As soon as I get one, I'll put up a photo of the system. Like I said, something of a specialized application. Serial data into the PC port will disrupt the internal TNC init of the D7A, I never used the GPS port (but GPS was incorporated) so I can't say for sure. The external power cable I had trouble with (several times) was the Kenwood-supplied AC adapter. We worked with three D7As and had some degree of trouble with all of them. One AC adapter in particular was so intermittant that it was really unusable. I hope the DC adapter you speak of has better luck. Chris Farmer Kansas State University --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 10:55:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA19321 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:55:10 -0500 (CDT) From: KC2EAW@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:54:35 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Annoying "Feature" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <13f5ab10.24fff7bb@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all; Last night in my travels, I saw another mobile station that I know on my Garmin's screen. I happened to be in a parking lot so I figured I'd drop him a brief TH-D7 message. My first attempt at messaging on the D7. However, while trying to input the message the screen would change every time a new packet was received. I live in the New York City - New Jersey area. We get a lot of traffic and with only 40 stations in memory, the D7 is constantly updating with new stations. After 3 attempts to get more than 2 letters input into the message, I gave up. This has got to be the most annoying "feature" I've ever run across. Any hints or tips? Thanks de KC2EAW Dan Speranzo --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 11:02:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA19562 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:02:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:02:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] RE: APRS SSID Listing In-Reply-To: <33FF72912CFBD211B9C10000F81B190A97F218@zrtpd00w.us.nortel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mathew asked to confirm some common SSID's. I have taken his list and added one more for the Internet and Boats. Such a list has been posted before and there are a lot of people that object to such recommendations. But I think they have some merrit. See below: > -1 - ... > -2 - ... > -3 - ... > -4 - ... > -5 - ... > -6 - INTERNET > -7 - Kenwood TH-D7A > -8 - boat > -9 - mobile These are only suggestions, they are NOT REQUIRED. They just give someone a way to make a good guess about how to send you a message. Since you cannot see 90% of all APRS stations (but only your local area), if you want to send a message to someone half the country away, it is nice to be able to make a good guess how to reach him... Notice, these are not meant to cover all th epossible mobiles, but simply the four classes of stations (not home stations). I also am NOT trying to fill up the other 1-5 either. Unles I am overlooking any other major category.. that might help messaging in the blind.. bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 11:15:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA20089 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:15:07 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:14:59 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: Annoying "Feature" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Hi all; >Last night in my travels, I saw another mobile station that I know on my >Garmin's screen. I happened to be in a parking lot so I figured I'd drop >him a brief TH-D7 message. My first attempt at messaging on the D7. >However, while trying to input the message the screen would change every >time a new packet was received. I live in the New York City - New Jersey >area. We get a lot of traffic and with only 40 stations in memory, the D7 >is constantly updating with new stations. After 3 attempts to get more >than 2 letters input into the message, I gave up. > Turn off the bcon- and unscrew the antenna while doing messages :-) or take it out of packet mode - do message and them press TNC 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 11:23:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA20252 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:23:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Hazen, Dwight L" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:22:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64014386B2@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id LAA20252 The radio with a low battery and not being able to turn it off should not come as an supprise to anyone. The off/on switch is only a interrupt line to the micro processor. So when the battery goes low the processor shuts down (sleep mode) then the battery voltage climbs back (up due to no load on it) the process wakes back up. This cycle repeats until the battery is all the way dead. If you catch the low battery in the early stages of cycling on and off you will have a window when the processor can see the switch. Later all the processor has time to do is go dead and then come alive, over and over.... Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Kraig [SMTP:jellybean421@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:56 PM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > This is the most annoying thing about the radio. Once it starts flipping > on > and off, you better get to it fast or you best be ready to disconnect the > battery. While not a huge problem, much like the APRS data taking over > the > display (and operation of the keypad), it is certainly something that > Kenwood should fix in the next upgrade of the firmware. > > 73, de kd6fff > Kraig > http://www.galaxytheatre.com > > "Love does not consist in gazing at each other but in looking together in > the same direction." > Antoine de Saint-Exupéry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Clarke > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:45 AM > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > > Well, there is certainly something strange in the power circuit. When > my > > battery runs down, the radio will not respond to the on/off switch! It > > won;t turn off! Just cycles mindlessly on and off until I put it on > > external power and turn it off. Charge up the battery and all is well > > again. Besides, who said it had to make sense!! It's all in fun, > right? > > > > 73 de Tom/W4OKW > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Ogden > > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:09 PM > > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > > > > >KC2EAW@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >>After a bit more testing - it appears that the V7A likes to be fully > > >>charged before trying to run it from external (car) power. Looks like > the > > >>radio can't get enough power through the connector to run the radio > with > > >>a dead (or close to dead) battery. With a fully charged V7A battery, > the > > >>cigar lighter plug worked fine. Not a hitch, but I only ran it for > about > > >>40 minutes so far. > > > > > >I hope you mean "D7A." > > > > > >Anyhow, it shouldn't matter what level the battery is at. My battery > is > > >attached to the radio all the time and the radio is attached to the > > >Kenwood adapter. I have no problems even when I pull the radio out of > > >the car and use it for a while. > > > > > >So I don't know about the problem you see. It doesn't make sense. > > > > > >73, > > > > > >Jon > > >KE9NA > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------- > > >Jon Ogden > > >KE9NA > > > > > >http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! > > > > > > > > >"A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > > > > > > >--- > > >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: FCLARKE@EROLS.COM > > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kd6fff@arrl.net > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: hazen@indiana.edu > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 12:37:32 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA22300 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:37:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "Hazen, Dwight L" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:36:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC60582228C@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id MAA22300 Certainly does make sense, but it would be nice if the processor was watching out for this condition and did a full shutdown/power-off rather than the mindless cycling. -----Original Message----- From: Hazen, Dwight L [mailto:hazen@indiana.edu] Sent: 2 September 1999 9:23 To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem The radio with a low battery and not being able to turn it off should not come as an supprise to anyone. The off/on switch is only a interrupt line to the micro processor. So when the battery goes low the processor shuts down (sleep mode) then the battery voltage climbs back (up due to no load on it) the process wakes back up. This cycle repeats until the battery is all the way dead. If you catch the low battery in the early stages of cycling on and off you will have a window when the processor can see the switch. Later all the processor has time to do is go dead and then come alive, over and over.... Dwight Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Kraig [SMTP:jellybean421@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:56 PM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > This is the most annoying thing about the radio. Once it starts flipping > on > and off, you better get to it fast or you best be ready to disconnect the > battery. While not a huge problem, much like the APRS data taking over > the > display (and operation of the keypad), it is certainly something that > Kenwood should fix in the next upgrade of the firmware. > > 73, de kd6fff > Kraig > http://www.galaxytheatre.com > > "Love does not consist in gazing at each other but in looking together in > the same direction." > Antoine de Saint-Exupéry > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Clarke > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:45 AM > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > > Well, there is certainly something strange in the power circuit. When > my > > battery runs down, the radio will not respond to the on/off switch! It > > won;t turn off! Just cycles mindlessly on and off until I put it on > > external power and turn it off. Charge up the battery and all is well > > again. Besides, who said it had to make sense!! It's all in fun, > right? > > > > 73 de Tom/W4OKW > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Ogden > > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:09 PM > > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > > > > >KC2EAW@aol.com wrote: > > > > > >>After a bit more testing - it appears that the V7A likes to be fully > > >>charged before trying to run it from external (car) power. Looks like > the > > >>radio can't get enough power through the connector to run the radio > with > > >>a dead (or close to dead) battery. With a fully charged V7A battery, > the > > >>cigar lighter plug worked fine. Not a hitch, but I only ran it for > about > > >>40 minutes so far. > > > > > >I hope you mean "D7A." > > > > > >Anyhow, it shouldn't matter what level the battery is at. My battery > is > > >attached to the radio all the time and the radio is attached to the > > >Kenwood adapter. I have no problems even when I pull the radio out of > > >the car and use it for a while. > > > > > >So I don't know about the problem you see. It doesn't make sense. > > > > > >73, > > > > > >Jon > > >KE9NA > > > > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 12:48:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA22467 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:47:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: APRS SSID Listing Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:47:55 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000201bef56b$4981c620$9ea819d0@gerhardt> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In our Northwest APRS Group we use: No SSID - Your Home Station or other fixed station > -1 - Your TNC Mail Box if you have it activated > -2 - ... > -3 - ... > -4 - ... > -5 - ... > -6 - INTERNET > -7 - Kenwood TH-D7A with runner icon > -8 - boat > -9 - mobile -10 - Wide Area Digi -11 - Wide Area Digi Mail Box if activated. Great for Digi Status Messages. -14 - Mobile Other SSID as you desire. Some individuals have several mobiles, several Mic-E's and several Digi's, therefore they need to use the other SSID's for the duplications. Note that these are suggested SSID usage's, they are not a requirement! It just gives others on the network and idea of what the station is all about. Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 12:51:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA22568 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:51:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [192.193.195.22] From: "Steve Steinberg" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] APRS in France (was Re: 1750 hz tone burst & aprs in England) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:50:31 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990902175031.11445.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk What about France? I'm taking a couple of small HTs for me and the XYL, but is it worth bringing the D7A for APRS? I'll be driving through the south and will have my G-III anyway. 73, Steve kg2bd ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 13:13:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA23215 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:13:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:12:25 -0500 (CDT) From: John Christopher Blessing X-Sender: jcb9786@unix2.cc.ksu.edu To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I am also one of the K-State people who works with Chris. I just wanted to add one thing to this statement. We literally tried using a cigarette lighter adapter of mine that is designed for use with The TH-D7a as well as some other Kenwood radios. It is made by Kenwood. It had the same type of problems with intermittant connections (with all 3 of the radios). The lip did not seem to make any difference. It is not that the cable pulls out, but rather there just does not seem to be a firm enough connection in the design of the jack/plug combination. John Blessing, KSU Solar Car Organization On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Chris Farmer wrote: .... > The external power cable I had trouble with (several times) was the > Kenwood-supplied AC adapter. We worked with three D7As and had some degree > of trouble with all of them. One AC adapter in particular was so > intermittant that it was really unusable. I hope the DC adapter you speak > of has better luck. > > Chris Farmer > Kansas State University --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 17:52:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA01446 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:52:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:22:35 CDT." Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:51:23 -0700 From: John Sullivan List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199909022251.PAA29087@marvin> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk What is surprising is that the D7 designers did not include some type of battery management in the radio. The VX-5R monitors its battery and can also display the battery voltage, but Li-ion batteries can't take the abuse that NiCds do. Supporting 9.6V and 6V battery packs makes the job more difficult. By the time the 9.6V pack is down to 5V, its dropping so fast that the panicked CPU doesn't have time to even respond to the power switch, which has to be active for at least one second before the processor responds. Removing the battery pack or plugging in the external power is the only thing that has ever worked for me. On the recurring external power filtering question, I don't think the problems are caused by RF getting into the D7 power jack, but rather into the power supply, where it causes loss of regulation. This can be a problem with any radio, but the usual symptom is just a buzz on the transmit audio. I've been using an old Kenwood cable with the D7 which is just 24AWG zip cord and a pair of fuses. I connect it to a 12V gel-cell battery through a pair of leads with alligator clips and have never had a problem, neither at home nor in a car. OK, the plug on the nine-year-old cable is worn, and the radio sometimes beeps and resets if I bump the plug while punching the keys. 73 de WD6BTP, John > The radio with a low battery and not being able to turn it off should not > come as an supprise to anyone. The off/on switch is only a interrupt line to > the micro processor. So when the battery goes low the processor shuts down > (sleep mode) then the battery voltage climbs back (up due to no load on it) > the process wakes back up. This cycle repeats until the battery is all the > way dead. If you catch the low battery in the early stages of cycling on and > off you will have a window when the processor can see the switch. Later all > the processor has time to do is go dead and then come alive, over and > over.... > > > Dwight > > > > > Dwight L. Hazen, Indiana University, UITS > Bloomington, In. 47408-7378 812-855-5367 hazen@indiana.edu > http://php.ucs.indiana.edu/~hazen/ Ham Radio wb9tlh@arrl.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kraig [SMTP:jellybean421@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 5:56 PM > > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > > This is the most annoying thing about the radio. Once it starts flipping > > on > > and off, you better get to it fast or you best be ready to disconnect the > > battery. While not a huge problem, much like the APRS data taking over > > the > > display (and operation of the keypad), it is certainly something that > > Kenwood should fix in the next upgrade of the firmware. > > > > 73, de kd6fff > > Kraig > > http://www.galaxytheatre.com > > > > "Love does not consist in gazing at each other but in looking together in > > the same direction." > > Antoine de Saint-Exupéry > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Tom Clarke > > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 9:45 AM > > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > > > > > Well, there is certainly something strange in the power circuit. When > > my > > > battery runs down, the radio will not respond to the on/off switch! It > > > won;t turn off! Just cycles mindlessly on and off until I put it on > > > external power and turn it off. Charge up the battery and all is well > > > again. Besides, who said it had to make sense!! It's all in fun, > > right? > > > > > > 73 de Tom/W4OKW > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jon Ogden > > > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > > > Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 11:09 PM > > > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem > > > > > > > > > >KC2EAW@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > >>After a bit more testing - it appears that the V7A likes to be fully > > > >>charged before trying to run it from external (car) power. Looks like > > the > > > >>radio can't get enough power through the connector to run the radio > > with > > > >>a dead (or close to dead) battery. With a fully charged V7A battery, > > the > > > >>cigar lighter plug worked fine. Not a hitch, but I only ran it for > > about > > > >>40 minutes so far. > > > > > > > >I hope you mean "D7A." > > > > > > > >Anyhow, it shouldn't matter what level the battery is at. My battery > > is > > > >attached to the radio all the time and the radio is attached to the > > > >Kenwood adapter. I have no problems even when I pull the radio out of > > > >the car and use it for a while. > > > > > > > >So I don't know about the problem you see. It doesn't make sense. > > > > > > > >73, > > > > > > > >Jon > > > >KE9NA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 18:57:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA03194 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:57:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:55:08 -0400 From: Estelle & Richard X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37CF0E5C.20541599@netinc.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk  leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 22:14:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA08708 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:14:07 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Annoying "Feature" Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:13:49 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk KC2EAW@aol.com wrote: >However, while trying to input the message the screen would change every >time a new packet was received. I live in the New York City - New Jersey >area. We get a lot of traffic and with only 40 stations in memory, the D7 >is constantly updating with new stations. After 3 attempts to get more >than 2 letters input into the message, I gave up. I thought (at least on mine) that if you are entering a message, the display doesn't get interrupted. I'll have to check it and see, but I think that is the case. If you are listing messages, yes, it does. If you are in the message menu, I think it does. But once you've begun to input a message, I could swear it doesn't interrupt it. Anyhow, if it does just hit a key a couple times. Turn the squelch up or turn the TNC off before entering the message. Also, if you want to limit the number of stations, turn your position limit on. That way the TNC will ignore packets from stations outside your position radius. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 22:16:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA09850 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:16:50 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:16:38 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Chris Farmer wrote: > Serial data into the PC port will disrupt the internal TNC init of the >D7A, I never used the GPS port (but GPS was incorporated) so I can't say >for sure. This I don't know about. But if the TNC is in APRS mode, there should be no need to be sending serial data to it while the TNC is intializing. The HT works fine with NMEA data coming in the GPS port while you turn it on. No problems. I do it EVERY day. Never lost my settings. > > The external power cable I had trouble with (several times) was the >Kenwood-supplied AC adapter. We worked with three D7As and had some degree >of trouble with all of them. One AC adapter in particular was so >intermittant that it was really unusable. I hope the DC adapter you speak >of has better luck. Odd. Mine fits really snug and has a nice 'click' occur when you plug it in. Never had any intermittency problems. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 22:18:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA09947 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:18:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:17:44 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "Hazen, Dwight L" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Braaten, Ed wrote: >Certainly does make sense, but it would be nice if the processor was >watching out for this condition and did a full shutdown/power-off rather >than the mindless cycling. Just pull the battery off. It's an imperfect world! Also, most of the time, that's what people do anyone when one battery dies. They swap to another one. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 2 22:21:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA10009 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:21:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:20:16 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk John Sullivan wrote: >On the recurring external power filtering question, I don't think the >problems are caused by RF getting into the D7 power jack, but rather >into the power supply, where it causes loss of regulation. Power supply where? In my car? It's the battery so the regulation is pretty darn good! No, RF getting on the power supply line to the radio will mess with the micro-processor in the radio. It doesn't like it. Period. Kenwood should have put the filtering INSIDE the radio, but oh well. You can only fit 5 pounds of rocks in a 5 pound bag so something has to give. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 00:48:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA20745 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:48:41 -0500 (CDT) From: jstevens@hns.com X-Lotus-FromDomain: HNSW To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:47:34 -0700 Subject: [htaprs] SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <882567E1.001FD719.00@sdmta1.hns.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk What is the procedure for sending a short EMAIL message from a TH-D7 to an Internet ISP via www.aprs.net? What is entered in the PACKET PATH when an EMAIL is sent? What is entered in the MSG INPUT field? Is this where the EMAIL address is entered? Thanks for the help . . . John Stevens K9AZZ jstevens@hns.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 07:48:06 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA09436 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:48:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:47:48 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A and Garmin GPS3+ To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I just got back from my Ft. Lauderdale to Orlando TH-D7A shakedown trip. I need to know why anything else would be necessary. The combination does everything a tracker and mini-pc would want to do. Why would I need a hand-held Palm 3+? I was considering buying one but now I don't feel it is necessary. The screen is bigger but is that all it would buy me? I don't think the keyboard interface is better and the maps in the GPS are pretty good so I don't think that would enhance the system. Somebody please give me a good reason to buy one, thanks. I love new toys but don't think that it would do much except add to the complexity of a really nice double package - TH-D7A and GPS3+. 73, John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 08:54:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA11361 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:53:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:53:53 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A and Garmin GPS3+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990903085255.0069b4fc@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I don't know about the Palm 3+, but I do now that if you want to run APRS+ then you will need a laptop of some flavor! I have used my laptop to run APRS+ tied to the D7 and I love it. It make for a very compact package. After running APRS+ with an external TNC and a laptop and a ht and a gps, this is ham radio heaven. 73 Gary At 08:47 AM 9/3/99 -0400, you wrote: >I just got back from my Ft. Lauderdale to Orlando TH-D7A shakedown trip. >I need to know why anything else would be necessary. The combination >does everything a tracker and mini-pc would want to do. > >Why would I need a hand-held Palm 3+? I was considering buying one but >now I don't feel it is necessary. The screen is bigger but is that all >it would buy me? I don't think the keyboard interface is better and the >maps in the GPS are pretty good so I don't think that would enhance the >system. Somebody please give me a good reason to buy one, thanks. I >love new toys but don't think that it would do much except add to the >complexity of a really nice double package - TH-D7A and GPS3+. 