From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 1 16:35:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA11480 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 16:35:30 -0600 (CST) From: Jacobtennant@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:33:46 EST Subject: [htaprs] Handspring Visor & PocketAPRS To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <0.2358e186.2576fc4a@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Looking at getting either a Handspring Visor or Palm IIIe, in about 23 days and counting... Was wondering if the serial port situations on the Handspring Visor had been overcome or is it still a stumbling block as to the implementation of PocketAPRS connections to TNC/GPS system? Jacob Tennant,KB8QIR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 1 17:43:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA13695 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 1999 17:43:14 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1999 18:41:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group , htaprs@tapr.org, aprsnews@tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: KPC-3+ Analog In-Reply-To: <02ca01bf33d7$3892e740$0200a8c0@xemu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Dave VanHorn wrote about telemetry in the KPC-3+ > So 0 is undefined, 1 is volts, 2 is undef, 3 is temp, and 4 is undef? No, Five are available, because Kantronics uses 3 internally for other purposes. Here is a table of the default use of these 5 Analog telemetry inputs to the various APRS devices: KPC-3 MIM Mode Mic-E, Mic-Lite -------------- -------------- ------------------- AN0 Ext access AD0 User input AN0 Battery voltage AN1 Ext access AD1 User input AN1 SSID/Switch AN2 N/C AD2 User input AN2 Temperature AN3 N/C AD3 User input AN3 Rate Pot AN4 real time ck AD4 User input CHO (used as Channel Holdoff) AN5 N/C AD5 User input AD4 User Input. Note: Because of the large number of Mic-E's that use these 5 pins, I went ahead and defaulted the names on the TELEMETRY page to the labels shown for the Mic-E. But remember, these can be changed ON-THE-AIR by simply transmitting the correct definition packet. My recommendation for the KPC-3 is to move AN3 or AN5 to the external pin assigned to AN0, and then hook up AN0 internally to a 10k/2.4k voltage divider from the power input pin and hook up AN2 to a thermister as recommended in my MIC-TEMP.BAS program. Thus you will have Battery voltage, temperature and TWO more to play with externally using the existing pins... de WB4APR, Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 2 07:53:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA23076 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 07:53:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 7:52:59 Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood NEW TM-D700A To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Fred Halley Jr." List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Here's some information hot off the presses: Dear Kenwood Customer: Expecting it 12/99 or 1/2000, no price yet.. Thank you for your e-mail. The NEW , and Exciting TM-D700A 144/440 MHZ transceivers FEATURES 110-1300 MHZ RX (Cellular + Blocked) Detached front panel (included separation kit) Large Amber dot-matrix LCD display VHF/UHF or VHF/VHF, or UHF/UHF Built-in 1200/9600 bps TNC Built-in 9 pin PC connector Built-in APRS software (features added from the TH-D7A) Digipeater station capable Auto Message reply Audible message receive confirmation (callsign) with optional VS-3 64 character messaging from the new backlit alpha-numeric microphone Easy to use menu (same as the TH-D7A) 200 memory channels 8 Character alpha-numeric ID Up to 10 programmable scan banks Mute function Visual band scope DCS w/frequency ID scan (Digital Coded Squelch) CTCSS encode/decode DX Packet Cluster Monitoring VC-H1 operation functions (same as the TH-D7A) Cross-band repeat and remote control functions 1750 HZ tone-burst Sky Command operation with the TH-D7A or second TM-D700A (No PG-4R required) Programming software available via Internet/ requires PG-4S Plus many more features to numerous to mention. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 2 09:59:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA28408 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 09:59:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [198.144.110.103] Reply-To: ke6ncx@arrl.net From: "Neil ke6ncx" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] F7A xmit (near) failure Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 07:58:50 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19991202155851.52337.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Has anyone else experienced this? I had suspected for several weeks that something was wrong. I coud leave home in the car with the D7A beaconing, drive into San Francisco, and return to see only a few packets received at th home station and most if not all of those from when I was geting in our out of the car next to my house! By closing the TNC and setting the D7A to local repeater pairs I determined that it would not bring up a local 2m repeater using either "A" or "B", but would bring up a more distant 70cm repeater just fine. By comparison, a TH79A would bring up the local repeater (probably not full quieting, but this is a Q&D test) on the fractional-watt "EL" power setting. TNC open again, I confirmed that from right outside the house the D7A is heard (and packets sucessfully decoded) by the home station. So apparently it does xmit on 2m just with exceedingly low power. (And yes, that is true regardless of power setting. And interestingly enough, the LCD indicator seems to indicate full power even though it clearly isn't putting out as much as the 79A on EL.) I have not tried a full reset as I'm thinking this seems more like fried PA semiconductor or something than like firmware dementia, and I'd just as soon not kiss off the memory centents for nothing. Should I be packing the baby up and shipping to Kenwood, or does anybody have other good ideas? Neil Fullagar, KE6NCX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 2 10:49:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA00233 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:49:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [198.144.110.103] Reply-To: ke6ncx@arrl.net From: "Neil ke6ncx" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7A xmit (near) failure revisited Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 08:49:29 PST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19991202164929.19720.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Since two people in ten minutes have responded that it's probably the factory dummy load, which doesn't work on 2m, I guess I should have been more clear. I was using an external, roof mounted antenna with the D7A in the car. I had used the D7A quite happily for about a year, including APRS in the car, walk-around APRS with the factory dummy load, and 2m repeater and simplex phone with the dummy load. The current situation (mw xmit on 2m, OK on 70cm) is an abrupt change. In fact, in retrospect I can even narrow down when it happened, a few weeks ago during a 40 mile round-trip into San Francisco. (My home station showed my track on the way there, and not on the way home...) Thanks. Neil KE6NCX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 2 11:31:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA02091 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 11:31:51 -0600 (CST) From: "Rob Wittner" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] APRS/CE System Requirements Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:32:20 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Lots of folks have written to me asking if APRS/CE will run on this or that particular CE machine, so let me spell out the machine requirements. I should have included this in the first place, but I forgot... oops. I have been testing this on the following machines: - HP 320LX (H/PC) . CE v2.0 . 2-bit (4 shades) grayscale (landscape) - Casio E-11 (P/PC) . CE v2.01 . 4-bit (16 shades) grayscale (portrait) - HP Jornada 420 (P/PC) . CE v2.11 . 8-bit (256 colors) and 16-bit (64K colors) color (portrait) - Casio E-100 (P/PC) [My personal favorite, this week.] . CE v2.11 . 16-bit (64K colors) color (portrait) The icons are readable under 4-shade grayscale (2-bit), and even better under 16-shade (4-bit). I've limited the icons to the standard 16 system colors, and they look (IMNSHO) very nice on the color displays. For grayscale machines, map colors are mapped to the closest shade of gray available on the box. I haven't seen a case where any lines "disappeared" because they were the same color as the background, but I learned long ago to never say never. I'm waiting for the next release of the AutoPC SDK, which should have support for MFC. When it arrives, you'll be able to run APRS/CE on your in-dash unit! (This is something I'm really looking forward to.) In short, with the exception of the AutoPC, if you have a v2.0 or later CE machine, you're in business. More later... 73 -Rob KZ5RW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 2 17:37:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA13663 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:37:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Richard \"Flip\" Minton" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: D7A xmit (near) failure revisited Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 17:36:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <007501bf3d1e$20e5af60$0100a8c0@flip> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The same thing has happened here with a new unit. It worked for about 2 or 3 weeks, and on a recent trip this past weekend the output died. Confirmed with a watt meter. I have no idea why, the antenna in use was fine. Flip Minton N9AZZ fminton@midwest.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Neil ke6ncx To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 10:49 AM Subject: [htaprs] D7A xmit (near) failure revisited > > Since two people in ten minutes have responded that it's probably the > factory dummy load, which doesn't work on 2m, I guess I should have been > more clear. > > I was using an external, roof mounted antenna with the D7A in the car. > > I had used the D7A quite happily for about a year, including APRS in the > car, walk-around APRS with the factory dummy load, and 2m repeater and > simplex phone with the dummy load. The current situation (mw xmit on 2m, OK > on 70cm) is an abrupt change. > > In fact, in retrospect I can even narrow down when it happened, a few weeks > ago during a 40 mile round-trip into San Francisco. (My home station showed > my track on the way there, and not on the way home...) > > Thanks. > > Neil KE6NCX > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: fminton@midwest.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 3 19:20:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA15581 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 1999 19:20:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 18:20:33 -0700 From: "Larry (Woody) Bateman" X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: F7A xmit (near) failure References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38486C61.F9E5F5A1@micron.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Neil....I have had the same thing happen with two of my three D7A's. After the return of the first one I was told by the techs at kenwood that D30 was blown. They say that the antenna was the most probable cause. Since the stock antenna was the only antenna used on that radio I would say their antenna is then the cause. The second radio is now at kenwood for repair. I sent the antenna with the radio this time and asked them to check the antenna. Neil ke6ncx wrote: > Has anyone else experienced this? > > I had suspected for several weeks that something was wrong. I coud leave > home in the car with the D7A beaconing, drive into San Francisco, and return > to see only a few packets received at th home station and most if not all of > those from when I was geting in our out of the car next to my house! > > By closing the TNC and setting the D7A to local repeater pairs I determined > that it would not bring up a local 2m repeater using either "A" or "B", but > would bring up a more distant 70cm repeater just fine. By comparison, a > TH79A would bring up the local repeater (probably not full quieting, but > this is a Q&D test) on the fractional-watt "EL" power setting. > ======================================================================= Larry (Woody) Bateman Amatuer callsign: KB7WWP Web Page: http://netnow.micron.net/~lwoody Email: lwoody@micron.net Where am I? My Home-------http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp My Truck------http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp-14 My Hangglider-http://maps.aprs.net/kb7wwp-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 4 21:24:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA12445 for ; Sat, 4 Dec 1999 21:24:21 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] APRS Protocol Spec Final Draft Published! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1999 22:23:13 -0500 From: John Ackermann List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912050323.WAA12132@meow.febo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk =========================== APRS PROTOCOL SPECIFICATION =========================== TAPR announces release of the second public draft of the APRS Protocol Specification. ----------------------------------------------- It's finally here! The APRS Working Group has completed the second public draft of the APRS Protocol Specification. This document covers the core functionality of APRS Protocol Version 1.0 as it works today. This is the base level specification that all implementations should comply with, and it was unanimously adopted by the Working Group members, who include the authors of APRS-DOS, WinAPRS, MacAPRS, X-APRS, PocketAPRS, APRS+SA, javAPRS, and APRServe, and the developers of the Mic-E and Pic-E products. The Specification forms the basis for future Working Group projects, including APRS test suites and the APRS Certification Program. The WG also hopes to use this document as the basis for further speci- fications, including IGate and APRS digipeater operation. Over the last 8 weeks the specification has grown from 18 pages to 93. It now includes packet format diagrams, the APRS symbol tables, full details of the Mic-E encoded format, the compressed lat/long position format, plus weather report and telemetry formats. Above all, the specification contains many examples of how APRS data is formatted to make it easier to understand. The APRS Protocol Specification is now available on the APRS Working Group web page at: http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/Faprswg.html. It is available in PDF format, both zipped and unzipped. The zip file is a little under 1.5MB. You can read it with a PDF reader such as Adobe Acrobat 3 or 4. This document is still a draft. There will now be a 15-day public discussion period in which anyone may feed back comments, criticisms and suggestions for improvement. Full information on how to do this is contained within the document. The final cutoff for comment is midnight U.S. Pacific time on Sunday 19 December (i.e. 0800 UTC on Monday 20 December). After this date the Working Group will consider all the comments, and will issue the final approved version of the Specification as soon as possible thereafter. John Ackermann, N8UR (jra@febo.com) Administrative Chair APRS Working Group 4 December 1999 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 5 15:50:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA01431 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:50:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:49:56 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Jonathan Hanna Organization: Pangolin Systems From: Jonathan Hanna To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Yet another D7 control program List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912052149.NAA00378@cr1003333-a.crdva1.bc.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In attempting to learn TCL and a little about Ham radio, I have written an expectk script to control the TH-D7. This is a GUI for the D7 that runs on Unix and possibly any platform with expectk and a serial port. At the moment basic radio functions can be used but many things still need a lot of fleshing out, especially APRS. Not for the faint of heart, but I am not sure if I will be able to do any work on it in the near future. Feedback appreciated. The "tkd7" script and a screen-shot can be found at: http://www.qsl.net/ve7yjh/tkd7/ Jonathan Hanna --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 5 15:53:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA01508 for ; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 15:53:05 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 13:52:51 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Jonathan Hanna Organization: Pangolin Systems From: Jonathan Hanna To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Yet another D7 control program List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912052152.NAA00388@cr1003333-a.crdva1.bc.home.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Oops, sorry guys, in flailing around with network problems I resent an old message. Jonathan Hanna --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 6 01:38:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id BAA29833 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 1999 01:38:04 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "James Longley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: KPC-3+ Analog Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1999 20:29:33 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000201bf3fbc$84cb9800$563cc28e@charlesb> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I agree Bob I was very surprised that for the cost of a resistor Kantronics had not connected the supply voltage of the TNC to the correct Telemetry output. This would be very useful for not only APRS Digi but any remote Digi. The temperature sensor would be a nice addition to probable the most progressive TNC on the market. James VE7JMS -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bruninga To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: TAPR APRS Special Interest Group ; htaprs@tapr.org ; aprsnews@tapr.org Date: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 3:40 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: [aprssig] Re: KPC-3+ Analog >On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Dave VanHorn wrote about telemetry in the KPC-3+ > >> So 0 is undefined, 1 is volts, 2 is undef, 3 is temp, and 4 is undef? > >No, Five are available, because Kantronics uses 3 internally for other >purposes. Here is a table of the default use of these 5 Analog >telemetry inputs to the various APRS devices: > >KPC-3 MIM Mode Mic-E, Mic-Lite >-------------- -------------- ------------------- >AN0 Ext access AD0 User input AN0 Battery voltage >AN1 Ext access AD1 User input AN1 SSID/Switch >AN2 N/C AD2 User input AN2 Temperature >AN3 N/C AD3 User input AN3 Rate Pot >AN4 real time ck AD4 User input CHO (used as Channel Holdoff) >AN5 N/C AD5 User input AD4 User Input. > >Note: Because of the large number of Mic-E's that use these 5 >pins, I went ahead and defaulted the names on the TELEMETRY page to >the labels shown for the Mic-E. But remember, these can be changed >ON-THE-AIR by simply transmitting the correct definition packet. > >My recommendation for the KPC-3 is to move AN3 or AN5 to the external pin >assigned to AN0, and then hook up AN0 internally to a 10k/2.4k voltage >divider from the power input pin and hook up AN2 to a thermister as >recommended in my MIC-TEMP.BAS program. Thus you will have Battery >voltage, temperature and TWO more to play with externally using the >existing pins... > >de WB4APR, Bob > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 8 18:48:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA05215 for ; Wed, 8 Dec 1999 18:48:41 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: m-12739@mailbox.swipnet.se Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 01:46:54 +0100 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Gunnar Unger Subject: [htaprs] Headerline command Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991209014654.008ad8d0@mailbox.swipnet.se> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I cannot find a command similar to the HEADERLN ON/OFF, which puts a carriage return between the header line and text of monitored packets.Necessary for a proper reception of the unproto beacons from the BBS. Any hints, someone? Gunnar, SM5AAY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 9 02:45:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA24048 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 02:45:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:41:50 +0000 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Roger Barker Subject: [htaprs] Re: Headerline command References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In article , Gunnar Unger writes >I cannot find a command similar to the HEADERLN ON/OFF, which puts a >carriage return between the header line and text of monitored >packets.Necessary for a proper reception of the unproto beacons from the BBS. >Any hints, someone? There isn't one. I found that when I was testing a TH-D7 with WinPack. Another problem I found at the same time was that it appears very easy to overrun the input buffer in the internal TNC. So much so that to use it with Win95 to upload messages to a mailbox, it was necessary to turn off the FIFO on the PC COM port. And then there's the now well known lack of a functional KISS mode... Hopefully some of these problems, which seem to be more important to users in EU than in the USA, will be fixed in the rumoured firmware upgrade. -- Roger Barker, G4IDE roger@peaksys.co.uk Boston, UK http://www.packetradio.org.uk --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 9 07:59:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA09100 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 07:59:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Bill Kearns" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] thd7a and tripmates Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 05:59:40 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001901bf424d$bb2bfb40$03000004@bill> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk has anyone coupled the tripmate up with the thd7a? i cant get mine to work. i thought the new model enabled use of the tripmate. what gives? thnx, bill --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 9 12:10:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA16817 for ; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:10:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 12:09:57 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7a and tripmates References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <384FE265.DF64C4E5@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Bill the TH-D7A and TripMate works just fine.. Just make sure of two things... 1. Connector is wired correctly. 2. Use the correct TNC mode.. 73! Bill Kearns wrote: > > has anyone coupled the tripmate up with the thd7a? > i cant get mine to work. > i thought the new model enabled use of the tripmate. > what gives? > > thnx, bill > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 10 03:49:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA00871 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 03:49:17 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 03:49:00 -0600 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7a and tripmates Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Bill the TH-D7A and TripMate works just fine.. Just make >sure of two things... > >1. Connector is wired correctly. a. power b. pin 2 jumped to pin 3 for auto start c. pin high to activate the tripmate d. ground , xmit and rec lines are correct to Radio >2. Use the correct TNC mode.. > yes 3. Use a tripmate and NOT an earthmate 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 10 15:06:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA18596 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:06:46 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 16:06:00 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood TM-D700? From: "Dennis Hudson, N2LBT" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Does anyone have any more info than the ad I saw in the Winter AES catalog on this radio. I think I'm excited, but I'd love to hear any secrets or rumors going around about it. Dennis, N2LBT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 10 17:07:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA22986 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 1999 17:07:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 18:06:46 -0500 From: Jon Anhold To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? Message-ID: Reply-To: jon@snoopy.net References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: X-No-Archive: yes X-Clue: procmail+cluehack autofilters non-cluefull mail. X-PGP-Fingerprint: C4 C5 CE 7B 2A F6 2F 61 A1 23 6C 73 3A BC 5B 13 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19991210180646.E22909@snoopy.