73, > > >John W. Wilson, KN4HX >z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: railfan@flash.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 09:08:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA11789 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:08:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:55:03 -0400 From: John Blowsky X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] St Pete Beach Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37CFD337.E3875D4C@worldnet.att.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi All To those that are on this list that live in St. Petersburg FL, just want to say what a beautiful place to live. I hope you take the time now and again to stop and look around. In other words "smell the roses". My family and I just got back from a vacation spent on St. Pete Beach. Now for the APRS stuff. Congratulations on having a very good and well run APRS network down there. I knew this before I left home so I was prepared with all my APRS equipment. My hotel room was located on the 2nd floor and from there with 2.5 watts a telescoping whip ant was not able to get out. But from the 7th floor I had of course no problem. Only able to use thd7 from 7th floor. I sent 3 APRS emails and they all reached there destination. One interesting thing was the thd7 locked up. I can only attribute it to the fact that I was receiving a lot of stations from that height. I was running on the aa pack and the batteries were new when this happened. Guess it was like the problem the Hams were having at Dayton. Too many stations for the thd-7 to handle. I had a full APRS tracker with me also. THD7,Garmin 45 and a 1/4 mag mount. But I did not run APRS mobile at all. You see the Garmin is old and with a family of non Hams I could not take the time (half hour/ gps rollover) for the Garmin to Lock. All and all a very nice place for a vacation and APRS use. -- Let us hope we never witness the "Silence Of The Hams" 73 DE John KB2SCS AmprNet: kb2scs@kb2scs.ampr.org [44.68.17.128] Mail To: kb2scs@kb2scs.ampr.org [44.68.17.128] E-Mail: kb2scs@arrl.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 09:24:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA12136 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:24:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 99 09:23:51 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk jstevens@hns.com wrote: >What is entered in the PACKET PATH when an EMAIL is sent? What is entered >in the >MSG INPUT field? Is this >where the EMAIL address is entered? The TO: field (where you'd normally put a call) is entered as EMAIL In the message field put the address of the person you are e-mailing to (ie: jstevens@hns.com or whomever) followed by a space and then your message. Once you transmit, the iGates should pick up the packet and it will be routed to WU2Z's server. The server will then format the e-mail and send it out. The server will attempt to send an ACK back to you. If you get an ACK back you know your e-mail got delivered. If you don't get an ACK it may or may not have been delivered. The system does not work 100% of the time. Have fun! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 18:13:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA26758 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:13:14 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Pix of Earth during Solar Eclipse from MIR Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:11:55 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The guys on MIR apparently captured a shot of the moon's shadow passing across the earth's surface during the solar eclipse a few days back. This is an incredible photo that was the "Astronomy Picture of the Day" a few days back. ... enjoy! Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path, and leave a trail" - Ralph Waldo Emerson --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 19:33:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA28657 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 19:33:00 -0500 (CDT) Date: 4 Sep 1999 00:29:21 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: plain-letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=zboundary=z8D109541E41EC387" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <8D109541E41EC387> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk --=zboundary=z8D109541E41EC387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-ID: <8D109541E41EC387.part.1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Certainly does make sense, but it would be nice if the >processor was = watching out for this condition and did a full >shutdown/power-off rather = than the mindless cycling. It would be nice if a lithium coin cell backup battery had been = incorporated to keep the TNC from hiccuping or losing settings when power = fluctuates, etc. I wonder how hard it would be to retrofit something like = that? --=zboundary=z8D109541E41EC387 Content-Type: application/X-Magic-Cap-Extras Content-ID: <8D109541E41EC387.part.2> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 AFNBTFRDT08AAACYQAAAAAAEmbQAAAAAIAAAAAAAAAIMU3lzdGVtUHVibGljBlN5c3RlbQAAAAEA AAAAAAADJwAAAAEMU3lzdGVtUHVibGljBlN5c3RlbQACjfQAAAAAAAAKSQAAAABWAAAAAATErAAE xLQABMS8AATEzAAExMQABMTUAARpdAAAAABgAAAAgAABGwAAACQAAAAAAATEtAAExLwABMTMAATE xAAExNQAAZsAAAD2AAAAAACAAAGtAAAAAIgAAa0AAAAkDQAAAQAEaXQAAAATAAAAAAANvogAAAAA AAHgAAAAkAAQAEAggAAAFAAAAACAAAAUAAAAAIgAABQAAAAEDgAAAKAAAg4AAAAwAAPv5AAARQD/ /9cAAAAAAAAAAABQCBIAAALINP//////AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAsOsAAAAAAAAAAA= --=zboundary=z8D109541E41EC387-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 3 21:04:06 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA00720 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:04:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: 4 Sep 1999 02:02:12 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Magic-Cap-Form: plain-letter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=zboundary=z8D65306BB048E8E6" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <8D65306BB048E8E6> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk --=zboundary=z8D65306BB048E8E6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-ID: <8D65306BB048E8E6.part.1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Content-Type: application/X-Magic-Cap-Extras >Content-ID: = <8D109541E41EC387.part.2> > >Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:Untitled (????/----) (00031538) >what is the untitled file that came with your e-mail ?? Very long explanation sent privately to Mr. Winingham, in order not to = clog the SIG. Available to anyone else interested, just send me private = e-mail. --=zboundary=z8D65306BB048E8E6 Content-Type: application/X-Magic-Cap-Extras Content-ID: <8D65306BB048E8E6.part.2> Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 AFNBTFRDT08AAACYQAAAAAAE3qQAAAAAIAAAAAAAAAIMU3lzdGVtUHVibGljBlN5c3RlbQAAAAEA AAAAAAADJwAAAAEMU3lzdGVtUHVibGljBlN5c3RlbQACjfQAAAAAAAAKSQAAAABWAAAAAASyDAAE shQABLIcAASyLAAEsiQABLI0AARGbAAAAABgAAAAgAABGwAAACQAAAAAAASyFAAEshwABLIsAASy JAAEsjQAAZsAAAD2AAAAAACAAAGtAAAAAIgAAa0AAAAkDQAAAQAERmwAAAAVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB AAQZXAAAAAEAAAABgAAAFAAAAACAAAAUAAAAAIgAABQAAAAEDgAAAKAAAg4AAAAwAAPvJAAARQD/ /9cAAAAAAAAAAABQCBIAAALINP//////AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAsOsAAAAAAAAAAA= --=zboundary=z8D65306BB048E8E6-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 4 11:46:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA05306 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:46:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:44:07 -0400 From: "George S. Pappayliou" X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] GPS Kit from Electro-Mavin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D14C57.2A15C618@worldnet.att.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I just bought the $20 AISIN gps from electro-mavin. Does anyone know if the data stream that it puts out (after the TTL to RS232 conversion) can be recognized and used by APRS? If not is there some way to convert it using, e.g. a PIC-E? This would seem to be a great (and cheap) way to feed a TH-D7 if I can get the D7 to recognize the data stream. Thanks, George W3GP --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 4 11:53:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA05489 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:53:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "David Robertson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:51:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <007b01bef70e$e2d58740$2f8e28d8@pavilion> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have a question about the IGATES. I have sent email from my TH-D7A several times and most of them have gone through. I'm here in mid-Michigan and the IGATE that the messages get transmitted through is in New Jersey. Here is the path information: Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ APRS path = KC8JZX-7>APK001,K1DE-5,KB8GVQ-13* I am wondering if there is a list of IGATES and where they are? Sure seems like a long way to travel from Michigan to get to one. Dave Robertson KC8JZX ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Ogden To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 7:23 AM Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 > jstevens@hns.com wrote: > > >What is entered in the PACKET PATH when an EMAIL is sent? What is entered > >in the > >MSG INPUT field? Is this > >where the EMAIL address is entered? > > The TO: field (where you'd normally put a call) is entered as EMAIL > > In the message field put the address of the person you are e-mailing to > (ie: jstevens@hns.com or whomever) followed by a space and then your > message. > > Once you transmit, the iGates should pick up the packet and it will be > routed to WU2Z's server. The server will then format the e-mail and send > it out. The server will attempt to send an ACK back to you. If you get > an ACK back you know your e-mail got delivered. If you don't get an ACK > it may or may not have been delivered. The system does not work 100% of > the time. > > Have fun! > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kc8jzx@arrl.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 4 11:56:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA05562 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:56:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:55:43 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] RE: APRS SSID Listing To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Down here in So Fla we have standardized on -3 for digi's. There are a few exceptions but mostly holds true. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Matthew Sickles wrote: > Ok, so it sounds like that the only recommended or standardized that are > being used today--#1 to shorten the length and #2 to keep it simple--are: > > -1 - anything > -2 - anything > -3 - anything > -4 - anything > -5 - anything > -6 - anything > -7 - Kenwood TH-D7A > -8 - anything > -9 - mobile > > So this allows people to understand that APRS messages to -7 stations are > limited to 45 characters and other than that there is really no association > needed. > > I just want to make sure I am reading this correctly, please feel free to > correct my understanding. > > Thanks again for all of your help, > > Matt > W2BYV > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 1999 8:32 AM > To: Sickles, Matthew [GWRTP:9466:EXCH] > Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: Re: [htaprs] APRS SSID Listing > > > On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Matthew Sickles wrote: > > > that is disallowing me from feeling like I understand the entire scope of > > APRS; SSID numbers. > > In the early days, there was a default assingment of SSID's to some major > Icons for stand-alone-trackers (they transmit NMEA so there was no format > for ICON type). But then we came up with the GPSxyz format that gave the > ICON in the TOCALL of the packet. These defaults are still used in some > cases. > > ALso, we have suggested that users of the THD7 use the -7 just as a quick > eye-catcher so that at a glance, one can infer that he cannot easily sennd > long messages. ALso, it allows you to guess at someone's THD7 call if you > want to send him a message, but have not seen him yet. > > Yes, also -9 for mobiles sort of gives the same advantages. > > Finally, I prefer the -1 to -9 over the -10 to -15, simply because it > makes the calls shorter by 14% and therefore slightly reduces map clutter. > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 4 12:01:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA05734 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:01:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 13:00:50 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: Mobile Power Supply Problem To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If the only difference in the Kenwood adapter is the RF choke then purchase a ferrite bead, split or not, and wrap three or four turns of the DC cable through it. That will stop the reset problem, if that is what it is. Save yourself a bunch of money. It is worth a try. 73, John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > > IF YOU GO TO THE KENWOOD ADAPTER YOU WILL HAVE NO PROBLEMS! Period. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 4 12:47:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA06898 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:47:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:50:25 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A and Garmin GPS3+ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D14DD1.465EEF09@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, John W. wrote: >Why would I need a hand-held Palm 3+ [with a D7a & GPS-III+]? Give me >a good reason to buy one. Forty stations. That's the limit on how many stations the D7a will hold in memory. The GPS-III+ will allow more (up to 500, the maximum number of waypoints), but these only include a station's position. The POSIT, STATUS, WX, etc. texts will only be available for the forty sta- tions in the D7a. Agreed, 500 posits is probably more than most people will get via RF, but I'd like to be prepared for future enhancements to APRS-dom. I have to admit that pocketAPRS does not yet have the vast utility and functionality that a full-blown "numbered" APRSDos version does ... yet. There are some functions that that program has that will probably never become available on the Palm due to restrictions within the Palm OS, but Mike has done an excellent job so far. He's intimated to me that there are features on his to-do list that are either on the back burner, or are on slow simmer while he hammers out more pressing needs to the program (although he was not specific, and I haven't asked) he wants solved before release of 1.00. On the other hand, I also have to admit that sending a short reply to a message is easier to do one-handed-while-driving via the D7a than with the Palm, although it still requires (to my mind) spending too much time looking at the device (D7a or IIIx) while driving than I prefer. But at least it *can* be done one-handed with the HT alone. I have an idea that might make this easier on the Palm, but won't discuss it since Mike is so busy now with getting 1.00 out the door. 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bv] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| A new bumper sticker in New York State reads, "Run Hillary, Run!" Democrats put it on the rear bumper. Republicans put it on the front. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 4 14:08:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA09000 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:08:46 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:08:16 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A and Garmin GPS3+ To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good point, Arte. I think, though, that for me the limit of 40 stations is acceptable considering the extra wires and things involved over just the GPS 3+ and the TH-D7A. I may consider the Palm in the future. Right now, if I need, I can always take my laptop. With that, and the tracker, I don't need the second serial port. I can run any version of APRS and have the large screen and full keyboard. If I need, that is. The GPS/TH-D7 setup is so nice and uncomplicated and very full of features. As you see, I am impressed and very pleased. I do have that quirky DC connector problem. If I have to send it back to have that fixed then I will. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Arte Booten wrote: > >Why would I need a hand-held Palm 3+ [with a D7a & GPS-III+]? Give me > >a good reason to buy one. > > Forty stations. That's the limit on how many stations the D7a will > hold in memory. The GPS-III+ will allow more (up to 500, the maximum > number of waypoints), but these only include a station's position. The --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 4 19:09:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA18138 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:08:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:32:31 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A and Garmin GPS3+ References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D19DFF.8B8C3B93@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, John W. wrote: >... the limit of 40 stations is acceptable considering the extra wires >and things involved over just the GPS 3+ and the TH-D7A. There's just one extra wire that runs from the D7a's PC port to the Palm's Modem cable (*not* the HotSync cable). I happen to use the Ken- wood data cable, a DB-25<>DB-9 adapter and the Modem cable. If I felt like doing surgery on those rather expensive pieces of wire I could make it a bit neater-looking but a normal ham's frugality prevents me from hacking them up! 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bv] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| A new bumper sticker in New York State reads, "Run Hillary, Run!" Democrats put it on the rear bumper. Republicans put it on the front. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 01:43:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id BAA05178 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 01:43:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Improvements to EMAIL gateway - reaching pagers with the D7... Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:41:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC605B452A6@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've been able to use the D7 as a very handy tool to send short text messages to pagers that accept text pages via internet e-mail gateways (by using the "EMAIL" packet address). This is BTW a great attention grabber for non-hams. :-) One drawback to pages received this way is the lengthy formatting that the IGATE/EMAIL gateway adds to each message. This info is great for an e-mail recipient, but not so good for message-size-sensitive pagers. Would it make sense to maybe expand on the "EMAIL" concept and add a "PAGER" alias that handles the messages differently? I'm thinking the messages sent via this alias could be passed to the internet e-mail server with just the message text and a bare-bones " DE MYCALL-7" tacked onto the end. Another enhancement for the PAGER alias could be to develop a shorthand method for addressing so that more of the limited D7 message body can be used for the actual message. One idea would be to standardize on an addressing scheme like "PagerType/PIN". The gateway implementor(s) could then publish a translation table like the following for common pagers: PagerType Translates to 001 PIN@skytel.com 002 PIN@pagenet.net 003 =PIN@page.metrocall.com 004 PIN@arrl.net For example, you could enter "003/1234567" to send a page to a Metrocall pager user with the pin number "1234567". Note the "004" PagerType in the table above. It's not really a pager - I tossed that in to show how we could reach other HAMS through their callsign@arrl.net e-mail forwarding addresses - i.e. to send to k6ekb@arrl.net you could use "004/k6ekb" for a savings of 5 characters over the current method of addressing. We could eliminate the slash in this proposed addressing scheme to save another character... Just some ideas... food for thought for a long Labor Day Weekend! 73, Ed ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 10:17:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA22986 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:17:28 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:16:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Improvements to EMAIL gateway - reaching pagers with the D7... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 4 Sep 1999, Braaten, Ed wrote about using the D7 as a very handy tool to send short text messages to pagers: > One drawback to pages received this way is the lengthy formatting... > Would it make sense to ... add a "PAGER" alias that handles the messages > [with less verbosity..] Another enhancement... would be to develop a > shorthand method for addressing... > > PagerType Translates to > 001 PIN@skytel.com > 002 PIN@pagenet.net > 003 =PIN@page.metrocall.com > 004 PIN@arrl.net Good thinking! Dont forget @amsat.org. THis was my original proposal about Email, and that was to assign special characters as such indicators. Such as using EMAIL-XX where XX was one of the above categories of common email addresses. Thus sending a message to EMAIL-4 would then send it to the callsign@arrl.net. for example... The current method is universal, but I too think it is time to take advantage of some common shortcuts... for brevity... bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 10:36:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA23322 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:36:56 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 11:34:01 -0400 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Keith Sproul Subject: [htaprs] Re: Improvements to EMAIL gateway - reaching pagers with the D7... Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ED Very good comment... We will add the PAGER address so that it doesn't add all the stuff.. I too have used it for sending to pagers, but I hadn't really sseen this problem.. The format would be identical, except that you send it to PAGER instead of EMAIL. The only difference would be on the SERVER side, it would do it slightly different.. I think we can have this done soon after DCC (end of septermber) so expect in Ocboter. Keith >I've been able to use the D7 as a very handy tool to send short text >messages to pagers that accept text pages via internet e-mail gateways (by >using the "EMAIL" packet address). This is BTW a great attention grabber >for non-hams. :-) > >One drawback to pages received this way is the lengthy formatting that the >IGATE/EMAIL gateway adds to each message. This info is great for an e-mail >recipient, but not so good for message-size-sensitive pagers. > >Would it make sense to maybe expand on the "EMAIL" concept and add a "PAGER" >alias that handles the messages differently? I'm thinking the messages sent >via this alias could be passed to the internet e-mail server with just the >message text and a bare-bones " DE MYCALL-7" tacked onto the end. > >Another enhancement for the PAGER alias could be to develop a shorthand >method for addressing so that more of the limited D7 message body can be >used for the actual message. One idea would be to standardize on an >addressing scheme like "PagerType/PIN". The gateway implementor(s) could >then publish a translation table like the following for common pagers: > > PagerType Translates to > 001 PIN@skytel.com > 002 PIN@pagenet.net > 003 =PIN@page.metrocall.com > 004 PIN@arrl.net > > >For example, you could enter "003/1234567" to send a page to a Metrocall >pager user with the pin number "1234567". > >Note the "004" PagerType in the table above. It's not really a pager - I >tossed that in to show how we could reach other HAMS through their >callsign@arrl.net e-mail forwarding addresses - i.e. to send to >k6ekb@arrl.net you could use "004/k6ekb" for a savings of 5 characters over >the current method of addressing. We could eliminate the slash in this >proposed addressing scheme to save another character... > >Just some ideas... food for thought for a long Labor Day Weekend! > >73, Ed > > >----- >Ed Braaten, K6EKB >mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net >http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ > > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: ksproul@vger.rutgers.edu >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org Keith Sproul 732 445-3695 Office Student Housing Network Coordinator 732 445-2968 Fax mailto:ksproul@rci.rutgers.edu 732 821-4828 Home http://dorm.rutgers.edu/~ksproul/ WU2Z --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 13:18:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA28281 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:18:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: rparry@jittlov.qualcomm.com Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 11:16:44 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Richard Parry Subject: [htaprs] Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990905111305.00ce0900@jittlov.qualcomm.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. Does the unit work at these temperatures? Does the plastic get "sun bleached"? thanks, --------------- Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test --------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 13:41:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA28721 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:41:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: rbost@itexas.net (Roy Bost) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 13:41:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000d01bef7ce$3fea5cc0$96f430d1@brmptrue> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Yes the sun will get to it!!! I have to keep a cap over my Garmin 45 which sits on the dash. If it gets too hot, the display fades away to nothing!!! It has survived 100+ degrees (outdoor temp) here in Texas! Roy Bost N5TAM rbost@itexas.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 17:41:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA05130 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 17:40:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 17:29:55 -0500 From: Claude Head III Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Message-id: Organization: Southwestern Bell Internet Services MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D2EEE3.B1C420D9@swbell.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have a Garmin GPS-48 which I leave on all the time in the car. It is mounted on a little bracket near the passenger side of the dash board. I have a Trimble external antenna for it which is mounted on a black painted juice can lid at the forward edge of the dash. I live in Dallas, TX where the temperature has been over 100 degrees F nearly every day for the past two months. Temperature inside the car routinely reaches 145+ degrees during the day. The antenna and GPS unit have worked just fine through all this abuse, except that the LCD display on the GPS-48 tends to fade out at the higher temperatures. After the AC in the car has run a while, the display returns. I don't know specifically about the GPS3+, but your probably will not have any trouble with it working, but the display may fade until it cools off again. I've not noticed any color change in the GPS-48 case. 73, Claude K5DTN Richard Parry wrote: > I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on > the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on > the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. > > Does the unit work at these temperatures? > Does the plastic get "sun bleached"? > > thanks, > > --------------- > Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test > --------------- > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k5dtn@swbell.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 19:36:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA08205 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:36:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:35:32 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk One of the big problems with LCD displays is the high temperature black-out. I wouldn't run an LCD device in a closed car in South Florida on a black dashboard, but I would run it on the same dash with the windows open or the air conditioning on. It still gets pretty hot but doesn't seem to affect the GPS3+. It may be best to stick it in your pocket when you leave the car. The Velcro mount works well, by the way. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Richard Parry wrote: > I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on > the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on > the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. > > Does the unit work at these temperatures? > Does the plastic get "sun bleached"? > > thanks, > > > --------------- > Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test > --------------- > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 19:47:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA08369 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:47:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 19:47:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <008a01bef801$599efd00$a66f6f6f@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Claude: I got some insulation material at the hardware store. It is like bubble wrap used for shipping but it has an aluminum foil like surface coating on both sides. It comes off a roll and you buy it by the foot. I guess it is intended to wrap water heaters and such. You can custom cut the material for your car windows. It takes an extra minute to put them up once you have parked, but they are worth a measured 20 degrees F decrease in interior temp. Cut them a little larger than the windows and then the aluminum foil can be used to wedge fit the pieces. Harry, KAØTTY ----- Original Message ----- From: Claude Head III To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 5:29 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? I have a Garmin GPS-48 which I leave on all the time in the car. It is mounted on a little bracket near the passenger side of the dash board. I have a Trimble external antenna for it which is mounted on a black painted juice can lid at the forward edge of the dash. I live in Dallas, TX where the temperature has been over 100 degrees F nearly every day for the past two months. Temperature inside the car routinely reaches 145+ degrees during the day. The antenna and GPS unit have worked just fine through all this abuse, except that the LCD display on the GPS-48 tends to fade out at the higher temperatures. After the AC in the car has run a while, the display returns. I don't know specifically about the GPS3+, but your probably will not have any trouble with it working, but the display may fade until it cools off again. I've not noticed any color change in the GPS-48 case. 73, Claude K5DTN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 20:29:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA09293 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 20:29:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [208.144.175.57] From: "Randy Perkins" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A using HMC-2 VOX Headset? Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 18:29:30 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990906012930.2433.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello group, I'm a new TH-D7A owner and everything seems to be working fine. Was wondering if anyone has used the Kenwood VOX headset type HMC-2 with the D7? See in the manual they show the HMC-3 model but already have the HMC-2 so was wondering if it would work. Don't wont to blow up something plugging in the wrong headset. Any comments? Thanks, Randy, WB5KCM wb5kcm@arrl.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 21:15:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA10429 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 21:15:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-ID: Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 21:20:38 -0500 From: Tom Busch MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D324F6.87A64FEE@kiva.net> Precedence: bulk Don't do it! It will cook! At least my Magellan trailblazer did. The screen bowed out, and now the display is kind of hard to read. Still works otherwise, (receive, NMEA) Use a remote antenna if you want to permanently mount it in the car, and put the gps down on the dash or on the tunnel. TomB Richard Parry wrote: > I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on > the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on > the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. > > Does the unit work at these temperatures? > Does the plastic get "sun bleached"? > > thanks, > > --------------- > Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test > --------------- > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tomb@kiva.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 22:49:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA12830 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 22:49:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: rparry@jittlov.qualcomm.com Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 20:48:55 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Richard Parry Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? In-Reply-To: <37D324F6.87A64FEE@kiva.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990905204603.00ce1100@jittlov.qualcomm.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have received about 4-5 responses so far, all except yours indicated it was OK to put the GPS unit on the dash. One guy in central Texas where it gets very hot said he had no real problems. I mention this not to disagree with you, merely to tell you what others have said thus far. thanks for your input, At 09:20 PM 9/5/99 -0500, Tom Busch wrote: >Don't do it! It will cook! > >At least my Magellan trailblazer did. The screen bowed out, and now the >display is kind of hard to read. Still works otherwise, (receive, NMEA) > >Use a remote antenna if you want to permanently mount it in the car, and >put the gps down on the dash or on the tunnel. > >TomB > >Richard Parry wrote: > > > I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on > > the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on > > the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. > > > > Does the unit work at these temperatures? > > Does the plastic get "sun bleached"? > > > > thanks, > > > > --------------- > > Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test > > --------------- > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tomb@kiva.net > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --------------- Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test --------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 23:28:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA14393 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:28:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 00:28:07 -0400 From: Jon Anhold To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? Message-ID: Reply-To: jon@snoopy.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: ; from John W Wilson on Sun, Sep 05, 1999 at 08:35:32PM -0400 X-No-Archive: yes X-Clue: procmail+cluehack autofilters non-cluefull mail. X-PGP-Fingerprint: C4 C5 CE 7B 2A F6 2F 61 A1 23 6C 73 3A BC 5B 13 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990906002807.E27579@snoopy.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I found that I had to go with Radio Shack "superlock". In the hot sun, the adhesive on the dashboard, or on the back of the unit, would liquify and the unit would literally slide off the dashboard over time in my parked car. -j Previously, John W Wilson (z004391b@bc.seflin.org) said: > One of the big problems with LCD displays is the high temperature > black-out. I wouldn't run an LCD device in a closed car in South Florida > on a black dashboard, but I would run it on the same dash with the > windows open or the air conditioning on. It still gets pretty hot but > doesn't seem to affect the GPS3+. It may be best to stick it in your > pocket when you leave the car. The Velcro mount works well, by the way. > > > John W. Wilson, KN4HX > z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us > > > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Richard Parry wrote: > > > I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on > > the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on > > the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. > > > > Does the unit work at these temperatures? > > Does the plastic get "sun bleached"? > > > > thanks, > > > > > > --------------- > > Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test > > --------------- > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jon@snoopy.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- >From now on, I will try not to reason with the idiots I encounter. I will dismiss them by waving my paw and saying 'Bah' - Dogbert --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 5 23:36:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA16596 for ; Sun, 5 Sep 1999 23:36:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 00:35:43 -0400 x-sender: sdimse@earthlink.net From: Steve Dimse K4HG To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199909060436.VAA07382@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on > the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on > the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. > One thing to try...I have had great luck with my GPS-III mounted on the steering column, sitting in front of the speedometer. Yes, it is well aware from the airbag, so no flames. This will keep the unit well out of the sun, and it is much easier to see. I get great lock on the satellites in both my E-250 (near vertical windshield) and RX-7 convertible (near horizontal windshield ;-) This is not guaranteed to work in every vehicle, but try it, you might me surprised...I sure was. Steve K4HG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 6 02:43:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id CAA26619 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 02:43:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 02:45:28 -0500 From: Thomas Nowicki X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] SMA to PL259 adaptor? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D37118.FFE3AB7A@qtm.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I was at AES this weekend, and was looking for an SMA to PL259 connector to hook the D7a to an external antenna. The guy at the counter said that Radio Shack sells these adaptors. Has anyone seen these at Radio Shack?? Tom - KF9JW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 6 15:13:55 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA23592 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:13:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 03:11:06 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 adaptor? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990906031000.006b03a0@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk No. I went to Radio Shack and they had never heard of a SMA connector, much less an adapter. As a matter of fact, they sales person insisted what I needed was an F connector. You would be better off getting one from Mouser or Allied or Pasternak or anybody who sells that kind of stuff. http://www.mouser.com/ http://www.allied-avent.com/ (I think) The only thing about Allied is they require a $25.00 minimum. Hope this helps! 73 Gary At 02:45 AM 09/06/1999 -0500, you wrote: >I was at AES this weekend, and was looking for an SMA to PL259 connector >to hook the D7a to an external antenna. The guy at the counter said that >Radio Shack sells these adaptors. Has anyone seen these at Radio Shack?? > >Tom - KF9JW > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: railfan@flash.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 6 15:44:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA24434 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:44:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 16:45:06 -0400 From: John Reply-To: johnk.mchugh@worldnet.att.net X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 adaptor? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D427D2.3581C0F3@worldnet.att.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk GPersons wrote: > > No. I went to Radio Shack and they had never heard of a SMA connector, much > less an adapter. DONT get an adapter, get a small pig-tail cable with SMA on one end and PL or SO-238 on other end. The adapter could put a lot of strain on the radio and break the antenna connector. I got mine for $2 at the Miami Hamboree but there are other sources. 73, John -- John Mc Hugh, KU4GY Coordinator for Amateur Radio National Hurricane Center, W4EHW Miami, Florida Home Page: http://www.fiu.edu/orgs/w4ehw/ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 6 15:50:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA24634 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 15:50:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:49:50 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: Does a GPS unit on a dash get too hot? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is not bad advise. It is not good to take a chance on an expensive piece of equipment such as a GPS, unless you are looking to upgrade anyway. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Tom Busch wrote: > Don't do it! It will cook! > > At least my Magellan trailblazer did. The screen bowed out, and now the > display is kind of hard to read. Still works otherwise, (receive, NMEA) > > Use a remote antenna if you want to permanently mount it in the car, and > put the gps down on the dash or on the tunnel. > > TomB > > Richard Parry wrote: > > > I was thinking of purchasing a Garmin GPS3+ or similar GPS to install on > > the dash of a car. It seems to me that in a closed car with the unit on > > the dash, temperatures can easily exceed 120 degrees. > > > > Does the unit work at these temperatures? > > Does the plastic get "sun bleached"? > > > > thanks, > > > > --------------- > > Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test > > --------------- > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tomb@kiva.net > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 09:26:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA05249 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:26:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Read the manual please! Date: Tue, 7 Sep 99 09:25:54 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199909071425.JAA05225@tapr.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Howdy all, Recently, I have noticed a very large number of new faces here on the list who are using the TH-D7A and who are new to APRS. WELCOME! However, along with that, I see a LOT of questions come up about the operation about the TH-D7A that are clearly covered in the manual. Many times we hams (myself included) don't want to sit and read the manual for our new radio. We just want to operate. Well, the TH-D7A manual really needs reading and will help a lot. It might not help much in one's understanding of APRS and I think there are even some errors in it regarding APRS paths, etc. But as far as operation of the HT goes and how to use it, what mode to be in, etc. it is essential. This isn't meant as a flame or anything like that. It's just a friendly reminder to read first. I'll still be happy to answer any questions that I can even so! 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 09:28:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA05295 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:27:56 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 adaptor? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 99 09:27:29 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk John wrote: >DONT get an adapter, get a small pig-tail cable with SMA on one end and >PL or SO-238 on other end. The adapter could put a lot of strain on the >radio and break the antenna connector. I got mine for $2 at the Miami >Hamboree but there are other sources. Agreed! This is very good advice. I wish Kenwood had not put an SMA on this radio. It isn't needed and SMAs were never designed for the kind of usage that a ham will put on his radio. Such is life though. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 09:34:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA05392 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:34:05 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 99 09:33:32 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk David Robertson wrote: >Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z >Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ >APRS path = KC8JZX-7>APK001,K1DE-5,KB8GVQ-13* > >I am wondering if there is a list of IGATES and where they are? Sure seems >like a long way to travel from Michigan to get to one. The e-mail server that is used to send e-mail messages is WU2Z's server in NJ. WU2Z is one of the APRS authors. You have an i-gate in your local area that picks up your message and sends it out over the internet. WU2Z's server listens for these packets, formats them and sends them out as SMTP e-mail to whomever. It then sends an ACK back to you over the internet and then out to RF from your local i-Gate. You can see i-Gates on the APRS display as a diamond with an I in the middle of them (at least it should be that). There is no need to really know where they are as their operation is completely transparent. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 11:03:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA07791 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:03:00 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 09:01:55 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk All well and good if you have a connection to an I-gate that will pass the messages to RF. The APRS packages I have seen really only include a listing for aprs.net and a couple of others. It would seem that if you wanted to pass what is third party messages from TCP/IP through to a wireless station or mobile, you need to know to connect via TCP/IP directly to the iGate that serves that area. I have been connecting through Steve's South Florida APRSServ and as far as I can tell it will not pass anything back to be transmitted via RF. It would be really helpful to have a list of iGate connections that are more cooperative. (Understanding the need to comply with FCC restrictions an third party messaging, of course.) Clark N7AAC >David Robertson wrote: > > >Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z > >Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ > >APRS path = KC8JZX-7>APK001,K1DE-5,KB8GVQ-13* > > > >I am wondering if there is a list of IGATES and where they are? Sure seems > >like a long way to travel from Michigan to get to one. > >The e-mail server that is used to send e-mail messages is WU2Z's server >in NJ. WU2Z is one of the APRS authors. You have an i-gate in your >local area that picks up your message and sends it out over the internet. > WU2Z's server listens for these packets, formats them and sends them out >as SMTP e-mail to whomever. It then sends an ACK back to you over the >internet and then out to RF from your local i-Gate. > >You can see i-Gates on the APRS display as a diamond with an I in the >middle of them (at least it should be that). There is no need to really >know where they are as their operation is completely transparent. > >73, > >Jon >KE9NA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 12:13:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA09872 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:13:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:13:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000101bef954$41f38500$75a819d0@gerhardt> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Please, lets all remember that APRS like all other facets of HAM Radio is a system that operates do to the generosity and good will of our users. I feel extremely grateful that we have such things as I gates, HF Gates, Digi's and Relays in our area and our system seems to work extremely well. Ours is a well organized area. Not all areas of the country are that well organized and not all areas work the same. So, rather than complain that some particular area does not have a two way fully functioning I-Gate as would be supported by the software writers, we need to look and see what our area needs the most and go ahead and do it. Yes, it will cost you some money but there is a lot of gratification out of knowing how much you have furthered our APRS hobby in your area. Enough preaching. I would like to thank all the individuals who are providing the little individual pieces that make up our APRS network. These include the Digi Owners, the I and HF Gate Owners, the schools and EOC's on the network and let me not forget all the individual home stations that are on the air 24 hrs/day. Yes, all of them make up our APRS network. A special thanks to all of them and to all the programmers who write the software for the various systems and let me not forget to all of the individuals who are supplying Internet Sites that support APRS knowledge exchanges such as this one. They all do it because they want to and I certainly appreciate it because I really enjoy playing the game of APRS. Thanks to all, Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org > -----Original Message----- > All well and good if you have a connection to an I-gate that will > pass the messages to RF. The APRS packages I have seen really only > include a listing for aprs.net and a couple of others. It would seem > that if you wanted to pass what is third party messages from TCP/IP > through to a wireless station or mobile, you need to know to connect > via TCP/IP directly to the iGate that serves that area. I have been > connecting through Steve's South Florida APRSServ and as far as I can > tell it will not pass anything back to be transmitted via RF. > > It would be really helpful to have a list of iGate connections that > are more cooperative. (Understanding the need to comply with FCC > restrictions an third party messaging, of course.) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 13:33:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA12826 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:33:29 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 11:32:38 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I certainly didn't mean to criticize or minimize the efforts of those who have contributed to the development of these APRS technologies. Especially K4HG's. But, I can see how I may have been misunderstood. Just as in voice repeaters, iGates and digis will have nuances of their own and thats how it should be. I only wanted to echo the comments that it would be nice if there was more documentation about the digipeaters and gateways available and the parameters for access. Clark N7AAC > >So, rather than complain that some particular area does not have a two way >fully functioning I-Gate as would be supported by the software writers, we >need to look and see what our area needs the most and go ahead and do it. >Yes, it will cost you some money but there is a lot of gratification out of >knowing how much you have furthered our APRS hobby in your area. > > >Herb, KB7UVC >NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator >www.nwaprs.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 14:15:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA14188 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:15:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Date: Tue, 7 Sep 99 14:14:53 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Clark A. Lowry N7AAC wrote: >All well and good if you have a connection to an I-gate that will >pass the messages to RF. The APRS packages I have seen really only >include a listing for aprs.net and a couple of others. It would seem >that if you wanted to pass what is third party messages from TCP/IP >through to a wireless station or mobile, you need to know to connect >via TCP/IP directly to the iGate that serves that area. I have been >connecting through Steve's South Florida APRSServ and as far as I can >tell it will not pass anything back to be transmitted via RF. People, Why don't some folks listen a while and learn to understand *HOW* the APRS system works instead of using their own paradigm to understand it? I and others have explained the e-mail bit until we are blue in the face and yet people STILL argue about it. Let's try again: 1.) The system is EXPERIMENTAL and infantile. This means that it may not always work and it is relatively NEW. 2.) iGates do NOT need to be known. You do not set a path for them. If someone has a local iGate in your area it will show up on your map. Nearly every major area and most of the minor ones have iGates that can be reached in a couple of hops. An iGate takes WHAT IT HEARS and sends it to the internet. There is VERY LITTLE that an iGate (at this time) sends to RF from the internet. The exception to this is EMAIL acks and a few other things being bantied about. I do believe that an iGate operator can selectively choose what he/she wants to have gated to RF. EMAIL messages are always gated AFAIK. 3.) The APRS servers are not the same as iGates. There are only a few of these "severs" AFAIK. Since everyone hears everyone else on the internet, you don't need to connect to a specific iGate. 