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk There are pictures from DCC at: http://ohioaprs.net/new_kenwood/ -j Previously, Dennis Hudson, N2LBT (n2lbt@n2lbt.com) said: > Does anyone have any more info than the ad I saw in the Winter AES catalog > on this radio. I think I'm excited, but I'd love to hear any secrets or > rumors going around about it. > > Dennis, N2LBT > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: jon@snoopy.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 11 07:46:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA02486 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:46:13 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" Subject: [htaprs] trip to laughlin microwave hop Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 05:46:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000e01bf43de$3268e880$a2ba31cf@kd8s> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have to go to work on a microwave hop today Saturday, leaving Las Vegas about 7 30 am. going to be transmitting my position via APRs, click on the address below to try to find me it you want. it will show my actual location on a map. you will need to figure out how to view the various maps. should be running around in the mountains in the desert most of the day. if you are in Las Vegas I am on 448.625 repeater 114.8 PL APRs talkback voice Steve Scott Las Vegas TV21/33 find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 11 18:47:37 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA24883 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:47:35 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "James Longley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 00:41:38 +0000 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000101bf443a$35d4e580$873ac28e@charlesb> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id SAA24883 I heard just this morning that its on the cover of CQ VHF Magazine December Issue. I believe its the last issue of CQ VHF heard they were going to combine both together again. James (VE7JMS) Jon Anhold wrote on 99-12-10 15:01: There are pictures from DCC at: http://ohioaprs.net/new_kenwood/ -j Previously, Dennis Hudson, N2LBT (n2lbt@n2lbt.com) said: Does anyone have any more info than the ad I saw in the Winter AES catalog on this radio. I think I'm excited, but I'd love to hear any secrets or rumors going around about it. > > Dennis, N2LBT > Regards James --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 11 22:02:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA01147 for ; Sat, 11 Dec 1999 22:02:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 23:01:54 -0500 (EST) From: John W Wilson Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7a and tripmates To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group , TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I tried my tripmate with my TH-D7A and it wouldn't work. I thought it had something to do with one of the NMEA strings sent from the GPS that the TH-D7A was not rigged to handle. John W. Wilson, KN4HX z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Thu, 9 Dec 1999, Robbie Robertson wrote: > Bill the TH-D7A and TripMate works just fine.. Just make > sure of two things... > > 1. Connector is wired correctly. > > 2. Use the correct TNC mode.. > > 73! > > Bill Kearns wrote: > > > > has anyone coupled the tripmate up with the thd7a? > > i cant get mine to work. > > i thought the new model enabled use of the tripmate. > > what gives? > > > > thnx, bill > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > -- > ---------------------------- > Are we having fun yet? > 73 - Robbie - WA9INF > ******* --... ...-- ******* > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kn4hx@amsat.org > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 12 13:05:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA09341 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:04:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Bill Kearns" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7a and tripmates Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:05:21 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000d01bf44d3$da6c92c0$03000004@bill> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I tried my tripmate with my TH-D7A and it wouldn't work. I thought it > had something to do with one of the NMEA strings sent from the GPS that > the TH-D7A was not rigged to handle. > > John W. Wilson, KN4HX > z004391b@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us > > ok here is the deal. after posting on this sig to somehow, somewhat verify that tripmates do INDEED work with thd7a's (i think i may possibly have enough responses to verify this, although most responded not really knowing what i was *really* trying to find out...and instead suggesting i look at past posts and tripmate mod diagrams etc.) and i, myself, do have some question about this now, or at least until i actually SEE it for myself. now that i have gone this far, im prepared to go all the way on this and do what ever it takes, no matter what! my scenario; i have a version II thd7a. AND, i have a working tripmate. no matter what you do they do not work together. i sent the thd7a back to kenwood. they say it works fine and sent it back it still doesnt work with my tripmate no matter what software commands or wiring schemes i try. i called kenwood back because i dont believe they actually connected a gps unit to my thd7a. i think they think i simply left the internal gps command to off or something like that. (ie 'pilot error') and they simply washed their hands of it. well, after several lengthy phone calls, me and kenwood agreed, the only way to resolve this, is for me to drive down to kenwood and have the tech come out to my pickup and witness it for himself. so that is what i am going to do this next week if i can. wish me luck. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 12 13:45:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA10877 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:45:34 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 05:46:00 +1000 From: "Art.van.Esch" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] ID Caller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3853FB78.E5FAE5DC@winshop.com.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello anyone try out a ID-Caller on the audio output TH-D7 with succes .. ?? -- Name : Art.van.Esch Url : http://www.winshop.com.au/vk4go location : Surfers-Paradise Country : Australia 4217 Callsign : VK4GO ICQ : 139612 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 12 14:43:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA12947 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:43:07 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:42:43 -0600 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7a and tripmates Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >well, after several lengthy phone calls, >me and kenwood agreed, the only way to resolve this, is for me to drive down >to kenwood >and have the tech come out to my pickup and witness it for himself. >so that is what i am going to do this next week if i can. >wish me luck. 1. tap off the Tripmate xmit line while it is connected to the D7A and feed it and a ground into a PC using a comm program. Collect the text file and let someone else feed that same ASCII data into their D7a. (What!, drive when we have the Internet) 2. Collect NMEA data from a different GPS and feed it into your D7a Because you need to jump pins 2 and 3 and because you can't wire-or two xmits there should be only TWO wires going to the D7a Tripmate D7a Ground to ground xmit to rec the D7a output line is not connected. Most GPS units don't output true RS-232 voltages ( -9 to +9 volts) but use TTL (0 to 5 volts ) I don't remember what tripmate uses, but you should check. 73 ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 12 15:10:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA15021 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:10:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Bill Kearns" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: thd7a and tripmates Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:11:04 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001901bf44e5$672d8820$03000004@bill> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > 1. tap off the Tripmate xmit line while it is connected to the D7A and feed it and a ground into a PC using a comm program. Collect the text file and let someone else feed that same ASCII data into their D7a. > (What!, drive when we have the Internet) > interesting, i assume the ascii data file can be collected easy enough by copy/paste to notepad and saved as a txt file.... how would one introduce it to the D7A?? i assume a comport connection using the same cable and simply uploading to it?? as in hyperterm?? > 2. Collect NMEA data from a different GPS and feed it into your D7a havent done this one yet.... > > Because you need to jump pins 2 and 3 and because you can't wire-or > two xmits there should be only TWO wires going to the D7a yup. only have 2 wires going to the D7A.... and tried reversing them etc. to no avail... > > Tripmate D7a > Ground to ground > xmit to rec we should be talking in terms of tip, barrell, and sleeve here... i have tried introducing data to them all..... > > the D7a output line is not connected. > > > > Most GPS units don't output true RS-232 voltages ( -9 to +9 volts) but use > TTL (0 to 5 volts ) > > I don't remember what tripmate uses, but you should check. this is a moot point if there is even ONE tripmate user who has successfully done the interface.... > > 73 > > > ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: BILLK@INLAND.NET > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 12 16:18:51 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA16940 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:18:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Ben & Merridy Lindner" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Crossband Repeat Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:47:56 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Info: South East On Line List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001001bf44ee$dadd3aa0$593517cb@default> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all Have just purchased a TH-D7E (Australian Version). What I want to know is can this beast do crossband repeat ? Have been on this list for some time now and have noticed alot of US owners seem to have quite a few different problems, hopefully the version I received does not. One of my mates hear in my home town has not had any problems with his what so ever. Any way cheers all and happy aprsing Ben VK5JFK in Mt Gambier, South Australia vk5neb@seol.net.au --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 12 16:30:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA17232 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:30:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:29:21 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Crossband Repeat References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <385413B1.77994E69@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk IN ONE WORD, NOPE! :-( 73! Ben & Merridy Lindner wrote: > > Hi all > > Have just purchased a TH-D7E (Australian Version). > > What I want to know is can this beast do crossband repeat ? > > Have been on this list for some time now and have noticed alot of US owners > seem to have quite a few different problems, hopefully the version I > received does not. One of my mates hear in my home town has not had any > problems with his what so ever. > > Any way cheers all and happy aprsing > > Ben VK5JFK in Mt Gambier, South Australia > vk5neb@seol.net.au > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 12 18:42:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA21142 for ; Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:42:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] las vegas aprs Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:43:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <005d01bf4503$09c09e20$07ba31cf@kd8s> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk heading back to laughlin and the mountains from Las Vegas again Monday. running thd-7 and the Magellan meridian xl GPS thats Monday DEC 13 99 departing the TV station about 8 am I loose the digi at searchlight Nevada, but can hit the phoenix and Vegas digi from the top of Christmas tree pass (spirit mountain) near laughlin. was unable to fix the 23 ghz microwave hop Saturday its windy up in the mountains on tall radio towers+ACE- 73 Steve Scott KD8S find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 14 22:03:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA28089 for ; Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:03:35 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:02:55 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Crossband Repeat From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/12/99 4:17 PM, Ben & Merridy Lindner at vk5neb@seol.net.au wrote: > Have just purchased a TH-D7E (Australian Version). > > What I want to know is can this beast do crossband repeat ? Don't think it does. This is one feature sadly lacking on the TH-D7 series. The new mobile WILL have crossband repeat capability. 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 15 09:05:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA00678 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:05:57 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Keiser" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] GPS + PalmOS + pocketAPRS = Visor Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:03:34 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000701bf470d$8eb77d40$a064080a@chi.navtech.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hey! The Handspring Visor gets a GPS module! Now all you need is a TH-D7A (and Mike's GREAT(!!) program) to do APRS! See: http://www.marcosoft.com/quovadishandy/default.stm (Now if Visor will only ship me my connector cables so I can see if pocketAPRS really works, instead of just seems to!) 73s de N4OGL Mark --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 15 09:22:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA01210 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:22:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] las vegas aprs talkback Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:23:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002501bf4710$59837720$e4ba31cf@kd8s> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I use 448.625 PL 114.8 in Las Vegas for talkback. my text message in the thd-7 also sends that out. it works great to be able to digi on 144.39 then if hams are out there tracking or just general APRs talk we all would hope to hang out on the same freq.. the voice repeater is APRs friendly so I also go mic encode at times. also in Las Vegas we have the QST machine. it responds to touch-tone only and hams can command up a current list of repeaters and PL, clubs, listen to ham radio programs, find out about swaps, all local ham radio info. the barker message that runs every 3 minutes ids the machine and tell you what button to push for the main menu. the barker also gives info on APRs talkback and other local APRs info. start a machine in your area for locals and visitors check out www.lvrac.org for more info click on QST machine. if anyone is reading this from the phoenix digi area, let me know where the digi is. I hit it and was getting data from laughlin Nevada on a mountain at 5200 feet amsl. not sure if it was a digi direct, a remote rx. or a band opening. I live in Las Vegas 73 find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 15 09:29:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA01279 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:29:19 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:29:39 -0500 Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS + PalmOS + pocketAPRS = Visor From: Dennis Hudson To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk What are you using for a cable for the visor to do serial? We are going to buy some more Palms or Visors, and I was thinking of swapping my IIIx out for a visor if it will talk to my radio or TNC. Dennis > From: "Mark Keiser" > Reply-To: > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:03:34 -0600 > To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" > Subject: [htaprs] GPS + PalmOS + pocketAPRS = Visor > > Hey! The Handspring Visor gets a GPS module! Now all you need is a TH-D7A > (and Mike's GREAT(!!) program) to do APRS! > > See: > http://www.marcosoft.com/quovadishandy/default.stm > > (Now if Visor will only ship me my connector cables so I can see if pocketAPRS > really works, instead of just seems to!) > > 73s de N4OGL > Mark > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n2lbt@n2lbt.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 15 10:03:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA02389 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:03:01 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Mark Keiser" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS + PalmOS + pocketAPRS = Visor Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:00:24 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001101bf4715$7f7f55c0$a064080a@chi.navtech.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Right now I am not using any cable to do serial - just lookin at the purty pictures! Seriously, the Visor came with a cradle and USB plug. I ordered a cradle with a serial connection (hasn't come yet) and a cable with a connector for the Visor on one end and a serial interface on the other end (hasn't come yet, either). I also sent an email to the technical support folks asking bout pinouts, but they didn't respond. Using the serial cradle, I can probably figure out what the pinouts are before I carve up the cable with the Visor connector, and mate it to the Mouser cable with the stereo right-angle plug for the D7 (after I cut off the USB plug). I finally got my 8MB Springboard module, and I think I can put all my maps there. The instructions say things in the module can be accessed, but not edited, so I think that's a good place to store the program and maps, but not the files that store callsign/data/whatever. On the whole, though, I am REALLY (!!!!) impressed with the Visor. I just wish there were alternate cable sources for it. Anyone on the list know? Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-8625@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-8625@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Dennis Hudson > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 9:30 AM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Re: GPS + PalmOS + pocketAPRS = Visor > > > What are you using for a cable for the visor to do serial? We are going to > buy some more Palms or Visors, and I was thinking of swapping my IIIx out > for a visor if it will talk to my radio or TNC. > > > Dennis > > > From: "Mark Keiser" > > Reply-To: > > Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 09:03:34 -0600 > > To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" > > Subject: [htaprs] GPS + PalmOS + pocketAPRS = Visor > > > > Hey! The Handspring Visor gets a GPS module! Now all you need is a TH-D7A > > (and Mike's GREAT(!!) program) to do APRS! > > > > See: > > http://www.marcosoft.com/quovadishandy/default.stm > > > > (Now if Visor will only ship me my connector cables so I can see if pocketAPRS > > really works, instead of just seems to!) > > > > 73s de N4OGL > > Mark > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: n2lbt@n2lbt.com > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mkeiser@chi.navtech.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 15 11:27:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA05501 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:27:12 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 12:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: las vegas aprs talkback In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > I use 448.625 PL 114.8 in Las Vegas for talkback. my text message in the > thd-7 also sends that out. Good info, but wwe need an approximate LAT/LONG to put it on the map... Or just tell us about how far and what direction to put it from "las Vegas"... ALso, an estimate of its PHG would also be valuable input... Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 17 08:57:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA19322 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 08:57:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Reply-To: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] aprs mountain man las vegas Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:58:31 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000e01bf489f$2fdd5ea0$8bba31cf@kd8s> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk going to be up in the mountains in southern Nevada again today running thd-7 and Magellan meridian xl GPS the roads are so rough and steep and bumpy its all 4 wheel drive and I have to hold the thd-7 in my hand to absorb the shock of the road. when I get multipath bounce I get packets back that are my own but since its multipath its altered and I get some interesting words on my display. it all starts with instead of kd8-7 I get something like ad8s-7 or any combination that is as a result of packet distortion from the reflection. I also found hot spots while going up mountains where I can passive reflector bounce rf out of a canyon to a digi. I know where the hot spot is with GPS position since most of the mountains all look the same 73 if you hear me on the phoenix digi let me know, I can hit hear it from the top of Christmas tree pass near laughlin Nevada 73 Steve Scott find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 17 10:09:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA21954 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:08:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 11:07:10 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: aprs mountain man las vegas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS wrote: > the roads are so rough and steep and bumpy its all 4 wheel drive and I have > to hold the thd-7 in my hand to absorb the shock of the road. > > when I get multipath bounce I get packets back that are my own but since its > multipath its altered and I get some interesting words on my display. > > it all starts with instead of kd8-7 I get something like ad8s-7 or > any combination that is as a result of packet distortion from the > reflection. This could be a glitch in your radio. BUT it could also be because, someone somewhere has a DIGI that has PASSALL ON. This is the "WORST" thing that can happen in APRS. Stop everything and get your friends in the area to search out and correct this errant digi.... It is destroying the integrity of your system... It happens. ANd is very difficult to locate. You must send packets round-robin digi by digi and back to yourself to find out what digi has passall ON.. And you must do this with weak signals, since strong signals will probably be error free, and thus you wont find it... Good luck. Whether its in your radio or in the network, you will need it, hi hi... Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 17 12:58:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA27089 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 12:58:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Dave VanHorn" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: aprs mountain man las vegas Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:58:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00be01bf48c0$c5e36cc0$0200a8c0@xemu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > It happens. ANd is very difficult to locate. You must send packets > round-robin digi by digi and back to yourself to find out what digi has > passall ON.. And you must do this with weak signals, since strong signals > will probably be error free, and thus you wont find it... A suggestion: In my area, we have a coordinator, and he has the remote sysop "keys" to my digi. Normally I maintain it, but if it ever goes psycho, or I screw something up, he can get in there and fix it. With this in place, it's no big deal to query each digi in an area and just ask who's got passall on. It might be a good practice to spread. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 17 23:09:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA12115 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 23:09:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: aprs mountain man las vegas In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:58:31 PST." Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 21:09:05 -0800 From: John Sullivan List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912180509.VAA07034@marvin> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I captured most of your track on Monday off one of the APRS servers. The errors are also showing up there. There were at least three variations on your call. It was shown as kd8s&-1 when you were in the hills near Laughlin. There was also a single-bit error in your reported longitude while you were returning to LV. Your position jumped from 115W to 123W for two consecutive positions, putting you in the Pacific momentarily. Your reports today all seem to have the correct call. There was another single-bit longitude error on your return track. It jumped from 114_55'W to 115_55'W for one position report. That house of yours can really move! John WD6BTP > From: " STEVE SCOTT LAS VEGAS" > Subject: [htaprs] aprs mountain man las vegas > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 06:58:31 -0800 > > going to be up in the mountains in southern Nevada again today > > running thd-7 and Magellan meridian xl GPS > > > the roads are so rough and steep and bumpy its all 4 wheel drive and I have > to hold the thd-7 in my hand to absorb the shock of the road. > > when I get multipath bounce I get packets back that are my own but since its > multipath its altered and I get some interesting words on my display. > > it all starts with instead of kd8-7 I get something like ad8s-7 or > any combination that is as a result of packet distortion from the > reflection. > > > I also found hot spots while going up mountains where I can passive > reflector bounce rf out of a canyon to a digi. > > I know where the hot spot is with GPS position since most of the mountains > all look the same > > 73 > > if you hear me on the phoenix digi let me know, I can hit hear it from the > top of Christmas tree pass near laughlin Nevada > > 73 > > Steve Scott > find me on a map+ACE- go to http://map.aprs.net/kd8s-7 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 19 01:11:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id BAA14507 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 01:11:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 17:11:23 +1000 From: "Art.van.Esch" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Video Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <385C851A.750E2032@winshop.com.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello sorry to ask here it is not a APRS message, but is there anyone who have some info how to connect a Video CCD camera with RGB output to a USB port .. Cheers all from the Gold-Coast running I-Gate to VHF fulltime 145.175MHz PS: look... http://www.winshop.com.au/vk4go/xmas.htm -- location : Surfers-Paradise Country : Australia 4217 Callsign : VK4GO ICQ : 139612 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 19 13:45:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA11857 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:45:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:45:13 Subject: [htaprs] Station waypoints To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "r bratberg" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Gentlepeople: Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? GPS3+ and eMap? My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... Thanks for any help! 73 Bob KE6TIV --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 19 14:20:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA12794 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 14:20:08 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:19:24 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, r bratberg wrote: > Gentlepeople: > > Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as > waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? > GPS3+ and eMap? > My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... This is IMPORTAnt TO KNOW. WIll someone make a list? The Garmin Street Pilot will not either. Bummer.... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 19 15:26:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA14503 for ; Sun, 19 Dec 1999 15:26:43 -0600 (CST) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Station Waypoints Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:26:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000101bf4a67$af9f41c0$70a819d0@gerhardt> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The Garmin III+ does. Neat feature. Since you asked the question Bob, I hope you will compile the list and then post it for everyone to see. Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of r bratberg > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 5:45 AM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Station waypoints > > > Gentlepeople: > > Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as > waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? > GPS3+ and eMap? > My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... > > Thanks for any help! 73 Bob KE6TIV > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: gerhardt@hctc.com > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 02:31:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA10009 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 02:31:05 -0600 (CST) Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:29:26 +0100 From: "Schayk A.H. van" Subject: [htaprs] RE: Station waypoints To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: "'htaprs@lists.tapr.org'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <710E1F0BA36DD211893E0008C71C6466083900@triton> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > -----Original Message----- > From: r bratberg [mailto:rb95403@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 1999 2:45 PM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Station waypoints > > > Gentlepeople: > > Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as > waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? > GPS3+ and eMap? > My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... > > Thanks for any help! 73 Bob KE6TIV > Hi I don't know why but my gps 12 does take the waypoints and plot them on the map The only drawback is that the icons and way it's put on the map is not clear (icon only, name with icon, comment with icon) 73 de Andre PE1RDW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 11:26:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA02358 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:26:40 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:21:18 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as > waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? > GPS3+ and eMap? > My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... > > Thanks for any help! 73 Bob KE6TIV > Really. Bummers..I was looking forward to that. (Roll on chrisums) I was told that if you set NMEA/NMEA on the garmin then the THD will program waypoints (within a certain distance of yourself) so although there isnt a map- the active local stations will appear on screen. Objects too?? But the 12 isnt playing ball? :( Thats what i have. The garmin II does it apparently. Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 11:44:13 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA02865 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:44:05 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Jon Ogden" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 11:40:34 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <006f01bf4b11$52fb6e80$d067fea9@jonogden> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- From: Carl To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Cc: Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 11:21 AM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints > I was told that if you set NMEA/NMEA on the garmin then the THD > will program waypoints (within a certain distance of yourself) so > although there isnt a map- the active local stations will appear > on screen. Objects too?? But the 12 isnt playing ball? :( Thats what i > have. The garmin II does it apparently. The GPS-12XL will read the waypoints from the THD. And it will store them (be careful, if you don't have POS limit turned on on the THD, you will fill up your waypoint list pretty fast!). But what it won't do is to make them "move" on the map. Once the GPS-12XL displays its map, all of the waypoints on that map remain fixed. I think the only way to cause them to change is to power down the unit and power it back up. On power up, I believe it reads all the waypoint locations from memory and then puts them on the map page (if you call it a map page). So while it will actively record your waypoints, it won't actively display them moving. 73, Jon KE9NA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 14:15:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA07679 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:15:53 -0600 (CST) From: G7GUO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:15:28 EST Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <0.bedfc230.258fe860@aol.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk In a message dated 19/12/1999 19:46:44 GMT Standard Time, rb95403@aol.com writes: << Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? GPS3+ and eMap? My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... Thanks for any help! 73 Bob KE6TIV >> The old GPS3 (non+) does it OK. 73, Simon (g7guo) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 14:22:53 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA07965 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 14:22:51 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "chris schwab" <1schwab1@tampabay.rr.com> To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:18:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001a01bf4b40$7e235c60$12d26783@schwabcport> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk My Garmin GPS12 does show it.. Which setting do you have your GPS set to? It should be set to Nmea/Nmea... Chris -----Original Message----- From: G7GUO@aol.com To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 12:16 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints >In a message dated 19/12/1999 19:46:44 GMT Standard Time, rb95403@aol.com >writes: > ><< Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as > waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? > GPS3+ and eMap? > My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... > > Thanks for any help! 73 Bob KE6TIV >> > >The old GPS3 (non+) does it OK. >73, Simon (g7guo) > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: 1schwab1@tampabay.rr.com >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 15:59:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA11056 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:59:56 -0600 (CST) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:59:03 -0500 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 12/20/99 12:21 PM, Carl (carl_mail@dr.com) passed this wisdom: >I was told that if you set NMEA/NMEA on the garmin then the THD >will program waypoints (within a certain distance of yourself) so >although there isnt a map- the active local stations will appear >on screen. Objects too?? But the 12 isnt playing ball? :( Thats what i >have. The garmin II does it apparently. My II+ does it just fine also Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life." - Chinese proverb --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 17:47:57 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA14240 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 17:47:56 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 15:47:47 -0800 From: Rick Edwards X-Sender: "Rick Edwards" (Unverified) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <385EC023.81AC13A7@earthlink.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk My Garmin GPS45XL shows station waypoints. Interestingly, SOME station calls have their prefix truncated (ie. K6TVI-14 will be a waypoint called 6TVI-14 SOMETIMES). It does not seem to matter whether it's a one or two character prefix. BTW, the radio/tnc is a D7. .... --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 19:03:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA16237 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:03:52 -0600 (CST) From: "John A. Beamer at ATT" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Packet software for the Palm Pilot Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:03:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001bf4b4f$23a3cc20$aa682581@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello de John, I have connected my D7 with my Palm Pilot and my Magellon 315 and it works GREAT! Is there any Packet software out for the Pilot? 73 John W4UTA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 19:12:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA16555 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 19:11:59 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:11:44 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 20 Dec 1999, Rick Edwards wrote: > My Garmin GPS45XL shows station waypoints. Interestingly, SOME station > calls have their prefix truncated (ie. K6TVI-14 will be a waypoint > called 6TVI-14 SOMETIMES). It does not seem to matter whether it's a one > or two character prefix. ALL calls are truncated to the right most 6 chars since Waypoints could only be 6 chars in most GPS units. They keep the RIGHT half since that is the only way to distinguish between all the SSID's of a station... Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 21:02:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA19382 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 21:02:13 -0600 (CST) Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 22:01:59 -0500 x-sender: brianbr@popmail.macconnect.com From: "Brian B. Riley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On 12/20/99 6:47 PM, Rick Edwards (threepalms@earthlink.net) passed this wisdom: >My Garmin GPS45XL shows station waypoints. Interestingly, SOME station >calls have their prefix truncated (ie. K6TVI-14 will be a waypoint >called 6TVI-14 SOMETIMES). It does not seem to matter whether it's a one >or two character prefix. waypoint names are limited it takes the right 6 chars Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys "If you can't believe what you read in comic books, what can you believe?" -- Bullwinkle J. Moose --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 20 23:07:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA22829 for ; Mon, 20 Dec 1999 23:07:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: From: "Paul Anderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:09:16 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints Reply-to: vr2yrc@harts.org.hk CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Priority: normal References: In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912210506.NAA06621@imsp074.netvigator.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Dear Bob, My Garmin 12 is software version 3.52 and DOES seem to show at least my home base received APRS station when roving and connected to TH-D7. Which software version is this guy using ? Will I lose this ability is I software "upgade" to 3.53 ? 73 Paul / VR2YRC Hong Kong. On 19 Dec 99, at 15:19, Bob Bruninga wrote: > On Sun, 19 Dec 1999, r bratberg wrote: > > > Gentlepeople: > > > > Which Garmin products show received APRS stations as > > waypoints on their moving maps while connected to a TH-D7? > > GPS3+ and eMap? > > My Garmin GPS 12 doesn't seem to.... > > This is IMPORTAnt TO KNOW. WIll someone make a list? > > The Garmin Street Pilot will not either. Bummer.... > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: vr2yrc@harts.org.hk > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 21 12:52:14 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA03116 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 12:52:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Station waypoints Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 11:51:01 -0700 Encoding: 16 TEXT List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BF4BA9.A801A6E0.tarnerich@in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk "Paul Anderson" wrote: >My Garmin 12 is software version 3.52 and DOES seem to show... Paul has the right idea. Model number is not sufficient information, the firmware rev is equally important. Garmin and probably the other GPS mfgrs as well go through a lot of revisions on each model, sometimes with major changes in functionality. And yes, NMEA communications in and out are required if the GPS is to accept a Waypoint Define command from an external device. Set the interface mode NMEA/NMEA in Garmins. 73, Tony KD7CEJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 21 14:38:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA05760 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:38:18 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Ciemon G0TRT" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] D7 Other symbols Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 20:37:53 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000601bf4bf3$41b9e060$70a301d5@g0trt> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi all, Just exploring my D7 a bit during the holidays. Has anyone actually bought a PG-4W cable? It's incredible that the other symbols can only be seen in the manual with that cable. Has anyone sat down and manually worked out all of the symbols? I'd like a copy please, so that I don't have to do it myself! 73......Ciemon Dunville G0TRT email: g0trt@amsat.org Loc: 5207.25N 00058.23E www: www.g0trt.freeserve.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)7715 104275 ICQ#: 6263612 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 21 15:00:18 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA06341 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 15:00:17 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Horzepa, Stan" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: D7 Other symbols Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 14:56:53 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <1B66FFC6BE1CD211A0620008C7A42AC2011386E4@MRDNEXCH01> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Download a copy of APRS (DOS). Unzip the file named SYMBOLS.TXT in the README folder. Open SYMBOLS.TXT and you will find a table that is the same as the one in the manual. Stan, WA1LOU -----Original Message----- From: Ciemon G0TRT [mailto:g0trt@amsat.org] Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 3:38 PM To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] D7 Other symbols Hi all, Just exploring my D7 a bit during the holidays. Has anyone actually bought a PG-4W cable? It's incredible that the other symbols can only be seen in the manual with that cable. Has anyone sat down and manually worked out all of the symbols? I'd like a copy please, so that I don't have to do it myself! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 21 22:30:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA18230 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 1999 22:30:19 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:29:24 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Idea for the road? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk THD7 users note: WHile pondering my XMAS trip, I find keeping up with 2m Voice repeaters with the ARRL Repeater guide to be tiresome, especially if I try to keep my STATUS up-to-date with the current frequency I am listening on... MORE often than not, the freq I am listening on as entered in to my STATUS text is always out of date... SOLUTION Maybe? THis trip I will try entering my status as: "What Freq am I in?" If someone sees me an wants to QSO, then they can send me a message and tell me what frequency is best for where I am. THey will know much better than I can ever guess... Just a thought... Bob, WB4APR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 22 12:11:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA23696 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:11:00 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:03:13 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Idea for the road? From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > "What Freq am I in?" > > If someone sees me an wants to QSO, then they can send me a message and > tell me what frequency is best for where I am. THey will know much better > than I can ever guess... > > Just a thought... Won't they just assume there was too much brandy in the Xmas pud?? :) When out mobile I have put something like -listening on 433.5 and 70cm FM repeaters - and then scan with su20 as the priority. I've had a couple of calls on the local repeater ... but nobody listens to 433.5 round here :) Oh and a Merry Xmas Bob. Even though your 'baby' seems to be chewing up all my spare time.... :) 73 Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 22 15:15:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA28218 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:15:05 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:15:52 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/10/99 15:06, Dennis Hudson, N2LBT at n2lbt@n2lbt.com wrote: > Does anyone have any more info than the ad I saw in the Winter AES catalog > on this radio. I think I'm excited, but I'd love to hear any secrets or > rumors going around about it. The radio is not for sale in the US yet as we are still awaiting FCC approval. This approval is due sometime this month (December) and the radios are due to hit store shelves in January. I was at AES a couple weeks ago and they had no more information than that. They had no pricing info either. Apparently, the TMD-700E is available in Europe now. A chap on the AMSAT-BB reflector mentions he has seen them advertised for 469 UK Pounds. At a conversion rate of 1.61 dollars per pound, that comes out to $755. I don't know if prices are normally higher in the UK, but that sounds a little steep. I am chomping at the bit for this radio myself! Can't wait to get my grubby little hands on it. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 22 16:40:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA00953 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:40:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: tarnerich@in-situ.com (Tony Arnerich) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Idea for the road? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:56:03 -0700 Encoding: 26 TEXT List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <01BF4C62.C4355A00.tarnerich@in-situ.