4.) Sending e-mail messages TO RF is not allowed at this time. 5.) To send an E-mail from RF to internet: a.) Put EMAIL in the "TO:" field. b.) In the subject field put the recipient's e-maill address followed by a space and then the message to be sent. c.) When the message is sent the local iGate will put the message on the internet where it will be heard by WU2Z's server. WU2Z's server will then format the message and send it to the recipient via SMTP. d.) When "c" is done, WU2Z's server will send an ACK back through the internet where your local iGate will send it back to you. You may not get an ACK from the server. If you got an ACK you know your message was sent. If you did not get an ACK, it may or may NOT have been sent. Again, the system is experimental and in its infancy. Again Internet to RF e-mail isn't allowed right now. 6.) APRS messaging from Internet to RF and vice-versa is different from E-Mail. You MUST be a registered APRS user to use the internet messaging feature. Also you don't "connect" to a specific iGate to send messages to a user in that area. That would defeat the WAN concept of the internet. >It would be really helpful to have a list of iGate connections that >are more cooperative. (Understanding the need to comply with FCC >restrictions an third party messaging, of course.) A third party who is an unlicensed HAM CANNOT and I repeat CANNOT initiate a message to a HAM that will be transmitted on RF. The message has to be originated by a licensed HAM on behalf of the "third party." This is why a.) you must be a registered (and therefore a known ham) user to send messages from the internet and b.) that internet to RF e-mail is not allowed. WIth these two items in mind, the system works as it should. So if you are trying to pass messages, you must use the correct protocols, registration, etc. The safetys are in place exactly for the reason that we need to comply with FCC rules. I think a lot of confusion revolves around the iGates. People think they need to specify them in their path (if you want to know what a packet path is - RTFM) like you would specify a WIDE, GATE or RELAY, etc. But this is not the case. iGates are completely passive. The system works and works just fine. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 16:49:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA19412 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 16:49:08 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1275390605-24040327@wd.org> References: <1275390605-24040327@wd.org> Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 14:49:01 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Messaging from TCP/IP to TH-D7A Cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the explanation Jon. I should have changed the thread subject when I sent my last comments. I really wasn't talking about e-mail, I was referring to APRS messages issued from a registered version of APRSx not being passed from a TCP/IP connection through to an RF station. In repeated tests using both WinAPRS and MacAPRS (both licensed), messages issued through the TCP/IP connection were never acked or received by my TH-D7. However, the reverse works just fine and RF to RF has worked all over the country. Point is, if anywhere in this chain of connections an iGate or APRSServ connection is not allowing the passage of messages from a TCP/IP connection out to an iGated RF station, or has any other restrictions, or if there is something not intuitive needed by the unproto entries, then we should not have to find out through trial and error what is permitted and what isn't. If the iGates essentially set up for restricted operations (ie. the Yuma/Phoenix connection and essentially not "open" then this should be noted somewhere. <<>> Nope, it still didn't work. I sent a test message via WinAPRS via TCP/IP connection with aprs.net to KD7FWN (TH-D7). No ACK, No message, No cigar. Sent ?PING? from KD7FWN (the Kenwood) to N7AAC via iGate/TCP/IP/WinAPR/. Perfect! Instant gratification. > >6.) APRS messaging from Internet to RF and vice-versa is different from >E-Mail. You MUST be a registered APRS user to use the internet messaging >feature. Also you don't "connect" to a specific iGate to send messages >to a user in that area. That would defeat the WAN concept of the >internet. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 17:17:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA20188 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:17:12 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 15:16:46 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 adaptor? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >John wrote: > > >DONT get an adapter, get a small pig-tail cable with SMA on one end and > >PL or SO-238 on other end. The adapter could put a lot of strain on the > >radio and break the antenna connector. I got mine for $2 at the Miami > >Hamboree but there are other sources. > Very good advice! My Icom T-21A had an SMA connector and the working of the adapter eventually broke the antenna feed connection inside the case. Had to send it to the Icom hospital. Not learning my lesson well enough, I got in a hurry and tried to use an adapter on my TH-D7. I thought I was being very careful not to hurt the radio, but the adapter came apart in the middle where the parts are just pressed together. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 17:37:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA20730 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 17:37:10 -0500 (CDT) From: G7GUO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:36:09 EDT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Read the manual please! To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Jono and everone else in this group. I have read and re-read the manual but can not discover how to delete APRS messages in my TH-D7E. That is messages I have prepared to transmit but do not require anymore. I know how to delete station details from the list using the A/B key but the method does not seem to work for messages. Am I being daft or what? 73, Simon G7GUO. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 18:06:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA21702 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:06:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Dave VanHorn" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Read the manual please! Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:04:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <050e01bef985$6238aa80$0200a8c0@xemu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Hi Jono and everone else in this group. I have read and re-read the manual > but can not discover how to delete APRS messages in my TH-D7E. That is > messages I have prepared to transmit but do not require anymore. I know how > to delete station details from the list using the A/B key but the method does > not seem to work for messages. Am I being daft or what? > 73, Simon G7GUO. There's only one way, a total reset. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 19:32:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA23696 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:32:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:31:02 -0500 From: Norman Huber Reply-To: nihuber@ice.net X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 adaptor? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D5AE46.9CF74C27@ice.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The ham that runs our Radio Shack said they do not have them in inventory yet. By the way, I was looking in Mouser's web site and could not find them. If any one has a source of the adapter cable's to either Pl or BNC to SMA cables please post. Thomas Nowicki wrote: > I was at AES this weekend, and was looking for an SMA to PL259 connector > to hook the D7a to an external antenna. The guy at the counter said that > Radio Shack sells these adaptors. Has anyone seen these at Radio Shack?? > > Tom - KF9JW > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: nihuber@ice.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- Norm - N9ZKS Bicyclist, Motorcyclist, Ham , Scouter Year2000 Compliant --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 19:33:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA23766 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 19:33:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 01:41:18 +0100 From: Ian Ashford Reply-To: ian.ashford@dtn.ntl.com Organization: NTL MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Manual DF bearing entry. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37D5B0AE.FB2829B0@dtn.ntl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anybody know how to manualy enter DF bearings on the THD7(e)? I have tried several different DOS strings in the status text area,but nothing works with winAPRS DF mode. I see also that support for Home-Brew DF units has gone for WinAPRS : Agrello do not sell the DF junior anymore. I would have to put all three of my daughters on the streets to be able to afford their new DF unit! Has anybody out there Programmed a PIC to convert Roanoke DF Raw RS232 to Agrello %nnn/q to allow use of WinAPRS with 16 LED DF units? Thanks Ian G8PWE Birmingham (England) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 20:46:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA25945 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 20:46:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Read the manual please! Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:44:16 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 9/7/99 6:36 PM, G7GUO@aol.com (G7GUO@aol.com) passed this wisdom: >Hi Jono and everone else in this group. I have read and re-read the manual >but can not discover how to delete APRS messages in my TH-D7E. That is >messages I have prepared to transmit but do not require anymore. I know how >to delete station details from the list using the A/B key but the method >does >not seem to work for messages. Am I being daft or what? >73, Simon G7GUO. it is really quite simple - YOU CANNOT. The manual just doesn't tell you that you cannoy - well it does sort of bu not telling you that you can! Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." Freidrich Nietzsche --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 21:17:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA26791 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:17:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Messaging from TCP/IP to TH-D7A Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:14:43 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Clark A. Lowry N7AAC wrote: >In repeated tests using both WinAPRS and MacAPRS (both licensed), >messages issued through the TCP/IP connection were never acked or >received by my TH-D7. However, the reverse works just fine and RF to >RF has worked all over the country. What happens when you try to do the same thing but to APRS running on a computer connected to the RF network? Perhaps it is something flukey with the TH-D7A?? Perhaps some iGates aren't set up for reverse messaging. They *should* be. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 21:19:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA26877 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:19:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Read the manual please! Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:19:25 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk G7GUO@aol.com wrote: >Hi Jono and everone else in this group. I have read and re-read the manual >but can not discover how to delete APRS messages in my TH-D7E. That is >messages I have prepared to transmit but do not require anymore. I know how >to delete station details from the list using the A/B key but the method >does >not seem to work for messages. Am I being daft or what? Hi Simon, I could have sworn this was in the manual, but I can't find it right now. You can't delete messages from the message list. They delete automatically when the message memory fills up. Hope this helps. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 21:22:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA26917 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:22:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 adaptor? Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:20:50 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Norman Huber wrote: >By the way, I was looking in Mouser's web site and could not find them. If >any one has a source of the adapter cable's to either Pl or BNC to SMA >cables please post. I doubt Mouser has adapter cables. You may have to make them yourself. 73, Jon KE9NA ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na <--- CHECK IT OUT! It's been updated!!!!! "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 23:09:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA00200 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:09:07 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:07:20 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] You too can be an IGATE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If you are running Win/Mac* APRS on 2M and start an Internet connection then click on TWO PLACES in the APRS TCP/IP settings menu THEN YOU become an IGATE 1. Click on Send local RF data to the internet 2. Click on Allow 3 party messages. Let talk about what else you can do with number 1. IF a balloon is sent up in your area using APRS or NEMA GPS format then tune to what EVER frequency they are using 2M or 70 Cm click 1 from above . You can also set APRS to be receive only so no RF packet data will be sent from your station. The point is any registered APRS station can pipe in data from event of interest and all can watch. *APRS-SA+ may do the same , I don't remember. 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 7 23:11:16 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA00348 for ; Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:11:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "Rich Casey" From: "Rich Casey" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Dash Mounting and an Idea Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:05:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001a01bef9af$5760b060$2081fea9@casey8> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk No problem here in dallas with the GPS-3+ on my Jeep dashboard all summer. By the way, for temporary mounting on almost any surface, stop by Home Depot's glue aisle and buy some DAP Fun-Tak for a couple bucks. It's a putty you can use to stick on the dash or most anything else. Holds the GPS solid until you want to pull it off, then it comes right off! Great stuff, except in hot weather where it tends to get a little gooey. Still, it rolls back up in a minute or two with no damage to the unit or the surface. The GPS-3+ was very handy during a recent trip along the Maine coast. I loaded the Maine coastal counties in from the Garmin CD, and was able to use it during the trip. Even had the lighthouses and buoys marked. Saw no APRS activity once I got out of Boston, but the GPS was really helpful in the rented car (and fun while we were whale watching off Nova Scotia too! I now have a WHALES waypoint....) 73, Rich n5csu Dallas n5csu@amsat.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 8 00:02:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA08854 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:02:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Erich Schulz" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 try SMA TO BNC Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:59:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004f01bef9b7$739923e0$79ff88d1@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk You are not going to find it at Radioshack. I have a sma to bnc which is much less strain. I use a bnc extension Male on one end and Female on the other with a bnc to pl259.. Solves all the strain problems and allows you to use bnc ht rubber duck antennas so I say go with SMA to BNC. It is avaible at eletronic suppliers . Electrotex on Forest Lane just east of Greenvile in Dallas. On the North side of the street. Erich Schulz eschulz@nstar.net N0OOR 972-235-3627 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 8 00:29:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA10102 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:29:20 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 00:26:50 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 try SMA TO BNC Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >You are not going to find it at Radioshack. well you might find something. Someone go to RadioShack and ask for a 12050647 rsu # $15 (RSU are sometimes not in store but they can get) and tell us what it is. The New www.radioshack.com is not up yet after the merging with www.techAm.com (Tech America) ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 8 13:01:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA07123 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 13:01:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [192.193.195.25] From: "Steve Steinberg" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 try SMA TO BNC Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 14:00:12 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990908180012.4039.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone tried the SMA to BNC Female cable from Cablexperts? It's at the bottom of this page: (http://www.cablexperts.com/cfdocs/cat.cfm?ItemGroup=9&itmsub=0&bskt=0&c=0)?? As previously stated, a pigtail would be better than an adapter.\ BTW, AES has the adapter for about $4. Regards, Steve kg2bd >From: "Erich Schulz" >To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" >Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 try SMA TO BNC >Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 23:59:41 -0500 > >You are not going to find it at Radioshack. I have a sma to bnc which is >much less strain. I use a bnc extension Male on one end and Female on the >other with a bnc to pl259.. Solves all the strain problems and allows you >to >use bnc ht rubber duck antennas so I say go with SMA to BNC. It is avaible >at eletronic suppliers . >Electrotex on Forest Lane just east of Greenvile in Dallas. On the North >side of the street. > > Erich Schulz eschulz@nstar.net > N0OOR 972-235-3627 > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 8 17:31:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA15127 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:31:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:31:09 -0400 From: Steve Dimse To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199909082231.SAA02343@netrox.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 9/7/99 1:01 PM Clark A. Lowry N7AAC (N7AAC@aztenx.org) wrote: >I have been >connecting through Steve's South Florida APRSServ and as far as I can >tell it will not pass anything back to be transmitted via RF. > >It would be really helpful to have a list of iGate connections that >are more cooperative. Miami APRServe is fully bidirectional. Please do not call my station uncooperative! > (Understanding the need to comply with FCC >restrictions an third party messaging, of course.) We use the term "third party", but it is not the same as the FCC third party definition: A message from the control operator (first party) of an amateur station to another amateur station control operator (second party) on behalf of another person (third party). Any message that is originated by the first party, is not a third party message... Also, remember the restrictions only apply to messages to some foreign countries. Steve K4HG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 8 18:39:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA16913 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:39:26 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:39:04 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: SENDING EMAIL FROM TH-D7 Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Sorry Steve. A poor choice of words in the heat of the moment. I certainly don't mean to criticize your efforts. My focus right now is in communications between TCP/IP connected fixed stations and RF mobile stations in a "search and rescue" type of environment. The frustrations have, come as a result of not being able to pass APRS messages from a TCP/IP only station through to an RF station. Questions to this and other SIGs have produced answers that suggested that I needed registered versions of APRSx (which I have) or that the messages are being restricted at the iGate or APRServ level. If this incorrect, please direct me to a solution. It may be that this problem is unique to my area and my simplest solution would be to set up my own iGate, but I hesitated to duplicate the three already established in my area without some sort of coordination. I also visualize the burden on the APRS Servers to have to sort and delete the redundancies created if everyone with a home based relay digi decided to also be an iGate. This may not seem like a big problem now, but as this grows we may see that the difficulties faced by the Illinois APRS Server was only a shadow of things to come. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Clark Lowry N7AAC N7AAC@aztenx.org Founding Member: Spook Hill Amateur Radio Club (SHARC) Founding Member: Arizona Desert 10-10 Chapter #06F 10-10 International #68954 10226 E. Iris Rd. 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Lowry N7AAC (N7AAC@aztenx.org) wrote: >Sorry Steve. A poor choice of words in the heat of the moment. I >certainly don't mean to criticize your efforts. > >My focus right now is in communications between TCP/IP connected >fixed stations and RF mobile stations in a "search and rescue" type >of environment. The frustrations have, come as a result of not being >able to pass APRS messages from a TCP/IP only station through to an >RF station. > >Questions to this and other SIGs have produced answers that suggested >that I needed registered versions of APRSx (which I have) or that the >messages are being restricted at the iGate or APRServ level. If this >incorrect, please direct me to a solution. > At least one Igate I see in your area is ruinning WinAPRS. Have you contacted the operators in your area to ensure that they have checked the "enable third party messages" in the setup? APRServe and aprsd have other means of configuring the IGates. There is no filtering that occurs in APRServe. >It may be that this problem is unique to my area and my simplest >solution would be to set up my own iGate, but I hesitated to >duplicate the three already established in my area without some sort >of coordination. I also visualize the burden on the APRS Servers to >have to sort and delete the redundancies created if everyone with a >home based relay digi decided to also be an iGate. This may not seem >like a big problem now, but as this grows we may see that the >difficulties faced by the Illinois APRS Server was only a shadow of >things to come. > The duplicates present no difficulty to the APRServe network, the algorithm to filter them out is very efficient. The ilnorth issue was uniqu. It was hosted by an ISP that was fed only with dual ISDN lines, a very low bandwidth connection. Steve K4HG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 9 11:27:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA27568 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:27:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Alinco $88 HT @ 9600 Baud Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:25:44 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BEFAAD.B01F9AA0@Tony.in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id LAA27568 Bob Bruninga bruninga@nadn.navy.mil wrote some results on some mighty fine tinkering. Included was: >For an external antenna, there is a SIP header on the board with 2 pins >just for this purpose. I soldered a short 3 foot pigtail with a BNC on >the end to this point, just long enough to reach a handheld antenna. For another take on obtaining the antenna connection, see: http://hamradio.mail1.com/alinco/ In the picture titled "Installing new SMA Connector and Ground Wire" you can clearly see the 2-pin SIP that Bob refers to, which contains the RF signal and ground connections. I used that ground point instead of the circuit trace as seen in the photo, when I did my own mod. The SMA gets it's signal connection not from the SIP but from the spring plunger that touches the stock antenna. If you use a nut and washer on both sides of the radio's back panel you can clamp things up nice and tight, and be at least as rugged as any original equipment HT's with SMA connectors. There are many right angle SMA connectors that are almost able to work, but not quite because of the very tight space in the back panel. I don't know if the newly added DigiKey part #J609 will work, but it looks about right once you cut off the solder tab. 73, Tony KD7CEJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 9 21:39:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA14473 for ; Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:39:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Daniel Lavoie" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] How to configure the TH-D7 to receive 9600 bps satellites into Hyperterm? Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:35:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000f01befb0b$38d2be60$1ad0ba89@tecra> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I got my TH-D7 in packet mode connected to HyperTerminal. I'm able to send commands to the D7 such as HB 9600, MONITOR ON, KISS ON but what's the proper configuration to receive the 9600 bps packets from satellites? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 07:46:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA14965 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:46:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "ward carpenter" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using an external power RF amp Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:40:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000101befb8a$21fc6400$08c378a4@stb.advantis.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk HI all, I got my TH-D7 up and running in the car (and portable) working with my Garmin GPS II+ last night! Turns out that the gps connecting cable provided by Kenwood was defective (going to call them today for a replacement). After messing around for 2 days I used the old VOM to find that the cable had an open somewhere. Quick trip to Radio Shack (they don't have any stereo 3/32 size that can be soldered to so I had to get a 1/8 stereo plug to attached the wire to and then an 1/8 to 3/32 adapter to get it to work.. kind of kludge ... but it proves that the system works now!) Ok, now to the point of my posting... I live in Southwestern CT where the hills are many and the digis are few. On my daily commute, it is hard to hit those that are up and running. I realize that with the 6 watts out on the TH-D7, I may not have the power needed to be heard by the digis. I have an RF Concepts RF amp that will give me 30 watts out. Back in my old packet days, I recall using TXDELAY on my old base packet system of around 25 ms. I see that I can set this in the TH-D7....does anyone have experience with using an external RF amp with the TH-D7? Any suggestions? Will this help or just hinder...? Thanks, Ward N1CUI --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 07:52:28 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA15210 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:52:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:51:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: How to configure the TH-D7 to receive 9600 bps satellites into Hyperterm? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 9 Sep 1999, Daniel Lavoie wrote: > I got my TH-D7 in packet mode connected to HyperTerminal. I'm able to send > commands to the D7 such as HB 9600, MONITOR ON, KISS ON but what's the > proper configuration to receive the 9600 bps packets from satellites? Run any of the PACSAT programs and indicate receive-only mode. In Kiss mode, you will see all packets (mostly gyberish)... In normal packet mode, the TNC will ignore all the gyberish data packets of the PACSAT protocol since they have a non-standard PID, but it will display all of the Beacon typ0e packets including status, telemetry, and etc... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 08:29:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA16061 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:29:13 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 06:29:15 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using an external power RF amp Cc: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have not tried using an amplifier with my TH-D7A because when I used a 50w mobile with my GPS II+, the GPS went berserk each time I transmitted. >.... I have an RF Concepts RF amp that will give me 30 watts out. >Back in my old packet >days, I recall using TXDELAY on my old base packet system of around 25 ms. I >see that I can set this in the TH-D7....does anyone have experience with >using an external RF amp with the TH-D7? Any suggestions? Will this help or >just hinder...? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Clark Lowry N7AAC N7AAC@aztenx.org Founding Member: Spook Hill Amateur Radio Club (SHARC) Founding Member: Arizona Desert 10-10 Chapter #06F 10-10 International #68954 10226 E. Iris Rd. 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I live in Southwestern CT where the >hills are many and the digis are few. On my daily commute, it is hard to hit >those that are up and running. I realize that with the 6 watts out on the >TH-D7, I may not have the power needed to be heard by the digis. I have an >RF Concepts RF amp that will give me 30 watts out. Back in my old packet >days, I recall using TXDELAY on my old base packet system of around 25 ms. I >see that I can set this in the TH-D7....does anyone have experience with >using an external RF amp with the TH-D7? Any suggestions? Will this help or >just hinder...? Ward, Congrats on getting the new radio working! FYI, Radio Shack does sell a cord with that little connector on it. It is a pain to work with and the wires are small and not easily solderable but it does work. It's a hands free extender cable in their cellular phone section. Anywho, regarding an amp: You can't set TXDELAY in the normal APRS mode (TNC button pushed once). However, I don't think you'll have any problems. I use the Radio Shack amp with my radio. It works great and I get around 40 Watts out of it when I run the radio on high power (voltage supplied by Kenwood power cable). So it works great for me and you'll have good luck with yours too. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 10:52:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA19876 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:52:00 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <009a01befb92$9e8584e0$08c378a4@stb.advantis.com> <009a01befb92$9e8584e0$08c378a4@stb.advantis.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:51:10 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using anexternal power RF amp Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Interesting.... I have a 50 watt mobile ICOM that doesn't seem to cause any >problem with my GPS... I have the GPS sitting on my dash using the attached >antenna for the sat signals..... is your GPS antenna outside near your 2 >meter antenna? > I am now using a III+ with my TH-D7 with the suction cup style antenna extension for the GPS stuck to the inside of the windshield and a mag mount for the Kenwood on the roof. I have no problems with this new setup. I suspect that metal roof between the two antennas helps. When I was running a GPSII with an active antenna on the roof and my 50w Icon 2350 hooked to a Diamond dual band antenna, the GPS would blink repeatedly and then reset every time the xmitter keyed. Looking at that now, I shouldn't be suprised. Clark N7AAC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 11:46:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA21441 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:46:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using anexternal power RF amp Date: Fri, 10 Sep 99 11:45:49 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Clark A. Lowry N7AAC wrote: >I suspect that metal roof between the two antennas helps. When I was >running a GPSII with an active antenna on the roof and my 50w Icon >2350 hooked to a Diamond dual band antenna, the GPS would blink >repeatedly and then reset every time the xmitter keyed. Looking at >that now, I shouldn't be suprised. Actually that's very strange. I suspect RF was getting in from somewhere but not your antenna - I'd rather suspect power supply lines. A patch antenna at 1.2 GHz has virtually zero gain and nearly infinte VSWR at 145 MHz. Also, the active antenna assemblies typically contain a ceramic bandpass filter to knock out any signals that do get in. So the RF affecting the GPS was not likely though the antenna. My GPS has never given me any problems when running power - even when running 100 W of HF power. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 12:13:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA22406 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:13:15 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:11:53 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using an external power RF amp Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Quick trip to Radio Shack (they don't >have any stereo 3/32 size that can be soldered to so I had to get a 1/8 >stereo plug to attached the wire to and then an 1/8 to 3/32 adapter to get >it to work.. kind of kludge ... but it proves that the system works now!) You must live in the NON-Metric area of CT. The PROP 2.54 ? IF you took in the 2.5 MM plug a good sales rep should have directed you to several solutions. The extender cable or the cheap headsets that use that same plug and cable. >RF Concepts RF amp that will give me 30 watts out. I have one and the Radio shack unit both works with the D7a. I even tried lowering the TXDEL parameter until I stopped seeing my packets return from the Digi. The lowest limit was around 10 When Digis were few in Dallas, I found that a better antenna like a Z-780 Mobile Dual/Band 4.5 dBi 5 Ft long (tree whacker) helped. 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 12:51:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA23351 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:51:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "ward carpenter" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using an external power RF amp Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:49:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <005501befbb4$e7639220$08c378a4@stb.advantis.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Winingham To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 1:11 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using an external power RF amp > > You must live in the NON-Metric area of CT. The PROP 2.54 ? Ok, time for my ignorence to show.... what is PROP 2.54? I live in Ridgeifeld, CT and work in Southbury, CT. 29 mile drive each way on I84 / US Rt 7 / CT Rt 35 / and a couple of local roads. There are about three points on the drive where I can hit a digi (don't know which) otherwise, I hear lots of traffic but little of it will register on the TH-D7. > > IF you took in the 2.5 MM plug a good sales rep should have directed you to > several solutions. The extender cable or the cheap headsets that use that > same plug and cable. Well, small Radio Shack in Southbury and Ridgefield. I need to hit the "big" one in Danbury! > > > > >RF Concepts RF amp that will give me 30 watts out. > > I have one and the Radio shack unit both works with the D7a. > I even tried lowering the TXDEL parameter until I stopped seeing > my packets return from the Digi. The lowest limit was around 10 > > When Digis were few in Dallas, I found that a better antenna like a > Z-780 Mobile Dual/Band 4.5 dBi 5 Ft long (tree whacker) helped. I have a Larson Dual Band with 4.5 dBi right now, so once I get the RF Amp going, I think I will be ok. 73's ward n1cui > > > 73 > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 10 18:46:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA03376 for ; Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:46:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:45:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: SMA to PL259 adaptor? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Don't blame the SMA, it happens on many Icom radios. The connection of the antenna to the PCboard is not very strong, especially if the ring nut and screw for the antenna fittings come loose. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Tue, 7 Sep 1999, Clark A. Lowry N7AAC wrote: > >John wrote: > > > > >DONT get an adapter, get a small pig-tail cable with SMA on one end and > > >PL or SO-238 on other end. The adapter could put a lot of strain on the > > >radio and break the antenna connector. I got mine for $2 at the Miami > > >Hamboree but there are other sources. > > > > Very good advice! My Icom T-21A had an SMA connector and the working > of the adapter eventually broke the antenna feed connection inside > the case. Had to send it to the Icom hospital. > > Not learning my lesson well enough, I got in a hurry and tried to use > an adapter on my TH-D7. I thought I was being very careful not to > hurt the radio, but the adapter came apart in the middle where the > parts are just pressed together. > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 11 22:12:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA25402 for ; Sat, 11 Sep 1999 22:12:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Daniel Lavoie" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] WISP configuration for PACSAT reception on a TH-D7 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:11:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000101befca2$9bec2ac0$efd1ba89@tecra> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Now that I'm a proud owner of a TH-D7, I would like to listen to the PACSAT satellites K0-25 and UO-22 (and any other digital satellites that I can receive with a TH-D7). As somebody suggested earlier, I got WISP32 and installed it for the first time. I don't understand this program very well, so I desperately need some instructions on how to configure WISP for KO-25 and UO-22. I tried to enter the information for KO-25 but when it asked for my TNC model there wasn't an entry for TASCO. With WinOrbit I was able to track KO-25 but I didn't ear anything as it went overhead. What does 9600bps packets sound like? Actually, my squelch didn't even open. Since there are no 9600 packet bbs around here, I can't test my D7 to see if it's even able to copy 9600bps. I would appreciate any help. Thanks Daniel --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 12 11:54:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA29156 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:53:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] UI digipeating via AO16/LO19 (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk For your APRS info, here is what I posted to AMSAT after Jeff's AO16 successes this weekend... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 01:16:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga To: amsat-bb@AMSAT.Org Maybe to help the Satellite community understand what we are trying to do with APRS via satellites and these early tests on AO16/LO19 with UI packets, it might be useful to think of it as "worldwide two-way LIVE amateur message paging". Several things underlie this interest: 1) The Kenwood THD7 HT is capable of sending text messages from its keyboard and receiving and displaying them on its LCD display. With the MIR digipeater, we thus found that we could send and receive messages from our SHirt pockets with rubber ducks. Thus we HAVE the handheld amateur satellite radio! Now, without MIR, we need another satellite. 2) We have a worldwide APRS informally linked Internet network that distributes any packet heard ANYWHERE to EVERYWHERE. Kind of like cellular phone systems. The internet links all the cells on the planet together, while the users are all using their radios within their cell. But with out any knowledge of how, they can communicate with anyone anywhere simply by knowing their CALLsign. 3) The IGates that link every cell into the internet are nothing special! They are nothing more than ANYONE who happens to be running APRS while he is Logged on to his ISP (Even if he is doing something else!). THus, there are no special nodes, software, or Gateways. Anyone and everyone can be a gateway at any time. Thus, as long as anyone can be heard anywhere, he can communicate anywhere. Thus, as long as we have at least ONE station on each continent listening to AO16/LO19, then any messages via that satelite can go ANYWHERE on the planet within the APRS infrastructure in real time. 4) Thus, the desire for a Satelite Digipeater to allow remote users who are not near any of the terrestrial network, to send and receive messages during a pass. Remember, in APRS, a MESSAGE is typically ONE LINE or so. You can say a LOT in one line if you want to... As a UI packet, there is NO connection, NO acks, NO timeouts, NO Queues. As long as you see your one or two packets digipeated, then you can assume they got there... 5) Since APRS is a live two-way system, All of the above, assumes that the recepient of a message has his radio on. In APRS there is no store-and- forward. Messages are deliverd LIVE or not at all. With one exception. A message can be addressed to "EMAIL" and a server written by WU2Z will ACK the message and wrap it into an Email message for the internet. Thus, today I received the following: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:32:32 -0400 (EDT) From: KB2WQM-1@unknown.net To: wb4apr@amsat.org Subject: APRS Message from KB2WQM-1 hello via pacsat -------------------------- Message received by MacAPRS IGate station WU2Z Located in NO BRUNSWICK, NJ APRS path = KB2WQM-1>APS199,INTERNET TCP/IP ----------------------------------------------------- As you can see, Jeff, KB2WQM sent this from his boat using a conventional 2 meter FM radio, and OMNI mobile antenna, and a manchester or modified TAPR-2 TNC. It was digipeated by AO16. It was monitored by an IGate somewhere and injected into the worldwide APRS stream (TELNET to 199.227.86.221 port 23) There it would normally pop back out to RF at any IGate that had heard me locally. But since he sent it to EMAIL, the WU2Z server picked it up and Emailed it to me... This is only an unusual example of APRS messaging. Normally he would have just sent the message directly to my station (most APRS operators leave their station on the air at all times). But here he decided to demo how APRS messages can also be delivered via Email. Unfortunately, without MIR, the only other digipeaters in space that welcome APRS UI packets are AO16 and LO19. For now, this prevents the Kenwood HT from being used since it does not have a manchester TNC. But anyone with a TAPR-2 clone TNC and 2m FM mobile radio can make a $3 mod and transmit. We want to demonstrate this capability to encourage more digipeaters in space for mobile/handheld two-way brief messaging. I hope this paints the larger picture and helps explain where we are trying to go. And despite what *used to be* very special hardware requirements to operate the 1200 baud pacsats, Remember that NOW anyone can transmit up to AO16/LO19 relatively simply and we only need a few listening... de WB4APR, Bob For more info see http://web.usna.navy.mil/~bruninga/traknet.html ---- Via the amsat-bb mailing list at AMSAT.ORG courtesy of AMSAT-NA. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe amsat-bb" to Majordomo@amsat.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 12 21:34:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA13558 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:34:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: From: "Erich Berman" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:34:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Files for San Francisco, northern California and Reno/lake Tahoe Reply-to: erich@berman.org Priority: normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199909130234.VAA24967@pop00.execpc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello all, I will be travelling to San Francisco, northern California and the Reno/Lake Tahoe area in a few weeks. While I'm there I'd like to bring my BC-245 scanner along and listen to the local action. I'd appreciate any files sent to me that I can upload to the 245. I can accept files in WinScan and RadioMax format and any other files in text or .XLS format. For hams, I also intend to bring along my TH-D7A if you have any Kenwood MCP files for it. An e-mail with attachment to the address above would be much appreciated. Thanks. Erich N9RTM --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 13 12:51:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id MAA22460 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:51:40 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using anexternal power RF amp Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:49:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BEFDDE.0073AAE0@Tony.in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id MAA22460 Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com wrote: >Clark A. Lowry N7AAC wrote: >>I suspect that metal roof between the two antennas helps. When I was >>running a GPSII with an active antenna on the roof and my 50w Icon >>2350 hooked to a Diamond dual band antenna, the GPS would blink >>repeatedly and then reset every time the xmitter keyed. Looking at >>that now, I shouldn't be suprised. >Actually that's very strange. >I suspect RF was getting in from somewhere but not your antenna - I'd >rather suspect power supply lines. A patch antenna at 1.2 GHz has >virtually zero gain and nearly infinte VSWR at 145 MHz. Also, the active >antenna assemblies typically contain a ceramic bandpass filter to knock >out any signals that do get in. So the RF affecting the GPS was not >likely though the antenna. >My GPS has never given me any problems when running power - even when >running 100 W of HF power. Typical for me too. With a 50W Yaesu 8100R feeding a Diamond NR770 dual bander on a rooftop magmount just 6 to 12" away from my Garmin active antenna also on it's magmount, the GPS would never care when I keyed the 2M or 70cm RF at full power. Not even a wiggle of the GPS's S/N ratio bars was ever seen. On the other hand, if I didn't put ferrites onto the external-speaker and incoming-power leads of the Yaesu, I could easily create a "stuck mike" via using full power xmits. I suspect that may be the most productive kind of path to follow with the bonkers GPS problem too. How are you powering the GPS, Clark? Maybe the power lead is a 2M-resonant length. If so, try adding some more length in the form of ferrite wraps, as close to the GPS as you can get. Tony A. KD7CEJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 13 13:33:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA23752 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:33:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:45:44 -0400 From: Arte Booten X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7a DIGIs [Was: [aprssig] Second Highest Altitude Digi's] References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37DC5748.9FEBD018@webspan.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, John W. wrote: >I don't think the TH-D7A digipeats. Not left to its own device, so to speak. But there's a setting in pocketAPRS that would seem to effectively do the same thing. 73 _______________________________________________________________________ |Arte Booten AEC for Digital Services, NYC ARES/RACES| |PGP Key Fingerprint: 22E5 3EC7 4E3C 2460 C570 BACA E48B 71D5 0F33 54AD| |Riverdale, New York [FN30bv] !4052.71N/07354.06WNPHG5370/A=00240| |Packet: N2ZRC@KB2VLX.#BRONX.NY.USA.NA HTX-202/RS Brick/KPC-3 6.0/X-510| |______________________________________________________________________| A new bumper sticker in New York State reads, "Run Hillary, Run!" Democrats put it on the rear bumper. Republicans put it on the front. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 13 16:10:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA29062 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:10:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using anexternal power RF amp Date: Mon, 13 Sep 99 16:10:07 -0500 x-sender: jono@pop.enteract.com From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Tony Arnerich wrote: >On the other hand, if I didn't put ferrites onto the external-speaker and >incoming-power leads of the Yaesu, I could easily create a "stuck mike" >via using full power xmits. I suspect that may be the most productive kind >of path to follow with the bonkers GPS problem too. How are you powering >the GPS, Clark? Maybe the power lead is a 2M-resonant length. If so, try >adding some more length in the form of ferrite wraps, as close to the GPS >as you can get. Agreed. RF is probably getting into his GPS unit via the power cord which in turns causes the micro-p in the GPS to go bonkers. And as you say, it's easily cured with some fairly low cost ferrites. Amidon sells some nice ferrite donuts that you can wrap the cord on and they do an amazing job. Even the Radio Scrap units are the correct material for 2M and will do fine. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 13 22:50:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA09453 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:50:03 -0500 (CDT) X-Lotus-FromDomain: SANLIEN From: Jack_Yu@sanlien.com.tw To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:46:08 +0800 Subject: [htaprs] Garmin GPS 35 extension model Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <482567EC.0014800A.00@ma.sanlien.com.tw> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Dear All: can anyone advice which extension model of Garmin GPS 35 is the most suitable for D7 application? Thank you. Sincerely, Jack Yu --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 14 07:50:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA05761 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:50:40 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 05:50:13 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Up and running.. question about using anexternal power RF amp Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > How are you powering the GPS, Clark? Maybe the power lead is a >2M-resonant length. If so, try adding some more length in the form >of ferrite wraps, as close to the GPS as you can get. > >Tony A. KD7CEJ > I managed to let the GPS II get stolen from my truck and have replaced it with a GPS III+ which I have had no problems with. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 14 09:42:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA08769 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:42:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Tim Russell" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:42:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001401befebf$51848300$c100000a@russvmc.ilg.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Whoa - I was just reading about the new PalmPilot-compatible handhelds from Handspring, the company started by the original Palm designers. Besides the fact that these units look NICE - with a USB cradle available as well (yes!), they also accept plug-in modules, and the CNN story says that a GPS module is planned!!!!! Very cool indeed for APRS use, I daresay... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 14 09:59:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA09326 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:59:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Mark Keiser" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:57:06 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000301befec1$69926e60$a064080a@chi.navtech.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk But will it run Palm APRS? > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-8625@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-8625@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Tim Russell > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:42 AM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! > > > Whoa - I was just reading about the new PalmPilot-compatible > handhelds from > Handspring, the company started by the original Palm designers. > > Besides the fact that these units look NICE - with a USB cradle > available as > well (yes!), they also accept plug-in modules, and the CNN story > says that a > GPS module is planned!!!!! > > Very cool indeed for APRS use, I daresay... > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mkeiser@chi.navtech.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 14 10:08:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA09596 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:08:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:09:35 -0400 From: Jean Paul Pierrepont X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] RE: New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37DE571F.99CA9B27@kconline.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Mark Keiser wrote: > > But will it run Palm APRS? > Well..Should someone call/write for specs to see what it will do as far as data streams? Paul KB9AVO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 14 10:10:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA09635 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:09:59 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:03:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Pat \"BUFF\" Hykkonen" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Mark Keiser wrote: > But will it run Palm APRS? > > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [htaprs] New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! > > > > > > Whoa - I was just reading about the new PalmPilot-compatible > > handhelds from > > Handspring, the company started by the original Palm designers. > > > > Besides the fact that these units look NICE - with a USB cradle > > available as > > well (yes!), they also accept plug-in modules, and the CNN story > > says that a > > GPS module is planned!!!!! > > > > Very cool indeed for APRS use, I daresay... Yes, it will run PocketAPRS and all other PalmOS applications reportedly. Eight megabytes should be enough to hold large detailed maps too! -- Pat Hykkonen, N5NPL pat@hykkonen.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 14 14:33:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA17392 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:33:43 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 12:32:28 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] RE: New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Mark Keiser wrote: > > > > But will it run Palm APRS? > > Says they licensed the Palm OS from 3Com. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 14 18:18:32 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA24171 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:18:28 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] RE: New Handspring PDAs - GPS planned! Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 19:17:48 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 9/14/99 10:09 AM, Jean Paul Pierrepont (crossbow@kconline.com) passed this wisdom: >Mark Keiser wrote: >> >> But will it run Palm APRS? >> > >Well..Should someone call/write for specs to see what it will do as far >as data streams? Web Page says it has licensed Palm OS 3.1 Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "...and on the 7th day GOD turned off His MacIntosh" Apple Wizards Jun98 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 15 03:25:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id DAA15024 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 03:25:45 -0500 (CDT) Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:10:52 +0200 From: "Schayk A.H. van" Subject: [htaprs] floyd decode To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <710E1F0BA36DD211893E0008C71C6466083881@triton> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi I've been gating TROPIC objects and WWIN bulletins for a couple of days now but the don't seem to decode on the th-d7 I've noticed that the to call for both is WX so my gues is that the th-d7 doesn't see WX as an aprs call is this correct or is somthing else going on? speaking of floyd when i was online yesterday from 18:00 utc till 21:00 utc i didn't see any TROPIC or WWIN trafic did the shut down because of the evacuation or is there an other reason? 73 de Andre PE1RDW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 15 09:17:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA01767 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 09:17:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 10:16:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: floyd decode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Schayk A.H. van wrote: > I've been gating TROPIC objects and WWIN bulletins for a couple of days now > but the don't seem to decode on the th-d7 > I've noticed that the to call for both is WX so my gues is that the th-d7 > doesn't see WX as an aprs call > is this correct or is somthing else going on? I think you got it correctly. APRS expects only certain TOCALLS... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 15 22:23:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA25343 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:23:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Dale Huguley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: floyd decode Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 03:18:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000a01befff2$161695e0$7e994d0c@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob and all- I tried a TOCALL of "APWX" but Winaprs will not react to it. I decided to use a page from the Microsoft marketing page and turn this "bug" into a "feature". The packets that will make sense on a th-d7 are sent to "APRS". The rest are sent to WX so that they don't clutter up the screen or the memory of the handheld. With the landfall of Floyd, there should be lots of tornado and severe thunderstorm warnings- read TOR 15 NORTHmov WEST @12 SMITHVILLE as Tornado [OFFSET][course and speed][Name of reference point] or Tornado 15 miles north of Smithville Moving west at 12 mph this rather odd sequence is to make the data land at predictable places on the th-d7 screen I was wondering why no one ever comented on seeing a warning on their handheld- the WX thing was the problem 73 de kg5qd Dale >On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Schayk A.H. van wrote: > >> I've been gating TROPIC objects and WWIN bulletins for a couple of days now >> but the don't seem to decode on the th-d7 >> I've noticed that the to call for both is WX so my gues is that the th-d7 >> doesn't see WX as an aprs call >> is this correct or is somthing else going on? > >I think you got it correctly. APRS expects only certain TOCALLS... > >de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 16 20:24:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA18230 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:24:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Subject: [htaprs] APRS National Symposium at DCC Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:22:25 -0400 x-sender: sdimse@m1.sprynet.com From: Steve Dimse To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199909170123.VAA29027@smtp6.mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Here is the tentative schedule for the APRS National Symposium at DCC, Friday September 24 at 1 PM, in Phoenix. If you want more info about the DCC, please see http://www.tapr.org/dcc As usual the day is long, and yet most speakers would like twice as much time. Still, this year's program should be the best yet! 1:00 Steve Dimse K4HG.........Welcome 1:10 Bob Bruninga WB4APR......APRSdos and TrakNet update 2:00 Keith Sproul WU2Z........MacAPRS/WinAPRS Update 2:40 Mark Sproul KB2ICI.......XAPRS 3:00 Break 3:15 Brent Hildebrant KH2Z....APRS+SA Update 4:00 Steve Dimse K4HG.........Internet and APRS 4:20 Rob Wittner KZ5RW........WinCE version 4:40 Stan Horzepa WA1LOU......Kenwood TH-D7 Tricks, Treats, and Tragedies 5:10 Break 5:20 David McCarthy KC7AYX....Arizona APRS 5:35 Mike Musick N0QBF........PocketAPRS 6:15 Steve Bible N7HPR........Microcontrollers and APRS 6:45 John Ackerman N8UR.......APRS Working Group Update This seminar will mark the release of version 1.0 of PocketAPRS, possibly a public beta of a WinCE version, and new versions of many of the other clients. Surprises are always possible too. Almost half the papers to be presented at the main session on Saturday pertain to APRS, and the Sunday Technical Seminar is on PIC processors. Don't miss this year's DCC! Steve K4HG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Sep 18 21:46:55 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA07150 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:46:53 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jack Parker" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Broken Connector Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:50:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000801bf0249$aaf95b80$dd372bd1@JackParker> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bummer. I found out how flimsy the stereo connector was today. The tip broke off inside the PC slot of the D7A. Now I'm looking for a simple way to get it out. Any clues? Thanks --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 19 08:26:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA07530 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:26:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:23:48 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] TH-D7A Antenna Connector Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990918202241.006f684c@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The plug you refer to is available from Mouser Electronics. http://www.mouser.com/ It is actually a cable with a 2.5mm molded plug on it. Plugs for Garmin GPS units are available from: http://www.pfranc.com/ SMA to BNC adapter are available at Hamcomms and a number of electronic supply houses. http://www.avnet-allied.com/ (or the other way round.) This is only one example. Pasternak has them and I am sure that there are other sources. BTW: are you aware of the aprsht sig? Sponsored by TAPR. A wealth of information about the TH D7. Hope this helps! 73 Gary At 02:27 AM 09/19/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Where is everybody finding the SMA antenna adapter for the TH-D7A? I think >that is what it is. I'd like to use a mobile mag mount antenna with it. >Also has anybody found the right angle 2.5mm stereo plugs for the GPS >connection? > >Thanks >Brian > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to aprssig as: railfan@flash.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-aprssig-10941T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 19 15:01:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA18093 for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 15:01:49 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 16:00:56 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: Broken Connector To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Double bummer, I had to send mine back because the output transistors (FETs?) shorted and the thing got so hot you could actually burn yourself on the back. I am very impatiently awaiting it's return. One of the most fun ham toys I own. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Sat, 18 Sep 1999, Jack Parker wrote: > Bummer. I found out how flimsy the stereo connector was today. The tip > broke off inside the PC slot of the D7A. Now I'm looking for a simple way > to get it out. Any clues? > Thanks > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 20 13:00:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id NAA10598 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:00:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gary L. Ashkenazy" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Problem with my TH-D7A Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 10:55:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000401bf0391$626cc520$d8290018@vista1.sdca.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk My TH-D7A has developed a problem after working perfectly on APRS for the past two months. The problem is as follows: After turning on the HT, the TNC will initalize, the radio will beacon and received callsigns are displayed as normal. After about 1-3 minutes of normal operation, however, callsigns are no longer displayed and beaconing (set at 1 minute) stops. Audio confirms that signals are still being received and the bar graph indicates adequate signal strength. The display continues to show frequency and both tnc and beacon icons even though the APRS functions apparently have stopped. I can turn the rig off and then on again but the results are the same. Everything works fine for 1-3 minutes and then APRS functions cease. There is no problem when using the rig on voice. I have not tried using it on packet. I have tried two different batteries as well as the PG-3J filtered DC cable and a 12VDC supply. I have also done partial and complete resets but the problem persists. Kenwood says that they have not heard of this problem. Any suggestions on what I might try before sending it in for warranty repair? Tnx, Gary AF7M --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 20 14:52:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA14666 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 14:52:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [198.144.111.78] Reply-To: ke6ncx@arrl.net From: "Neil ke6ncx" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] "other" icon settings on D7A Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:52:06 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990920195206.24025.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I'm back on the list after being away for a few months. Can anyone explain to me how to set the D7A for "other" icons? The manual says that info is in a file on the disc that comes with the optional data cable. The optional data cable wan't yet on the market when I wanted to buy it, though it may be now. But it seems silly to buy the cable (when I now have another cable working just fine) just to get info they should have put in the manual. Neil Fullagar, KE6NCX Training Officer Alameda County (CA) Sheriff's Communications Team (RACES) ke6ncx@arrl.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 20 15:01:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA14860 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:01:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Charles J. Doubrough" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Fw: Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:01:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002301bf03a3$013709c0$6f978c8e@bconnex.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Degeer To: ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 8:00 PM > From: "Crystal Crosbie" > To: babygirl_kristal@hotmail.com, shannondier@hotmail.com, > jilly_bean018@hotmail.com, i_got_dreams@yahoo.com, > sharla_hanna@yahoo.com, toomuchmakeup@hotmail.com, > katiemahon@hotmail.com, poshspice1000@hotmail.com, kaner100@hotmail.com, > carebear100@hotmail.com, sassha@gurlmail.com > Subject: Fwd: : do this, it's a riot] > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:47:15 PDT > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from 204.77.78.151 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP;Sun, 12 Sep > 1999 17:47:15 PDT > X-Originating-IP: [204.77.78.151] > > > > > > > From: "Jenna Nicole Burchill" > To: "Nicole Pugh" , "Melissa Shelly" > , "Kelly McFadden" , > "Jenny F" , "Emma Bilodeau" > , "Eddy Grunig" , > "Crystal Crosbie" , "Crystal Crosbie" > , "C. Monnink" , "Ashley > Pugh" , "Alida Steele" > > Subject: Fwd: : do this, it's a riot] > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:39:25 -0700 > > > -- > > --------- Forwarded Message --------- > > DATE: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:08:33 > From: "Kell" > To: "Shawn Cauley" , "Melissa Shelly" , "Megan James" , "Kacie > Turner" , "John Graham" , "Jessica Crawford" , "Jessica Coughlan" , > "Jenny Frizell" , "Jenna Burchill" , "Ben Brady" , "Ashley Robinson" > > > >> > > > I tried one of these before and I got nothing back. So if > I don't > >>get > >> > > > anything this time, I'm going to wring Al's next for > wasting > >>everyone's > >> > > > time! > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: Macdonald, Alan > >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 9:50 AM > >> > > > To: Astley, Diane; 'Bruce Tippett'; Brunelle, Kathy; > Caldwell, > >>Tom; > >> > > > 'CSeebach@aol.com'; 'Dan MacDonald'; 'dyauck@cyberus.ca'; > Gallivan, > >> > Mark; > >> > > > Hamilton, S. (Scott); Hopper, Debbie; Houghton, David > >> > > > > >> > > > Subject: FW: [Fwd: FW: do this, it's a riot] > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: Monette, Paul > >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 1999 9:44 AM > >> > > > To: Ball, M. (Murray); Fiebig, Kristin; Keyes, M. > (Michael); > >> > > > Macdonald, Alan; Menard, Francois; Milliken, Mike; > >> > 'monette1@netcom.ca'; > >> > > > Pallett, Michael; Steel, Jim; 'EMonette@JetForm.com'; > Seymour, > >>Jason > >> > J.S. > >> > > > (RTHOST) > >> > > > > >> > > > Subject: FW: [Fwd: FW: do this, it's a riot] > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: Ball, M. (Murray) > >> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 11:35 AM > >> > > > To: Houghton, David; Steel, Jim; Monette, Paul; Fortin, > J. > >>(Julie); > >> > > > Nesbitt, R. (Robert); Eric S Lang; PThom; Ball, JP; alexis > ball > >>(work); > >> > > > McAulay, Dave; Dryburgh, Carol; Neville, Lisa; Tribble, N. > >>(Nicole); > >> > Noel > >> > > > Villard > >> > > > > >> > > > Subject: FW: [Fwd: FW: do this, it's a riot] > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ---------- > >> > > > From: Beth Hoff > >> > > > To: zggirl@rof.net > >> > > > Subject: FW: [Fwd: FW: do this, it's a riot] > >> > > > Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 11:09AM > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > It is hard to find 11 people with a good sense of humor, > you > >> > > > lucky people... > >> > > > OK here's the deal, this works. I don't know how...but it > works, > >>you > >> > > > have to send it (this) too no less than 11 people. > Somehow,from the > >> > > > return path generated, you'll receive...something, and it > is > >>funny!!!! > >> > > > > >> > > > This is the coolest thing I've ever gotten! All you have > to do > >>send > >> > it > >> > > > to 11 people and this little videocomes up on your screen > and shows > >>the > >> > > > funniest clip. i can't tell youwhat it is but i was > laughing so > >> > hard! > >> > > > So spend a few seconds to sendthis and you'll be glad! > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --------- End Forwarded Message --------- > > > > get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com > > --------- End Forwarded Message --------- > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 20 15:17:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA15472 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 15:17:04 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Braaten, Ed" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] WX decoding on D7 (Was: floyd decode) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 13:16:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <514BE2EDEAB2D111AC3F00A0C9692EC605B45F8B@fmsmsx38.fm.intel.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On the topic of WX and the TH-D7, I was wondering if someone could point out which format of WX data the D7 can actually decode. Once in awhile I've seen a station in the D7's station list with a nicely decoded Temp, Wind direction, Wind speed, etc. But most of the WX stations in my area show up on the D7 station list with the Peet Bros formatted "!...." stuff in the station status text, with none of the WX data decoded. I'm sure the WX data from these stations is "valid" since it is interpreted properly by WinAPRS. My remote WX station (K6EKB-5) is one of the stations the D7 can't decode. If there is another data format that a Peet Bros./KPC3+ combination can output that would be "compatible" with the D7, I'd love to hear about it! 73, Ed ----- Ed Braaten, K6EKB mailto:k6ekb@arrl.net http://home.sprynet.com/~ekb/ -----Original Message----- From: Dale Huguley [mailto:kg5qd@worldnet.att.net] Sent: 15 September 1999 20:18 To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: floyd decode Bob and all- I tried a TOCALL of "APWX" but Winaprs will not react to it. I decided to use a page from the Microsoft marketing page and turn this "bug" into a "feature". The packets that will make sense on a th-d7 are sent to "APRS". The rest are sent to WX so that they don't clutter up the screen or the memory of the handheld. With the landfall of Floyd, there should be lots of tornado and severe thunderstorm warnings- read TOR 15 NORTHmov WEST @12 SMITHVILLE as Tornado [OFFSET][course and speed][Name of reference point] or Tornado 15 miles north of Smithville Moving west at 12 mph this rather odd sequence is to make the data land at predictable places on the th-d7 screen I was wondering why no one ever comented on seeing a warning on their handheld- the WX thing was the problem 73 de kg5qd Dale --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 20 19:15:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA22747 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:15:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Sissom, Jay D" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: "other" icon settings on D7A Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:13:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6402349DAB@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk My computer data cable with this CDROM has been back ordered for well over a month so don't plan on receiving one soon if you don't already have one... 73 Jay KA9OKT -----Original Message----- From: Neil ke6ncx [mailto:ke6ncx@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 2:52 PM To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] "other" icon settings on D7A I'm back on the list after being away for a few months. Can anyone explain to me how to set the D7A for "other" icons? The manual says that info is in a file on the disc that comes with the optional data cable. The optional data cable wan't yet on the market when I wanted to buy it, though it may be now. But it seems silly to buy the cable (when I now have another cable working just fine) just to get info they should have put in the manual. Neil Fullagar, KE6NCX Training Officer Alameda County (CA) Sheriff's Communications Team (RACES) ke6ncx@arrl.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jsissom@exchange.indiana.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 22 18:02:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA14508 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 18:02:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: 22 Sep 1999 23:00:25 GMT From: "Wayne H. Sanderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] On shopping Safari with D7 & GPS III+ Message-ID: X-Magic-Cap-Form: memo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id SAA14508 I got my new TH-D7a and GPS-III+ working together in time for my trip to Lancaster County, PA. I found a Garmin Power/Data cable for sale at Harry's Army & Navy in Yardville, NJ, along with the Computer Connection Kit. I already have the kit, so if anyone needs it and you will be passing through NJ, let me know and I will give you directions. They might do credit card purchases and shipping over the phone too. Apparently Garmin has inserted a flyer telling you how to hook the data lines up the Right Way. Having heard the directions in the D7 package were wrong, I hooked it up opposite from the instructions on the flyer and it did not work, so when I reversed the TXD and RXD lines to match the diagram then it worked. Forewarned is not always forearmed, I guess. Incoming signals are good all over the Lancaster shopping and tourist areas, from Lititz to Kinzer and all in between there was constant activity, and my D7 registered over 100 waypoints in a day of monitoring, less down time for battery recharges and periods where I had the rig off. I am all battery power for this trip. My troubles are only that I rarely seem to hit a digi out here. From inside the car it does not surprise me, but outside, standing in an unobstructed area, holding the D7 up high overhead and manually beaconing has only gotten me digi'd once, at Strasburg this afternoon. The nearest digi signal hits nearly full bars on my D7 from all locations I've tried. Is the stock antenna this bad? How much difference would a new more efficient duck make? Would a mobile mag mount make it dramatically better running the stock power? Too bad the D7 was not set up so you could use a serial PDA keyboard, like the Newton's or the Royal palm style organizer's, plugged into the D7's PC serial port. Chatting and short messages while mobile would be made really easy and much faster compared to the built in, scroll-for-your-life typing method currently employed. (Again, apologies if your mail clients see MIME or hokey attachments- I'm still trying to get a software patch from the manufacturer to make the No MIME option work reliably on this device.) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 22 19:51:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA17486 for ; Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:51:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 07:48:31 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Re: On shopping Safari with D7 & GPS III+ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990922074723.006e6544@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk HI Wayne, Stock antennas are typically not bad, they just aren't as good as they could be. Manufacturers have to keep cost down, so the companies compromise and one of the compromises is the antenna. I don't think that I have a stock antenna on any of my radios. Yes, you will be better off getting an after market antenna. I use a Pryme 15" wire antenna and I love it. MFJ makes one and I think that diamond makes one. The problem with the 15" antenna is the length! While it receives the signals very well, it tends to get in the way! Oh well, can have every thing! I also use a mag mount when mobile and using APRS+. Makes a world of difference! You might also consider that your packets are getting to the digi and they are getting trashed. How do you know? I don't know! Seems like sometimes I hit the digis here ok and sometime I don't. Must have something to do the phase of the moon or something! HIHI Anyway, hope this helps. I am not an expert on antennas but I know what works for me! 73 Gary KD5DAY At 11:00 PM 09/22/1999 GMT, you wrote: >I got my new TH-D7a and GPS-III+ working together in time for my trip to Lancaster County, PA. I found a Garmin Power/Data cable for sale at Harry's Army & Navy in Yardville, NJ, along with the Computer Connection Kit. I already have the kit, so if anyone needs it and you will be passing through NJ, let me know and I will give you directions. They might do credit card purchases and shipping over the phone too. >Apparently Garmin has inserted a flyer telling you how to hook the data lines up the Right Way. Having heard the directions in the D7 package were wrong, I hooked it up opposite from the instructions on the flyer and it did not work, so when I reversed the TXD and RXD lines to match the diagram then it worked. Forewarned is not always forearmed, I guess. >Incoming signals are good all over the Lancaster shopping and tourist areas, from Lititz to Kinzer and all in between there was constant activity, and my D7 registered over 100 waypoints in a day of monitoring, less down time for battery recharges and periods where I had the rig off. I am all battery power for this trip. >My troubles are only that I rarely seem to hit a digi out here. From inside the car it does not surprise me, but outside, standing in an unobstructed area, holding the D7 up high overhead and manually beaconing has only gotten me digi'd once, at Strasburg this afternoon. The nearest digi signal hits nearly full bars on my D7 from all locations I've tried. > >Is the stock antenna this bad? How much difference would a new more efficient duck make? Would a mobile mag mount make it dramatically better running the stock power? > >Too bad the D7 was not set up so you could use a serial PDA keyboard, like the Newton's or the Royal palm style organizer's, plugged into the D7's PC serial port. Chatting and short messages while mobile would be made really easy and much faster compared to the built in, scroll-for-your-life typing method currently employed. > >(Again, apologies if your mail clients see MIME or hokey attachments- I'm still trying to get a software patch from the manufacturer to make the No MIME option work reliably on this device.) > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: railfan@flash.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 23 10:45:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA26397 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:45:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: "LB" From: "LB" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] aprs CE Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:42:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000801bf05da$3f396a40$1e077bd4@pandora.be> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk hi, all, Any news yet on the APRS for CE version to be released this Friday, i'm very interested in testing it on my Everex Freestyle 73's ON9AAV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 23 17:48:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA09690 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:48:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Phil Greenland" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Yeasu FT-23R & APRS Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:49:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF05F4.62D2BB40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001f01bf0615$eb4c76c0$161573d1@philgree> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF05F4.62D2BB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All: I was wondering if anyone is using an Yaesu FT-23R with a Kantronics = KPC-3. Any tips would appreciated. Phil E-mail: pgreen@axom.com Amateur Call: KB8QHM Web Page: http://www.axom.com/greenland/index.htm ICQ Number: 1499191 ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF05F4.62D2BB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi All:
I was wondering if anyone is using an Yaesu FT-23R = with a=20 Kantronics KPC-3. Any tips would appreciated.
Phil
  E-mail: pgreen@axom.com
  Amateur = Call:=20 KB8QHM
  Web Page: http://www.axom.com/gree= nland/index.htm
 =20 ICQ Number: 1499191
------=_NextPart_000_001C_01BF05F4.62D2BB40-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 23 21:32:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA14851 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:32:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Harry Burford" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Yeasu FT-23R & APRS Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:31:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <017701bf0634$eb6516c0$a66f6f6f@HB> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If I remember correctly, the FT23 has that automatic battery save mode that can't be turned off. When squelched, the radio will sample the receive frequency for a signal. If a packet signal is received while the radio is 'sleeping', it misses part of the packet and the TNC reads garbage. You will want to get a TNC that supports open squelch. The receiver will be on all the time so battery life will be reduced. As I recall, the FT23, 73, and 470 that I used in the distant past worked very well for packet. Harry, KAØTTY ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Greenland To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 5:49 PM Subject: [htaprs] Yeasu FT-23R & APRS Hi All: I was wondering if anyone is using an Yaesu FT-23R with a Kantronics KPC-3. Any tips would appreciated. Phil E-mail: pgreen@axom.com Amateur Call: KB8QHM Web Page: http://www.axom.com/greenland/index.htm ICQ Number: 1499191 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 23 23:24:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id XAA18004 for ; Thu, 23 Sep 1999 23:24:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: jlagreek Reply-To: "jlagreek@inlink.com" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: On shopping Safari with D7 & GPS III+ Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 21:16:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BF0614.32027E40.jlagreek@inlink.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Plug in a Palm Pilot and run pocketAPRS. Gives you the message capability you want and maps. www.pocketaprs.com 73 de N0OTM Joe LaGreek District Emergency Coordinator Missouri Section Too bad the D7 was not set up so you could use a serial PDA keyboard, like the Newton's or the Royal palm style organizer's, plugged into the D7's PC serial port. Chatting and short messages while mobile would be made really easy and much faster compared to the built in, scroll-for-your-life typing method currently employed. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 24 02:40:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id CAA29502 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 02:40:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: Mike Higlett To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Yaesu FT-23R & APRS Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:39:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <793E14E86E3ED111896300A0C9302B7E620954@postmaster.localnet> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi All, For packet use the power save mode during closed squelch receive can be disabled. On the control board there are some programming jumpers - removing jumper 10 switches off power save - quite useful for packet. These details I got from some mods floating around on the newsgroups. 73 Mike G6WTM Harrogate, Yorkshire, England --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 24 06:04:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id GAA13337 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 06:04:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:00:03 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Something weird finally... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990923175901.006d0bac@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk happened to my radio. Last night at my radio club meeting, I was needing to change the frequency step on the D7A. I looked and looked and looked and could not find the function for step size. Well, when I got home I got out my manual and discovered that step size is function 8. Cool! Tried to go to function 8 and it wasn't there! My function numbers went like this: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 0, . I did a VFO reset and that worked once. Did another VFO reset and that appeared to fix the problem. Anybody else experienced this? Gary --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 24 08:54:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA16661 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:54:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Sissom, Jay D" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Something weird finally... Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:53:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB6402349DCD@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk If you are on a memory and you press Function, you won't see this option, but you'll see the Memory name option. If you press VFO, you'll see this option. Jay -----Original Message----- From: GPersons [mailto:railfan@flash.net] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 6:00 PM To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Something weird finally... happened to my radio. Last night at my radio club meeting, I was needing to change the frequency step on the D7A. I looked and looked and looked and could not find the function for step size. Well, when I got home I got out my manual and discovered that step size is function 8. Cool! Tried to go to function 8 and it wasn't there! My function numbers went like this: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 0, . I did a VFO reset and that worked once. Did another VFO reset and that appeared to fix the problem. Anybody else experienced this? Gary --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jsissom@exchange.indiana.edu To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 24 09:03:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA17011 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:03:02 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 09:00:32 -0500 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Something weird finally... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EB8400.61CFB34D@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Gary, You were probably on a memory channel. You have to be on the VFO to change the step size. When you go thru the functions, you will see different ones depending on whether you are in the VFO or on a memory channel. Skip K9SA GPersons wrote: > > happened to my radio. Last night at my radio club meeting, I was needing > to change the frequency step on the D7A. I looked and looked and looked and > could not find the function for step size. Well, when I got home I got out > my manual and discovered that step size is function 8. Cool! Tried to go to > function 8 and it wasn't there! My function numbers went like this: 1, 2, > 3, 4, 5, 9, 0, . I did a VFO reset and that worked once. Did another VFO > reset and that appeared to fix the problem. > > Anybody else experienced this? > > Gary > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Sep 24 19:10:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA04274 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:10:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: "other" icon settings on D7A In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:52:06 PDT." Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:09:26 -0700 From: John Sullivan List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199909250009.RAA25195@marvin> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I haven't seen an answer to this yet. Haven't seen much traffic at all on the list this week, for that matter, The D7 manual is a little sketchy on this function, but its not hard to figure out. The only trick is that you can't use the number keypad to enter the code, just the cursor control. Select "others" from the icon menu and scroll until you have the two-character icon code that you want. If you need a list of assigned symbols, the symbols.txt file which is included in the AprsDos documentation is a good source. This may be the extra information that you would get in the data cable manual. 73 de John WD6BTP > From: "Neil ke6ncx" > To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" > Subject: [htaprs] "other" icon settings on D7A > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:52:06 PDT > Mime-Version: 1.0 > List-Unsubscribe: > List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 > List-Subscribe: > List-Owner: > X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio > X-Message-Id: <19990920195206.24025.qmail@hotmail.com> > Sender: bounce-htaprs-8758@lists.tapr.org > Precedence: bulk > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > Content-Length: 816 > > I'm back on the list after being away for a few months. > > Can anyone explain to me how to set the D7A for "other" icons? The manual > says that info is in a file on the disc that comes with the optional data > cable. The optional data cable wan't yet on the market when I wanted to buy > it, though it may be now. But it seems silly to buy the cable (when I now > have another cable working just fine) just to get info they should have put > in the manual. > > Neil Fullagar, KE6NCX > Training Officer > Alameda County (CA) Sheriff's Communications Team (RACES) > ke6ncx@arrl.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 06:40:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id GAA22348 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 06:40:32 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:40:09 +0000 From: Dr Kevin Johnston X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Help TH-D7A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Info: South East On Line List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EDF808.A681D93B@seol.net.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Greetings from Australia, I would welcome some assistance and advice. I have just purchased a THD7A and VCH1 here in Australia. Unfortunately the dealer support is less than ideal compared to US. Also the Kenwood interface leads, including the PG-4W ( ht to PC) lead are not available yet in VK. I have source the B-version of the MCP-D7 from the internet and have this installed. I have made a home-brew lead using the protocol on page 53 of the instruction manual using three leads only GND, TXD and RXD. MY PROBLEM IS THAT THE MCP-D7 SOFTWARE (AND ALL MY USUAL TNC TERMINAL PROGRAMS) cannot recognise the TNC?? They default or time out. Qs. Do I need to cross connect other leads in the DB9 plug at the PC end apart from the three data leads? Do I have to enable the data link from within the menu in the TH-7DA before the link will work? Any suggestions gratefully received here. Its hard running something new in a small Australian country town Thanks Kevin VK5KJ Mount Gambier S.Australia vk5bcb@seol.net.au --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 11:02:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA27004 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:02:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:00:07 -0400 (EDT) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: Help TH-D7A To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Try using a null modem to exchange RX and TX. There was confusion as to which wire coming out of the Kenwood was which. The instructions are good, but confusing. It is easy to tell, actually. Put a meter on one of the wires and turn the TNC function on. It should move the meter needle some if you are on the TNC 'output' lead and should not move the meter needle at all if it is the tnc 'input' lead. The lead that moves the needle needs to go to RX on the computer and the other needs to go to TX on the computer. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Dr Kevin Johnston wrote: > Greetings from Australia, > > I would welcome some assistance and advice. > > I have just purchased a THD7A and VCH1 here in Australia. Unfortunately > the dealer support is less than ideal compared to US. > > Also the Kenwood interface leads, including the PG-4W ( ht to PC) lead > are not available yet in VK. > > I have source the B-version of the MCP-D7 from the internet and have > this installed. > > I have made a home-brew lead using the protocol on page 53 of the > instruction manual using three leads only GND, TXD and RXD. > > MY PROBLEM IS THAT THE MCP-D7 SOFTWARE (AND ALL MY USUAL TNC TERMINAL > PROGRAMS) cannot recognise the TNC?? They default or time out. > > Qs. > > Do I need to cross connect other leads in the DB9 plug at the PC end > apart from the three data leads? > > Do I have to enable the data link from within the menu in the TH-7DA > before the link will work? > > > Any suggestions gratefully received here. Its hard running something > new in a small Australian country town > > Thanks > > Kevin VK5KJ Mount Gambier S.Australia > vk5bcb@seol.net.au > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 11:23:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA27442 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:23:09 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 09:22:18 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 Docs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have come to understand that the PC cable option for the TH-D7, which is not currently available, comes with a CD-ROM which has extended documentation for the D7 in PDF format. These documents cover much more than what is in the user manual that comes with the rig and answers many of the questions that appear on this sig. Is there someone here that has access to that CD-ROM who would post those files where they can be down loaded? Or, If you could forward them to me, I will put them on an FTP site. I would hope that a case could be made that the purchase price of the option is for the cables and that there would be no copyright infringement by distributing the accompanying documentation. 73 Clark N7AAC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 11:52:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA27938 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:52:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 23:48:33 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Docs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990925234826.006d113c@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk You are correct. There is a CD and cable available and it is available to the general ham community if you don't mind waiting. I ordered mine from AES and it took the better part of a month to get it. But it was worth the wait! As far as posting the contents, they are copyrighted and Kenwood, if I remember correctly, has said that the contents are on their ftp site. I could not find the previous post on this matter. Does anyone else has the post about the contents of the elusive CD rom contents? 73 Gary At 09:22 AM 09/26/1999 -0700, you wrote: >I have come to understand that the PC cable option for the TH-D7, >which is not currently available, comes with a CD-ROM which has >extended documentation for the D7 in PDF format. These documents >cover much more than what is in the user manual that comes with the >rig and answers many of the questions that appear on this sig. > >Is there someone here that has access to that CD-ROM who would post >those files where they can be down loaded? Or, If you could forward >them to me, I will put them on an FTP site. > >I would hope that a case could be made that the purchase price of the >option is for the cables and that there would be no copyright >infringement by distributing the accompanying documentation. > >73 > >Clark N7AAC > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: railfan@flash.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 15:51:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA04746 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:51:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:43:26 -0500 From: Jim Duncan Reply-To: ku0g@kcaprs.org X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7 MARS/ETC MODS... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EE856E.6C0332AE@kcaprs.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Could somebody give me a URL or other information to open the D7 up for out of band xmit/rcv? Thanks! PRIVATE, OFF LIST, PLEASE... -- 73 de Jim, KU0G Chairman/Coordinator Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR First Alert Storm Team -- KMBC-TV Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 15:58:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA04972 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:58:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:50:53 -0500 From: Jim Duncan Reply-To: ku0g@kcaprs.org X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Never mind..... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EE872D.92BC8E6A@kcaprs.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I found Walter Dunckel's page with the information......Thanks anyways... -- 73 de Jim, KU0G Chairman/Coordinator Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR First Alert Storm Team -- KMBC-TV Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 20:01:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA11568 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:00:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:53:47 -0500 From: Jim Duncan Reply-To: ku0g@kcaprs.org X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Egad!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EEC01B.CEA04C4E@kcaprs.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Got the mod done today. Now, after the reset, the channel step is set to 12.5 kHz. I can't find my bloody manual....How do you change the frequency step size? Please.....Thank you.... -- 73 de Jim, KU0G Chairman/Coordinator Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR First Alert Storm Team -- KMBC-TV Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Sep 26 21:07:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA13148 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:07:48 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:05:47 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Egad!!!! Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In the F-8 menu. It won't show unless you are in VFO mode for that band. >Got the mod done today. Now, after the reset, the channel step is set >to 12.5 kHz. I can't find my bloody manual....How do you change the >frequency step size? Please.....Thank you.... >-- >73 de Jim, KU0G >Chairman/Coordinator >Kansas City APRS Working Group, W0APR >First Alert Storm Team -- KMBC-TV >Mailto:ku0g@kcaprs.org >Webpage: http://www.kcaprs.org > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n7aac@aztenx.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Clark Lowry N7AAC N7AAC@aztenx.org Founding Member: Spook Hill Amateur Radio Club (SHARC) Founding Member: Arizona Desert 10-10 Chapter #06F 10-10 International #68954 10226 E. Iris Rd. Yaesu FT-920 W/100-600 Watts HF+6m Mesa, Maricopa County ICOM IC-706, IC-2350, IC-W32A, IC-T21A, Arizona, 85207 DM43 Kenwood TM-V7 Remote base, TH-D7A Tracker 72 ft tower, 4-element RAIBEAM on 10m 480-354-9300 2-element Raibeam on 20m 602-619-5007 Cell 7-element Force 12 on 6m, 26B2 on 2m, 800.880.3896 Toll Free AN-99 on 10m Half Square on 6m 602-530-2400 Fax Lazy "Z" Windom for 80 thru 6 meters Check out our Web site at http://www.aztenx.org Sign our guestbook ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 00:02:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA24833 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:01:57 -0500 (CDT) From: kb3cul@qsl.net (Joel H. Gough) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] test msg Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 04:53:16 GMT Reply-To: halleck@home.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37eef7ba.727148994@mail> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Sorry to waste the bandwidth, just trying to figure out why I haven't gotten anything from the SIG in about a week... Joel kb3cul --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 01:21:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id BAA26470 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 01:21:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 23:20:00 -0700 From: Walter Dunckel X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7 Docs References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EF0C90.528A0EB5@best.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" For those of you that are interested in what is included in the manual that comes with the factory cable, I have included a list of its contents at this site: http://www.radiohound.com/manual.htm Walter "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" wrote: > I have come to understand that the PC cable option for the TH-D7, > which is not currently available, comes with a CD-ROM which has > extended documentation for the D7 in PDF format. These documents > cover much more than what is in the user manual that comes with the > rig and answers many of the questions that appear on this sig. > > Is there someone here that has access to that CD-ROM who would post > those files where they can be down loaded? Or, If you could forward > them to me, I will put them on an FTP site. > > I would hope that a case could be made that the purchase price of the > option is for the cables and that there would be no copyright > infringement by distributing the accompanying documentation. > > 73 > > Clark N7AAC --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 08:24:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA14365 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:24:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:21:14 -0500 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: "other" icon settings on D7A References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EF6F4A.C2FA379F@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk When I got my D7, I set the icon to a bike. After beaconing the "bike" icon out for a while, I found out by watching it on my home computer that is isn't really a bike but a motorcycke icon. I had to go to the "other" icons to get the bike. Skip K9SA John Sullivan wrote: > > I haven't seen an answer to this yet. Haven't seen much traffic at all > on the list this week, for that matter, > > The D7 manual is a little sketchy on this function, but its not hard > to figure out. The only trick is that you can't use the number keypad > to enter the code, just the cursor control. Select "others" from the > icon menu and scroll until you have the two-character icon code that > you want. > > If you need a list of assigned symbols, the symbols.txt file which is > included in the AprsDos documentation is a good source. This may be > the extra information that you would get in the data cable manual. > > 73 de John WD6BTP > > > From: "Neil ke6ncx" > > To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" > > Subject: [htaprs] "other" icon settings on D7A > > Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 12:52:06 PDT > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > > List-Unsubscribe: > > List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 > > List-Subscribe: > > List-Owner: > > X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio > > X-Message-Id: <19990920195206.24025.qmail@hotmail.com> > > Sender: bounce-htaprs-8758@lists.tapr.org > > Precedence: bulk > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Content-Length: 816 > > > > I'm back on the list after being away for a few months. > > > > Can anyone explain to me how to set the D7A for "other" icons? The manual > > says that info is in a file on the disc that comes with the optional data > > cable. The optional data cable wan't yet on the market when I wanted to buy > > it, though it may be now. But it seems silly to buy the cable (when I now > > have another cable working just fine) just to get info they should have put > > in the manual. > > > > Neil Fullagar, KE6NCX > > Training Officer > > Alameda County (CA) Sheriff's Communications Team (RACES) > > ke6ncx@arrl.net > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: Skip.Allison@motorola.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 08:56:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA15268 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:56:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:53:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] New Kenwood APRS Radio Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Kenwoods APRS (PACSAT) Moble Radio At DCC, Kenwood informally revealed a prototype APRS Mobile (PACSAT) radio. This was a courtesy demo only. The radio does not yet exist, so do them a favor and DO NOT PESTER YOUR KENWOOD DEALERS until Christmas. The radio looks like TM-V7 but with a larger orange screen. It appears to have the following interesting characteristics: - All THD7 features plus dozens of enhancements - FUll front panel text message send-receive (like THD7) - 9600 baud Pacsat capable. crossband TNC. With KISS - Full front panel general packet monitor display (See scrolling packets on any channel, not just APRS) - All band rcv 118 MHz to 1300 MHZ, (optimized only in HAM bands) - Remote control head (always) I will have one of these at the AMSAT conference and will discuss the pro's and con's of mobile two-way FRONT PANEL APRS communications via the 9600 baud PACSATS (No laptop needed!)... The receiver is very good. I wonder what the minimum gain antenna will be for a reasonable downlink...? We did a test on the roof parking lot and got near full scale readings from UO22 with a handheld 3el yagi. de WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 09:11:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id JAA15730 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:11:56 -0500 (CDT) Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:07:12 +0200 From: "Schayk A.H. van" Subject: [htaprs] RE: New Kenwood APRS Radio To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <710E1F0BA36DD211893E0008C71C6466083889@triton> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi bob and others, this sounds like the demo model i saw at the Mannheim ukwtagung a week ago. I'm glad to read that kenwood didn't wait to long to show it over there :) It looked like a very nice radio indeed. they quoted a delivery date for europe of february next year (at the same time as the th-d7e upgrade) i wonder if the got the tnc DAMA ready because that was a big letdown for many area's in europe 73 de Andre PE1RDW ps why was there so litle response when i wrote about this radio last week? > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Bob Bruninga [SMTP:bruninga@nadn.navy.mil] > Verzonden: maandag 27 september 1999 15:53 > Aan: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Onderwerp: [htaprs] New Kenwood APRS Radio > > Kenwoods APRS (PACSAT) Moble Radio > > At DCC, Kenwood informally revealed a prototype APRS Mobile (PACSAT) > radio. This was a courtesy demo only. The radio does not yet exist, so > do them a favor and DO NOT PESTER YOUR KENWOOD DEALERS until Christmas. > The radio looks like TM-V7 but with a larger orange screen. It > appears to have the following interesting characteristics: > - All THD7 features plus dozens of enhancements > - FUll front panel text message send-receive (like THD7) > - 9600 baud Pacsat capable. crossband TNC. With KISS > - Full front panel general packet monitor display (See scrolling > packets on any channel, not just APRS) > - All band rcv 118 MHz to 1300 MHZ, (optimized only in HAM bands) > - Remote control head (always) > > I will have one of these at the AMSAT conference and will discuss the > pro's and con's of mobile two-way FRONT PANEL APRS communications via > the 9600 baud PACSATS (No laptop needed!)... > > The receiver is very good. I wonder what the minimum gain antenna will be > for a reasonable downlink...? We did a test on the roof parking lot and > got near full scale readings from UO22 with a handheld 3el yagi. > > de WB4APR > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: A.H.Schayk@arcadis.nl > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 10:59:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA19299 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:59:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:59:03 -0400 From: Jean Paul Pierrepont X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: WIN CE APRS???? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EF8637.A3AF33C0@kconline.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Hi all I have a HP660 palmtop and just heard of a APRS program being released for it.. Anybody know of it?? Thanks Paul KB9AVO --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 11:15:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id LAA20017 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:15:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Brown, Russell R" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7 upgrade? Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:12:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk PE1RDW said re the Kenwood APRS Mobile: > they quoted a delivery date for europe of february next year (at the same > time as the th-d7e upgrade) Can we hear more about the TH-D7 upgrade? Any TH-D7A upgrade rumors, anyone? Russ Brown, KB6LUD --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 15:29:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA28582 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:29:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:25:45 -0500 From: Skip Allison X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7/Garmin GPS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37EFD2C9.416BC77F@email.mot.