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The esteemed Bob Bruninga wrote: >SOLUTION Maybe? THis trip I will try entering my status as: >"What Freq am I in?" I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that the most common response could be: "144.390 apparently" as in, not understanding the question. How about something like: "Voice QSOs: suggest a Freq" >If someone sees me an wants to QSO, then they can send me a message and tell >me what frequency is best for where I am. THey will know much better than I can >ever guess... Undoubtedly true. Good concept. Maybe the next integrated transceiver/TNC product that comes from anybody could store Lat and Lon as part of the frequency memories, and the voice channel would automatically be selected as you travel (your choice of "nearest" or "when I get within a specified radius"). Kenwood could probably introduce this in a firmware rev for the D7 and D700. You heard it here first! :-) 73, Tony Arnerich KD7CEJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 22 17:41:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA02304 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:41:49 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 15:32:56 -0800 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2,5-28 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Ron Reeves List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19991222.153257.-798493.0.n7qxo@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk FYI, Yesterday at HRO in Portland they told me that these radios will be released in January and their price is $699.00 I called another vendor and was told they are released and they expect their first shipment before the end of the year. Their price will be $659.00. Ron N7QXO > The radio is not for sale in the US yet as we are still awaiting FCC > approval. This approval is due sometime this month (December) and > the > radios are due to hit store shelves in January. I was at AES a > couple weeks > ago and they had no more information than that. They had no pricing > info > either. > > Apparently, the TMD-700E is available in Europe now. A chap on the > AMSAT-BB > reflector mentions he has seen them advertised for 469 UK Pounds. > At a > conversion rate of 1.61 dollars per pound, that comes out to $755. > I don't > know if prices are normally higher in the UK, but that sounds a > little > steep. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 22 18:47:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA03588 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:47:05 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:46:52 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Steven J Adams" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk If you go to Rt Systems web page, http://www.rtsars.com/ they are advertising the unit for $669.00 and saying they are taking orders. KF4NAT Steve Adams Valdosta GA --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 22 18:49:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA03670 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:49:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:49:17 +1000 From: "Art.van.Esch" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: APRS Mail list Subject: [htaprs] CD-10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3861718D.A6760087@winshop.com.au> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello all I have a old Kenwood CD-10 Callsign Display Unit, and like to use it, is anyone who have this unit also ?? Plaese let me know surf@winshop.com.au Cheers de Art -- Name : Art.van.Esch Url : http://www.winshop.com.au/vk4go location : Surfers-Paradise Country : Australia 4217 Callsign : VK4GO ICQ : 139612 --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 22 19:11:49 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA04304 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:11:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 20:10:30 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk RT Systems has them for $669 now. www.rtsars.com Paul E. Knupke, Jr. pk@ij.net Largo, FL ICQ#605259 Amateur Radio: KR4YL ------------------------------------------- KR4YL/R 442.150+ 103.5 CTCSS Clearwater, FL FCG does W1AW/4 IARU - July 2000 ASM WCF Section --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 03:07:43 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA22903 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:07:42 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@lists.tapr.org@fixme Message-Id: X-Sender: sparkfel@pop.primenet.com Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:07:19 -0600 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Mark Fellhauer Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991223030719.007eaa10@pop.primenet.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 03:15 PM 12/22/99 -0600, Jon Ogden wrote: >Apparently, the TMD-700E is available in Europe now. A chap on the AMSAT-BB >reflector mentions he has seen them advertised for 469 UK Pounds. At a >conversion rate of 1.61 dollars per pound, that comes out to $755. I don't >know if prices are normally higher in the UK, but that sounds a little >steep. Lessee... When I bought my FT-8500 (when they were new) I think I was in for about $640 by the time I added the remote mount kit and the CTCSS-decode module. For $115 more you get a radio with a built-in 1200/9600 BPS TNC. When was the last time you got a NEW 1200/9600 BPS TNC for $115? Not to mention the TM-D700A has the advantage of DCS,a bigger display, remote control via DTMF, and a broader receive coverage. BTW, and then I had to shell out another $40 for the ADMS software and interface...hopefully Kenwood will make this radio's software available like the TH-D7A. Of course, at the time I bought my FT-8500 it was the ONLY radio that met my purchase criteria...1200/9600 BPS packet and an alphaumeric remote-able display. Not to mention the TM-D700A has the advantage of DCS,a bigger display, remote control via DTMF, and a broader receive coverage. Two years ago I had all but counted Kenwood out of the Amateur Radio field. Now all that ICOM and Yaesu can do is eat Kenwood's dust, especially when it comes to VHF/UHF radios. I was saving my pennies for an FT-847 or an FT-100, but with the lukewarm reviews I've read of both, I think I'd get more enjoyment out of a TM-D700. My other beef with Yeasu, ICOM, and others, is the total lack of downloadable manuals from websites. I think the greatest service Kenwood has provided is QUALITY .pdf copies of their manuals available to anyone with an internet connection. I have a copy of the TH-D7A's manual on my laptop (which travels with me) and on my computer at work. I can't tell you how useful that is and what a great selling point an available manual is for those of us who don't have an amateur radio store in their neighborhood (anymore). I hope the people at ICOM, Yaesu, Alinco, et al take a hint from Kenwood and wake up. Mark --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 05:57:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA05451 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 05:57:53 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: magicnet.magicnet.net: cruz owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 06:57:32 -0500 (EST) From: Karl Salisbury To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I have seen the TM-D700A advertised at AES and RT Systems for 679.99USD 669.99USD respectively. The type acceptance by the FCC has reportedly been approved. The availability is said to be somewhere between the end of December 1999 and Spring 2000. The price is somewhat higher than I expected, but as Mark said it is still a great deal. Karl KG4BNA On Thu, 23 Dec 1999, Mark Fellhauer wrote: > Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:07:19 -0600 > From: Mark Fellhauer > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? > > At 03:15 PM 12/22/99 -0600, Jon Ogden wrote: > > >Apparently, the TMD-700E is available in Europe now. A chap on the AMSAT-BB > >reflector mentions he has seen them advertised for 469 UK Pounds. At a > >conversion rate of 1.61 dollars per pound, that comes out to $755. I don't > >know if prices are normally higher in the UK, but that sounds a little > >steep. > > Lessee... When I bought my FT-8500 (when they were new) I think I was in > for about $640 by the time I added the remote mount kit and the > CTCSS-decode module. For $115 more you get a radio with a built-in > 1200/9600 BPS TNC. When was the last time you got a NEW 1200/9600 BPS TNC > for $115? Not to mention the TM-D700A has the advantage of DCS,a bigger > display, remote control via DTMF, and a broader receive coverage. > > > BTW, and then I had to shell out another $40 for the ADMS software and > interface...hopefully Kenwood will make this radio's software available > like the TH-D7A. Of course, at the time I bought my FT-8500 it was the > ONLY radio that met my purchase criteria...1200/9600 BPS packet and an > alphaumeric remote-able display. > > Mark > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 08:05:03 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA07707 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 08:05:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:04:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > I hope the people at ICOM, Yaesu, Alinco, et al take a hint from Kenwood > and wake up. Kenwood certainly has been inovative with the D7 and now D700. Maybe we'll see a HF rig with a multimode controller built in? As to price, $669 can strike us as high but considering what it is, and its new -- I guess one can't complain too loudly. It'll come down. The D7 is down $40-50 since its introduction so the D700 will drop too I am sure with time. 73 Paul KR4YL Paul E. Knupke, Jr. pk@ij.net Largo, FL ICQ#605259 Amateur Radio: KR4YL ------------------------------------------- KR4YL/R 442.150+ 103.5 CTCSS Clearwater, FL FCG does W1AW/4 IARU - July 2000 ASM WCF Section --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 10:04:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA10966 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:04:47 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 09:02:47 MST Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood TM-D700? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-7,11-14 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19991223.090249.-281195.1.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 23 Dec 1999 03:07:19 -0600 Mark Fellhauer writes: > and then I had to shell out another $40 for the ADMS software > and interface...hopefully Kenwood will make this radio's software > available like the TH-D7A. I was just looking at my newest QST and the D700A ad on the back cover. It says "Memory Control program available via Internet access" so it appears it will be. I have not actually checked the site to see if it is there yet or not. Jim Baremore K5QQ ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 10:55:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA12655 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:54:58 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:55:46 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700A On order! From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Howdy all! Well, I just placed my order for the TM-D700A with AES. Glad to see it's finally available! Now it's just the waiting game for it to come in! Oh well...... 73 es Happy Holidays, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 11:23:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA13430 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:23:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:23:40 -0500 From: bobj X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700A Price, maybe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38625A9C.1A6390E7@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk F.Y.I. Burghardt Amature center shows a price for the d700A: "Kenwood TM-D700A 2M/70CM DB MOBILE, WITH TNC, 9 659.95" http://www.burghardt-amateur.com/Burghardt/HTML%20%3C--%20upload%20here/New.txt.html PS... love my THD7! DE K1KAS --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 11:34:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id LAA13788 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:34:14 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 11:35:20 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Price, maybe From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/23/99 11:23, bobj at bobj@mediaone.net wrote: > Burghardt Amature center shows a price for the d700A: > > "Kenwood TM-D700A 2M/70CM DB MOBILE, WITH TNC, > 9 659.95" That's the best price I've seen yet. AES is at 679, HRO at $699, RT Systems at $669, so $659 is great! Oh well....placed mine with AES. Like to support the "local" guys. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 12:29:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA15160 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:29:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:29:17 Subject: [htaprs] Tripmate To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Fred Halley Jr." List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I just finished testing my TH-D7A with my Tripmate which I modified and it works great. Because I do use my Tripmate for both APRS and with Street Atlas 6.0 on my laptop I modified the modification by installing a small SPDT switch in the base of the Tripmate to allow me to switch between the two modes. With the switch in the MAP position it stops the draw on the batteries and only draws power if the laptop gives the power up command. When I'm ready to do some APRS I just move the switch to the HAM position and install the home made DB9 to TH-D7A GPS port and away I go. The only draw back to the entire project was the wire that comes with the TH-D7A is nearly impossible to solder to. The fine wire in the cable seems to have some kind of a coating on it that is a real pain in the %$#@& to work with. 73s KC2CQL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 12:57:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA15985 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:57:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 10:57:38 -0800 (PST) From: Erich Berman Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Price, maybe To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19991223185738.20841.rocketmail@web221.mail.yahoo.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Why do you want to "support the local guys"? Being local to AES, too, I've found them not to be very supportive of me. I shop elsewhere. --- Jon Ogden wrote: > on 12/23/99 11:23, bobj at bobj@mediaone.net wrote: > > > Burghardt Amature center shows a price for the > d700A: > > > > "Kenwood TM-D700A 2M/70CM > DB MOBILE, WITH TNC, > > 9 659.95" > > That's the best price I've seen yet. AES is at 679, > HRO at $699, RT Systems > at $669, so $659 is great! > > Oh well....placed mine with AES. Like to support > the "local" guys. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: > ERICH@BERMAN.ORG > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 12:59:47 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA16040 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:59:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:59:30 Subject: [htaprs] Kenwood radios To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "James Kalkowski" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I just called Burghardt myself and "reserved" my new Kenwood TMD700. I was told that just today they learned that the radios were expected in 12/30 or so and should go out the first week of January. On another subject, I have a D7A and have been looking around for a 2.5 mm stereo jack to make up a second cable to interface it with the GPS I have. Radio Shack doesn't seem to carry that size jack. Has anyone come across these jacks or is it something I have to order from Kenwood at some inflated price? -73- Jim N1GTL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 13:15:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA16602 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:15:08 -0600 (CST) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:15:05 -0600 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Robert Winingham Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >On another subject, I have a D7A and have been looking around for a 2.5 mm >stereo jack to make up a second cable to interface it with the GPS I have. >Radio Shack doesn't seem to carry that size jack. Has anyone come across >these jacks or is it something I have to order from Kenwood at some >inflated price? > >-73- > >Jim >N1GTL > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kc5ejk@onramp.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org their coiled extender cable has 2.5MM on each end mail and female Look in the phone/cell phone area. or search this list for a part number ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 13:21:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA16773 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:21:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:21:44 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38626838.E5A366BB@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The RSs around the Northern subs of Chgo have them like two or so in a blister pack, don't remember the numbers though.. Robert Winingham wrote: > > >On another subject, I have a D7A and have been looking around for a 2.5 mm stereo plug..... > > their coiled extender cable has 2.5MM on each end mail and female > Look in the phone/cell phone area. > or search this list for a part number > > ----- kc5ejk@onramp.net or kc5ejk@amsat.org ----- -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 13:50:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA17706 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 13:50:25 -0600 (CST) From: "Rob Wittner" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:50:03 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > their coiled extender cable has 2.5MM on each end mail > and female Look in the phone/cell phone area. > or search this list for a part number 'Tis true... I have purchased two of them, and have converted one to hang off the end of my CE box to talk to my D7. I don't know if it was mentioned, but the 2.5mm plug is gold-plated. (The female jack is gold-plated as well, but that's usually the part that gets snipped off first. ;-) Unfortunately, the wires appear to be two or three strands of single-file copper molecules dipped in red and white plastic. When soldering them, you will be amazed at their robustness and will mentally compare them to other sturdy things such as gum wrappers, single-ply tissue, and those little proprietary dongles that plug into your PCMCIA modem. :-) Seriously, tho. If you can manage to get them soldered, (I did, but it took awhile) and provide some reasonable strain relief, you'll be rewarded by a nifty looking coiled cord. Good luck... -Rob KZ5RW --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 14:07:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA18511 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 14:07:26 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:06:50 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Horst To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > On another subject, I have a D7A and have been looking around for a 2.5 mm > stereo jack to make up a second cable to interface it with the GPS I have. > Radio Shack doesn't seem to carry that size jack. Has anyone come across > these jacks or is it something I have to order from Kenwood at some > inflated price? > Mouser Electronics has them: part number 172-2010, 2.5mm 90 degree angle stereo plug molded onto a 72" shielded black cable. The qty 1 price is $3.96. Or buy 10 like I did and get them for $3.30 ea. Buy a few and make both a long cable for home or car and a short cable for when you carry it on your person. Here is the catalog page: http://www.mouser.com/catalog/cat_600/106.pdf --Eric --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 17:15:06 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA24737 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:15:06 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 17:14:47 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Price, maybe From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/23/99 12:57 PM, Erich Berman at erichberman@yahoo.com wrote: > Why do you want to "support the local guys"? Being > local to AES, too, I've found them not to be very > supportive of me. I shop elsewhere. I have found AES in Milwaukee to be extremely supportive and a good bunch of guys. Sometimes their prices are a little higher than others but that's fine for having someplace I can drive to in about 60 to 90 minutes. Happy Holidays, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 18:44:08 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA27633 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:44:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: From: "Erich Berman" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:43:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] ? - Polarity of VX-1 charging unit Reply-to: erich@berman.org Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912240043.SAA00304@pop02.execpc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Can anyone tell me the polarity of the charging plug for the Yaesu VX-1 HT? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 19:35:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA29469 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:35:16 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:35:00 -0600 From: "Charles R. Schultz" Reply-To: n2pua@cybrtyme.com Organization: 1998 Graduate of Seneca Army Depot X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3862CDC4.59A4EE38@cybrtyme.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The Radio Shack 2.5mm plug/cable part number everybody's been talking about is 42-2003. I only know 'cause I haven't chopped mine up yet. ;^) -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Schultz/ Mailto:n2pua@cybrtyme.com / Home page: http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/n2pua Eastaboga / (Under construction forever!) Alabama / AIM Screen Name: n2pua ICQ ID Number: 11654121 36260 / It's not the thing you fling, but the fling, itself! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 19:49:42 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA29732 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:49:41 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 19:49:24 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "James Kalkowski" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk WOW, thanks to all who replied. That was my first posting and I am just getting started in APRS. It is good to know the help is out there. I found the cable at Radio Shack today and it looks like it will work fine. Although, I wasn't too bright going "non-essential" shopping 36 hours before Christmas.... traffic was terrible! Jim N1GTL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 20:24:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA00596 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:24:05 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: From: "Walter Holmes" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Price, maybe Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:23:42 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000501bf4db5$e64d2ce0$2c988bce@im.hou.compaq.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Anyone happen to know how long the remote head cable is, that comes with the new Kenwood TM700A ? I just ordered mine earlier this evening, but failed to ask that question.. Thanks, Walter/K5WH -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-7210@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-7210@lists.tapr.org] On Behalf Of Erich Berman Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:58 PM To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Price, maybe Why do you want to "support the local guys"? Being local to AES, too, I've found them not to be very supportive of me. I shop elsewhere. --- Jon Ogden wrote: > on 12/23/99 11:23, bobj at bobj@mediaone.net wrote: > > > Burghardt Amature center shows a price for the > d700A: > > > > "Kenwood TM-D700A 2M/70CM > DB MOBILE, WITH TNC, > > 9 659.95" > > That's the best price I've seen yet. AES is at 679, > HRO at $699, RT Systems > at $669, so $659 is great! > > Oh well....placed mine with AES. Like to support > the "local" guys. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: > ERICH@BERMAN.ORG > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: k5wh@houston-intranet.com To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 20:27:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA00692 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:27:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 20:27:37 Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "James Kalkowski" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Ok, since I had such luck with my first question, I'll fire again. The D7A has 15 preset ICON's for symbols but supports over 200. I understand how to get to the others besides the 15 but I do not know what the 2 ASCII codes will produce short of trying each combination and tx-ing. I have checked Kenwoods site but could not come up with anything there. Does anyone know of a web site or have a list to forward? Thanks again Jim N1GTL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 22:29:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA03702 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:29:35 -0600 (CST) From: "John Rodger" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: ? - Polarity of VX-1 charging unit Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:27:12 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The diagram on the NC-66B charger that came with my VX-1 shows the center pin to be plus (+). Hope this helps. John, VE3JR -----Original Message----- From: bounce-htaprs-13549@lists.tapr.org [mailto:bounce-htaprs-13549@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Erich Berman Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 7:44 PM To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] ? - Polarity of VX-1 charging unit Can anyone tell me the polarity of the charging plug for the Yaesu VX-1 HT? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: ve3jr@rac.ca To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 22:32:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA03786 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:32:21 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: From: "Erich Berman" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:32:00 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] RE: ? - Polarity of VX-1 charging unit Reply-to: erich@berman.org Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912240432.WAA03302@pop05.execpc.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks kindly. That'll do it. Merry Christmas. From: "John Rodger" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] RE: ? - Polarity of VX-1 charging unit Date sent: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:27:12 -0500 > The diagram on the NC-66B charger that came with my VX-1 shows the center > pin to be plus (+). > > Hope this helps. > > John, VE3JR > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-13549@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-13549@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Erich Berman > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 7:44 PM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] ? - Polarity of VX-1 charging unit > > > Can anyone tell me the polarity of the charging plug for the Yaesu VX-1 > HT? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: ve3jr@rac.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: ERICH@BERMAN.ORG > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 22:48:40 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA04104 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:48:39 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 22:48:22 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Price, maybe From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/23/99 8:23 PM, Walter Holmes at walterh@houston-intranet.com wrote: > Anyone happen to know how long the remote head cable is, that comes with the > new Kenwood TM700A ? > > I just ordered mine earlier this evening, but failed to ask that question.. Yes, I when I ordered mine today, the guy at AES said it was just a few inches. So I ordered the $80 13 foot cable. Then I got talking to a friend who said that it didn't make sense since the radio head must be remote mounted. Then I was reading one of the ads for it in my AES winter catalog where it mentions that the mounting cable was included. So I called Kenwood. The cable that comes with the radio is 3 meters long or nearly 10 feet. So I called AES back and cancelled the 13 foot cable order saving myself $80! 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 23 23:46:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA07608 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 1999 23:46:10 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 00:46:13 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386308A5.4511@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just to kind of consolidate info here, the 2.5mm stereo plug and/or cable assy. is available from a couple of sources. If you're in a hurry, the local Radio Shack has a complete cable assembly with molded plug available in a 6ft coiled cord with male and female gold-plated contacts, part 42-2003 for $5.99US. (courtesy Charles R. Schultz) If you insist on a straight cord with right-angle molded plug, you can get one of their lower-cost telephone headsets and cannibalize it for the cable/plug. Any of the 43-193, 43-1901, 43-1951, or 43-1976 units are $19.99US. I also found a similar headset at Best Buy for $17.95. If you're willing to be a little more patient, raw plugs and molded cable/plug assemblies are available from Mouser Electronics for $2-3. Here is a list of options (courtesy of N0OTM Joe LaGreek): 172-2204 Black stereo plug, shielded cable $2.97 172-2304 Grey stereo plug, shielded cable $2.97 172-2010 Black stereo 90 deg plug shielded cable $3.96 (over 1000 in stock) Plugs 172-3305 Hi-Rel Black plastic unshielded $2.51 172-3306 Hi-Rel Spring strain relief, shielded $2.80 172-3405 Black Plastic and solder terminal $1.24 172-3406 Shielded handle with spring strain relief and solder terminals $1.79 172-3307 Gold contact with black metal handle, shielded $4.80 Phone 800-346-6873 http://www.mouser.com/catalog/cat_600/106.pdf Remember by comparison, the Kenwood PG-4W serial cable with molded right-angle plug and DA-9S PC connector, including the CD with enhanced manual and memory programming software are $54.95. If you're not an avid do-it-yourselfer, the Kenwood cable is not such a bad deal. BTW -- Kenwood's PG-4W serial cable is a very hardy assembly -- much more robust than the hair-thin GPS cable that comes with the TH-D7. Also note that although the TH-D7 programming software is available on the Kenwood FTP site, the version there is clearly labeled a "beta" release, and it has no help file. Kenwood has chosen to withhold the full version of the software from the FTP site and make it available only for sale on the CD that comes with the PG-4W. (I hope this doesn't signal a change of heart by Kenwood...) Also, FYI, a close-equivalent to the Kenwood PG-3S DC power cable with integral regulator/filter is available at Radio Shack as well. It is billed as a replacemetn radar detector cable, part 270-031A, for $6.99US. Note that the Radio Shack cable has no filter or regulator -- it is a fused (3amp) straight metallic connection. However, I use one in my Pontiac without a problem, and they're fine for use off your power supply or battery in the shack. The unit I have actually has room to cram the 1,000uf electrolytic cap, 7812 TO-220 regulator, and 470uf second electrolytic cap arranged in a tee filter inside the cigarette plug housing, but it hasn't been necessary for me. The only drawback is the 3.4/1.3mm plug is a little too long, and it does not have the detent to hold it into the radio as the Kenwood cable does. I have a suspicion one of the DC cords for a Nokia cellular phone has the right plug, including the detent, but I haven't been able to test. These are usually in the $20-30 range though, so you might as well buy the real Kenwood item. Hope this helps. 73's and happy (and safe) holidays. Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 24 00:58:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA15256 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 00:58:24 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 01:58:22 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700A Price, maybe References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3863198E.4633@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Guys - On top of that, if I remember right having seen the radio at the Tampa Hamfest in November, the separation cable is a 4-conductor cable with telephone-style modular connectors on each end! If my memory serves me right, what the heck would justify $80 for a telephone extension cord available almost anywhere??? Yeah, maybe it's a more durable cable, or even shielded, but still... Ed Behl, KG4ALG Jon Ogden wrote: > > on 12/23/99 8:23 PM, Walter Holmes at walterh@houston-intranet.com wrote: > > > Anyone happen to know how long the remote head cable is, that comes with the > > new Kenwood TM700A ? > > > > I just ordered mine earlier this evening, but failed to ask that question.. > > The cable that comes with the radio is 3 meters long or nearly 10 feet. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 24 07:12:29 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id HAA02529 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:12:27 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Paul Jacques To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Old TNC Upgradeable? Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 05:11:12 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi ...., I'm getting back into packet radio and was wondering if my old TNC-2 (1987) is still useable as is or does it need upgradeing? The EEPROM says "TNC-2 1.1.1". I emailed TAPR but they never responded. I also have a Heath TNC. Is that still useable? Thanks, Paul Jacques (WB6IWT) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 24 10:32:17 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA06874 for ; Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:32:15 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:33:20 -0500 From: Stan Horzepa Reply-To: wa1lou@arrl.net X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3863A050.14D28D69@ct2.nai.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hello Jim, These tables come from the SYMBOLS.TXT README file of APRS (DOS): Using the left hand tables, you enter the first two characters in your TH-D7, for example, /! for police. Using the right hand tables, replace the / for a \, for example, \! for emergency. Ignore the XYZ columns in both tables. I hope that helps! 73, Stan, WA1LOU /$ XYZ BASIC SYMBOL TABLE XYZ OTHER SYMBOL TABLE ( -- --- ------------------------- -- --- ---------------------- /! BB Police, Sheriff OB EMERGENCY (!) /" BC reserved (had been rain) OC reserved /# BD DIGI (white center) OD# NUMBERED STAR (green) /$ BE PHONE OE Bank or ATM (green box) /% BF DX CLUSTER OF /& BG HF GATEway OG# NUMBERED DIAMOND /' BH Small AIRCRAFT (SSID = 7) OH Crash site /( BI CLOUDY OI CLOUDY /) BJ avail (Mic moved to m) OJ /* BK SnowMobile OK SNOW /+ BL Red Cross OL Church /, BM Boy Scouts OM Girl Scouts /- BN House QTH (VHF) - ON House (HF) /. BO X OO Vicinity Ambiguous Plot (NEW) // BP Dot OP /$ XYZ PRIMARY SYMBOL TABLE XYZ ALTERNATE SYMBOL TABLE ( -- --- ------------------------- -- --- -------------------------- /0 P0 Numeral circle A0# NUMBERED CIRCLE /1 P1 Numeral circle A1 /2 P2 Numeral circle A2 /3 P3 Numeral circle A3 /4 P4 Numeral circle A4 /5 P5 Numeral circle A5 /6 P6 Numeral circle A6 /7 P7 Numeral circle A7 /8 P8 Numeral circle A8 /9 P9 Numeral circle A9 Gas Station (blue pump) /: MR FIRE : NR Hail /; MS Campground NS Park/Picnic area /< MT Motorcycle (SSID = 10) NT ADVISORY /= MU RAILROAD ENGINE NU /> MV CAR (SSID = 9) NV# NUMBERED CAR /? MW SERVER for FIles NW INFO Kiosk (Blue box with ?) /@ MX HC FUTURE predict (dot) NX HURICANE/Trop-Storm /A PA Aid Station AA# NUMBERED BOX /B PB BBS AB Blowing Snow /C PC Canoe AC Coast Guard /D PD AD Drizzle /E PE EYEBALL (Eye catcher) AE Smoke /F PF AF Freezing rain /G PG Grid Square (6 digit) AG Snow Shower /H PH HOTEL (blue bed symbol) AH Haze /I PI Tcp-Ip AI Rain Shower /J PJ AJ Lightening /K PK School AK Kenwood /L PL avail AL Lighthouse /M PM MacAPRS AM /N PN NTS Station AN Navigation Buoy /O PO BALLOON (SSID = 11) AO /P PP Police AP Parking /Q PQ TBD AQ QUAKE /R PR REC. VEHICLE (SSID = 13) AR Restaurant /S PS SHUTTLE AS Satellite/Pacsat /T PT SSTV AT Thunderstorm /U PU BUS (SSID = 2) AU SUNNY /V PV ATV AV VORTAC Nav Aid /W PW National WX Service Site AW NUMBERED NWS site (NWS options) /X PX HELO (SSID = 6) AX Pharmacy Rx /Y PY YACHT (sail) (SSID = 5) AY /Z PZ WinAPRS AZ /[ HS Jogger DS Wall Cloud / HT TRIANGLE (DF) DT /] HU PBBS DU /^ HV LARGE AIRCRAFT DV# NUMBERED Aircraft /_ HW WEATHER Station (blue) - DW NUMBERED WX site (green digi) /` HX Dish Antenna DX Rain /$ XYZ LOWER CASE SYMBOL TABLE XYZ SECONDARY SYMBOL TABLE ( -- --- ------------------------- -- --- -------------------------- /a LA AMBULANCE (SSID = 1) SA ARRL ARES etc /b LB BIKE (SSID = 4) SB Blowing Dust/Sand /c LC tbd SC NUMBERED Civil Defense (RACES) /d LD Dual Garage (Fire dept) SD DX spot by callsign /e LE HORSE (equestrian) SE Sleet /f LF FIRE TRUCK (SSID = 3) SF Funnel Cloud /g LG Glider SG Gale Flags /h LH HOSPITAL SH HAM store /i LI IOTA (islands on the air) SI Indoor BOXn digipeater (w overlay) /j LJ JEEP (SSID-12) SJ WorkZone (Steam Shovel) /k LK TRUCK (SSID = 14) SK /l LL avail SL Area Locations (box,circles,etc) /m LM Mic-Repeater SM Value Signpost (3 digit display) /n LN Node SN# NUMBERED TRIANGLE /o LO EOC SO small circle /p LP ROVER (puppy) SP Partly Cloudy /q LQ GRID SQ shown above 128 m SQ /r LR ANTENNA SR Restrooms /s LS SHIP (pwr boat) SSID-8) SS# NUMBERED SHIP/boat (top view) /t LT TRUCK STOP ST Tornado /u LU TRUCK (18 wheeler) SU# NUMBERED TRUCK /v LV VAN (SSID = 15) /w LW WATER station SW Flooding /x LX xAPRS (Unix) SX /y LY YAGI @ QTH SY /z LZ SZ /{ J1 \ Q1 Fog /| J2 reserved (Stream Switch) \ Q2 /} J3 \ Q3 /~ J3 reserved (Stream Switch) Q4 James Kalkowski wrote: > > Ok, since I had such luck with my first question, I'll fire again. The D7A > has 15 preset ICON's for symbols but supports over 200. I understand how > to get to the others besides the 15 but I do not know what the 2 ASCII > codes will produce short of trying each combination and tx-ing. I have > checked Kenwoods site but could not come up with anything there. Does > anyone know of a web site or have a list to forward? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 25 00:24:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA03017 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 00:24:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 21:27:01 -0500 From: tyeatman X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38642B75.B331C2D8@aei.ca> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Well Ed, that was a great infomative post. Merry Cristmas to all. 73's VA2TPY "Edward A. Behl" wrote: > Just to kind of consolidate info here, the 2.5mm stereo plug and/or > cable assy. is available from a couple of sources. > > If you're in a hurry, the local Radio Shack has a complete cable > assembly with molded plug available in a 6ft coiled cord with male and > female gold-plated contacts, part 42-2003 for $5.99US. (courtesy Charles > R. Schultz) If you insist on a straight cord with right-angle molded > plug, you can get one of their lower-cost telephone headsets and > cannibalize it for the cable/plug. Any of the 43-193, 43-1901, 43-1951, > or 43-1976 units are $19.99US. I also found a similar headset at Best > Buy for $17.95. > > If you're willing to be a little more patient, raw plugs and molded > cable/plug assemblies are available from Mouser Electronics for $2-3. > Here is a list of options (courtesy of N0OTM Joe LaGreek): > 172-2204 Black stereo plug, shielded cable $2.97 > 172-2304 Grey stereo plug, shielded cable $2.97 > 172-2010 Black stereo 90 deg plug shielded cable $3.96 (over 1000 in > stock) Plugs > 172-3305 Hi-Rel Black plastic unshielded $2.51 > 172-3306 Hi-Rel Spring strain relief, shielded $2.80 > 172-3405 Black Plastic and solder terminal $1.24 > 172-3406 Shielded handle with spring strain relief and solder terminals > $1.79 > 172-3307 Gold contact with black metal handle, shielded $4.80 > Phone 800-346-6873 http://www.mouser.com/catalog/cat_600/106.pdf > > Remember by comparison, the Kenwood PG-4W serial cable with molded > right-angle plug and DA-9S PC connector, including the CD with enhanced > manual and memory programming software are $54.95. If you're not an avid > do-it-yourselfer, the Kenwood cable is not such a bad deal. BTW -- > Kenwood's PG-4W serial cable is a very hardy assembly -- much more > robust than the hair-thin GPS cable that comes with the TH-D7. Also note > that although the TH-D7 programming software is available on the Kenwood > FTP site, the version there is clearly labeled a "beta" release, and it > has no help file. Kenwood has chosen to withhold the full version of the > software from the FTP site and make it available only for sale on the CD > that comes with the PG-4W. (I hope this doesn't signal a change of heart > by Kenwood...) > > Also, FYI, a close-equivalent to the Kenwood PG-3S DC power cable with > integral regulator/filter is available at Radio Shack as well. It is > billed as a replacemetn radar detector cable, part 270-031A, for > $6.99US. Note that the Radio Shack cable has no filter or regulator -- > it is a fused (3amp) straight metallic connection. However, I use one in > my Pontiac without a problem, and they're fine for use off your power > supply or battery in the shack. The unit I have actually has room to > cram the 1,000uf electrolytic cap, 7812 TO-220 regulator, and 470uf > second electrolytic cap arranged in a tee filter inside the cigarette > plug housing, but it hasn't been necessary for me. The only drawback is > the 3.4/1.3mm plug is a little too long, and it does not have the detent > to hold it into the radio as the Kenwood cable does. I have a suspicion > one of the DC cords for a Nokia cellular phone has the right plug, > including the detent, but I haven't been able to test. These are usually > in the $20-30 range though, so you might as well buy the real Kenwood > item. > > Hope this helps. > > 73's and happy (and safe) holidays. > > Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: tyeatman@aei.ca > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 25 14:05:39 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id OAA26923 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 14:05:37 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 19:55:30 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Old TNC Upgradeable? From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > I'm getting back into packet radio and was wondering if my old > TNC-2 (1987) is > still useable as is or does it need upgradeing? The EEPROM says "TNC-2 > 1.1.1". I emailed TAPR but they never responded. I also have a Heath TNC. Is > that still useable? I don't know is the simple answer - but basic functions such as DIGI and BEACON are all you need to use it with APRS - so my guess is it would be fine. I have two TINY2 TNCs and have just upgraded their firmware from 1 to 5! Quite a few new commands, better GPS support and more intelligent DIGIpeating. Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 25 16:03:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA29464 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 16:03:57 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 17:03:27 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Idea for the road? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, 22 Dec 1999, Tony Arnerich wrote: > >SOLUTION Maybe? THis trip I will try entering my status as: > >"What Freq am I in?" > > I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts that the most common response could be: > "144.390 apparently" as in, not understanding the question.. Yep, problem is it must be 20 chars or less. Oh well. I agree. Probably a dumb idea. Never got a nibble in 800 miles.. Also, though, was out of APRS range through all of southern VA or about half the trip... Lots of holes along I95 and I85. Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sat Dec 25 17:00:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA00688 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 1999 17:00:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Bill Kearns" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] politically correct good tidings Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 15:00:50 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004501bf4f2b$e40cdee0$03000004@bill> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Dear Friends - Please accept with no obligation implied or implicit my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral, celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, and pursuant to those religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of the lack thereof. The aforementioned best wishes also include a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2000, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only "AMERICA" in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishes. By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms. This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, is void where prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year, or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first. Warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish of equal or greater value at the sole discretion of the wisher. Carefully Yours, Bill Kearns WB6JAR --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 26 06:09:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA02437 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 06:09:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Peter J Anderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Compatibility Question Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 05:07:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01BF4F5F.225D71E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <009101bf4f9a$0360d9e0$8c0ff5d1@Peter> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BF4F5F.225D71E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I received for the Christmas season a Garmin GPS 12, and a 3Com Palm = IIIe. Will these be compatible to work with the D7A? And if there is = anyone who has information for me You can post it to the net or to me = directly. I am also setting up the rig in a chest pack from Motorola = but I need to have the plugs at a 90 degree angle to avoid tearing them = out of the radio as to have the radio face forward puts the plugs on the = side facing the pocket on the right. Does anyone know of a manufacturer = that makes the right angle plugs? I also have received the VC-H1 as = well and was wondering if there was a problem running all at once as far = as RFI or the like. Any specific programs that run better than others = would be welcome as well as I am new to this and want all the input I = can find from others who have had both good and bad experiences. Send = me all the information you think nessacery for me to get the rig up and = running. I thank you for the info in advance Peter Anderson Communications Consultants Specialists N0WRE ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BF4F5F.225D71E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I received for the Christmas season a = Garmin GPS=20 12, and a 3Com Palm IIIe. Will these be compatible to work with the = D7A? =20 And if there is anyone who has information for me You can post it to the = net or=20 to me directly.  I am also setting up the rig in a chest pack from = Motorola=20 but I need to have the plugs at a 90 degree angle to avoid tearing them = out of=20 the radio as to have the radio face forward puts the plugs on the side = facing=20 the pocket on the right.  Does anyone know of a manufacturer that = makes the=20 right angle plugs?  I also have received the VC-H1 as well and was=20 wondering if there was a problem running all at once as far as RFI or = the=20 like.  Any specific programs that run better than others would=20 be welcome as well as I am new to this and want all the input I can = find=20 from others who have had both good and bad experiences.  Send me = all the=20 information you think nessacery for me to get the rig up and=20 running.