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I remember hearing that the D7 will talk to some of the Garmin GPS receivers and display calls as waypoints. Which Garmins does that work with? I'm thinking about getting a new 12XL. Will it support that feature? How about the color one - 12CX I think? Skip K9SA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 15:35:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA28720 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:35:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [htaprs] Re: New Kenwood APRS Radio Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:32:36 -0400 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 9/27/99 9:53 AM, Bob Bruninga (bruninga@nadn.navy.mil) passed this wisdom: >Kenwoods APRS (PACSAT) Moble Radio > >At DCC, Kenwood informally revealed a prototype APRS Mobile (PACSAT) >radio. This was a courtesy demo only. The radio does not yet exist, so >do them a favor and DO NOT PESTER YOUR KENWOOD DEALERS until Christmas. Bob, any idea, what the price tag will be ??? $500 ??? $800 ??????? [snip] >The receiver is very good. I wonder what the minimum gain antenna will be >for a reasonable downlink...? We did a test on the roof parking lot and >got near full scale readings from UO22 with a handheld 3el yagi. > > de WB4APR Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn." -Alvin Toffler --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 19:25:32 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA07177 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:25:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:23:11 -0400 From: John Vause Reply-To: jdv@iglou.com Organization: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy - Charter Member X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7/Garmin GPS References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37F00A6F.34396959@iglou.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The Kenwood TH-D7A works fine with the Garmin 12xl/12cx GPS receivers. 73 Skip Allison wrote: > > I remember hearing that the D7 will talk to some of the Garmin GPS > receivers and display calls as waypoints. Which Garmins does that > work with? I'm thinking about getting a new 12XL. Will it support > that feature? How about the color one - 12CX I think? > > Skip > K9SA > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: JDV@IGLOU.COM > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- * John Vause KF4ERV jdv@igloudot.com * NOTE: email address altered for benefit of Spambots -- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 19:48:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA07703 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:48:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:45:36 Subject: [htaprs] CD Info To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Morris Hays" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Clark Lowery Wrote: << I have come to understand that the PC cable option for the TH-D7, which is not currently available, comes with a CD-ROM which has extended documentation for the D7 in PDF format. These documents cover much more than what is in the user manual that comes with the rig and answers many of the questions that appear on this sig. >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I too would like to get ahold of this information on theCD but without the cable or other PC software that is included. I have a macintosh and can't see spending money on a bunch of stuff I can't use. I have pleaded my case to Kenwood and beg any other people who find themselves in this situation to send Email to them also asking that if they wont put it up for download at least offer it as a stand alone purchase. Kell KB1DZN --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Sep 27 20:03:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA08046 for ; Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:03:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: New Kenwood APRS Radio Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 21:00:52 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Even if anyone knows what the price is going to be since it has not been approved by the FCC for sale or lease there can be announcment of the rprice. Its a neat radio though. I got to fiddle with it a bit over the weekend at DCC. My guess on price would be about $500-600. We'll see in a few months. 73 Paul KR4YL just back from Phoenix .... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 28 07:55:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id HAA10960 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:55:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: From: "Mike Kappes" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] List Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:51:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF098E.B900B2E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001101bf09c9$667540a0$dcaa51d1@n4amh> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF098E.B900B2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How do I join this list? 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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01BF098E.B900B2E0-- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 28 10:37:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA16010 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:37:02 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:36:26 Subject: [htaprs] "other" icon setings on D7A - the truth revealed at last To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Neil Fullagar" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Well, as one person wrote, it's really pretty easy to figure out. Just scroll to "others" and accept that, then scroll through the possible characters and accept the one you want, then select which table (/ or \.) I had, in fact, figured that out for myself. But I didn't think it worked, so I thought there was something more I needed to do. Why didn't I think it worked...? Because no matter what I selected on the D7A, except /O which did display as a balloon, the D7A always shwed on my WinAPRS screen as a red dot. So I thought something was not right with the D7A. After I heard from other people that the D7A showed on their screens as the right thing, I tried an experiment. I opened a TCP/IP connection from my home station (WinAPRS) and turned off the TNC. Thus my home station would not heard the D7A directly, but would get it through one or more other stations. Bingo, everything displays fine! Apparently... well, I'm not sure but it looks like the WinAPRS does't correctly interpret the icon codes from the short format packet used by the D7A when the packets ae heard directly. Weird, but... Thanks to those who tried to help. Neil Fullagar KE6NCX --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 28 14:51:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id OAA25349 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 14:51:10 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:47:43 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: New Kenwood APRS Radio Cc: APRS Special Intrest Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bob, If the Manchester mod is only $3.00 on our end then it must be less than 30 cents in quantity for Kenwood. Will the new Kenwood rig support what you are working so hard on with the Satallites? At 09:53 -0400 9/27/99, Bob Bruninga wrote: >Kenwoods APRS (PACSAT) Moble Radio > >At DCC, Kenwood informally revealed a prototype APRS Mobile (PACSAT) >radio. This was a courtesy demo only. The radio does not yet exist, so >do them a favor and DO NOT PESTER YOUR KENWOOD DEALERS until Christmas. >The radio looks like TM-V7 but with a larger orange screen. It >appears to have the following interesting characteristics: > - All THD7 features plus dozens of enhancements > - FUll front panel text message send-receive (like THD7) > - 9600 baud Pacsat capable. crossband TNC. With KISS > - Full front panel general packet monitor display (See scrolling > packets on any channel, not just APRS) > - All band rcv 118 MHz to 1300 MHZ, (optimized only in HAM bands) > - Remote control head (always) > >I will have one of these at the AMSAT conference and will discuss the >pro's and con's of mobile two-way FRONT PANEL APRS communications via >the 9600 baud PACSATS (No laptop needed!)... > >The receiver is very good. I wonder what the minimum gain antenna will be >for a reasonable downlink...? We did a test on the roof parking lot and >got near full scale readings from UO22 with a handheld 3el yagi. > > de WB4APR > > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n7aac@aztenx.org >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Clark Lowry N7AAC N7AAC@aztenx.org Founding Member: Spook Hill Amateur Radio Club (SHARC) Founding Member: Arizona Desert 10-10 Chapter #06F 10-10 International #68954 10226 E. Iris Rd. Yaesu FT-920 W/100-600 Watts HF+6m Mesa, Maricopa County ICOM IC-706, IC-2350, IC-W32A, IC-T21A, Arizona, 85207 DM43 Kenwood TM-V7 Remote base, TH-D7A Tracker 72 ft tower, 4-element RAIBEAM on 10m 480-354-9300 2-element Raibeam on 20m 602-619-5007 Cell 7-element Force 12 on 6m, 26B2 on 2m, 800.880.3896 Toll Free AN-99 on 10m Half Square on 6m 602-530-2400 Fax Lazy "Z" Windom for 80 thru 6 meters Check out our Web site at http://www.aztenx.org Sign our guestbook ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Sep 28 20:17:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA07511 for ; Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:17:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:16:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , APRS Special Intrest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: New Kenwood APRS Radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Clark A. Lowry N7AAC wrote: > If the Manchester mod is only $3.00 on our end then it must be less > than 30 cents in quantity for Kenwood. Will the new Kenwood rig > support what you are working so hard on with the Satallites? No, it will not. THey are using an existing manufactured TNC chip, and just like the KPC-3, PK232 and most other TNC's that are not TAPR-2 clones, they do not have a phase synchronous 1200 baud clock. Again, the options are: 1) Any PSK PACSAT modem/TNC 2) Any TAPR-2 Clone TNC (MFJ, Paccomm, DRSI, etc) 3) Any PC SOund card (once someone writes the software) 4) Any PC (really doesnt need a sound card eitther, since square waves are OK. This software has not been written yet either People are working on #3 and #4. Remember, the interest in supporting these old 1200 baud satellites was *zero* until only a few weeks ago when interest in using them for APRS began to finally materialize. Although #4 can TRANSMIT, it will not be able to receive without the sound card. I list #4, because of old 286 mobile laptops out there. I dont want to have to carry a $4000 Laptop to do the job of a $20 286 PC, or a $2 mod to an old TNC just for transmit... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 00:06:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id AAA21335 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 00:06:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: X-Sender: rparry@jittlov.qualcomm.com Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:04:04 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Richard Parry Subject: [htaprs] Re: New Kenwood APRS Radio In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990928220210.00b323c0@jittlov.qualcomm.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Given that the D7 is $450, I would think the price is going to be closer to $700. I also was at the DCC and saw the radio. The detachable head and large display certainly support a price much higher than the D7. my 2 cents. At 09:00 PM 9/27/99 -0400, Paul Knupke, Jr. wrote: >Even if anyone knows what the price is going to be since it has not been >approved by the FCC for sale or lease there can be announcment of the >rprice. > >Its a neat radio though. I got to fiddle with it a bit over the weekend at >DCC. > >My guess on price would be about $500-600. We'll see in a few months. > >73 >Paul >KR4YL >just back from Phoenix .... > > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: rparry@qualcomm.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --------------- Rich Parry, W9IF - Qualcomm, Inc. Globalstar User Terminal System Test --------------- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 02:48:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id CAA24177 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 02:48:17 -0500 (CDT) Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:41:58 +0200 From: "Schayk A.H. van" Subject: [htaprs] European aprs frequentie (iaru conference) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <710E1F0BA36DD211893E0008C71C6466083891@triton> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi I just got this info from paul pa0son who was at the last iaru region 1 conference They couldn't come up with 1 common frequentie to use across region 1 so we have 2 frequenties 1) 144.8000. used in the uk and will most likely be used in the netherlands belgium germany and some other country's 2) 144.8125. this will be used in country's where 144.8000 is already given away for some other packet that can't be realocated. I'll get back to you when i know more (date of activation and list off country's with their frequenties). 73 de Andre PE1RDW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 08:27:45 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id IAA10378 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:27:42 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] going to columbus/cincinatti steve scott Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 06:28:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000501bf0a7e$77dea420$1bba31cf@kd8s> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk hi sig group well have not been on APRs with my TH-D7 lately. When I go to APRs mode sometimes it sticks in xmit mode, other times it wont let me even turn if off without removing the battery pack. my warranty runs out next month so I guess I should once again return it to kenwood. the last upgrade fix to make the Magellan meridian xl worked out great. all of us involved in APRs in the Las Vegas area try to promote APRs. anyone coming to vacation or whatever in Las Vegas, let us know on the sig. 73 Steve Scott KD8S find me on a map+ACE- go to www.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 15:55:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id PAA23640 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:55:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:53:40 -0400 From: Dave Armbrust Reply-To: ae4mr@iasonline.com Organization: Insurance Agency Systems, Inc. X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: New Kenwood APRS Radio References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37F27C54.F8406CC1@iasonline.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Richard Parry wrote: > Given that the D7 is $450, I would think the price is going to be closer to > $700. I also was at the DCC and saw the radio. The detachable head and > large display certainly support a price much higher than the D7. > I hope Kenwood does not read this group looking for price suggestions!!! I think a $700 price tag would put it on many wish lists but Kenwood would not sell many units at this price. $450 for the D7 is reasonable. $470 for the Kenwood V7A is reasonable. $700 for the new radio is too much. I have said for almost a year now that I will buy this unit as soon as it hits the streets. At $700 I would reconsider. It needs to be around $600 or less for it to sell as well as the D7 has done. At $600 I will buy one and show it off all I can and try to convince others to get one too. At $700 I think I will wait for others to try to convince me! Detachable head is pretty standard for most mobiles as it is a necessity in many vehicles. Large display is needed because of the distance you are reading the display from. Neither item would justify a $700 price tag! my 2 cents. -- Dave Armbrust mailto:ae4mr@arrl.net (941)923-1688 Fax: (941)929-0040 Where am I? http://map.aprs.net:8000/ae4mr-9 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 16:28:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id QAA24805 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:28:08 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: pat-pythagoras@SanMateo01.pop.internex.net Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:31:02 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: pathardy@pythagoras.org (Pat Hardy) Subject: [htaprs] Re: New Kenwood APRS Radio List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Richard Parry wrote -- >Given that the D7 is $450, I would think the price is going to be closer to >$700. I also was at the DCC and saw the radio. The detachable head and >large display certainly support a price much higher than the D7. > >my 2 cents. > My own 2 cents: with HTs one pays a high cost for miniaturization and efficiency of power utilization. A mobile rig doesn't have to sit on your belt without pulling down your pants and it doesn't have to do its thing all day on a handful of NiCds. Feature for feature, I would therefore expect a mobile unit to be cheaper than an HT...the power amplifier is probably responsible for the extra cost. So $450 for an HT doesn't _necessarily_ mean $700 for the mobile. Admittedly I haven't seen this mobile! I have the TH-D7A and I like it. Being in a two-ham household and both having an interest in satellites (my own was sparked by the D7A and MIR) we will look over the new radio carefully when it arrives. Pat Hardy, ke6wdr --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 20:06:06 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id UAA00489 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:06:01 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:5:49 Subject: [htaprs] Re: "other" icon setings on D7A - the truth revealed at last To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Mike Riffle" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk On 09/28/99, ""Neil Fullagar" " wrote: > Because no matter what I selected on the D7A, except /O which did display as a balloon, the D7A always shwed on my WinAPRS screen as a red dot. So I thought something was not right with the D7A. I have noticed the same problem with my D7. The CSU-ARC JavAPRS website(http://radio.artsfac.csuohio.edu/javaprs/ohio.html) always displays my posit as a red dot or DF triangle while I am at my QTH. I did some experimenting today and here is what I found. First off, here is a quote from the symbols.txt in the APRSdos package “The character after the latitude ‘N/S’ in an APRS position report is a TABLE character and the character following the longitude ‘E/W’ is the APRS symbol character”. Keeping that in mind take a look at some D7 posits received at the CSU site: House icon KC8MZM>APRS,RELAY*,N8LXY-10,KB8GVQ-10:@292345z4108.26N/08131.79W/017/000/E>dsy/M0/Off duty.. kc8mzm@qsl.net Kenwood icon KC8MZM>APRS,RELAY*,N8LXY-10,KB8GVQ-10:@300024z4108.26N/08131.79W\047/000/E>dsy/M0/Off duty.. kc8mzm@qsl.net Car icon N8VNR-6>APRS,K8TIH,KB8GVQ-13*,WIDE:@234717h4121.80N/08344.20W>000/000MIC/M0/Off duty..>TH-D7 no GPS If you look at my posits you will see the character following the latitude is a / (as it is with all my posits). The character after the longitude is what I have determined to be the TABLE character (either a / or \). This is not the way it should be according to the symbols.txt file. I should also mention that the JavAPRS application interprets the 017 and 047 characters following the longitude as headings - I can only assume that Kenwood meant those to be the icon. Now look at the N8VNR posit and you will see it is formatted correctly. The only difference I can see is my posits are being received via relay while VNR's are being received via a digi. Does a digi convert the posits to the correct format? If so, how? Or is there something wrong with my D7? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 21:56:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id VAA04225 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:56:34 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.nadn.navy.mil: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:53:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Mic-E conversions. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > ... no matter what I selected on the D7A, except /O which did > display as a balloon, the D7A always shwed ... as a red dot... > KC8MZM>APRS,RELAY*,N8LXY-10,KB8GVQ-10:@292345z4108.26N/08131.79W/ > 017/000/E>dsy/M0/Off duty.. kc8mzm@qsl.net Notice that this is a Mic-E expanded packet. See the E>dsy in the comment field. This tells us that this packet was expaneded by WA4DSY's Linux IGate software. We need to feed this bug report to him... I will forward it to him... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Sep 29 22:23:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id WAA05018 for ; Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:23:13 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:20:05 -0400 From: Jon Anhold To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: "other" icon setings on D7A - the truth revealed at last Message-ID: Reply-To: jon@snoopy.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Riffle on Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 08:05:49PM +0000 X-No-Archive: yes X-Clue: procmail+cluehack autofilters non-cluefull mail. X-PGP-Fingerprint: C4 C5 CE 7B 2A F6 2F 61 A1 23 6C 73 3A BC 5B 13 X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by snoopy.net id XAA12892 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990929232005.P26128@snoopy.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id WAA05018 As one of the folks responsible for the CSU-ARC JavAPRS server, and a D7A owner, let me share what I have found. The IGATE software uncompresses MIC-E encoded packets. (Watch on-air and they look _much_ different). For some reason, the current version (or at least the version we are running at CSU) doesn't quite uncompress them accurately, and one thing that _definately_ gets munged is the icon. This isn't necessarily a problem with your D7A, at least I haven't seen it with mine. 73 de N8USK -Jon Previously, Mike Riffle (kc8mzm@qsl.net) said: > On 09/28/99, ""Neil Fullagar" " wrote: > > Because no matter what I selected on the D7A, except /O which did display > as a balloon, the D7A always shwed on my WinAPRS screen as a red dot. So I > thought something was not right with the D7A. > > I have noticed the same problem with my D7. The CSU-ARC JavAPRS > website(http://radio.artsfac.csuohio.edu/javaprs/ohio.html) always displays > my posit as a red dot or DF triangle while I am at my QTH. > > I did some experimenting today and here is what I found. First off, here is > a quote from the symbols.txt in the APRSdos package “The character after > the latitude ‘N/S’ in an APRS position report is a TABLE character and the > character following the longitude ‘E/W’ is the APRS symbol character”. > Keeping that in mind take a look at some D7 posits received at the CSU > site: > > House icon > KC8MZM>APRS,RELAY*,N8LXY-10,KB8GVQ-10:@292345z4108.26N/08131.79W/017/000/E>dsy/M0/Off > duty.. kc8mzm@qsl.net > > Kenwood icon > KC8MZM>APRS,RELAY*,N8LXY-10,KB8GVQ-10:@300024z4108.26N/08131.79W\047/000/E>dsy/M0/Off > duty.. kc8mzm@qsl.net > > Car icon > N8VNR-6>APRS,K8TIH,KB8GVQ-13*,WIDE:@234717h4121.80N/08344.20W>000/000MIC/M0/Off > duty..>TH-D7 no GPS > > If you look at my posits you will see the character following the latitude > is a / (as it is with all my posits). The character after the longitude is > what I have determined to be the TABLE character (either a / or \). This is > not the way it should be according to the symbols.txt file. I should also > mention that the JavAPRS application interprets the 017 and 047 characters > following the longitude as headings - I can only assume that Kenwood meant > those to be the icon. > > Now look at the N8VNR posit and you will see it is formatted correctly. The > only difference I can see is my posits are being received via relay while > VNR's are being received via a digi. Does a digi convert the posits to the > correct format? If so, how? Or is there something wrong with my D7? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jon@snoopy.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- "Hope is a letter that never arrives, delivered by the postman of my fear." - 'Tired of Me', Live --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 30 10:01:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id KAA06817 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:01:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] magellan meridian xl thd-7 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:02:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002101bf0b54$c65b64e0$27ba31cf@kd8s> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I received a lot of e mail from hams with the thd-7 and the Magellan meridian xl GPS. when I first got my new rig, November of 1998, me and a lot of others spent tons of hours trying to figure out why out nema outputs would not talk to the th-d7 as time went by, and thanks to this SIG, we found out about then need to return the rig to Kenwood service for a upgrade. those of you that e mail me, contact the company you purchased the rig from and find out how they want to handle the upgrade. I would just say send it back to Kenwood, but sometimes thats against the policy of the store that sold it to you, and they might even pay shipping , I don't know. its all based on serial numbers........but it is fixable. I use my gray meridian xl with the rig now since the firmware fix. there are also several web sites about the Kenwood thd-7 someone can go and list them again since there are so many and I did not save them in my favorites.... 73 find me on a map+ACE- go to www.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 30 17:19:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id RAA21400 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:19:25 -0500 (CDT) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: NMHotair@aol.com Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:07:36 MDT Subject: [htaprs] Server Down?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,5-10,13-14,16-17 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19990930.161758.-458689.4.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi folks We are getting ready for the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta and plan to have a 24/7 station on the balloon field broadcasting positions. However, as we warm up the computer we can't get any response from the server. Trying the same procedure at home also fails to get any data back. Anyone know what the status is? Jim Baremore PS Big worry is that I saw Steve driving to Phoenix for the DCC in an RV and wonder if he is taking a well deserved vacation on the way back to Florida and may not know the server is down... PSS Listen on HF for the N5B special events station from the Balloon Park. Also on APRS and 2 meters. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 30 18:49:33 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id SAA23592 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:49:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:49:11 -0400 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , NMHotair@aol.com Subject: [htaprs] Re: Server Down?? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <37F3E8E7.B480FF71@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Jim, I've heard thru the grape vine, here, that workers took out a hugh hunk of fibre optics while trenching!!! Could be several hours before restoration of service.. 73 Jim Baremore wrote: > > Hi folks > > We are getting ready for the Albuquerque Balloon Fiesta and plan to have > a 24/7 station on the balloon field broadcasting positions. However, as > we warm up the computer we can't get any response from the server. > Trying the same procedure at home also fails to get any data back. > > Anyone know what the status is? > > Jim Baremore > > PS Big worry is that I saw Steve driving to Phoenix for the DCC in an RV > and wonder if he is taking a well deserved vacation on the way back to > Florida and may not know the server is down... > > PSS Listen on HF for the N5B special events station from the Balloon > Park. Also on APRS and 2 meters. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Sep 30 19:15:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.10) with SMTP id TAA24235 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:15:17 -0500 (CDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:13:57 -0700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Clark A. Lowry N7AAC" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Server Down?? Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , NMHotair@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 18:49 -0400 9/30/99, Robbie Robertson wrote: >Hi Jim, > >I've heard thru the grape vine, here, that workers >took out a hugh hunk of fibre optics while >trenching!!! Could be several hours before >restoration of service.. The physical connections are fine and you can ping aprs.net. perhaps APRServe has locked up or they are having trouble switching to the linux box. I think Steve said that he had a new SGI box on order. Perhaps he should have just bought a new G4. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org