 
I thank you for the info in = advance
 
Peter Anderson
Communications = Consultants=20 Specialists
N0WRE
------=_NextPart_000_008E_01BF4F5F.225D71E0-- __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 26 09:29:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA06236 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 09:29:20 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 09:29:02 -0600 From: Dan Marx Reply-To: danemarx@worldnet.att.net X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] APRS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3866343E.9BBDF3E2@worldnet.att.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Good Morning, I am in need of some guidance and advice if you have the time. I have technology overload as I call it. Wednesday I received a new notebook computer and also a Kenwood TH-D7a. I would love to get set up with APRS and do not own a GPS. I have been reading everything possible on the internet but still have many questions. I am a private pilot and several friends have the Garmin GPS-195 moving map and would consider using that unit if it interfaces well with the TH-D7a but can actually use any GPS that is user friendly. I called Garmin and they do not sell the 6 pin plug for the 195 and their computer data cable is $30. I do not have any cables or plugs now for the TH-D7a and the ham I bought it from is looking for the cable that comes with the radio. I was told the radio has been modified for out of band transmit and also has been upgraded by Kenwood. Is there anyway to check to verify the upgrade was done by Kenwood? What cables do you recommend to connect the radio to a GPS and also connect to my new notebook. Also what software should I get (using windows 98 on a Pentium III)? Your help is appreciated. 73, Dan --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Sun Dec 26 16:18:35 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA18799 for ; Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:18:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:18:14 Subject: [htaprs] Re: APRS To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "James Kalkowski" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Dan: I am a bit new to APRS myself however I can give you a small bit of advice on a GPS. I too was looking for a GPS to use with my TH-D7A. I have a Garmin GPSIII but it is mounted in my van and I also think it is too nice a unit to risk damaging it by tossing it in and out of brief cases like I would be doing. I was going to buy a Garmin 12 but after researching it, I found it requires 8 volts, not 12 volts like most of the other Garmins. You can buy Garmins cigarette adapter for the Garmin 12 for about $30 and then you must use that. Figuring it would be easier to use a 12 volt unit, I found a Garmin 45XL in my local paper for $100 and bought that. All you really need is a unit that will output NMEA data, and although the 45XL is technically a "marine gps", it works fine for what I need. The best part is the cables I have already made up for the GPSIII will all work with the 45XL but they would not have worked with the Garmin 12. You can buy the end connectors for the Garmins for $5 each here in the internet and just pop a few together. Also, look back several postings to answer your question about the data cable and where to get one. -73- Jim N1GTL --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 27 04:22:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id EAA23237 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 04:21:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Peter J Anderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] (High Priority) Software info needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 04:37:11 -0600 X-Message-Id: <000101bf5054$42fcc540$5206f5d1@bambi> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by tapr.org id EAA23237 I have a Palm IIIe and was wanting to know if there is a program that runs better than others and is fairly simple to use as well as o am new to the htaprs format. If you have any suggestions please give me a shout either to the list or to me personally. If there is any information that you would like to send me I would appreciate it. Thanks Peter Anderson Communications Consultants Specialists Phone: (970) 392-9153 Mobile:(970) 391-1330 Pager:(970) 350-3434 __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 27 09:47:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA00236 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:47:10 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: rwf@mail.mindspring.com Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:43:41 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ralph Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.2.19991226184213.00beb100@mail.mindspring.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Be ready to be WAY overcharged for shipping. My shipping was about 3 times the price of the cable (which could have been put in an envelope and mailed for .50) Eric Horst wrote: >Mouser Electronics has them: part number 172-2010, 2.5mm 90 degree angle >stereo plug molded onto a 72" shielded black cable. The qty 1 price is >$3.96. Or buy 10 like I did and get them for $3.30 ea. Buy a few and >make both a long cable for home or car and a short cable for when you >carry it on your person. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 27 13:47:19 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA07142 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:47:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 13:47:1 Subject: [htaprs] What's up with aprs.net? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Steve Sande" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk I haven't been able to get onto www.aprs.net the last couple of days to look at the javAPRS maps. Anyone know if their server is down? In other news, glad to hear that the TM-D700 is about to ship. Something new to spend my money on!!! Steve kc0ezh@arrl.net --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 27 18:43:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA15859 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 18:43:21 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul Knupke, Jr." To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:42:35 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I've found this is true on most small items. I ordered a $.99 part for Yaesu a few years ago and it cost me $7.00 to ship it! I should have had them put it an envelope and mail it USPS to me. > >Mouser Electronics has them: part number 172-2010, 2.5mm 90 degree angle > >stereo plug molded onto a 72" shielded black cable. The qty 1 price is > >$3.96. Or buy 10 like I did and get them for $3.30 ea. Buy a few and > >make both a long cable for home or car and a short cable for when you > >carry it on your person. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 27 19:36:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id TAA17396 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 19:36:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:36:11 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Duncan Smith Subject: [htaprs] Re: Garmin GPS 12XL Cc: toast@portone.com List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk >Subject: Re: APRS >From: "James Kalkowski" >Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:18:14 ... > ... I was going to buy a Garmin 12 but after >researching it, I found it requires 8 volts, not 12 volts like most of the >other Garmins. ... The Garmin GPS 12XL runs on 12 volts. ^^ d KB1END --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Mon Dec 27 20:55:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA19574 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:55:04 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 20:54:33 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Kenwood radios From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/26/99 8:43 PM, Ralph at rwf@bsrg.org wrote: > Be ready to be WAY overcharged for shipping. My shipping was about 3 times > the price of the cable (which could have been put in an envelope and mailed > for .50) > One must realize something about distributors: They make their money typically by stocking items and selling in volume to manufacturers. When you or I call up and want ONE of an item, it costs them the same amount of money to process that order as it does if you bought 10,000 of them. If they charged you $3.30 for one piece and 50 cents to ship it, they would go broke. Distributors actually hate small orders like this. That's why they many times have a minimum order charge or if not, then they charge a stiff handling fee as Ralph notes. It's all to cover the cost of a nuisance order that costs them a lot of money to process. I for one am grateful that many of the distys will even sell to a guy wanting a couple of pieces. I am happy for this and when I need something, I won't be bothered that I have to pay extra shipping. That's the price we pay for being able to get our parts and the convenience of them! 73, Jon KE9NA > Eric Horst wrote: > > >> Mouser Electronics has them: part number 172-2010, 2.5mm 90 degree angle >> stereo plug molded onto a 72" shielded black cable. The qty 1 price is >> $3.96. Or buy 10 like I did and get them for $3.30 ea. Buy a few and >> make both a long cable for home or car and a short cable for when you >> carry it on your person. -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 28 17:45:10 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA09159 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:45:09 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Paul Jacques To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Software Programming the TH-7DA Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:43:48 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk How do you make a PG-4W programming cable for the TH-D7A ? Is it the same connector as the GPS connector? What is the serial port configuration of the PC? The beta PC software says that the instruction manual gives cable wiring info but it doesn't. Has anyone tried the software out yet? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 28 17:46:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id RAA09181 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 17:46:30 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: milnes@openix.com Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:45:53 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ralph Milnes Subject: [htaprs] Accessories - What to buy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991228184553.00794330@openix.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just got a D7A and I'm contemplating which accessories to order. Comments would be welcome on the following. I plan on using the radio for mobile comms, but not normally as a car tracker (already got that handled). Reason: * Comet SMA-24 17" antenna Better reception $23 * Kenwood BT-11 Battery Case So I can use alkalines in an emergency $18 * Kenwood PG-4W PC Cable To program radio & use it to feed PC packet programs $56 * Kenwood SC-47B Softcase To protect the radio $16 * Kewwood SMC-34 Spkr/Mike Easier voice comms -- but do I really need it? $40 * Maha MH-PB-39 1050 mAh batt. 2nd Ni-Cd for when the first dies $60 * Connectworks SB-312 BNC to SMA adapter to hook up other antennas $10 Any diferences of opinion on any item? Got a better idea? Did you buy something that you're not really using and would suggest not buying? Let me know if I'm on the right track or about to waste my money. I've decided to hold off on the cigarette lighter plug for now -- out of money; I can use the batteries. (Man, all this really adds up!!!!) Is a Service Manual worth getting? (Note: I'm not hardware facile.) Ralph, KC2RLM Chatham NJ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 28 18:12:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA09928 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:12:08 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Lloyd Mitchell" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: PC cable for Th-d7a Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:09:47 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <004901bf5191$060a2860$f30ffea9@0015877040> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Try this pinout from the PC port I found this on the web at http://www.qsl.net/n6qab/microaprs.htm 3 conductor plug to TH D7A Sleeve = gnd ring = red tip = wht DB-9 (female) Pin 2 = wht Pin 3 = red Pin 5 = gnd Lloyd KD4HTW ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Jacques To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 1999 6:43 PM Subject: [htaprs] Software Programming the TH-7DA > > How do you make a PG-4W programming cable for the TH-D7A ? Is it the > same connector as the GPS connector? What is the serial port configuration > of the PC? The beta PC software says that the instruction manual gives cable > wiring info but it doesn't. Has anyone tried the software out yet? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kd4htw@bellsouth.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 28 18:16:58 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id SAA10045 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:16:52 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:16:25 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Software Programming the TH-7DA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386944C9.59E7C998@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi Paul, the manual shows you the wiring from the pc to the "PC" plug on the side of the D7... The pc side is usual the DB9 type and only using pins 2, 3, and 5 . On the D7 side, you use the small stereo plug. Pin 5 from the DB9 goes to the sleeve, pin 2 of DB9 to tip and pin 3 of DB9 goes to ring.. Turn on the D7 without the TNC enabled, and then start the D7 software.. You then tell the software to read the data from the D7.. Now you can minipulate all the memories or whatever.. Works like a champ.. Nice thing about it, you can save all the stuff to a file after and have it immediately available in case of a complete reset of the D7 occurs and you had all two hundred channels filled up!!!! 73! Paul Jacques wrote: > > How do you make a PG-4W programming cable for the TH-D7A ? Is it the > same connector as the GPS connector? What is the serial port configuration > of the PC? The beta PC software says that the instruction manual gives cable > wiring info but it doesn't. Has anyone tried the software out yet? > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 28 20:43:23 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA13811 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 20:43:15 -0600 (CST) To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 19:41:23 MST Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - What to buy? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3-27,29-52,54-55,57,59,61-73 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Jim Baremore List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <19991228.194132.-361947.0.K5QQ@juno.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 18:45:53 -0500 Ralph Milnes writes: > Just got a D7A and I'm contemplating which accessories to order. > Comments would be welcome on the following. > Reason: > * Comet SMA-24 17" antenna Better reception $23 They work pretty good, for a whip but it turns out to be a bit of a nuisance when you are hiking. With the radio on your belt, the whip keeps hitting under your arm etc. Some tests we have run seem to indicate the rubber duck that comes with it works pretty good although we are out here in NM without any trees to adsorb the signal... > * Kenwood BT-11 Battery Case So I can use alkalines in an > emergency $18 Yes, This is worth doing if you carry it around at all. > * Kenwood PG-4W PC Cable To program radio & use it to feed PC > packet programs $56 No. You can make it yourself for a $4 cable and a db9 connector. The software is available at their web site. > * Kenwood SC-47B Softcase To protect the radio $16 yes, good idea but it is sometimes hard to see the top of the display with it on. But if you are hiking or otherwise using it, it is worth it. In addition, some users have reported the belt clip will break off the back of the HT and that clip is part of the battery pack so you have broke an expensive part... The soft case has a metal battery clip on it and not only will it not break but it will save you the cost of a battery pack!! > * Kewwood SMC-34 Spkr/Mike Easier voice comms -- but do I > really need it? $40 A friend of mine gave me a MFJ speaker mike and it's a lot cheaper and it works great. Get it... > * Maha MH-PB-39 1050 mAh batt. 2nd Ni-Cd for when the first dies > $60 Why?? You have the dry cell pack and you will find that just using it as an APRS tracker/monitor, the battery lasts a long time. If you talk a lot on the other side of the radio, then your mileage will vary. > * Connectworks SB-312 BNC to SMA adapter to hook up other > antennas $10 I have never been a fan of these as the only other HT antenna I would put on it would be one with a SMA connector and if I were going to put a mobile antenna etc on it, I would get a SMA/BNC cable and avoid the stress on the unit. What I use for a mobile antenna is the 1/4 wave Hustler UGM (?) and I cut off the BNC and soldered on a SMA. That makes a very nice travelling antenna. > I've decided to hold off on the cigarette lighter plug for now -- Some folks have reported problems with the unit resetting etc and their problems solved when they used the Kenwood charger plug. I got the $2 battery plug and at the cigarette lighter plug end, put a 300uFd cap across the wires. No problems with that configuration. good luck Jim Baremore K5QQ --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 28 22:08:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA16017 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:08:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:8:7 Subject: [htaprs] Re: What's up with aprs.net? To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "Steve Sande" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk Never mind...it's back up. However, I do have a question about javAPRS. On very rare occasions I will fire up the ol' TH-D7A, let it work for 30 minutes or so, and then I can pull up one of the US javAPRS maps from www.aprs.net and see my station listed on there. In case you're wondering, I prefer to do this rather than cable my TH-D7 to my PC and run WinAPRS. My question is this - why doesn't this work all the time? I know my packets are getting out there, since they're repeated back to me. I get APRS packets from my local internet gate on a regular basis, but it doesn't seem like my packets are being repeated to the rest of the world over the internet... I've tried using both RELAY,WIDE and WIDE3-3 (the latter is what a local APRSer recommended)... Thanks in advance for any answers you may be able to provide! Steve KC0EZH --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Tue Dec 28 23:37:59 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA20278 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 1999 23:37:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:38:58 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Software Programming the TH-7DA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <38699E72.46F9@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Paul- According to Pages 52 and 63 of the current TH-D7 manual, the GPS and PC serial ports are identical, though the data rate defaults to 9600 bps for the PC port, and 4800 bps for the GPS port. You'll find wiring instructions on page 52 if you have the new enhanced manual (B62-1004-10 on the front cover). The 2.5mm phone plugs have three conductors; tip, ring, and sleeve, as shown below. ________ sleeve ring tip / |_______ __ __ | | | | \ | |_______|__|__/ | | gnd RxD TxD | / |_______/ \ / The sleeve is the signal common for the data lines. Tip is transmit data *from* the TH-D7. The Ring conductor is receive data *toward* the TH-D7. On the GPS cable supplied with my TH-D7, the Sleeve contact is connected to the cable shield braid. Tip is connected to a white wire. Ring is connected to a red wire. To make the equivalent of PG-4W cable, connect the GPS cables as shown in the table below. Kenwood TH-D7 GPS Cable used for PG-4W Connections -------------------------------------------------- GPS Cable TH-D7 Signal Direction PC Signal 9-Pin 25-Pin ------------- ------------ --------- --------- ----- ------ Shield (sleeve) Ground <--> Ground 5 7 Red (ring) Rx Data <--- Tx Data 3 2 White (tip) Tx Data ---> Rx Data 2 3 One bit of advice -- as you no-doubt have noticed, the GPS cable conductors are made with two strands of copper about the thickness of a human hair (well, not really, but it is a mighty delicate cable). Be sure to allow plenty of strain relief slack in the cable between the PC connector pins and the cable clamp in the connector hood so that the tiny wires aren't easily broken. As far as the Kenwood MCP-D7 software available on their FTP site, I use it and it works fine, although Kenwood states clearly on the FTP site that the software is a *beta* version. If they have released a final version, it is only available with the CD-ROM included with their PG-4W cable. I can even cut and paste (channel by channel) between the TM-V7 programmer and the TH-D7 programmer. I presume the same would be true between any of the Kenwood transceivers that are PC programmable. One other note: Although I did not buy one, I have studied the Kenwood PG-4W package, which includes a cable with molded connectors on each end. This cable assembly is MUCH more rugged than the frail GPS cable supplied with the radio. It also is equipped with clamp-around ferrite RF chokes at each end of the cable to trap stray RF traveling between the radio and PC. At $54.95, it's a little (no, on second thought, a lot) steap for a cable alone (and this one contains no electronics), but it does include a CD-ROM with a copy of the MCP-D7 software and a PDF version of the new TH-D7 user manual. (Now, if it included a PDF of the service manual, it would be a great deal!) I hope this helps. 73 and have a Happy New Year! Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG Paul Jacques wrote: > > How do you make a PG-4W programming cable for the TH-D7A ? Is it the > same connector as the GPS connector? What is the serial port configuration > of the PC? The beta PC software says that the instruction manual gives cable > wiring info but it doesn't. Has anyone tried the software out yet? > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 00:30:31 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA27282 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:30:30 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 22:32:52 -0800 From: "Paul R. Jacques" Reply-To: paulj@rain.org Organization: Peppertree Ranch/Peppertree Consulting X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Programming the TH-D7A---GOTTA IT! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3869AB14.1125A248@rain.org> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for all the help gang!!! I had to load the PC program, Pwr-Off-Pwr-On the D7 then perform a read. Getting rid of the gender changer and Null Modem I was using probably helped also. The only problem is now when I connect that cable to my GPS cable, I do have to use the Null Modem. Thanks again for all the help!!!!!! 73's Paul, WB6IWT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 00:50:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA27716 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:50:25 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:50:20 -0600 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - What to buy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991229004852.006e5cc8@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk At 06:45 PM 12/28/99 -0500, you wrote: >Just got a D7A and I'm contemplating which accessories to order. Comments >would be welcome on the following. I plan on using the radio for mobile >comms, but not normally as a car tracker (already got that handled). > Reason: >* Comet SMA-24 17" antenna Better reception $23 A good choice. I use a 17" antenna by Pryme and I love it. the only thing is to make sure it is a wire antenna. I don't have a lot of confidence in the SMA connector as far a strength is concerned. >* Kenwood BT-11 Battery Case So I can use alkalines in an emergency $18 Another good choice. When the nicad poop out you can always go to Rat Shack and buy alkalines. >* Kenwood PG-4W PC Cable To program radio & use it to feed PC packet >programs $56 Contrary to what a lot of folks on this reflector think I feel this is good deal. You not only get the cable, which is much better than anything you or I can build and I have built several, but you also get the "second" manual which includes a later version of the programming software and a lot of good information about APRS. Including the INIT file for the THD7A that you need for APRS+. >* Kenwood SC-47B Softcase To protect the radio $16 Don't waste your money. I have two of the soft cases and never use them. The display is hard to see and I have had trouble punching several buttons at the same time. Use the belt clips. Or better still, get one of the cool swivel clips like they use on cell phones. >* Kewwood SMC-34 Spkr/Mike Easier voice comms -- but do I really need it? >$40 Sure, but would recommend the MFJ unit or a headset with a boom mike. The MFJ unit looks identical to the Kenwood and is cheaper. I have both the speaker mike and headset and use the headset more. You might not use it that much but when you need it, nothing can replace it. I use mine at public service events. >* Maha MH-PB-39 1050 mAh batt. 2nd Ni-Cd for when the first dies $60 You bet! I have two nicad packs and the dry cell adapter. The dry cell adapter is OK for emergencies but I believe that it will cause to radio to put out less power due to less input power. >* Connectworks SB-312 BNC to SMA adapter to hook up other >antennas $10 Don't know about that brand but I have picked up several of these jewels at Hamfest for $2-3.00 each. Get several, they are easily lost. > >Any diferences of opinion on any item? Got a better idea? Did you buy >something that you're not really using and would suggest not buying? Let me >know if I'm on the right track or about to waste my money. > >I've decided to hold off on the cigarette lighter plug for now -- out of >money; I can use the batteries. (Man, all this really adds up!!!!) Stay with the Kenwood adapter. It works. When you get the money of course! > >Is a Service Manual worth getting? (Note: I'm not hardware facile.) > >Ralph, KC2RLM >Chatham NJ > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: railfan@flash.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 03:34:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id DAA10315 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 03:34:24 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: From: "Paul Anderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:36:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - What to buy? Reply-to: vr2yrc@harts.org.hk CC: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Priority: normal In-reply-to: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <199912290933.RAA19755@imsp073.netvigator.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I couldn't get the BT-11 battery case to work with my TH-D7. Has anyone else had this problem ? Finally I gave up and use a 6 cell generic AA case and the mini DC case, which is clumsy and ugly but at least it does work. 73 Paul VR2YRC. On 29 Dec 99, at 0:50, GPersons wrote: > At 06:45 PM 12/28/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Just got a D7A and I'm contemplating which accessories to order. > >Comments would be welcome on the following. I plan on using the > >radio for mobile comms, but not normally as a car tracker (already > >got that handled). > > Reason: > >* Comet SMA-24 17" antenna Better reception $23 > > A good choice. I use a 17" antenna by Pryme and I love it. the only > thing is to make sure it is a wire antenna. I don't have a lot of > confidence in the SMA connector as far a strength is concerned. > > >* Kenwood BT-11 Battery Case So I can use alkalines in an > >emergency $18 > Another good choice. When the nicad poop out you can always go to Rat > Shack and buy alkalines. > > >* Kenwood PG-4W PC Cable To program radio & use it to feed PC > >packet programs $56 > > Contrary to what a lot of folks on this reflector think I feel this is > good deal. You not only get the cable, which is much better than > anything you or I can build and I have built several, but you also get > the "second" manual which includes a later version of the programming > software and a lot of good information about APRS. Including the INIT > file for the THD7A that you need for APRS+. > > >* Kenwood SC-47B Softcase To protect the radio $16 > > Don't waste your money. I have two of the soft cases and never use > them. The display is hard to see and I have had trouble punching > several buttons at the same time. Use the belt clips. Or better still, > get one of the cool swivel clips like they use on cell phones. > > >* Kewwood SMC-34 Spkr/Mike Easier voice comms -- but do I really > >need it? $40 > > Sure, but would recommend the MFJ unit or a headset with a boom mike. > The MFJ unit looks identical to the Kenwood and is cheaper. I have > both the speaker mike and headset and use the headset more. You might > not use it that much but when you need it, nothing can replace it. I > use mine at public service events. > > >* Maha MH-PB-39 1050 mAh batt. 2nd Ni-Cd for when the first dies $60 > > You bet! I have two nicad packs and the dry cell adapter. The dry cell > adapter is OK for emergencies but I believe that it will cause to > radio to put out less power due to less input power. > > >* Connectworks SB-312 BNC to SMA adapter to hook up other > >antennas $10 > > Don't know about that brand but I have picked up several of these > jewels at Hamfest for $2-3.00 each. Get several, they are easily lost. > > >Any diferences of opinion on any item? Got a better idea? Did you > buy >something that you're not really using and would suggest not > buying? Let me >know if I'm on the right track or about to waste my > money. > >I've decided to hold off on the cigarette lighter plug for > now -- out of >money; I can use the batteries. (Man, all this really > adds up!!!!) > > Stay with the Kenwood adapter. It works. When you get the money of > course! > >Is a Service Manual worth getting? (Note: I'm not hardware > facile.) > >Ralph, KC2RLM >Chatham NJ > >--- >You are currently > subscribed to htaprs as: railfan@flash.net >To unsubscribe send a > blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: vr2yrc@harts.org.hk > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 08:16:32 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id IAA15405 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 08:16:32 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Foley Mark A SMSgt WL/MLS-OLR To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] TH-D7A Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:16:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Is there a setting to prevent the D7 from transmitting (upon power-up and having Data channel enabled) a position report until it receives (correct)posistion information from a connected GPS receiver? Mary, NA4V --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 09:41:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA17913 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:41:47 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: railfan@pop.flash.net Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:41:31 -0600 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: GPersons Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - What to buy? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.32.19991229093615.006c9f2c@pop.flash.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk APRS+ has initialization files that sets up the parameters for the TNC you are using. Check page 42 on the disc. It is under APRS program setup. Hope this helps! Gary at 09:52 AM 12/29/99 -0500, you wrote: >Gary, > >What does the comment below refer to? Sorry about my ignorance, but couldn't find >it on the disc from Kenwood. > >Thanks and best for the new year, > >Howard > >GPersons wrote: > > >> Including the INIT file for the THD7A that you need for APRS+. > > >-- >Help eradicate Pediatric Brain Tumors >http://go.to/nerfk >Join our ride 20 Aug 2000 > >Howard Hecht WA1LWD >P.O. Box 3483 >Milford, CT 06460-0943 > >Co-Task Force Leader >New England Ride for Kids > >Sportbikers do laps. > Cruisers do boulevards. > Sport-Tourers do CONTINENTS! > > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 09:51:00 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA18090 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:50:57 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:52:08 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/29/99 08:16, Foley Mark A SMSgt WL/MLS-OLR at Mark.Foley@robins.af.mil wrote: > Is there a setting to prevent the D7 from transmitting (upon power-up and > having Data channel enabled) a position report until it receives > (correct)posistion information from a connected GPS receiver? No and there is good reason for this as explained by Mr. Bruninga. The 0,0 posit is IGNORED by all versions of the software (and the TH-D7) in terms of putting you on the map. However, you still show up on the list of stations heard. The reason you want this is in situations where you might want to be able to start passing traffic to someone before his GPS locks up. When transmitting at power up, everyone knows he is there and on frequency. The only other way to stop it is to shut the beacon function off before you shut the radio off. Then you'll have to manuall enable the beacon once your GPS locks up. Does it really bother you that much? 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 10:01:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id KAA18556 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 10:01:27 -0600 (CST) Delivered-To: fixup-htaprs@tapr.org@fixme Message-ID: From: "Tim Russell" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - what to buy? Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 09:58:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <001301bf5215$9e80df60$e2026e0a@russvmc.ilg.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I can't say enough good things about my Diamond antenna - looks like it's model number SRH519. It's 8 inches long and very thin with an SMA connector, and it really gets out for such a small antenna! What with the problems with the Kenwood antenna, I would say this, and maybe a Maha high-capacity NiMH battery, are the two things you should buy first, and definitely the antenna first. Tim, N0ZHY --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 15:26:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA29314 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:26:36 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Peter J Anderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Overide for auto power off? Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:27:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AD_01BF5208.C4E7BA00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00b001bf5243$723ab600$a701f5d1@bambi> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01BF5208.C4E7BA00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Palmpilot IIIe, does the APRS program disable the auto power = off so the unit keeps running? Or is there a way to turn off the APO? Peter Anderson Communications Consultants Specialists ------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01BF5208.C4E7BA00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have a Palmpilot IIIe, does the APRS = program=20 disable the auto power off so the unit keeps running?  Or is there = a way to=20 turn off the APO?
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00AD_01BF5208.C4E7BA00-- __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 16:19:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA01223 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:18:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:17:24 -0600 From: "Charles R. Schultz" Reply-To: n2pua@cybrtyme.com Organization: 1998 Graduate of Seneca Army Depot X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386A8874.DD66AAAC@cybrtyme.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I don't know about Mark, but I was always a bit worried that my first few packets might show me in some random places unrelated to my actual position, while waiting for my GPS to lock up. This was especially the case if I'd had the units off, traveled some, then turned 'em on at a new place, leaving the GPS waking up dazed and confused. Now, if a 0,0 posit won't plot, that's half the battle. What's my D7 say when it's getting bad info from the GPS, though, and is _that_ plotted? If not, I'll stop worrying, not that it's really all that important, anyway. I just didn't like sending out (possibly) false info. ----------------------- Jon Ogden wrote: > > on 12/29/99 08:16, Foley Mark A SMSgt WL/MLS-OLR at Mark.Foley@robins.af.mil > wrote: > > > Is there a setting to prevent the D7 from transmitting (upon power-up and > > having Data channel enabled) a position report until it receives > > (correct)posistion information from a connected GPS receiver? > > No and there is good reason for this as explained by Mr. Bruninga. > > The 0,0 posit is IGNORED by all versions of the software (and the TH-D7) in > terms of putting you on the map. However, you still show up on the list of > stations heard. > > The reason you want this is in situations where you might want to be able to > start passing traffic to someone before his GPS locks up. When transmitting > at power up, everyone knows he is there and on frequency. > > The only other way to stop it is to shut the beacon function off before you > shut the radio off. Then you'll have to manuall enable the beacon once your > GPS locks up. > > Does it really bother you that much? > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Schultz/ Mailto:n2pua@cybrtyme.com / Home page: http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/n2pua Eastaboga / (Under construction forever!) Alabama / AIM Screen Name: n2pua ICQ ID Number: 11654121 36260 / It's not the thing you fling, but the fling, itself! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 16:43:21 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA01945 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:43:16 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:43:53 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/29/99 16:17, Charles R. Schultz at n2pua@cybrtyme.com wrote: > I don't know about Mark, but I was always a bit worried that my first > few packets might show me in some random places unrelated to my actual > position, while waiting for my GPS to lock up. This was especially the > case if I'd had the units off, traveled some, then turned 'em on at a > new place, leaving the GPS waking up dazed and confused. When you are using the GPS and first turn your TH-D7A on, it has a coordinate location of 0,0. This does not show up on any APRS screens except for perhaps older versions. > > Now, if a 0,0 posit won't plot, that's half the battle. What's my D7 > say when it's getting bad info from the GPS, though, and is _that_ > plotted? If not, I'll stop worrying, not that it's really all that > important, anyway. I just didn't like sending out (possibly) false > info. If the HT begins to get bad data from the GPS (only case I can think of is if the GPS loses lock) the TH-D7A will transmit the LAST good data that it received as the position. If the TH-D7A is turned off during this time and turned back on again, it will revert back to the 0,0 coords and wait for the GPS to re-lock. If you ever hear the radio giving the beep every 10 seconds, it is waiting for good GPS data. 73, Jon KE9NA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! Jon Ogden jono@enteract.com www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 16:46:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA01980 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:46:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mark A. Foley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 17:36:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000a01bf524d$2d387f60$02000003@u1q9b2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I know that WinAPRS plots the 0,0 posit...(found it out when I highlighted my mobile icon and replayed the track). It probably isn't a big deal.... Mark,NA4V -----Original Message----- From: Charles R. Schultz To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 5:19 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A >I don't know about Mark, but I was always a bit worried that my first >few packets might show me in some random places unrelated to my actual >position, while waiting for my GPS to lock up. This was especially the >case if I'd had the units off, traveled some, then turned 'em on at a >new place, leaving the GPS waking up dazed and confused. > >Now, if a 0,0 posit won't plot, that's half the battle. What's my D7 >say when it's getting bad info from the GPS, though, and is _that_ >plotted? If not, I'll stop worrying, not that it's really all that >important, anyway. I just didn't like sending out (possibly) false >info. > >----------------------- > >Jon Ogden wrote: >> >> on 12/29/99 08:16, Foley Mark A SMSgt WL/MLS-OLR at Mark.Foley@robins.af.mil >> wrote: >> >> > Is there a setting to prevent the D7 from transmitting (upon power-up and >> > having Data channel enabled) a position report until it receives >> > (correct)posistion information from a connected GPS receiver? >> >> No and there is good reason for this as explained by Mr. Bruninga. >> >> The 0,0 posit is IGNORED by all versions of the software (and the TH-D7) in >> terms of putting you on the map. However, you still show up on the list of >> stations heard. >> >> The reason you want this is in situations where you might want to be able to >> start passing traffic to someone before his GPS locks up. When transmitting >> at power up, everyone knows he is there and on frequency. >> >> The only other way to stop it is to shut the beacon function off before you >> shut the radio off. Then you'll have to manuall enable the beacon once your >> GPS locks up. >> >> Does it really bother you that much? >> >> 73, >> >> Jon >> KE9NA >> >-- >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Chuck Schultz/ Mailto:n2pua@cybrtyme.com > / Home page: http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/n2pua >Eastaboga / (Under construction forever!) >Alabama / AIM Screen Name: n2pua ICQ ID Number: 11654121 >36260 / It's not the thing you fling, but the fling, itself! > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: na4v@hom.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 16:58:24 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA02390 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:58:23 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 16:57:50 -0600 From: "Charles R. Schultz" Reply-To: n2pua@cybrtyme.com Organization: 1998 Graduate of Seneca Army Depot X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386A91EE.6BB0D1C8@cybrtyme.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks for the clarification. I've just been playing around a bit, and am just starting to study the details of why and how this stuff works. I didn't have any way to conveniently analyze what was being transmitted during these times. I knew the beeps meant the radio wasn't getting good info, and wondered what was really going out. It'd be interesting if there were a way to see how your packet would be displayed when it's received by the D7, rather than just seeing "my packet" when you're digipeated. Thanks again. Chuck ----------------------- Jon Ogden wrote: > > on 12/29/99 16:17, Charles R. Schultz at n2pua@cybrtyme.com wrote: > > > I don't know about Mark, but I was always a bit worried that my first > > few packets might show me in some random places unrelated to my actual > > position, while waiting for my GPS to lock up. This was especially the > > case if I'd had the units off, traveled some, then turned 'em on at a > > new place, leaving the GPS waking up dazed and confused. > > When you are using the GPS and first turn your TH-D7A on, it has a > coordinate location of 0,0. This does not show up on any APRS screens > except for perhaps older versions. > > > > Now, if a 0,0 posit won't plot, that's half the battle. What's my D7 > > say when it's getting bad info from the GPS, though, and is _that_ > > plotted? If not, I'll stop worrying, not that it's really all that > > important, anyway. I just didn't like sending out (possibly) false > > info. > > If the HT begins to get bad data from the GPS (only case I can think of is > if the GPS loses lock) the TH-D7A will transmit the LAST good data that it > received as the position. If the TH-D7A is turned off during this time and > turned back on again, it will revert back to the 0,0 coords and wait for the > GPS to re-lock. > > If you ever hear the radio giving the beep every 10 seconds, it is waiting > for good GPS data. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Second Amendment is NOT about duck hunting! > > Jon Ogden > > jono@enteract.com > www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Schultz/ Mailto:n2pua@cybrtyme.com / Home page: http://www.cybrtyme.com/personal/n2pua Eastaboga / (Under construction forever!) Alabama / AIM Screen Name: n2pua ICQ ID Number: 11654121 36260 / It's not the thing you fling, but the fling, itself! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 20:06:44 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA07822 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 20:06:42 -0600 (CST) From: "Herb Gerhardt, KB7UVC" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:05:54 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000801bf526a$6813c3c0$02000003@oemcomputer> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I would not worry about transmitting bad data. It will either be the exact location of where you are or close to it. That is once it gets a fix. The way I operate my TH-D7A when I am on foot and not really moving that much is: I hook up the GPS to the radio and set the radio to NMEA for GPS input. Once I get a fix, I enter that location into the radio via the POS key then save that position. Once it is saved, I reprogram the radio to GPS NOT USED. That way the radio will retransmit that position until you change it and you do not need to run the GPS anymore. Works great while in camp in the mountains. Herb, KB7UVC NW APRS Group, West Sound Coordinator www.nwaprs.org > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org > [mailto:bounce-htaprs-9461@lists.tapr.org]On Behalf Of Jon Ogden > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 2:44 PM > To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group > Subject: [htaprs] Re: TH-D7A > > > on 12/29/99 16:17, Charles R. Schultz at n2pua@cybrtyme.com wrote: > > What's my D7 > > say when it's getting bad info from the GPS, though, and is _that_ > > plotted? If not, I'll stop worrying, not that it's really all that > > important, anyway. I just didn't like sending out (possibly) false > > info. > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 22:33:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA12339 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:33:51 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:33:56 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Software Programming the TH-7DA From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/28/99 11:38 PM, Edward A. Behl at ed@eabehl.com wrote: > it does include a CD-ROM with a copy of the MCP-D7 software and a PDF > version of the new TH-D7 user manual The manual is more than the standard manual that comes with the radio. It goes into much greater depth about the radio. I've not seen it, but this is what I have heard it is. 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 22:36:54 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA12410 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:36:50 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 22:36:21 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Overide for auto power off? From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/29/99 3:27 PM, Peter J Anderson at fire_rescue_ems1@netzero.net wrote: > I have a Palmpilot IIIe, does the APRS program disable the auto power off so > the unit keeps running? Or is there a way to turn off the APO? >From what I know Palm APRS completely takes over the Palm. This includes the APO functionality. 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 23:07:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA13264 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:07:54 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:08:31 -0500 From: "Lumpy (mobile)" Reply-To: lumpy@digitalcartography.com Organization: The Very Unofficial Colorado APRS Page MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: What's up with aprs.net? References: <19991230045035.8720.qmail@web502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386AE8CF.3FCC@digitalcartography.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Steve KC0EZH posted: > ...a question about javAPRS...fire up the ol' > TH-D7A, let it work for 30 minutes or so, and > then I can pull up one of the US javAPRS maps from > www.aprs.net and see my station listed on there... > ...why doesn't this work all the time?... Hi Steve - Pretty simple answer, really. In Colorado we don't have a full time internet to aprs gate. The closest Igates are either WY or NM, neither of which are normally reachable, except in those instances when RF conditions are great. Once in a while an APRS head in CO will connect to inet for an hour or two, but we don't have the luxury of a 24/7 gate. Lumpy ab0gd -- Temporary Duty Assignment West Hartford, Connecticut The Very Unofficial Colorado APRS Page http://www.digitalcartography.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 23:22:01 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA13618 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:21:55 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:21:57 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Software Programming the TH-7DA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386AEBF5.41DD@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Jon - I have not seen the manual contents either. I have heard the same comments about it as you have; that the electronic version of the TH-D7 manual discusses TNC configuration, and packet and APRS operation in great detail. Without personally reviewing the manual, I can't really say much more. I had no intention of deriding of the PG-4W package in my comments. On the contrary, irrespective of the e-manual, I pointed out that the cable alone was much more substantial than the GPS tail supplied with the radio, and along with integral RF chokes, was more-or-less worthy of the asking price, especially for those hams that don't particularly enjoy home-brewing. Have a Happy New Year, and 73's to all. -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 23:46:22 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA16530 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:46:22 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:46:57 -0500 From: "Lumpy (mobile)" Reply-To: lumpy@digitalcartography.com Organization: The Very Unofficial Colorado APRS Page MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - What to buy? References: <19991230043930.11256.qmail@web508.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386AF1D1.34CA@digitalcartography.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ralph KC2RLM posted: > Just got a D7A and I'm contemplating which accessories to order... > * Comet SMA-24 17" antenna Can't comment on the comet, but the stock duck seems to work pretty well for me. When I travel I used to use a ladder line jpole in the hotel. But my experiments seem to point toward the stock duck being just as good. External vehicle mag mount works better than the duck. External window clip duck seems worse than the HT attached duck. > * Kenwood BT-11 Battery Case Don't have that either, but I'd certainly recommend it, obviously great for emergencies. > * Kenwood PG-4W PC Cable I built my own cable, but I have a lot of the tools and parts needed to do it right. The software is downloadable. I don't have the CD. If I were trying to decide, I think I'd decide against the high cost until I thought I needed more documentation. > * Kenwood SC-47B Softcase Highly recommended, although I don't have one yet. As you know, I dropped my D7A off my bicycle within the first couple hours of owning it. I showed you the scratches when I was in NJ. The fall (~12mph to asphalt) didn't hurt the radio at all, except for cosmetically. Still works just fine. Surely any case would have helped protect it. I don't use the belt clip on the battery pack. I removed it entirely. To carry it, I lock the keyboard and stick it in my pocket. > * Kewwood SMC-34 Spkr/Mike I like mine. I don't know if the MFJ mic has it, but the Ken mic has programmable remote control buttons on the mic. Makes it easier to enter button pushes than to use the tiny rubber buttons on the D7A, for my large fingers. > * Maha MH-PB-39 1050 mAh batt. Highly recommended. I always buy a 2nd nicad pack for any radio. The Maha is nearly twice the amp capacity of the Ken. And the Maha charger has adjustable contact points. You can charge any other rechargable battery. When the nicad runs out of charge in the D7A, you will see the radio cycle itself on/off/on forever. You have to remove the battery to reset it. Carrying the spare nicad allows you to do that in about 10 seconds and you aren't eating up alkalines. Quicker, cheaper, maybe even better for the environment. Tip to save battery life - If you're running a QTH or mobile station nearby, set your D7A to low or extra low power and set it's path to (your local station),WIDE etc. At EL power, the battery seems to last forever. > BNC to SMA adapter I'm an adaptor junkie so I'd say yes. To connect virtually any external antenna, you'll have to get away from that SMA on the Kenwood. It seems fragile, as everyone has noted. A short pigtail adaptor is probably a safe idea. But a solid SMA to BNC is what I use because it makes the SMA easier to screw on to the Kenwood. From that BNC, I use a pigtail that is BNC to SO239. I usually use a rubberband (actually an elastic hair tie) to keep the pigtail 'strain relieved' against the radio case. > ...cigarette lighter plug... I have the Kenwood. Works great. If you've discovered that the cap in parallel works on a non Ken cable, I think that's a major discovery. We might all be able to pay less. -- Generally, I always practice and recommend buying at least one of the factory versions of the options you might want, even at higher cost. Then you'll have one that you KNOW works as designed. Any later experiments will give you a good 'control' to compare with your variable. Lumpy ab0gd -- Temporary Duty Assignment West Hartford, Connecticut The Very Unofficial Colorado APRS Page http://www.digitalcartography.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Wed Dec 29 23:54:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA16792 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:54:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 21:59:22 -0800 From: Walter Dunckel Organization: http://www.radiohound.com X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Software Programming the TH-7DA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386AF4BA.331808AE@radiohound.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" For those of you interested in the contents of this manual, I have posted the table of contents at: http://www.radiohound.com/manual.htm Walter Jon Ogden wrote: > on 12/28/99 11:38 PM, Edward A. Behl at ed@eabehl.com wrote: > > > it does include a CD-ROM with a copy of the MCP-D7 software and a PDF > > version of the new TH-D7 user manual > > The manual is more than the standard manual that comes with the radio. It > goes into much greater depth about the radio. I've not seen it, but this is > what I have heard it is. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > -- > ------------------------------------- > Jon Ogden > KE9NA > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 00:33:52 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA23691 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 00:33:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 01:34:18 -0500 From: "Lumpy (mobile)" Reply-To: lumpy@digitalcartography.com Organization: The Very Unofficial Colorado APRS Page MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Plotting 0,0 posits References: <19991230050005.9325.qmail@web502.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Loop-Detect: 1 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386AFCEA.52B9@digitalcartography.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Jon KE9NA write: > When you are using the GPS and first turn your TH-D7A on, it has a > coordinate location of 0,0. This does not show up on any APRS screens > except for perhaps older versions. I don't know about the newest versions of WinAPRS, but all the WinAPRS versions I've used show plenty of stations off the coast of Western Africa on the Equator. As others have posted, it's probably not the most critical problem. Most users would be zoomed into their local area and not even see Africa. But it would probably be most technically correct for all versions to not display 0,0. The alternative of saving position, changing to non-GPS mode etc is a lot of keystrokes. It also requires you to wait a bit and/or verify your position before you disconnect the GPS. Otherwise you may be seeing some old data. Great little HT. I learn something new about it all the time. Lumpy ab0gd -- Temporary Duty Assignment West Hartford, Connecticut The Very Unofficial Colorado APRS Page http://www.digitalcartography.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 01:29:50 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id BAA24666 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 01:29:46 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: milnes@openix.com (Unverified) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:21:22 -0500 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Ralph Milnes Subject: [htaprs] Extended Receive in D7A Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991230022122.007a4100@openix.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk It's probably been mentioned here before, but I'm new to the TH-D7A and this SIG .... I stumbled upond the fact that Band A has extended receive (136-173 MHz) in the main VHF band. I didn't see this mentioned anywhere in the manual. (p. 46 had a clue about the upper range, but not about the lower). Band B is restricted to 144-147.995 in VHF mode (as far as I can tell). I was pleasantly surprised to find out abouy the extended receive. It's nice to have RX on the police and WX frequencies. I suppose there are a few other undocumented tricks that searching this SIG's archives will produce. I wonder if the manual on the PG-4W CD has some more..hmmm. Ralph, KC2RLM --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 02:30:20 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA25869 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:30:17 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 08:43:22 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Software Programming the TH-7DA From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > How do you make a PG-4W programming cable for the TH-D7A ? Is it the > same connector as the GPS connector? What is the serial port configuration > of the PC? The beta PC software says that the instruction manual gives cable > wiring info but it doesn't. Has anyone tried the software out yet? I use the MCP_D7 package which I assume is the same (cable configuration) as the one you mention? It lets you program the THD7 and also read from it to save settings to disk. I didnt fancy soldering those microscopic nylon reenforced wires to a 9way Dsocket at all!!! Happily... I discovered that the moulded 9way D cable for a dead serial mouse contained four wires - three of them terminate on 2,3 and 5 which is just what is needed to hook the THD7 to the PC. If this is the supplied 2.5mm jack plug ## ## ## ## || A - braid || -- || B - red wire || -- || C - white wire The mouse Dsocket cable was 5 4 3 2 1 @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ As you look into the 9way socket - the view from the PC if you like. 2 was white, 3 was orange and 5 was blue. There was a yellow one but that went to a pin on the bottom row 6-9. Connect D2 to plugC (white) Connect D3 to plugB (red) Connect D5 to plug braid It works ok, once you remember that there isnt any hardward handshaking and set it to Xon/Xoff! Oh and you need a really hot iron to get the solder to run on the supplied cable. Well i did anyway... Happy new year. Bit of a pain but my Psion 3c interfers something horrid with the THD7(E) and the terminal on the Nokia 9110 doesnt work either as it is (I assume) hardware handshaking :( Nice radio tho. Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 02:31:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA25904 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:31:25 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 08:43:29 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: carl_mail@dr.com Subject: [htaprs] thd7 use From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk I just upgraded the eprom in my two TINY2 tncs to version 5. (Mark I and Mark 2 both) so now I have remote access to the tiny two even when its in GPS mode. This means I can alter car digi path settings from the shack, or using a small psion palmtop, from the THD7 when Im out and about. Nice touch. I find the ptt on the THD requires a white knuckle kind of pressure... is this a feature peculiar to my onw only? Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 02:31:30 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA25916 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:31:27 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 08:43:24 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - What to buy? From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > * Kenwood PG-4W PC Cable To program radio & use it to feed PC packet > programs $56 OUCH 56 dollars for a serial lead!!! No wonder the one they supply is a PITA to solder :) > I've decided to hold off on the cigarette lighter plug for now -- out of > money; I can use the batteries. (Man, all this really adds up!!!!) So do batteries.... I gather decent filtering and regulation is essential if you want to feed an external supply. Not a very Kenwood discovery that, given the radio is designed to work in moving mobile situations.... if you think about it.. > Is a Service Manual worth getting? (Note: I'm not hardware facile.) Does it come with a magnifying glass?? :) Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 02:31:27 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id CAA25903 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 02:31:25 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 08:43:27 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: carl_mail@dr.com, htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Accessories - What to buy? From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > > I've decided to hold off on the cigarette lighter plug for now -- > Some folks have reported problems with the unit resetting etc and their > problems solved when they used the Kenwood charger plug. I got the $2 > battery plug and at the cigarette lighter plug end, put a 300uFd cap > across the wires. No problems with that configuration. Simple as that? Worth trying certainly. I was contemplating dropping the voltage from the vehicles 13.8 as well perhaps with a diode or two just to reduce the heating effect. Ive never had a radio manual tell me that the radio will cut out after ten minutes on TX before... and the official duty cycle is 1:3 I think? Still since it isnt a DIGI I guess that leaves lots of space. Mind you my alinco dj580e gets so hot when Im nattering in the car I can't touch it :) Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 05:17:48 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id FAA07836 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 05:17:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Mark A. Foley" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Re: Plotting 0,0 posits Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 06:07:50 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <008701bf52b6$20f4c1a0$02000003@u1q9b2> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Thanks Lumpy for your post...beginning to think no one believed me about the 0,0 posits and WinAPRS...as you stated, it is not a major problem...mostly a nuisance. It is true you can prevent the occurrence before you shut down...but still, a tnc command that would prevent the transmitting of a 0,0 would be nice or for WinAPRS to ignore the posit(probably be an easier fix). I wonder if the D700 behaves the same way....? Mark, NA4V -----Original Message----- From: Lumpy (mobile) To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 1:35 AM Subject: [htaprs] Plotting 0,0 posits >Jon KE9NA write: > >> When you are using the GPS and first turn your TH-D7A on, it has a >> coordinate location of 0,0. This does not show up on any APRS screens >> except for perhaps older versions. > >I don't know about the newest versions of WinAPRS, >but all the WinAPRS versions I've used show plenty >of stations off the coast of Western Africa on >the Equator. > >As others have posted, it's probably not the most >critical problem. Most users would be zoomed into >their local area and not even see Africa. But it >would probably be most technically correct for >all versions to not display 0,0. > >The alternative of saving position, changing to >non-GPS mode etc is a lot of keystrokes. It also >requires you to wait a bit and/or verify your >position before you disconnect the GPS. >Otherwise you may be seeing some old data. > >Great little HT. I learn something new about >it all the time. > >Lumpy ab0gd >-- >Temporary Duty Assignment >West Hartford, Connecticut > >The Very Unofficial Colorado APRS Page >http://www.digitalcartography.com > >--- >You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: na4v@hom.net >To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 06:58:11 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id GAA09631 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 06:58:11 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 06:58:12 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: Plotting 0,0 posits From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/30/99 12:34 AM, Lumpy (mobile) at lumpy@digitalcartography.com wrote: > As others have posted, it's probably not the most > critical problem. Most users would be zoomed into > their local area and not even see Africa. But it > would probably be most technically correct for > all versions to not display 0,0. According to Mr. Bruninga ignoring the 0,0 posit is one of the "standards" in the protocol that all programs should adhere too. I've not checked my MacAPRS version for a long time as I normally don't even look out at the APRS activity in Africa. It does ignore the 0,0 posit in terms or creating your track and everything but it still plots it. I've sent messages to the Sproul's in the past and this one is going there too. Seems like it would be an easy change to make. 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 09:08:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id JAA12867 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 09:08:37 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 10:09:00 -0500 From: "Edward A. Behl" Organization: E A BEHL Technologies MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Extended Receive in D7A References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386B758C.3474@eabehl.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Ralph - Extended Receive is a standard feature on the A band as far as I can tell. But it gets better than that. The A band also covers the AM aircraft range as well. Just switch to VFO, press the F key followed by the A/B key (this is the BAND secondary function) and you switch to 118-135MHz. Then press the F key again and scroll through the menu to find FM/AM option and set it to AM and your set. (This setting affects only the lower aircraft band setting of the A side) As with the mobiles, AM reception is indicated with an underscore in place of the decimal point on the frequency display. I don't know why the B band is restricted to ham bands while the A side receiver can cover the whole high VHF band. In UHF mode, the B side also covers 410-469, limited by the programmable VFO setting. I presume the unit would have to get the MARS or wideband TX mods to open this range up. 73's -- Edward A. Behl - KG4ALG --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 12:49:12 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA18402 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:49:11 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:02:29 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: carl_mail@dr.com Subject: [htaprs] tip From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The label feature on the THD has a novel use - in the UK nine CTCSS frequencies are used A thru J (no I). The repeaters send the letter - but not the actual value. So memories 91-99 are now A 67.1 B 71.9 C 77.0 D 82.5 E 88.5 F 94.8 G 103.5 H 110.9 J 118.8 Now then....it says 67.1 in the RSGB call book, but 67.0 on the rig and software??? Which is correct? Carl gw0tqm = gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 12:51:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id MAA18479 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 12:51:01 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:02:26 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: Plotting 0,0 posits From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > According to Mr. Bruninga ignoring the 0,0 posit is one of the "standards" > in the protocol that all programs should adhere too. The v5 tiny2 GPS mode can be configured to look at the length of the GPS string and no tx it, if it is too short ( 0's instead of lat and long making quite a significant shortening). Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 13:45:05 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id NAA20463 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:45:01 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: X-Sender: cuyeda@popd.ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 11:44:09 -0800 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: Clifford Uyeda Subject: [htaprs] FCC Flash!!! License Restructuring In-Reply-To: References: <19991230043930.11256.qmail@web508.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991230114224.00951800@popd.ix.netcom.com> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Check out the CQ Magazine web page for more details! http://news.cq-amateur-radio.com/news.htm --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 15:12:46 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA23834 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:12:45 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:12:55 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] Re: FCC Flash!!! License Restructuring From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk on 12/30/99 1:44 PM, Clifford Uyeda at cuyeda@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Check out the CQ Magazine web page for more details! > > http://news.cq-amateur-radio.com/news.htm This should pretty much end the "code/no-code" debate, IMHO! 5 WPM is a good compromise. 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 15:21:15 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24131 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:21:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Dave VanHorn" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: FCC Flash!!! License Restructuring Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:18:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <00cc01bf530b$6c055e20$0200a8c0@xemu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk HOLEY MOLEY! --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 15:25:36 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24240 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:25:29 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: Paul Jacques To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Flashing Display Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 13:24:06 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Hi, When the battery is low and the display flashes, how do you turn the radio off? The power switch and every other button doesn't work. I had to plug the radio into a charger to stop the flashing and turn the radio off. If I am not near a charger next time, should I remove the battery or will that reset everything after a period of time? Paul, WB6IWT --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 15:28:56 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24405 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:28:51 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:27:47 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] IT'S HERE!!!!!!!! From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk OK, The little brown truck just dropped off my TM-D700. Gotta go play......... 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 15:34:38 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24629 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:34:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:34:10 -0500 From: Robbie Robertson MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" CC: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: Flashing Display References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <386BC1C2.CA245206@mediaone.net> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Do the same we all do I guess, ;-)... Just unplug the battery, no harm as yet... But then you have two pieces of dead weight to carry around unless you are at home.. If you have the second battery, swap em out... 73! Robbie Paul Jacques wrote: > > Hi, > When the battery is low and the display flashes, how do you turn the > radio off? The power switch and every other button doesn't work. I had to > plug the radio into a charger to stop the flashing and turn the radio off. > If I am not near a charger next time, should I remove the battery or will > that reset everything after a period of time? > > Paul, WB6IWT > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: mwrobertson@mediaone.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org -- ---------------------------- Are we having fun yet? 73 - Robbie - WA9INF ******* --... ...-- ******* --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 15:42:09 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id PAA24834 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:42:03 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Lloyd Mitchell" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: FCC Flash!!! License Restructuring Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:39:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <007401bf530e$69bced60$f30ffea9@0015877040> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Woah nelly!! This is a complete surprize I'm sure .....but boy does it make sense YES Thanks FCC..good job!!! Lloyd KD4HTW (I am now going to get a 5WPM study program from the net) bye......... ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Ogden To: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 4:12 PM Subject: [htaprs] Re: FCC Flash!!! License Restructuring > on 12/30/99 1:44 PM, Clifford Uyeda at cuyeda@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > > Check out the CQ Magazine web page for more details! > > > > http://news.cq-amateur-radio.com/news.htm > > This should pretty much end the "code/no-code" debate, IMHO! 5 WPM is a > good compromise. > > 73, > > Jon > KE9NA > > -- > ------------------------------------- > Jon Ogden > KE9NA > > http://www.qsl.net/ke9na > > > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: kd4htw@bellsouth.net > To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org > > --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 16:15:25 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id QAA25962 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:15:24 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 16:15:29 -0600 Subject: [htaprs] TM-D700 From: Jon Ogden To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk WOW! What a nice radio. It's pretty cool but there sure is a lot to it! YIKES! One squimry feeling I got is that they have a note in the manual that replacement control heads are not available. So be careful with those control heads! I am just going to have to sit and read the manual to figure everything out. But the operation is fairly straightforward. Many, many more options than the TH-D7A. And for those of you who were annoyed by capital letters being first on the TH-D7A when doing messages, the TM-D700A uses lowercase letters first! Other than a hard swallow when I saw the final price tag I am quite pleased with the rig so far. The final drawback is that the mic cable that comes with the radio is probably too short to allow me to mount the radio under the passenger seat in the car w/o extending it. It's not all that long. Also, the microphone is designed to hang on a hook instead of having a button on the back to slide it into a mount. Now I am going to have to figure a new way to hang the mic! Oh well..... It's a BIG mic as well. Anyhow....so far so good! 73, Jon KE9NA -- ------------------------------------- Jon Ogden KE9NA http://www.qsl.net/ke9na "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 20:31:07 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id UAA03238 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 20:31:05 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: carl_mail@dr.com Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 02:44:07 GMT Message-Id: To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Cc: htaprs@lists.tapr.org Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 From: Carl Reply-To: carl_mail@dr.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > What a nice radio. It's pretty cool but there sure is a lot to it! YIKES! > One squimry feeling I got is that they have a note in the manual that > replacement control heads are not available. So be careful with those > control heads! A millennium prediction. In five years we will all buy exactly the same radio - and the nice man in the shop will just deactivate the bits we dont want before we hand our money over.... you want a 2m SSTV handi with qrp 80m CW and wideband FM receive....buzz buzzz you got it... Happy New Year.. Carl gw0tqm carl_mail@dr.com gw0tqm@iname.com --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 21:28:41 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id VAA04602 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:28:40 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 21:28:25 Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" From: "James Kalkowski" List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Message-Id: Precedence: bulk OK, I am jealous now. LOL I ordered from Burghardt... read about their price here. I called them today and they do not even have them in yet. I guess I have to learn to be patient. Kenwood did update their web site and it now includes the TM-D700A. --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 22:21:26 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id WAA06072 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 22:21:25 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:16:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Re: TM-D700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, 30 Dec 1999, Jon Ogden wrote: > What a nice radio. It's pretty cool but there sure is a lot to it! YIKES! > One squimry feeling I got is that they have a note in the manual that > replacement control heads are not available. So be careful with those > control heads! Yep, I specifically asked for separate pricing on control heads and radios. But answer was no. Next I was going to suggest reverse engineering the control head serial stream, but probably isnt necessary. SInce you can do everything from the serial control port anyway... right? --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 23:00:02 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA06850 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:00:02 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.usna.edu: bruninga owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:59:07 -0500 (EST) From: Bob Bruninga X-Sender: bruninga@arctic To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" cc: htaprs@tapr.org, TAPR APRS Special Interest Group Subject: [htaprs] Pic needed for Kenwood TMV700 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk The most popular accessory for the new Knewoood mobile APRS radio will be a KEYBOARD. This is easy to do with a PIC processor and a DTMF encoder. Just program the PIC to convert the ASCII keyboard characters into the needed DTMF tones to emulate what the Microphone TTpad does during alphabetic text entry! In other words, the letter "A" will be the DTMF "2", and letter "B" will be two of them, and "C" will be "2 2 2" etc... It wont be perfect, but it will be an easy external device to build. I hope someone on this SIG will take this up. THe PIC should take a normal PS2 keyboard and output DTMF tones. Since the Pic-E already has 8 pin RJ jacks, then it can simply be inserted inbetween the Mic and the radio to do its thing... Bob --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Thu Dec 30 23:33:04 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id XAA09861 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 1999 23:33:02 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Peter J Anderson" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" Subject: [htaprs] Happy New Year Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 19:00:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <000001bf5350$98c37a60$8401f5d1@bambi> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk Just wishing everyone a Happy Y2K and Keep your fingers crossed! Peter Anderson Communications Consultants Specialists __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org From bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Fri Dec 31 00:02:34 1999 Received: from lists.tapr.org (lists.tapr.org [204.17.217.24]) by tapr.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/1.13) with SMTP id AAA16022 for ; Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:02:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: From: "Dave VanHorn" To: "TAPR HT APRS Special Interest Group" References: Subject: [htaprs] Re: Happy New Year Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 00:58:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.3825.400 List-Unsubscribe: List-Software: Lyris Server version 3.0 List-Subscribe: List-Owner: X-List-Host: Tucson Amateur Packet Radio X-Message-Id: <002101bf5354$1e8bcd20$0200a8c0@xemu> Sender: bounce-htaprs-845@lists.tapr.org Precedence: bulk > Just wishing everyone a Happy Y2K and Keep your fingers crossed! My car battery just blew a cell. I think it's the beginning of the end. Soon, air will turn to lime jello. :) --- You are currently subscribed to htaprs as: lyris.htaprs@tapr.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to leave-htaprs-845T@lists.tapr.org